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chrissymarie
May 1, 2008, 09:56 AM
I'm having doubt about getting married, but are these doubts about getting married to him enough to end an engagement with the man I believe to be my first true love?
1. I believe he has a fetish with the way I look (being black) he is white and has a porn collection which consists of only black women
2. He is 30 and I am 20. (do men really age better than women or am I doomed to be with an old prune?)
3. He wants children now, I don't want them for at least 5 more years.
4. Am I his fiancé or his child? (He pays for everything and sets all the rules)
5. Should I be worried about the fact he said he wants to mold me into the perfect woman/ wife?
6. He goes to church and pretends to be religious yet lives a sinful life with me... ( and I don't like church or religion)
Please help me make my final decision.
kp2171
May 1, 2008, 10:11 AM
First... id suggest all posters read the other threads before answering these questions...
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/adult-sexuality/fiance-potential-pervert-210855.html
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/adult-sexuality/fiance-cannot-ejaculate-209465.html
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/20-vs-30-a-209460.html
1) that he's attracted to a black woman isn't an issue. I've dated women of different frames and ethnicities. I have certain fetishes that tend to dictate who I dated. No big deal.
As for porn... well would you prefer he have porn of older white women only? If he has porn, is it shocking that he finds women like you attractive? Whether its good he has porn in another issue.. but really... should he have gay porn? Porn with people that look nothing like you?
2) I find your question, the way its phrased, insulting and rude. You have an issue with his being older. My wife is 5 years older than me and this never once was a concern. An old prune... guess what? You don't know how he is going to age, just as he doesn't know how you will. You could put on weight, you could have a terrible illness... that you ask this question this way blows me away.
3) neither side is wrong. If he has a child sooner, he will likely be able to play and be more active in the child's life. From your other posts its clear you want to run with the other friends your age to the clubs. That's not wrong, but why marry if you can't agree on this?
4) OK... so what's stopping you from paying? You are a student... fine. So? You let him pay. You don't choose to be in this situation and them blame him when you let him pay. Period. My wife was a single mother at 20 who worked through college and paid her own way. If this is an issue either suck it up or don't complain. As for the "rules"... you get a say here too. If he's too authoritarian for you, again... WHY ARE YOU WITH HIM?
You have all these concerns and have yet to clearly state why you are with him... well, there's the fact you are scared to be alone
5) he wants to mold you... don't know what that's about.
6) he lives a sinful life with you... and you don't like church or religion... I give up.
Make another list
WHY DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD BE WITH HIM?
Pretend I'm a girlfriend who thinks he's too old for you and you'll waste the "best years" of your youth on a perverted, control freak who will be wrinkled before you know it.
Convince me that you should get married. Why marry him?
Handyman2007
May 1, 2008, 10:13 AM
In my opinion... He is a control freak,, get out while you can.
Tuscany
May 1, 2008, 10:17 AM
KP- I need to spread the love. But I agree 100% with all that you have said. Well said and great job.
kp2171
May 1, 2008, 10:19 AM
All I've seen so far is they have a lot of sex and he pays for things.
amIwrong
May 1, 2008, 10:24 AM
1. Everyone has a preference on their personal attraction
2. All people age differently, regardless of gender, race, etc. Your afraid he won't have it for you anymore once your not 20 or so I am guessing. Your asking, will he like me in the long run, like when I am 50, will he still have a fetish for younger women, that's a question for him.
3. Why have any children if things are so shaky right now?
4. Someone in the relationship does these things, it does not make one or the other a parent or child necessairly. Do you feel your roles are equal is the more important question? Does he?
5. If that is how you feel you and he should address these issues, no person is going to be perfect.
6. A lot of people do this, but you have to asks yourself if you can continue to respect him feeling that way.
Don't ask someone to change, ask yourself if you can accept them.
I'm having doubt about getting married, but are these doubts about getting married to him enough to end an engagement with the man I believe to be my first true love?
1. I believe he has a fetish with the way I look (being black) he is white and has a porn collection which consists of only black women
2. He is 30 and I am 20. (do men really age better than women or am I doomed to be with an old prune?)
3. He wants children now, I don't want them for atleast 5 more years.
4. Am I his fiance or his child? (He pays for everything and sets all the rules)
5. Should I be worried about the fact he said he wants to mold me into the perfect woman/ wife?
6. He goes to church and pretends to be religious yet lives a sinful life with me... ( and I don't like church or religion)
Please help me make my final decision.
chrissymarie
May 1, 2008, 10:28 AM
pretend im a girlfriend who thinks hes too old for you and youll waste the "best years" of your youth on a perverted, control freak who will be wrinkled before you know it.
convince me that you should get married. why marry him?
