OK I recently traded my rings for a dog ,he is havanese which he is so cute but any ways the woman made me sign a contract saying I would get him neutered ,but she lied to me about his age . She said he is 5 months old and he is really like 2 years old. Should I honor the contract?since she lied to me I shouldn't do any of that,that's what I think, another thing the woman didn't even give me papers on the dog!what a witch.

If the contract said that he was 5 months old on it then yes, you could even take her to court over it but, if the contract doesn't say what age the dog is that you can't do anything about it and if you do ignore it she could take you to court!

I'm not going to answer your questions because I am very upset with you. You are willing to breed a dog with questionable background with another type of dog. You are contributing to the number of unwanted dogs that will end up being destroyed. Yeah, they will be cute, and people will take them in and perhaps even pay you. You need to pay close attention to the medical conditions that these dogs are prone to. You are increasing the odds of multile problems and what end up is that they end up in shelter or worse yet put down. As you stated you sold your rings for this dog and now you want puppies.

Leave it to a professional breeder. Love your pup and honor the contract for nuetoring.

I'll go even further and say that this seems more like a cheap attempt to advertise that someone has a small breed dog available for stud service, and that the justification is entirely bogus. And it would probably be a good idea for a moderator to remove the contact info from the original post.

Froggy, I was thinking the same thing. Looks like a bit of advertising,not a legitimate concern.

If you do want advice, here it is. Go to your local shelter and take a look at the amount of dogs that are there, do you want to add to that? There are enough dogs without homes out there already, don't add to that. Get you dog neutered, like you promised, and just enjoy him.

In the last few months I have seen, and I quote the owners, spelling and all: Chorkies, Pomaweenians, Bulloxen, Jackrats, Butterfly-eared Chihuahuas, Great Dain Mixed with Massive, and a Montese/Yorkster.
This tells me that someone's dog got bred by another breed, accidentally or on purpose. The owners made up a cutsey name, sometimes even bothered to get them "registered" with some agency all too happy to accept someone's payment in exchange for a piece of paper worth no more than cage lining material. They then sold these "designer dogs" to some unsuspecting customers to expose their ignorance by bragging about their rare and special pets.
If they had bothered to check out the local shelter, they would have found plenty of these "breeds", otherwise known as mutts or mongrels there. They would have had just as special a pet for much less money and maybe there would be fewer designer dogs in the freezer in the back, in the incerator and in the local landfill.
If this sounds harsh, I guess I meant it to. I have had to kill way too many sweet mixed breed dogs to be impressed by someone trying to get back at an unscrupulous breeder by becoming one themselves.

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So what if you don't get papers... so what if he's 2 years old? I just adopted a shnoodle from the shelter a month ago and they had him listed as 6 months and he's closer to 2 years. I had to sign a contract saying id get him neutered. They neutered him for me, and his adoption fee was $100. Just enjoy the companionship provided by your pup. If all you bought him for was to breed him, then you shouldn't have bought him. My husband wants to breed his malamute, but he wants to do so for the love of the breed, not for the money. If you don't want the dog for companionship reasons, then please do the dog a favor and find a loving home for him so he doesn't end up in a shelter.

U guys got me f**cked up I wanted to mate him just to get myself a pup like I was supposed to get.I had no idea that mix breeding can be so called dangerous and I'm not in to anything for any kind of money.

Thanks for the advice people was very interesting,but I think I'm going to have more pups for the shelter.thank you.

Wow, that was a completely bogus statement. At first I thought they had been jumping to conclusions, now I think they are right.

Not only do I think that you should have him neutered as stated in the contract, I think the woman you got the dog from should take YOU to court and should print out this topic as evidence.

But to answer your question, the contract is only void if she stated false information in it. If the age is wrote in the contract as inaccurate info, then it is a legal matter. If you were willing to buy a dog and sign a legally binding contract, it would only make sense to take him to the vet first to make sure of what you are buying, the same as a test drive for a car. If the age is not stated in the contract, then you are legally obligated to get him fixed and not "have more pups for the shelter."

Guess what?it's not your guy's dog so don't worry OK.I just come on here and asked a simple question I didn't come on here to ask anyone if they are a genius.

