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ouzo200
Jul 30, 2004, 06:19 PM
Hi I am a dual citizen of both Greece and the USA. I have a question? When traveling out and to the US I would use my US passport. I understand that part. But say I leave the USA with my USA passport. When I land for instance in Germany do I use my Greek passport or my US passport? And on the way back I understand I must use my Greek passport to leave Greece. But when I arrive to change planes in Germany Do I show my Greek or US passport?
Thanks
Sorry if you do not understand my questions.
Franceroxmyworld
Dec 8, 2004, 03:12 PM
Dear ouzo200,
I think that when you are entering any EU country you should use your Greek passport, as Greece is an EU country, and when you enter the US you should use your US passport. However, I don't know about the Greek passport law when leaving Greece, I think maybe you should just take both just in case, lol.
hope i could help :confused:
-Ben :)
secedenyc
Dec 10, 2004, 09:21 AM
My father was born in Greece and lived there 'til he was 4. He recently passed away, but I do have a copy of his birth certifcate. Would I be able to get a Greek citizenship based on his birthplace? I'd love to be able to work in the EU. The political climate in the USA at the moment has me feeling a little reactionary too.
albena
Dec 10, 2004, 04:27 PM
I. After the Greek embassy in Washington
(http://www.greekembassy.org/Embassy/content/en/Article.aspx?office=1&folder=28&article=95) :
Greek Citizenship
Individuals of Greek Descent
Please submit the following original documents:
-Birth certificate
-Certificate of christening
-Marriage certificate
-Valid passport
-Father's birth certificate
-Parents' marriage certificate from the church and marriage registration certificate from the city. If the father was not registered in Greece then:
1.Grandfather's certificate of registration from the municipal records of the city/town where he was registered
2.Grandparent's marriage certificate
II. A good article at:
http://www.helleniccomserve.com/greekcitizenship.html
". Those that can prove that they have a parent or a grandparent who was born in Greece and obtained the Greek nationality by birth can claim the Greek citizenship now if they can find documents proving the Greek citizenship of their ancestor. According to Greek law there is no problem if the applicant wants to keep his/her present nationality. So, a Greek American can become Greek citizen without losing his/her American citizenship.
The most important document that a person of Greek origin can use to obtain the citizenship is a certificate from the local municipality in Greece certifying that a certain ancestor was born in Greece, has a municipality number, and therefore was Greek by birth.
The next line of required documents consists of the marriage certificate of that ancestor, the birth certificate of their child, until we reach the person applying for citizenship today. If that ancestor was a grandfather, we need his marriage certificate, the birth certificate of his child, the marriage certificate of the child that is the parent of the present applicant and the birth certificate of the present applicant. If the applicant is married, we need his/her marriage certificate as well."
If you really decide to apply for Greek citizenship, maybe a good idea is to find a company that will proceed with your papers.
And by the way, last years statistics said that Luxemburg was the EU country with the highest living standard. Haven’t seen the numbers for 2004 yet, but as far as I heard the preferable EU country (living, working, insurances, healthcare, education) this year is Ireland.
traderruss
May 14, 2005, 03:12 PM
Hi
I don't know if anyone can help me with this, but my wife can claim Greek citizenship via descent and we both wish to reside and work in the EU for a while. Can I also qualify for a Greek passport by virtue of our marriage?
I can't find any information on this, but it would seem to me that I must be able to because otherwise Greeks couldn't marry foreigners and live together.
I would appreciate any advice on this issue
Thanks
karolides
May 23, 2005, 01:30 AM
The closest info I've found on Greek citizenship via marriage was a comment in a website about "giving the lifetime gift of citizenship to family members." This was a website for a company that helps people get their citizenship for a fee.
I have another question. We have most of our paperwork, but perhaps not the municipal certificate. One source I found implied that if you had the other relevant paperwork, the municipal certificate can be re-issued. Does anyone know anything about that?
simply_katie
Jul 5, 2005, 11:43 AM
I was born in Greece. My father was in the air force at the time. I was wondering, since neither of my parents are greek, would I be able to get dual citizenship for just being born there? I have a greek birth certificate. Or how would I go about finding out if I could get dual citizenship. Any information would help. Thank you.