Ok... we have a connection I have with no one else. We have exactly the same sense of humor and can talk for hours. He is my comfort. I feel so safe with him. He is extremely attractive to me and so great and considerate in bed. He has the best taste in food and teaches me something new everyday. My family loves him which is very important to me. He usually supports me 100% and helps me make the right decsions at times. He is taking care of me and tries his hardest to make sure I have everything I need and am happy. Although theses are my "best years" I sometimes feel giving them to him is totally worth it for all that he can do for me. But then again there are times when I have my doubts too.
kp2171
May 1, 2008, 10:32 AM
He's your first big love, isn't he?
Lots of good in there... but being comfortable and safe isn't enough. Taking care of you isn't enough.
There are times when you write about him and it sounds like you loathe so much about him. And then this is more tender, though I think a lot of this is he is your first big love... at least that's my guess.
amIwrong
May 1, 2008, 10:35 AM
I am sure he has great qualities or you would not be with him, but the question is more about can the relationship be sustained on just the good things that you do have. Really, it's your decision and yours alone.
Ok... we have a connection I have with no one else. We have exactly the same sense of humor and can talk for hours. He is my comfort. I feel so safe with him. He is extremely attractive to me and so great and considerate in bed. He has the best taste in food and teaches me something new everyday. My family loves him which is very important to me. He usually supports me 100% and helps me make the right decsions at times. He is taking care of me and tries his hardest to make sure I have everything I need and am happy. although theses are my "best years" i sometimes feel giving them to him is totally worth it for all that he can do for me. But then again there are times when I have my doubts too.
michellet218
May 1, 2008, 10:49 AM
I'm having doubt about getting married, but are these doubts about getting married to him enough to end an engagement with the man I believe to be my first true love?
1. I believe he has a fetish with the way I look (being black) he is white and has a porn collection which consists of only black women
2. He is 30 and I am 20. (do men really age better than women or am I doomed to be with an old prune?)
3. He wants children now, I don't want them for atleast 5 more years.
4. Am I his fiance or his child? (He pays for everything and sets all the rules)
5. Should I be worried about the fact he said he wants to mold me into the perfect woman/ wife?
6. He goes to church and pretends to be religious yet lives a sinful life with me... ( and I don't like church or religion)
Please help me make my final decision.
Girl, this is kind of serious! It may not be enough to end the engagement, but I think it's enough to AT LEAST postpone it. Some of these are kind of serious issues. First, I'm a female, and I never see was wrong w/ men having sex videos. Hell, I watch them with my man! Lol 2)so you 10 yrs apart.worrying about how you going to look when you get older shouldn't even be an issue if you both love each other.go beyond the looks, & don't break off an engagement because of how someone will LOOK when they older! 3)he's a man, so he can have children anytime in his life.with women, we have at least until 35 maybe 40 to have children with low risk of complications. So yeah, have children, but damn, you only 20! You got about 10+ yrs.why rush it, girl?yeah, 5 more yrs is good.he needs to understand that! Don't have the child so fast!Cuz it's a handful!! 4)WHAT? he sets all the rules? I have heard so many times that older men are controlling, and I didn't believe it until a couple yrs ago when my boyfriend start dating a man 10yrs older than her.He is terrible when it comes to control! B4 you go further u need to talk to him about how thngs need to be = between you 2.if he set some rules, you set some rules, too. No matter how old that man is!! how dare he. 5)and how dare he say he want to MOLD YOU?? Basically he's saying he want to CHANGE YOU!! So something about you he doesn't like.What is a"perfect wife"to him? Cooking/cleaning, taking care of him?? Tell him to give you a definition of a perfect wife.& if it's like I said just now, you let his a** know, you ain't down with what they did in the 1950's. Because of that, you need to think twice about marrying him now. You need to talk all these things over again and again and then get married once both of you got a full understanding. 6)with #6, I'm sorry to say, but basically that's what they call a hypocryt.he needs to understand what being a true christian is.living in sin isn't a true christian life. Please don't get mad wit the advice I'm giving you, but I'm just keeping it real. You need to know the truth about this situation. Please open your eyes and reconsider this engagement, at least until you talked about these problems.he needs to know that he's wrong w/ what he trying to do, and you shouldn't follow up wit him. Love is blind, and it'll take over your mind. It'll make you not see things that's right in front of you. You must realize that some of thse aren't normal, and not acceptable! Please talk to him. Don't let it go on until he understands. This could mess up a marriage, so get it straightened out now.please!
