I'm trying to plan out an addition and the toilet is bothering me.

the pipe is going to come from the basement up the floor to an existing closet, then up to the addition.

its about 15ft(max) from pipe to closet in basement then straight up.

my contractor has it not being able to go no farther than 4ft, but I think he's taking one thing his plumber said and going with it, not listing to our reasons we don't want it there.

having the toilet 4ft in the room then the tube on the far wall is killing space and layout
the room added is going to be 28 long 18 wide. Toilet is also positioned about 13 to 15 ft from the left wall. Right in front of the door to the room(about... 4 ft up 0-2 ft left)

the room is going to contain a master bath and master closet. We want at least 15-20 ft of space in closet. I know...

after 300 sketches and figuring out with out moving the toilet we get a rooms that look like L's

I figure if the toilet could move 4 feet more the room would go from.

OLD= L rooms about 16 ft closet space and a close odd bathroom
NEW= Square rooms w/ about 20-30 ft closet space and a comfortable bath

the big problem is the fact we want a closet. The room where in now has about 15 ft of closet space so we would at least like to keep that other wise why spend the money when we could add another room elsewhere for other reasons .

thanks for any help

Hey JMH:

I have almost always been able to put a toilet where my customer wanted it... BUT there have been times where I could not run the pipe up to bathroom so I could do what owners wanted.

I wonder if this is because plumbing code does not permit or building codes do not allow this.. Would love to know specifically WHY he can't move it..?

Sometimes, codes will not allow us to drill the joists for a pipe as large as the toilet pipe... so can't get toilet to where it needs to go... UNLESS the carpenter builds a soffit box under ceiling so I can run my toilet/vent pipe under the joists and finally to where we need to install the toilet.

If you are sure you can't allow a soffit to be built in the room UNDER this bathroom, then may not be able to do this.

What size are the joists upstairs?

You could also call the local building inspector and BEG him to drop by and take a look at this for you... some inspectors are glad to help... others will tell you to call another carpenter and get his opinion... and that may not be a bad idea. Obviously, we can't see any of this, so another carpenter may be best case here.

Hey, let me know what you think.. Mark

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um, not sure about the joist, where planning to put the addition partly over our rec room that is 15x15 with pillars for over hangs.

the roof is coming off if that helps.

he might be stuck to the 4 ft because we where going to go up thought another closet that is on the wall behind this one "in the house" not the rec room (previous addition to a squarish house)

I think it was "cheap way"

but we wanted to take that closet out and add a hallway there so we wouldn't have to take 3x13 out of a 13x13 bed room. Not much room 10x 13 bed room but it would be a negative tword the reason for addition.

I read some where you can be 10 ft from the "joist" not sure if that the right term lol

but if you know what I am talking about lol, is that the basement line (encased in concrete) or the pipe that would be in the closet going up?

thank you soooooooooooo much for help.

should I call a plumber to see what he would say or do you think that's overstepping my bounds, I know its my money and my house not his but working with something like this is and could be touchy don't want nothing going wrong for any reasons would like to have no problems lol...

Hey JMH:

Explain... "i read some where you can be 10 ft from the "joist" not sure if that the right term"...

Plumbing code does not reference joists... it references distance from fixture to vents.

Explain... "is that the basement line (encased in concrete) or the pipe that would be in the closet going up?"

You have a pipe in basement that is stubbed up? Wondering if that is to be used for upstairs addition?

And can't hurt to have another plumber come in and evaluate this.. just ask hime to show up after hours, to please be discreet (use family vehicle) and tell him you will be glad to pay for his time... ;)... and there should not be issue having him come and evaluate and at least offer his opinion.

What you do from there..!

Let me know... Mark

thanks massplumber2008


Explain... "i read some where you can be 10 ft from the "joist" not sure if that the right term"...

i think i got the word in my head lol, my joist= main pipe?

basement line goes out to sewer. I think it runs under my garage.

cool ill call a plumber can't hurt. I think if maybe he can give me some knowledge maybe i could suggest them to his plumber(dont know his name or # otherwise id call him)

Let me know what happens... Good luck with this!

Mark

Again thank you