G4-450
Jul 10, 2005, 11:36 AM
ouzo ra malaka d gun kness doe gun kness malaka
Yatti malakias?
If you want a greek citizenship but where born outside greece its simple, do army or public service for a max of 24 months, you can serve 2 months a year for several years, how ever you like.. or wait 2 years until the laws are changed.
If you where born in greece and want a U.S. citizenship get a greek passport before you hand over your green card to the U.S. for a U.S. one.
And have you know that it's a choice to do so and not there right to take it from you, they only make you pay for fees when they do to obtain originals or documents, it's a huge business by the way.
This greek guy I know has legally obtained 3 passports, greek, U.S. and canadian. also you can have as many as 6 based on a clean criminal history, marriage status and other reasons like diplomacy, but you enter with the passport of that country, there is not only one EU country by the way.. if you get caught not using a passport from THAT country, you get a fine.
But believe it when I tell you that NO ONE WILL LET YOU KNOW THIS but a immigration lawyer, especially since some governments want people to buy new ID cards like the ones England wants to pass for 300 pounds, in a country like the UK where nothing changes, it makes you think about those bombs recently, and who really is gaining from them,
In the U.K. they always tell the U.S. that the a big bang theory is irrelevant to the Brits, and its time it happened for a change since change never really takes place, that is Jack Straw and Tony Blair for you... either-wise they will stay in the dark ages.
Anyone wishes they can correct me if I am wrong, none of this information is my opinion but from sources and people that have been legally advised.
susanwente
Jul 17, 2005, 08:50 AM
Hi - Just wondering what the procedure would be to obtain Greek citizenship if my parents were never married but my father was born and raised in Greece? How can I prove to the Greek government that he's really my father? Would he have to adopt me? He's not on my birth certificate because my mother was married to someone else when I was born... but I'm in the process of changing my name to my Greek father's name and will have my birth certificate officially changed by court order.
Thanks for any help!!
Susan
G4-450
Jul 17, 2005, 10:29 AM
Hi - Just wondering what the procedure would be to obtain Greek citizenship if my parents were never married but my father was born and raised in Greece? How can I prove to the Greek government that he's really my father? Would he have to adopt me? He's not on my birth certificate because my mother was married to someone else when I was born... but I'm in the process of changing my name to my Greek father's name and will have my birth certificate officially changed by court order.
Thanks for any help!!
Susan
Well it funny you ask this,
I have a friend who also married with out documents basically.
Options
Basically, you need to prove you have a living relative in order to get a passport into that country, all except Israel, Austria, Switzerland and Germany,
-Greece puts greek orthodox on all ID cards, even if you're a jew or muslim which either should agree to do, you have to live with it if you want one, and you have to have one either way.
-Israel only requires your Jewish, if you're a convert then you do public service and act as a second class citizen.
-Germany and Austria require German Blood. or simply nordic features, and if your not a blonde you might be screened closely to see what is wrong with your blood and get rejected. Austria has a large of its population not aware that they are in the EU and still defualt to POST anexed asitrian rules Hitler left them with, only the older people that is.
-Switzerland has this obsession with population control since they are dependent on economical reasons for there people. no one even born there from a certain time who has not have had family for at-least 4 generations can get a citizenship.
Remember all these countries claim to democracy, which is anyone can have the equal right for a citizenship.
Let me demonstrate the Greek Ideology to you, this is a greek embassy in London, so you do not need to speak greek to understand the requirements:
Here is a link to the Greek Embassy in london (http://www.greekembassy.org.uk/) and a interesting page on your case (http://www.greekembassy.org.uk/pages_en/citizenships.html)
And this should be all you need to know about asking a Preist, read the large text.
Consular Affairs - Passports.
Click here to go back
A. Passport validity for travelling to Greece
British Subjects and all other EU passport holders travelling to Greece do not require a visa and may travel as long as their passport is valid during the period of their stay in Greece.