P.s. try going to church with him, because not having God in your life is a terrible thing to do. God will help you mentally and physically, so give church a try! :-)
michellet218
May 1, 2008, 11:10 AM
Oh my God, girl! I just read your other posts! I would've read them before I wrote my last answer, but KP didn't post that 1st answer until after I started writing. Anyway, he got a damn problem! His porn is all about YOUNG BLACK GIRLS!! Are you f***** serious? He got a problem. Seems like he would go after a young girl at his school, why do you think he's teaching?probably because it turns him on to go to work every morning. Seems like he'll be a future sex offender if he keep this crap up. And you just letting this happen? When you said porn collection, I just thought you meant the normal white man, black woman in their late 20's early 30's. But these are little kids! You cannot let this go on! And you see it, but you ain't doing nothing about it! Open those pretty eyes of yours and stand up to him and tell him about how you feel!
And then about your partying.You obviously are not ready to commit to being married to him. You young and still want to party! But that's very understandable, because you still young. That's why it will be a bad decision to marry him now.and then he's controlling! That'll be worse if you get married. When you want to go out, he won't let you. He'll definitely be acting like your father. Reconsider this marriage. You... no YOU ain't ready to get married, especially to a control freak.All your fun days will be over once you married. Your friends will want to go out, but you can't, and then you might break away from each other. And your husband wouldn't care because he'll really have you all to himself, then. YOU ARE NOT READY!Live your life. Damn, you just been dating for 1year, and you're 20 yrs old. You rushin into this , seriously! You too young to end your free life. Why don't you continue dating for a couple more years, and then consider marriage. He rushn you into this and you shouldn't let it happen!!
amIwrong
May 1, 2008, 11:17 AM
OK, now I am going to have to check these other posts, I am missing the boat, but it sounds serious.
Oh my God, girl!! I just read your other posts!! I would've read them before i wrote my last answer, but KP didnt post that 1st answer til after i started writing. anyway, he got a damn problem! his porn is all about YOUNG BLACK GIRLS!!! Are you f***** serious? He got a problem. seems like he would go after a young girl at his school, why do you think he's teaching?probably because it turns him on to go to work every morning. seems like he'll be a future sex offender if he keep this crap up. and you just letting this happen? when you said porn collection, i just thought you meant the normal white man, black woman in their late 20's early 30's. but these are little kids! you cannot let this go on! And you see it, but you ain't doing nothing about it! open those pretty eyes of yours and stand up to him and tell him about how you feel!!
And then about your partying.You obviously are not ready to commit to being married to him. you young and still wanna party! but that's very understandable, because you still young. that's why it will be a bad decision to marry him now.and then he's controlling! That'll be worse if ya'll get married. when you want to go out, he won't let you. he'll definitely be acting like your father. reconsider this marriage. ya'll...no YOU ain't ready to get married, especially to a control freak.All your fun days will be over once ya'll married. your friends will want to go out, but you can't, and then ya'll might break away from each other. and your husband wouldn't care because he'll really have you all to himself, then. YOU ARE NOT READY!Live your life. Damn, yall just been dating for 1year, and you're 20 yrs old. you rushin into this , seriously! You too young to end your free life. why don't ya'll continue dating for a couple more years, and then consider marriage. he rushn you into this and you shouldn't let it happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amIwrong
May 1, 2008, 11:18 AM
Maybe that is why he wants a young girl, some guys get into that because they feel they can control them easier then a women who has time to get comfortable with herself.
Oh my God, girl!! I just read your other posts!! I would've read them before i wrote my last answer, but KP didnt post that 1st answer til after i started writing. anyway, he got a damn problem! his porn is all about YOUNG BLACK GIRLS!!! Are you f***** serious? He got a problem. seems like he would go after a young girl at his school, why do you think he's teaching?probably because it turns him on to go to work every morning. seems like he'll be a future sex offender if he keep this crap up. and you just letting this happen? when you said porn collection, i just thought you meant the normal white man, black woman in their late 20's early 30's. but these are little kids! you cannot let this go on! And you see it, but you ain't doing nothing about it! open those pretty eyes of yours and stand up to him and tell him about how you feel!!