We know that you are not. Do you have any respect for the pups sake? You are very selfish

The shelter sells small breed dogs like this for $250 so I'm sure who ever buys the dogs aren't just throwing there money in the trash and another thing I called the shelter and they said that the small breed dogs go really fast so I think u people ain't got nothing to do but set around and judge someone.Let god do his work and stay out of it... Thank you... peace out...

You are a wako. They are not charging you a fee for the dog, it is a donation. Furthermore it is not G-D's work what you are doing. Youasked for our opinion and we gave it to you. You are unable to defend your ideas and therefore you feel threatened. Too bad for you. I feel no mercy for. You deserve all that you get in life. May G-D have mercy on your soul.

No lady your wacko maybe u need some medication that might help... duh! I know I can't sell animals to an animal shelter geese how did u become a senior member?

I have a pretty good rep can't say that about you.

I really don't care for your opinion, your actually your getting on my nerves lady.Dont talk to me anymore.

Sherice1977- You asked for an opinion, you got the opinion, now your mad because you don't like what was said. That there are 1000's of unwanted dogs that are put to sleep every year because people are careless or greedy and breed their dogs and then have no homes for them. Go to your local animal shelter, look into the eyes of the dogs that are behind those bars, some of them for months before they get adopted, some never seeing the light of day again, never getting adopted, but walking to the room down the hall never to come out again. I've been to the shelter, I will never ever buy a dog from a breeder, pet store or careless pet owner again, allot of my pets (I have 8) are shelter rescues, and all future pets will be shelter rescues. Please think about what you are doing, don't do it because you want a puppy, don't do it because you're angry with the advice you got here, just don't do it, please.

To bring it home, here's a little story about a dog named Boots, he was an 8 year old border collie cross. I first met Boots around 1 year ago, when we went to adopt our 2nd rabbit, Boots had already been in the shelter for around 1 year at that time. He had allot of restrictions, he couldn't be in a home with children, or other pets, otherwise Boots would have come home with me. I sent supplies for Boots, visited Boots, wrote emails asking how he was, was he adopted, was he okay? After 1 1/2 years at the shelter they had to euthanize Boots, he went cage crazy (it happens). Here's a picture of Boots.

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God gave you free will, so use it, get your dog fixed like you promised and enjoy him for him, don't add to a growing problem.

Good luck.

I never knew about the situation with the animals because I haven't had a dog in years since I was a kid,I was only mad because everyone so rudely jumped on me without even knowing anything about me.Im not going to breed my dog.I promise I'm going to get him neutered.

I never knew about the situation with the animals because I havent had a dog in years since I was a kid,I was only mad because everyone so rudely jumped on me without even knowing anything about me.Im not going to breed my dog.I promise im going to get him neutered.

Please please please!. keep that promise! I rescued my dog Niki, 1 day before she was going to the death chamber! She is the sweetest, smartest, most obedient, loveable, protecting, grateful, funny,. every other word I can think of... gift in my life! She looked at me with her big brown sad eyes at the shelter, and said please pick me!

I'm sure if she could talk, she would tell me that spaying her was no big deal! She was asleep, and she was running around happy the next day. I think she would also tell me that all of her fellow pup friends were scared that they had to die, because someone didn't want an abandoned shelter pup! I'm sure she wondered why the Dr. came up and took her little caged friend next to her didn't return, and why she didn't see him walking out with a new family!

YouTube - Abandoned Dogs-Be Good To Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1A7MlY9Ts)

Just watch the video, and do research on the designer breed that you have, and make sure he doesn't contribute to another litter of unwanted pups. Your pup is here now. Do everything you can to make sure he is well taken care of, and neutered, so another one of those puppies that are so precious, don't have to die! You will receive the love back to you more than you will ever know!

Sherice1977- You asked for an opinion, you got the opinion, now your mad because you don't like what was said. The fact of the matter is that there are 1000's of unwanted dogs that are put to sleep every year because people are careless or greedy and breed their dogs and then have no homes for them. Go to your local animal shelter, look into the eyes of the dogs that are behind those bars, some of them for months before they get adopted, some never seeing the light of day again, never getting adopted, but walking to the room down the hall never to come out again. I've been to the shelter, I will never ever buy a dog from a breeder, pet store or careless pet owner again, allot of my pets (I have 8) are shelter rescues, and all future pets will be shelter rescues. Please think about what you are doing, don't do it because you want a puppy, don't do it because you're angry with the advice you got here, just don't do it, please.