B. Procedure for issuing*or renewing*a Greek Passport
In order to issue a new Greek passport or to renew one, the following documents are required:? 1. An application made personally in the Consulate General. In case you live outside London, and cannot come in person in the Consulate, your signature, in the above application, has to be attested by the Honorary Consul of your area or by a Greek priest... (you need to do some bible studies) :)
2. Your old passport.
3. Two (2) recent passport-sized photographs, which must be attested by the Greek Honorary Consul or the Greek priest of your area, if you are unable to appear in person in the Consulate General.
4. Identity card.
5. A recent certificate by the Municipality or the Parish that you are registered in the municipality roll of the Greek government.
6. Any proof (e.g. a P60, or a tax return form, which will prove that you are a permanent UK resident). Proof of your address (e.g. telephone, electricity or water bill, driving licence etc.).*
For students, a letter from the university or place of study is required.
7. For male citizens between the age of 19 - 45 who have fulfilled their national service the following are required:
• Army discharge papers or certificate of type “B” of military status or a registration on an old passport that will show the fulfilment of their military obligation.*
For male citizens between the age of 19 - 45 who have not fulfilled their military duties the following are required:
• A certificate of lawful exemption from military service or certificates of type “B” by the appropriate Recruitment Office.*
8. In case of a minor, a signed consent by both parents must be produced.
9. Consular duties of [ Click here for List of Consular Fees ], are made payable by postal order or in cash only. Cheques are not accepted.*
A self addressed registered envelope for the secure return of the passports and other supporting documents.
Time for issue: Approximately three - four (3-4) weeks
This country calls itself a democracy, no wonder muslims are convinced everyone lies about there democracies, they are all smokescreens on the outside still running another imperialist crusade war.
mfunnie
Jul 18, 2005, 11:25 AM
Katie: My background is similar to yours and I have the similar questions: My parents are American and I was born in La Chapelle, France. Since my father was in the US military (Army), he had to fill out a Department of Defense (DOD) form declaring that I was "born of American parents overseas." I have copies of both my French birth certificate and DOD form having lost originals over 20 years ago. I do have a valid US passport.
I have two questions. Who would I speak to about getting original copies of my birth certificate? And, I would like to explore the possibility of obtaining French citizenship without jeopardizing my US citizenship. I have several former military-dependant friends who are in the same position.
G4-450
Jul 18, 2005, 01:14 PM
Katie: My background is similar to yours and I have the similar questions: My parents are American and I was born in La Chapelle, France. Since my father was in the US military (Army), he had to fill out a Department of Defense (DOD) form declaring that I was "born of American parents overseas." I have copies of both my French birth certificate and DOD form having lost originals over 20 years ago. I do have a valid US passport.
I have two questions. Who would I speak to about getting original copies of my birth certificate? And, I would like to explore the possibility of obtaining French citizenship without jeopardizing my US citizenship. I have several former military-dependant friends who are in the same position.
Again from my experience of another friend who was born in the U.S. and now has a french Passport. he simply went to the embassy with his mother and did it all there. you get into the embassies with a person who has a passport or national ID card of that country, after this you can solve all your problems.
Been that you have a dual national thing, especially U.S. expect hostility, france likes to also punish there citizens who live abroad for a long time,
I had a friend who had a hard time to get there french ID card again because they lost there original one, French athorities wanted all these papers to prove she was her, origionals with special stamps, she waited over 8 months and they kept losing her papers she said, later they told her it was in case she decided to go back to the states that they did this, so they could make sure she stays this time for good.
I know it does not sound logical, but that is how things get done in France.
Start with the embassey.
JustinAce
Aug 10, 2005, 03:20 AM
Hi - Just wondering what the procedure would be to obtain Greek citizenship if my parents were never married but my father was born and raised in Greece?? How can I prove to the Greek government that he's really my father? Would he have to adopt me? He's not on my birth certificate because my mother was married to someone else when I was born...but I'm in the process of changing my name to my Greek father's name and will have my birth certificate officially changed by court order.
Thanks for any help!!!