And then about your partying.You obviously are not ready to commit to being married to him. you young and still wanna party! but that's very understandable, because you still young. that's why it will be a bad decision to marry him now.and then he's controlling! That'll be worse if ya'll get married. when you want to go out, he won't let you. he'll definitely be acting like your father. reconsider this marriage. ya'll...no YOU ain't ready to get married, especially to a control freak.All your fun days will be over once ya'll married. your friends will want to go out, but you can't, and then ya'll might break away from each other. and your husband wouldn't care because he'll really have you all to himself, then. YOU ARE NOT READY!Live your life. Damn, yall just been dating for 1year, and you're 20 yrs old. you rushin into this , seriously! You too young to end your free life. why don't ya'll continue dating for a couple more years, and then consider marriage. he rushn you into this and you shouldn't let it happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
michellet218
May 1, 2008, 11:36 AM
maybe that is why he wants a young girl, some guys get into that b/c they feel they can control them easier then a women who has time to get comfortable with herself.
I think that is soooooo tru! Chrissymarie, you really need to think about what you're getting yourself into. It may be all lovey dovey now because you're so much in love with him, but if you don't do something about it now, your future with this man will be really bad. If you don't do something about it now, you will COMPLETELY regret it later on. And everybody you know and love will be telling you "I told you so". Think in the present to fix the future.
chrissymarie
May 1, 2008, 12:13 PM
Girl, this is kinda serious! It may not be enough to end the engagement, but i think it's enough to AT LEAST postpone it. Some of these are kinda serious issues. first, i'm a female, and i never see wuz wrong w/ men having sex videos. hell, i watch them with my man! lol 2)so ya'll 10 yrs apart.worrying about how ya'll gonna look when ya'll get older shouldn't even be an issue if ya'll both love each other.go beyond the looks, & don't break off an engagement jus because of how someone will LOOK when they older!! 3)he's a man, so he can have children anytime in his life.with women, we have at least until 35 maybe 40 to have children with low risk of complications. so yeah, have children, but damn, you only 20! you got bout 10+ yrs.why rush it, girl?yeah, 5 more yrs is good.he needs to understand that! Don't have the child so fast!Cuz its a handful!!! 4)WHAT??he sets all the rules? I have heard so many times that older men are controlling, and i didn't believe it until a couple yrs ago when my bf start dating a man 10yrs older than her.He is terrible when it comes to control! B4 ya'll go further u need to talk to him about how thngs need to be = between you 2.if he set some rules, you set some rules, too. no matter how old dat man is!!!how dare he. 5)and how dare he say he want to MOLD YOU???Basically he's saying he want to CHANGE YOU!!!So something about you he doesn't like.What is a"perfect wife"to him? cooking/cleaning, taking care of him??? tell him to give you a definition of a perfect wife.& if it's like i said just now, you let his a** know, you ain't down with wat they did in the 1950's. Because of that, you need to think twice about marrying him now. ya'll need to talk all these things over again and again and then get married once both of ya'll got a full understanding. 6)with #6, i'm sorry to say, but basically that's what they call a hypocryt.he needs to understand what being a true christian is.living in sin isn't a true christian life. Please don't get mad wit the advice i'm giving you, but i'm just keeping it real. you need to know the truth about this situation. Please open your eyes and reconsider this engagement, at least until yall talked about these problems.he needs to know that he's wrong w/ what he trying to do, and you shouldn't follow up wit him. love is blind, and it'll take over your mind. it'll make you not see things that's right in front of you. you must realize that some of thse aren't normal, and not acceptable! please talk to him. don't let it go on until he understands. this could mess up a marriage, so get it straightened out now.please!!
P.s. try going to church with him, because not having God in your life is a terrible thing to do. God will help you mentally and physically, so give church a try! :-)
Thank you so much for this answer, I feel I want to ask him if he'd like to go to counseling before we get married but I just know he'll say no. He is set in his ways and I'mpretty sure his ways are right because he is so successful in life. I feel I should go home and tell him exactly how I'm feeling and all these issues I have but I'm worried about him calling off the engagement. How embarrassing if he did. I know that sounds stupid but put yourself in my shoes. We announced our engaement at dinner last night to his and my entire family. I just want ways to fix these problems. I know counseling could be the key. How I'll conivnce we need to go without making him angry I don't know.
