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Jun 3, 2008, 10:23 AM
I am renovating a bath and have included a 8X4 shower -- doorless. I would love to put in a concrete floor, untiled, and tile walls. Can concrete be used without tiles? What would I have to do the concrete? Can it be scored or designed as they do on floors now? Stained?
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speedball1
Jun 3, 2008, 10:32 AM
I've never put one in that way but if it will set in a slab I'm pretty sure you will need to form na shower pan and install a flange type shower drain,(see image). I would treat the base just like a tile base only without the tiles. Good luck, Tom

ballengerb1
Jun 3, 2008, 11:24 AM
What is the current floor material under the existing bathroom? Is the old drain from the shower in a useable location?

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Jun 3, 2008, 11:55 AM
It is an old wooden floor covered with BackerBoard--cement board! TX

ballengerb1
Jun 3, 2008, 06:13 PM
OK you are on a wood floor and want a concrete shower pan built up. It is usually moratr and tile buit you can use concrete. Ryan's website tells it better than I can so here it goes. How to Build a Shower Pan (http://hoagy.org/house/HowToBuildShowerPan.html)

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Jun 3, 2008, 07:30 PM
Thanks. Read and will do! (or have my plumber do). Do we need to seal the concrete if we are not going to tile it? Can we stamp designs into it? Color it?

ballengerb1
Jun 4, 2008, 06:20 AM
You can do all of the above but designs will make cleaning a bit more difficult. If this job was for my home I'd install tile and grout for a better surface. Concrete is porous and will not be easy to maintain.

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Jun 4, 2008, 06:38 AM
That Is What I Needed--cleaning Is Not What I Want! I Want Easy Maintenance.

Is It Better To Use Large Or Small Tiles--i Am Using 17 1/4" On Walls.

Thanks.

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Jun 4, 2008, 06:38 AM
Great Answer!

ballengerb1
Jun 4, 2008, 06:51 AM
A shower pan has very little flat surface to it so a large tile would be almost impossible to set. The smaller the tile the easier to set but with more grouting. I would grout with a pre-mixed stain proof grout.

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Jun 4, 2008, 09:16 AM
A shower pan has very little flat surface to it so a large tile would be almost impossible to set. The smaller the tile the easier to set but with more grouting. I would grout with a pre-mixed stain proof grout.


WILL DO! THANKS AGAIN. I think I will do the actual tiling -- first time! I will let them do the concrete pan.

ballengerb1
Jun 4, 2008, 09:30 AM
When the guy pours the pan ask him to check the weep holes on the drain and tell you how to keep them clear when you tile. On concrete I would use thinset mortar with a good premixed stainproof grout.

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Jun 4, 2008, 08:28 PM
When the guy pours the pan ask him to check the weep holes on the drain and tell you how to keep them clear when you tile. On concrete I would use thinset mortar with a good premixed stainproof grout.


Thanks--since this is all new to me I can use all the advice I can receive!

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Jun 4, 2008, 08:30 PM
When the guy pours the pan ask him to check the weep holes on the drain and tell you how to keep them clear when you tile. On concrete I would use thinset mortar with a good premixed stainproof grout.


THANKS--HELP APPRECIATED!