Susan
WOW, this is uncanny. Susanwente I am in the same situation! My father moved to Australia from Greece at age 18. At the age of 19 meets my mother, they "create" me, they don't get married, he runs off because he is immature, I am born with no father, mum gets married when I am 3 yrs old, step father does not bother to adopt me but rather just signs my birthcertificate so it looks like he's my real father (but he's not). I grow up. I have a crap relationship with my stepfather because I am not his son and because I'm a "foreign" looking kid. Now I'm all grown. I'm a Greek-Australian and visibly so, and have studied lots for Greek and was so happy when we won Euro 2004, BUT.. I need a Greek passport! What to do? It's so much damned trouble!! Are you friends with your Greek father now? I know mine.. he's a bit dodgy, but I think he will sign my papers... any suggestions, help, assistance, advice, guidance is very appreciated. Also would like to hear from others in similar situations. Email:
[email protected] ;)
Heidi Laurel
Aug 11, 2005, 12:30 PM
I was born in Greece. my father was in the air force at the time. I was wondering, since neither of my parents are greek, would i be able to get dual citizenship for just being born there? I have a greek birth certificate. Or how would i go about finding out if i could get dual citizenship. Any information would help. thank you.
Hi, Katie,
I'm in the same situation--born in Greece to American parents (there on vacation) with a Greek birth certificate. I too would like to get dual citizenship. Have you had any luck getting information? Thanks!
Heidi Nevin
greekdutchguy
Sep 11, 2005, 09:14 AM
Hello My name's Andreas. My mother's father (my maternal grandfather) was born in Greece and moved here to the States with my grandmother (who's from Holland) in 1969. I was wondering if I'd be able to attain greek citizenship through my grandfather. I've read different requirements on different pages. I have my orthodox baptism certificate , my mom's birth certificate , my grandfather's birth certificate, my grandparent's marriage certificate , and of course my birth certificate. I wish to go study in Holland for University and an EU passport would deffinitely be to my advantage. Am I eligible for Greek citizenship? Please write back soon.
Andreas
G4-450
Sep 11, 2005, 09:31 AM
Hi
You need a living relative to present you in the greek embassy in order to get that citizenship, this applies for any country.
You have to walk in with your relative and there greek ID,
( a passport for sure or ID card )
Then you can get it.
That is all that it will take.
The best website for greek embassy info in this is the UK greek site, the rest are hacked up fakes. greece is notorious for having lazy workers on hand. :rolleyes:
greekdutchguy
Sep 11, 2005, 09:37 AM
So even though it's my grandfather instead of mother or father I am still eligible? Thank you for the information! Also I was wondering what you meant by go to the consulate with greek ID? Would that be a Greek passport or.. Also, Do I have to make the request in person or can I send it in the mail? How long is processising tie?
Thank you,
Andreas
G4-450
Sep 11, 2005, 09:43 AM
Normaly
You can not enter any embasey with out a passport ior ID from that country, once you do with a relative, any, even cousin, as long as your names match or you can prove your relatives, then your in.
I said it before around here, a greek priest can do anything you want if he likes you.
But here,
http://www.greekembassy.org.uk/pages_en/citizenships.html
Check this link out
kanellt
Sep 14, 2005, 02:29 PM
Hello,
My husband was born in Greece (Thessoloniki) and needs a official or certified copy of his Greek birth certificate for immigration/visa purposes. We live in the United States right now.
Does anyone know where to obtain that and how long it takes?
TIA
G4-450
Sep 14, 2005, 02:42 PM
Hello,
My husband was born in Greece (Thessoloniki) and needs a official or certified copy of his Greek birth certificate for immigration/visa purposes. We live in the United States right now.
Does anyone know where to obtain that and how long it takes?
TIA
Well , its funny you ask this
I was living in the U.S. most of my life and I went to the greek embassy in NY to get a passport, they of-course asked for living relatives.
I got the passport but then this scary question came up, MILITARY TIME!
And that is 2 years and from what I understand, the age max climbed up until the 40s now!
In order for me to avoid the military time I was told to get
1-a paper that stated I lived outside the U.S. so long and proved I resided in another country and my things and life is there.