As for the church stuff. I grew up catholic and then switched to christianity 2 years ago and neither are my thing.
twinkiedooter
May 1, 2008, 12:18 PM
Usually a younger wife or girlfriend or fiancée or whatever is considered a "status trophy" symbol. Right now you are having all your needs met as this is still the courting stage of your relationship. If you don't want to be controlled by him - then you don't need him to control you. You need to consider the fact that he will be the king with a capital K and you will be his willing/unwilling subject. Subject to his whims, subject to his desires, subject to his domineering attitude, etc. etc. I have one word for you - RUN!
michellet218
May 1, 2008, 01:07 PM
Thank you so much for this answer, I feel I want to ask him if he'd like to go to counseling before we get married but I just know he'll say no. He is set in his ways and I'mpretty sure his ways are right because he is so successful in life. I feel I should go home and tell him exactly how I'm feeling and all these issues I have but I'm worried about him calling off the engagement. How embarassing if he did. I know that sounds stupid but put yourself in my shoes. We announced our engaement at dinner last night to his and my entire family. I just want ways to fix these problems. I know counseling could be the key. How I'll conivnce we need to go without making him angry I don't know.
As for the church stuff. I grew up catholic and then switched to christianity 2 years ago and neither are my thing.
Yeah, they always say no to counseling, but put your foot down this time! People don't like to change, but if they want to keep the one they love, they will sacrifice at lease one thing. Just because he's successful in life does NOT mean he is right or his ways are right! Look at all these successful people in this world that did something wrong in their lives! They weren't right! That doesn't even make sense his ways are right because he's successful. What?? Girl wake up please!you think his ways are right because he is your man and you love him, so you're defending him, and siking yourself up, trying to be OK with it, when you know you are not.Ask yourself why?And you scared he going to call off the engagement, and it's going to be embarrassing? No, why don't you call off... no... postpone the engagement.Just tell him that.You tell him that before he tells you.then it won't be "embarrassing" as you say.you worried about some engagement more than your feelings, and that's not right.your feelings come 1st, and if he can't respect that, then you need to let him no!If he really loves you, he wouldn't rush his "20 yr old" girlfriend into marrying him now. And if he really loves you, he would understand that you still got some kinks to work out and would push the engagement back a little. WHAT IS THE RUSH?Ask him that! Seriously. And Who cares if you announced it to everyone @ dinner? It's not embarrassing to tell them you changed your mind for now, and is postponing it.& it's not embarrassing to tell them you changed yo mind because you rushing into it, either. They will understand.I have been putting myself in your situation ever since I read your post for the very first time, and ever since then, I have been thinking what I would do if I were in the situation, and also been thinking what is the right thing to.but I really think counseling would work.don't worry about him getting mad, tell him you already are!Stop worrying about him just this once, and think about yourself this time! It's your turn to put your foot down! Stop letting him make the decisions! This is an equal relationship, so you need to put your foot down when you want to, too! And if he'll do anything for you, then he'll go to counseling for you, too.The way you talk, I can already see that you don't speak up in your relationship when something goes wrong, or when he does something wrong. Communication is a big thing to keep a relationship strong. Because you keep saying what he's going to do if you do this or if you do that.don't worry about what he going to do.you need to show him that you are a STRONG BLACK WOMAN and it's time to listen to what YOU got to say for a change! And if he disagrees, remind him that he is not yo daddy!From the sound of it, he tells you how high to jump And he does make all the rules, just like you said earlier. Girl I seriously can't believe you letting this bs happen. And then you said your parents love him. I don't understand. You must be keeping a lot from your parents because I never heard of parents liking their daughters boyfriend that acts like this!! 99.5% of the time, parents dispize? Their daughters boyfriend if he acts like this one is acting.They must not know a lot about you relationship.If that's the case, they just see the good things that he's doing, and not the bad, because you're not showing them the bad stuff. Please Please Please!! PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN!! PUT IT DOWWWNNNNN!!