To bring it home, heres a little story about a dog named Boots, he was an 8 year old border collie cross. I first met Boots around 1 year ago, when we went to adopt our 2nd rabbit, Boots had already been in the shelter for around 1 year at that time. He had allot of restrictions, he couldn't be in a home with children, or other pets, otherwise Boots would have come home with me. I sent supplies for Boots, visited Boots, wrote emails asking how he was, was he adopted, was he okay? After 1 1/2 years at the shelter they had to euthanize Boots, he went cage crazy (it happens). Here's a picture of Boots.

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God gave you free will, so use it, get your dog fixed like you promised and enjoy him for him, don't add to a growing problem.

Good luck.

My God Alty, that made tears run down my face! :( So sad. That is why I volunteer every yr. to help out with something at the shelters! There doesn't need to be anymore unwanted shelter animals, or ones that are just let loose to fend for themselves because the owners don't want them when they become a bother.

My heart ached while I was writing this. It is my hope that people understand the plight that so many dogs face, through no fault of their own.*edit* How do you know the dogs that are a result from your breeding will not face a life on a chain. From Altys post we see first hand how they can be put to death while waiting for a home. Never breed for greed.


What a puppy knows

Before you click that chain,
I may never be the same.

I'm cute and cuddly,
And sometimes puddly.

Right now I'm small and don't know it all.
Except what my mama told me about my Grandpa.

Here is the mistake his owner did make.
I hope you will not want to do the same, for my sake.

Mistake some might say, he gave that old dog a place to lay
And good food to eat everyday.

Yes mistakes, chained dogs can't greet you at the door,
They can't lie by your feet on the floor.

Their life for you they would trade any day.
How could they, if a chain, is where they must stay.

If that is your intention for me
Just leave me be.

I see a lady that will love me
And tell my grandpa's story.



Dog on a chain

On this chain is my home.
Is this chain where I belong?

My master put me here many years ago.
Just how many, I don't know.

Hes never happy when he visits, I feel so alone.
If it will please him I'll find a new home.

Jumping to greet him only makes him yell.
Sometimes I get a swift kick to the tail.

Where did I fail you, where did I go wrong?
Please tell me, I so want to belong.

Days turn into cold lonely nights.
Nights into days, I'm losing my sight.

My old eyes are yellow and covered in haze.
My muzzle is scattered, with many shades of grays.

But never the less I'd be willing to play
And give you my love the rest of my days.

Open your eyes dear one, awaiting you is a rainbow
Why you had to endure this only your master knows.

Was it to teach?
To many, I can make sure your story will reach.

Now you are free to romp and play
And I believe to come back someday.

I never knew about the situation with the animals because I havent had a dog in years since I was a kid,I was only mad because everyone so rudely jumped on me without even knowing anything about me.Im not going to breed my dog.I promise im going to get him neutered.


I am so glad. One thing you have to realize, those of us on this site that are animal advocates can get a bit bossy, or rude, when we feel that something isn't right. I know it's hard to get advice that you don't necessarily want to hear, I've been there before, but even if it's sometimes not said as nicely as it could be, the intention is good, it really is.

I've been to the shelter many times, in fact we just went recently to adopt our 4th bunny (yes, I'm the crazy bunny lady :) ) While we were there I couldn't help but go into the dog area, even though I can't adopt another dog (the legal limit where I live is 2 per household, and I already have two). The sadness of their eyes, some of them that I personally know have been there for many months and are on death watch. I pass by the puppies, I know they'll be adopted, they're puppies, cute, little and very desirable, and sadly out of every 3 puppies sold, I know that at least one of them will end up back at the shelter some time in it's life. I look at the older dogs, some of them still come up to me when I walk by, wag their tail and get a hopeful look in their eyes. I pat them, tell them it's going to be okay, and then move on with my heart breaking. Then there are the dogs that no longer come to greet anyone, they don't wag their tail, they don't make eye contact, they just lay there, they know their days are numbered, they also know that people come and go, and they stay behind. It breaks my heart every time, and yet I feel compelled to visit the dog room every time we go to the shelter. It's a good lesson, a good dose of reality, even though it hurts. I go home and give my two lucky dogs a big hug, do they know how much I love them, do they know how lucky they are? One of my dogs is a shelter rescue, to see him now you'd never know he was once a scrawny, scared, beaten little dog, he's happy, and loved, and that's all we can hope for.