2-a recent copy of my birth certificate from the town I was born in, and a relative or lawyer can do this for me.
Also, I can go to greece for 3 months but any more then this would mean been abducted by the Military.
So for your question, I had to get my official birth certificate, and it also had to be stamped recently and within 6 months! this took my step dad about 15 minutes, he said he walked into the office and had a coffee with the guys there while they did it, and no one really does this so its allways a surprise. but even if you have a birth certificate from a time ago, its not good according to the embassy, it needs a stamp, this was about 12 years ago, I imagine some things changed, but from talking to the people in my town they told me everyone is great, everything is the same, just new ID cards and passports that say EU on them now, birth certificates are the same, as well in France and many EU countries, a stamp to certifiy that they are recent is required..
This is the way I got it, and I wanted to tell you all this because from what you can see, you have to go get it from greece.
I say go to your embassey and ask, also contact relatives in greece if possible, also to note, a lawyer can do this for you in greece.
ipatrox
Sep 27, 2005, 05:02 PM
I was adopted as infant by American born Greeks-Americans in Greece and became a naturalized American citizen a few years later. My lawyer says the only way for me to obtain a bona fide Greek birth certificate is by having my adoptive parents become Greek citizens. Anyone else heard of such a thing? Is there any way around this?
G4-450
Sep 27, 2005, 06:38 PM
I was adopted as infant by American born Greeks-Americans in Greece and became a naturalized American citizen a few years later.
Where you (yourself) born?
My lawyer says the only way for me to obtain a bona fide Greek birth certificate is by having my adoptive parents become Greek citizens. Anyone else heard of such a thing? Is there any way around this
If you are depending on the Citizen Status of your parents to get a citizenship then this sounds correct for any country they are citizens of.
However,
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The easiest ay to get a Greek Citizenship is the same way to get one for Zionist-Israel, convert to there religion.
In Israel you get a citizenship if your Jewish,
So for Greece, you need to become Greek Orthodox!
You Need certifications to show that you had been bathtised etc...
Ask at a Greek Church... so much for demacracy.
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How ever, technically speaking
1-If your parents where born in Greece, then they have the right to go with a living relative who is a Greek citizen and get there Greek Passport / citizenship now, and then yours as well. (make sure to get a military type-B waiver) to avoid doing 2 years service.
OR
2-Or you or you and your parents simply live in Greece for the time to earn a citizenship like any where else with the documents providing proof you have some what birth rights.
-As I understand this, once your parents have a Greek Passport, they then have to go to Greece and wait out the 3 months tourist time (based on Visa like periods).
Then, after this they can apply as residents living in Greece by providing all the documentation again like the Greek Embassy.
Also, if you or your parents work for at least 6 months in Greece, you can get the Security Social and health benefits as well, and for sure your Greek then..
ipatrox
Sep 27, 2005, 07:33 PM
Perhaps there is some confusion to clear up.
I was born in Greece to a known (family name) Greek birth mother. My father's background is not known. My American-born adoptive parents are Greek Orthodox. My lawyer says that my adoptive parents need to become Greek citizens for me to obtain a legal Greek birth certificate. I have been baptized Greek Orthodox in America.
G4-450
Sep 27, 2005, 10:34 PM
Perhaps there is some confusion to clear up.
I was born in Greece to a known (family name) Greek birth mother. My father's background is not known. My American-born adoptive parents are Greek Orthodox. My lawyer says that my adoptive parents need to become Greek citizens for me to obtain a legal Greek birth certificate. I have been baptized Greek Orthodox in America.
Yes of-course
You did not mention that you where born in greece as I read again your very last post. excuse me.
Your parents do NOT have to be Greek or Israeli for you to obtain your greek birth certificate. you yourself can get it with your ID. its your property not theirs.
I think this lawyer wants you to pay him to be your power of attorney so that he can get it for you: But I advise that unless the lawyer can grantee all this is going to cost less then a trip to greece and with no hidden charges or add on charges later again as they usually do then and only then it is worth it.