chrissymarie
May 1, 2008, 01:26 PM
Yeah, they always say no to counseling, but put your foot down this time! People don't like to change, but if they want to keep the one they love, they will sacrifice at lease one thing. Just because he's successful in life does NOT mean he is right or his ways are right! Look at all these successful people in this world that did something wrong in their lives! they weren't right! that doesn't even make sense his ways are right because he's successful. what???Girl wake up please!you think his ways are right because he is your man and you love him, so you're defending him, and siking yourself up, trying to be ok with it, when you know you are not.Ask yourself why?And you scared he gonna call off the engagement, and it's gonna be embarrassing? No, why don't you call off...no... postpone the engagement.Just tell him that.You tell him that before he tells you.then it won't be "embarrassing" as you say.you worried about some engagement more than your feelings, and that's not right.your feelings come 1st, and if he can't respect that, then you need to let him no!If he really loves you, he wouldn't rush his "20 yr old" girlfriend into marrying him now. And if he really loves you, he would understand that ya'll still got some kinks to work out and would push the engagement back a little. WHAT IS THE RUSH?Ask him that!! Seriously. And Who cares if you announced it to everyone @ dinner? It's not embarrassing to tell them you changed your mind for now, and is postponing it.& it's not embarrassing to tell them you changed yo mind because you rushing into it, either. they will understand.I have been putting myself in your situation ever since i read your post for the very first time, and ever since then, i have been thinking what i would do if i were in the situation, and also been thinking what is the right thing to.but i really think counseling would work.don't worry bout him getting mad, tell him you already are!Stop worrying about him just this once, and think about yourself this time! It's your turn to put your foot down! Stop letting him make the decisions! this is an equal relationship, so you need to put your foot down when you want to, too! And if he'll do anything for you, then he'll go to counseling for you, too.The way you talk, i can already see that you don't speak up in your relationship when something goes wrong, or when he does something wrong. Communication is a big thing to keep a relationship strong. Because you keep saying what he's gonna do if you do this or if you do that.don't worry about what he gonna do.you need to show him that you are a STRONG BLACK WOMAN and it's time to listen to what YOU gotta say for a change! And if he disagrees, remind him that he is not yo daddy!From the sound of it, he tells you how high to jump And he does make all the rules, just like you said earlier. Girl i seriously can't believe you letting this bs happen. And then you said your parents love him. I don't understand. you must be keeping alot from your parents because i never heard of parents liking their daughters boyfriend that acts like this!!! 99.5% of the time, parents dispize? their daughters boyfriend if he acts like this one is acting.They must not know alot about ya'll relationship.If that's the case, they just see the good things that he's doing, and not the bad, because you're not showing them the bad stuff. Please Please Please!!! PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN!!! PUT IT DOWWWNNNNN!!!!
I need to think but thank you for your help. And he's my dad's golf buddy. That's how we met. My dad basically gave me to him.
kp2171
May 1, 2008, 02:06 PM
If he calls off an engagement because he doesn't want to address these issues... doesn't that mean you shouldn't be engaged?
I mean, I'm all for saving face and not putting your foot in your mouth when its possible... but you announced an engagement last night for a realationship that you've wondered about leaving.
So... if he's a little grumpy, well I think its understandable from his view. If you had issues to talk about, you should have brought them up before last night... but that's over and done.
So... you can deal with reality head on or you can try to wish it all away. One way is better for making a lasting relationship. But you get a say in this. You get to choose. You can take action. And if you refuse to do that, you choose to be in this relationship as is.
So... lets pretend he's going to go to counseling. What are the things you want to accomplish? Why would you be there, what would you want to see changed in yourself, and in him?
*btw... since some posts are long (like most of mine) if you respond to a post, you don't have to hit the "quote" button each time, as it strings threads out over many pages... just use peoples member names or similar... for ex, many post "kp, ...." when they want to address something I just said. Just a thought to keep these threads easier to read.
chrissymarie
May 1, 2008, 02:36 PM
Kp... In counseling I would hope to solve the issue of the porn to where he can admit to himself that enjoying pornography portraying young teen women is wrong and hopefully help him to not act on it in the future. Also handle his controlling personality. I'd also like him to see me as an equal and be a little more understanding when it comes to the things I want that differ from the things he wants.
Inpain1
May 1, 2008, 03:06 PM
I'm having doubt about getting married, but are these doubts about getting married to him enough to end an engagement with the man I believe to be my first true love?