I'm so glad that you've decided to get your dog neutered, so very glad. If you want, I can PM you some links to shelters in your area, you can do some research of your own. Then you'll understand better how come we feel the way we do, and who knows, maybe you'll decide to adopt a friend for you dog:). Take care, and I'd love to see a picture of your new dog, would you be willing to post one?:)

My little mutt dog, Missy, was an abused dog. When we first got her from a friend, she wouldn't even look at us. Her former owners( before the people we got her from) had kept her in a filthy TV box, never let the kids play with her, made her fight with two chows for food and water, and threw her out in the yard with those two uncut male chows and she's just a bit bigger (taller) than a cocker spaniel. We've had her for going on 4 years and she's still my little swiss miss. She used to get carsick on 15 minute car rides and now she loves car rides. Her favorite treat is hot dogs, and her favorite toys are sock babies. She's the best and sweetest dog anyone could ask for. Now instead of being terrified of us, she loves to play fight, and all I have to do is tell her 'thats enough' and she knows its time to settle down. Instead of trying to steal food from your plate, she'll guard it from the other animals. It's a shame she had to live a year and a half of her life without love. I wouldn't trade her for all the money in the world.

My little mutt dog, Missy, was an abused dog. When we first got her from a friend, she wouldn't even look at us. Her former owners( before the people we got her from) had kept her in a filthy tv box, never let the kids play with her, made her fight with two chows for food and water, and threw her out in the yard with those two uncut male chows and she's just a bit bigger (taller) than a cocker spaniel. We've had her for going on 4 years and she's still my lil swiss miss. She used to get carsick on 15 minute car rides and now she loves car rides. Her favorite treat is hot dogs, and her favorite toys are sock babies. She's the best and sweetest dog anyone could ask for. now instead of being terrified of us, she loves to play fight, and all i have to do is tell her 'thats enough' and she knows its time to settle down. instead of trying to steal food from your plate, she'll guard it from the other animals. It's a shame she had to live a year and a half of her life without love. I wouldnt trade her for all the money in the world.

I bet she loves you extra special for getting her out of that situation! *High Five* My little girl was dumped at the shelter because she barked. Her previous owner left her outside all day and night, and didn't pay any attention to her. I would bark too! She was at the shelter for so long, she was on the "chamber" list. I brought her home, and she has been the best companion and most well behaved and easy to teach dog, that I could have ever asked for! She only barks if to protect me or her territory. I wouldn't give her up for the world! :)

You remember the Benji movies? That's Missy. All I have to do is whisper 'sock baby' and she perks up.

You remember the Benji movies? thats Missy. all i have to do is whisper 'sock baby' and she perks up.

I did want to ask you that. What the heck is a sock baby? My Niki has her fave thing... and forgive the expression, because it sounds weird... but all in fun. I call it her "crack bone" LOL She can't do without it! ;)

I did want to ask you that. What the heck is a sock baby?? My Niki has her fave thing...and forgive the expression, because it sounds weird...but all in fun. I call it her "crack bone" LOL She can't do without it! ;)

A sock baby is just that... a bunch of old stained, holey, mismatched socks stuffed into one sock and tied off. I once made one that had a head, arms and legs and she loved it to death.

Yes I will replace my picture with a picture of my dog.he is a havanese.
He looks scruffy in this picture.I live in Michigan in the suburbs of detroit can anyone tell me where a good place to neuter him is at that is very cheap?

Oh Sherice, he is adorable, what a sweetheart.

As for neutering, try you local spay clinic (they also do neuters), or the SPCA.

I'll try and do a bit of research, find a place near you, but I don't know Michigan very well, actually not at all, I'm in Canada.

Give that scruffy little cutie a big hug from me, he's a keeper. :)