Or he gave you good advise, which is that it is faster for your parents get there citizenship then its all setlled.
But your parents have to go through routine steps to get all this too.
I mention the religious part to get to that point where I had a tip for you or your parents. My tip was going to be that if your parents needed a living greek relative to present the at the consulate or to obtain theirs or your documents, they could then get a greek priest from your area now to contact a priest from the town your relatives live or lived in greece to verify you all and so that they can plea as witnesses for your status.
This gives the consulate a good reason to surrender to you all you're a greek passport, which in a democracy, the key as a citizenship is the passport.
byanka
Dec 19, 2005, 05:17 AM
Hi - I have a son born in Romania, with a greek.We didn't married.I have his declaration made in front of public notary that he agree my son have his name and that he is the father.Does anybody know how can I get greek citizenship for my son?
I ask embassy but they said I must come there with the father.He disappeared.What can I do?Please help!
STONY
Dec 29, 2005, 10:14 AM
If You Are Leaving The U.s. Under A U.s.a. Passport Your Name Is Already In The Big Comp[uter That Tracks People. To Try To Gain Entry Into Another Country On A Second Passport Bight Bring You Some Difficulties.
AngPitsakis
May 4, 2006, 12:40 PM
I have a question to add:
I am a US citizen born of a Greek father and American mother. My father is the only in his family to emigrate from Greece, so I still have a large family living in Greece.
I am applying for Greek citizenship with the help of my Unlces in Athens. I have read info on numerous websites, and am worried about the following:
My parents (who are now divorced) had a civil marriage and were not married in the Greek Orthodox or any church.
Could this be a problem??
I am baptised Greek Orthodox, but am not very religious myself, and my family does not officially belong to a church. I do not speak Greek fluently, but very much want to and am trying to learn it.
Do you really think it would take 6-12 months for me to receive my passport? I read this is the average time if someone only has one Greek parent, and especially if their from a large city like Athens or Piraeus.
I ask because I am going to study abroad in Greece next fall and a, required to get a residence visa.. that is if I don't get my passport first. I will arrive in Greece in late July and would need to have the passport/citizenship by October... is this possible?
STONY
May 5, 2006, 07:18 AM
I Truly Wish I Could Help You But I Am Totally Illiterate On International Laws... sorry, Stony
guitargeezer1951
May 21, 2006, 02:57 PM
So, how about Austria. My grandmother was born in Vienna and lived there until the age of 15 I think. Can I legally apply for citizenship there and would that give me a dual citizenship with the US/Austria?
Jonegy
May 22, 2006, 08:18 AM
If European law conicides with our (UK) law - if you were born there you should be able to get a copy of your birth certificate which as far as I understand it is the first document you need whether there are any other requirement you should be able to find out from the Austrian Consulate.
STONY
May 23, 2006, 10:19 AM
Byanka,
Your Best Bet Is To Speak To An Attorney. They'll Know The Laws.
Jonegy
May 23, 2006, 01:06 PM
Errrrmmmmm?? Don't Attorneys, Lawyers, Solicitors and their ilk tend to charge for their advise??
I have always had very good advise from the consulates of whichever country I have been travelling to - and if they don't know the laws of their own countries - who does? And the best part is that the service is FREE :D
guitargeezer1951
May 23, 2006, 06:46 PM
Thank you for your help.
fotia88
Jul 14, 2006, 08:01 PM
I was born in the USA and my father was born in Greece and also had citizenship in USA. My mother's mother was born in Greece and my mother's father's parents were born in Greece. Is there any way I can get Greek citizenship?
Kenobi4
Jul 17, 2006, 05:21 PM
Bring both passports to customs.
thegreek1130
Jul 31, 2006, 12:26 PM
My grandfather was born in Greece, but I don't know if we have proof. The family is from the Volos-area. How can I get an official copy of his birth certificate if there weren't really accurate records at the time? He was born in the late 1800's...
Thanks!
Christina
sarahope
Aug 24, 2006, 08:42 AM
I was born in athens greece, my dad was in the airforce.