1. I believe he has a fetish with the way I look (being black) he is white and has a porn collection which consists of only black women
2. He is 30 and I am 20. (do men really age better than women or am I doomed to be with an old prune?)
3. He wants children now, I don't want them for atleast 5 more years.
4. Am I his fiance or his child? (He pays for everything and sets all the rules)
5. Should I be worried about the fact he said he wants to mold me into the perfect woman/ wife?
6. He goes to church and pretends to be religious yet lives a sinful life with me... ( and I don't like church or religion)
Please help me make my final decision.
Hi Chrissy...
I hate to say this, but I think that you already know what you want to do. If you have questions about marriage... listen to those gut feelings! Take it from a 41 year old mother of four... you want to be sure about the rest of your life. I was 36 before I met my soul mate, the biggest thing that I can say about my husband is that he is my best friend. That is what it is all about... romantic loves fades, sex fades... you have to marry someone that you are willing to wash dirty socks for, and do all of those mundane things that are a part of everyday life... don't be unsure about anything... if you are unsure now, you will only multiply that feeling by millions if you marry. Good luck Sweetie... I know that it will be hard for you in some aspect, which ever way you choose. Sending you the best wishes! :-)
kp2171
May 1, 2008, 03:12 PM
Concerning your counseling "wish list"... all of those things deal with issues tied to him... his "faults"...
Nothing in there talks about your actions or inactions, your enabling, or your shortfalls.
Concerning porn... I'm not going to judge him or you. As long as its legal, its his moral decision... one you need to live with, or without... but I'm not going to condemn him for porn of young women if its legal. After all, he is dating a young, black woman. I will agree that if it's a line that you don't want crossed, it should be made known. We can go on and on about compatibility and not trying to change the other person... but most people concede some things along the way to be in a long term relationship. If this is something you feel strongly about, fine. If he stands his ground, its his right. And your right to walk.
Concerning his controlling nature... I understand he is successful and you see that this control is a part of his success. OK.
You get the respect you demand, and sometimes not even that. I say that a lot. It means if you cannot stand up for yourself, don't expect others to do it for you. So... while you hope counseling will help him see you as an equal... how can he if you aren't able to stand up for yourself? You have delegated yourself to your position and accepted this place... and along the way you decided to marry him.
An example... my wife works in a male dominated field, and is in a position that is male dominated as well. On a recent international trip, she was the only woman present out of over 30 people. She doesn't wait for others to give her equal footing. She has to take it. Demand it. Stand up eye to eye and be the part.
So... maybe he can give a little on the controlling side... but don't expect him to give you anything you aren't willing to take for yourself. I wonder if you've played the lesser role just because it was easier, and you didn't want to make waves... you thought conceding to his wishes was the best way to keep the peace and to keep the relationship afloat?
If that's the case, this is an issue you are going to have to work on... meaning YOU need to work on this too... not just him. Its fine to see him as successful and give him some credit due to being more experienced... he probably has some wisdom you haven't had to gather yet.
But if you are going to be an equal, you need to act like you deserve it.
I'm not trying to blame you... I'm trying to make you think about what you want for yourself from counseling... not just what he needs to change in your opinion.
N0help4u
May 1, 2008, 04:36 PM
Listen to your instincts. Often guys can hide and control their true nature until they have you head over heels for them. Sounds like he could very well wait until you marry him and then leave you up in bed while he watches porn all night, start controlling your every move and telling you what you can and can not think, feel, say or do.
He doesn't see you as somebody that is strong emotionally or character wise.
Him saying he wants to mold you shows that he is into you for your age and inexperience.
mustard_seed
May 4, 2008, 03:30 PM
I'm in complete agreement with everything posted here. Michellet218 is really being helpful to you. All of us are asking the same basic question: Why do you NEED to marry this man?
liz28
May 5, 2008, 01:58 PM
I read all your posts and from all of them you sound very confuse. All your posting are conerning this one guy in different topics all under to weeks. I don't think you reading every post but don't letting it sink in. It like when your parents say it going in one ear and out the other and all because he pays for everything does not means he owns you, but I think you likes he pay for everything because you let that be known in all your posts. Also it seem your family likes that as well because they might look at it as well at least he takes care of you. Anyway your going do want you want, I don't think marriage is something you want right now, at least with this guy. You should reread all the answers members how gave because there are from experience and really use their advise. And to add if he do want to see an counselor you should see one for yourself and I don't saying your crazy but its good to talk abouts your fears, dreams, love, anything and it will only make you strong.
