Could someone please explain exactly what "ammened" names are? Thank yoy.

Do you mean amended? If so amended names is a name that was changed. An amendment is a change to something that was previously something else.

So if I have a born name like Brandi D Allen and her amended names is Oke, what does that mean?

All that means is that "Oke" was not the first name.. there was an amendment to the previous name.. whatever it might be. This can be Prince wanting to "amend" his name to "the artist" or you amended an adopted kid to have your name.. all amend means is replaced or added..

So if an adoptee is looking for their real name (before they were adopted) would it be the Brandi Allen or Oke?

Brandi Allen

Got It! Thank You So Much Have A Gooooood Day

Sorry, One more thing, So it is possible for the amended name to be a birth mothers maiden name, right?

Well it all depends on the situation.. but if there was no father then by default the kid would get the mothers maiden name.. Or if the parents chose it to be that way.. so yes the first name anyone would have (not amended) would be their birth mothers maiden name or fathers name.

I never thought about it that way. About my father I mean.

You have been a really big help, thanks!

No problem always willing to help

An amended name is when the adoption is final and the child's last name is changed to the adopted families last name.

Do they ever amend the mothers name?

Let me see if I can put a perspective on this. A person's name is actually ANYTHING THEY want to call themselves. As long as there is no intent to defraud, a person can call themselves whatever name they want.

A person's legal name is what's on their birth certificate except in the case where a change was requested and granted through a court. Generally, when an adoption occurs, the legal name is changed.

Now if you explain WHY you are asking these questions we might be able to help further.

Yes actually that does help, a great deal. Thank You So Much! Well, Iam asking because Iam not too familiar with all the adoption laws. I know(now, thanks) that the majority of adoptees names are Amended, but I don't know if the Mothers(birth) were always amended too! Thank You.

There would be no reason that I can see for a mother's birth name on a birth certificate to be changed. It might be expunged at the birth mother's request. The mother's name however, could have been changed subsequently for a couple of reasons. She could have remarried, multiple times. She could have gone to court for a legal name change.

As for adoptees names being changed, this can also vary. With very young children both the first and last names may have been changed by the adoption agreement. With older children, the last name may be changed but not the first name. With even older children (in their teens), They may continue to keep their birth names even though legally adopted by an adoptive or step parent.

Hello again! Yes you have been a huge help. Thank you. Now at least I know SOMETHING. Still have no idea where to start, but now I have the meaning of amended. Thank You Again.

Too bad there is not a Help Desk for Adoptees!

Are we to assume that you are an adoptee looking for your birth parents? If so, there are many resources open to you. Go to google.com and search for searching for birth parents. You will find many resources to help you. There are some clearing houses where birth parents and adoptees can register among other resources.

Let me caution you on one point. Birth parents have a right to privacy. In many instances they do not want to be found or contacted. This is not to discourage you from searching because many want to be found. But you should approach any attempt at contact with caution.

You are so right! Everyone has a right to privacy, in fact I am a very private person.Well, except when it comes to this one subject. It is something I just HAVE TO KNOW!! ALL my life there has been a constant ache of needing to know "where I came from", especially now that I have children of my own. Not knowing, is like a continual empyness. Sometimes I just want it to go away.

I won't insult you by saying I understand what you are feeling. I don't think anyone who isn't in that situation themselves could truly understand. I have, in the past, spoken to a number of adoptees and birth parents on both sides of this issue. The Internet has been a boon to both adoptees and birth parents by providing central clearinghouses where they can list and search. Before the Internet, such a search was extremely difficult.

The only other thing I can say to you, is that, in my view, where you came from is not as important as where you are and where you are going. Its what you make of what life has handed you that defines who you are.

Thank you so much!

Do they ever ammend the mothers name?
Yes the mother and fathers names are changed on the birth certificate.

yes the mother and fathers names are changed on the birth certificate.

Are you saying that, in case of an adoption, the parents names are changed? As far as I know a birth certificate is a legal document and can't be altered without verification.

To Tine,
There is an advice column in my local paper that had a question today about adoption. The columnist mentioned a book; Lost and Found: The Adoption Experience by Betty Jean Lifton (Harper Perennial 1988). http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060971320/sr=8-1/qid=1142449246/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-3317504-1892615?%5Fencoding=UTF8

From what the columnist said you might find it helpful to you.

On a person who is adopted, the names are changed on the birth certificate showing the new adopted parents as the birth parents. All of the other information, hospital, date of birth, attending physciian are normally left the same. In the sealed court house records will be a copy of the original one with the real parents names on them.

But yes the birth certificate is alterd for anyone that is adopted.

And honestly on my personal one from the late 1950's they did not even do a very good job of it, looks like they put a piece of paper over the old name, make a photocopy and then typed in a new name. ** I know they did not have phtotocopy machine back then, so I don't know how they did it, but that is what it looks like.

If it did not have the raised seal from the court house, I would not believe it had not been faked myself.

There may be differering rules for differing states and agencies. At one time my wife and I looked into adoption. What we were told is we would not get a birth certificate or copy of it. Instead the Adoption papers would act as a substitute.

In today's age, I am sure they are having to re-issue birth certificates, I had that trouble originally when I wanted to join the military, I did not have a birth certificate and had to petition the state to issue me one.

They could not let me in on just my adoption papers.

And today adoption papers are not a listed approved ID for passports, or even a drivers licence in many states.

I know we are going though this issue with my mom, she does not have a birth certificate, and she got her drivers licence when they first started having them and it was just issued.

So now with the new rules, they have to have proof of identy to renew her drivers licence. ( her old licence is not good enough, they want a passport or birth certificate. But having been born in the 20's and at home, many times there were no birth certificates.

But yes birth certificates are a state issue item, there is no "national data base or issue of birth certficates ( I guess just give them time)
So different states would do it different.

THANK YOU ALL ! For taking the time to respond.Actually, you have all been a tremendous help! Thank you all, next time.Its just a little confusing sometimes.If you think of anything else, feel free. Take care.