Good luck!
alwaystrue
May 15, 2008, 01:45 PM
Your must have work out your differences if now the agreement is about having a threesome.
sassyT
May 16, 2008, 01:33 PM
I'm having doubt about getting married, but are these doubts about getting married to him enough to end an engagement with the man I believe to be my first true love?
1. I believe he has a fetish with the way I look (being black) he is white and has a porn collection which consists of only black women
2. He is 30 and I am 20. (do men really age better than women or am I doomed to be with an old prune?)
3. He wants children now, I don't want them for atleast 5 more years.
4. Am I his fiance or his child? (He pays for everything and sets all the rules)
5. Should I be worried about the fact he said he wants to mold me into the perfect woman/ wife?
6. He goes to church and pretends to be religious yet lives a sinful life with me... ( and I don't like church or religion)
Please help me make my final decision.
This Guy sound creepy..
talaniman
May 17, 2008, 12:11 PM
I think you can wait as you have to many issues, and doubts to be ready for an undertaking like marriage. What's the hurry??
JoeCanada76
May 17, 2008, 12:18 PM
You need to make this decision on your own. Not any of us can answer or make the answer easier for you.
As far as liking black women, everybody has their own likes. Does not mean there is anything wrong with it.
As far as paying everything, you let him do you not. That is partly your choice as well.
As far as rules, what rules? If he is making all the rules and your listening to him your not helping the situation.
What do you mean by the fact that he goes to church and is religious but lives a sinful life with you, what exactly does that mean?
As far as wanting to mold you and change you to what he likes. This is wrong.
Yes, like others have mentioned Counseling is important here. As Tal has said what is the rush when you have so many concerns.
mimi03
May 18, 2008, 06:30 PM
Ok... we have a connection I have with no one else. We have exactly the same sense of humor and can talk for hours. He is my comfort. I feel so safe with him. He is extremely attractive to me and so great and considerate in bed. He has the best taste in food and teaches me something new everyday. My family loves him which is very important to me. He usually supports me 100% and helps me make the right decsions at times. He is taking care of me and tries his hardest to make sure I have everything I need and am happy. although theses are my "best years" i sometimes feel giving them to him is totally worth it for all that he can do for me. But then again there are times when I have my doubts too.
This speaks volumes to me, everything you said sounds a lot like "I like him because he does .... for me" what do you actually love about him? Reading this makes me think you're in love with the way you're being taking care of by him (this can change!) and the sex (that's called lust!)... You shouldn't marry him, although you say he may be your first love I don't think you know what that means yet... this is coming from someone your own age, just wait!
talaniman
May 19, 2008, 07:56 AM
What's the hurry to tie yourself to his star?
lma2931
May 19, 2008, 08:16 AM
Hi Chrissy. The one main thing that I saw as a red flag here is the children issue. You should never bring children into the equaiton unless both people are 100 % into it. As for the rest of it, if he is you "true love" then age shouldn't matter, you agreed to marry him knowing his age, and that he likes porn, and that he pretends to be religious. I think that you already know in your heart the best thing to do, or you wouldn't be asking the question. If you are having doubts, then communicate, about all of the issues, It could end up saving your relatioship and making you both stronger partners.
liz28
May 19, 2008, 05:55 PM
I believe she already knows right from wrong and if she has all these issues already there would be many down the road, but the only question I had for her if he wasn't paying for everything would that make her decision easier?
jasmine_rezzag
May 23, 2008, 01:40 AM
For me:
1. if my man has a fetish with the way I look,I will feel happy but not worry!2
2. ten years age difference is not a big deal! I prefer my man older than me,3-10 years is perfect! I like mature men and they know well how to take care of their women!
3. you are only 20,it is too young for you to have child,can hold this after 5 years,talk with your man about this,if he really loves you,he can understand!
4. I like my man who is a little controlling,but set all rules is too horrible! He can set rules,but make sure your rules are also acceptable for him which make sure you are respectful and be loved!
5. If he wants to mold you, which means he wants to change you,he is not satisfied with some hobits or activities of you! Mold you to be a perfect wife is only an excuse! What is the definition of perfect wife for him? He loves and would like to marry the perfect wife of the difinition or the real woman like you? Ask him about this! Do not make any changes easily for someone unless which is needed and you are happy to!if not,both of you will not be happy for the changes,troubles will come after that!