Wondering if I have dual citizenship?
jrstrother
Aug 30, 2006, 08:38 PM
Hi, my name is Josh, and I was wondering what I have to do to get duel citizenship for Greece. I don't have any greek heritage, but I will be working over there a lot. Would it simply be easier to keep up a work permit?
Wondering, Josh
Tireman
Nov 14, 2006, 12:31 PM
Since this predominantly is about Greek/American citizenship, I recommend the following:
Do a Google search for Dorian Kokas, or go to greecetravel.com and look around. These two resources will tell you what you need to know about becoming a Greek/American citizen.
Basically, if you're of Greek descent (at least to 3 generations), you qualify for Greek citizenship. There may be military service required under certain circumstances. Obtaining citizenship is as easy as "claiming" it.
To expedite the process, contact the Greek consulate offices that service your home state.
There are also consequences to becoming a Greek citizen. For instance, if you or a close relative has a US government security clearance, becoming a "foreign national" could cause them some problems.
Depending on how and where you live, you could be subject to taxation in the US and in Greece. European taxes are much higher than in the US.
Having dual citizenship is moot unless you need it. Do you really intend to live or work in Greece? Or are you obtaining a Greek passport so you can work throughout the EU?
There are many things to consider and I will answer all further questions to the best of my ability.
Tireman
Tireman
Nov 14, 2006, 12:33 PM
John Trother-
I would suggest you contact the Greek consulate at once. Obtaining citizenship will be much more involved for you. Plus, you should already have the work visa, so making the switch would probably do you more harm than good.
Tireman
Nov 14, 2006, 12:35 PM
SaraHope-
Your dual citizenship is already in place provided you have Greek heritage. If your dad was just stationed in Greece in the US Air Force, I don't think the "born in Greece" codicil of the law applies. I think they would treat that at sovereign US soil, much like an embassy, and therefore, not technically a part of Greece.
kathy7289
Nov 21, 2006, 08:11 AM
Can anyone join the greek orthodox church
kathy7289
Nov 21, 2006, 08:13 AM
Can I apply for an irish citizen for a passport
Tireman
Nov 21, 2006, 08:03 PM
Kathy,
Anyone who wants to be Greek Orthodox can join the church. It's a matter of religion mostly.
As for the Irish citizenship, I can't answer that one with any accuracy.
penkitten
Mar 14, 2007, 07:02 PM
Perhaps there is some confusion to clear up.
I was born in Greece to a known (family name) Greek birth mother. My father's background is not known. My American-born adoptive parents are Greek Orthodox. My lawyer says that my adoptive parents need to become Greek citizens for me to obtain a legal Greek birth certificate. I have been baptized Greek Orthodox in America.
Greek Nationality Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_nationality_law)
Acquisition of Greek Nationality by Birth
The child of a Greek citizen acquires the Greek nationality as from the time of his/her birth, the birth place is irrelavent.
The child born on Greek territory acquires the Greek nationality as from the time of their birth, provided that they do not acquire by birth a foreign nationality or that it is of unknown nationality.
Acquisition of Greek Nationality by Recognition of a Child
An alien born out of wedlock is automatically Greek if the mother is Greek. If the father is Greek and paternity can be proven,the child will become Greek when an application is submited for the child to become a Greek citizen, providing the child has not yet reached his/her 18th birthday, then he/she must make a request themselves to become Greek.
Acquisition of Greek Nationality by Naturalisation
An alien who has attained the 18th year of age may become Greek by naturalisation.
The following prerequisites are required for naturalisation: A declaration of the alien made before the mayor or the chairman of the village council where he/she is domiciled or resides, wherein it is stated that he/she wishes to be naturalised. The declaration is submitted in the presence of two Greek citizens serving as witnesses, For the alien ethnic Greek living abroad this declaration may be submitted before the Greek consul of his/her domicile, who will then transmit it to the Ministry of the Interior together with a relevant report.
If the alien is not an ethnic Greek, a total of ten years of residence in Greece within the last twelve years before the submission of the application for naturalisation or five years of residence in Greece after the declaration concerning naturalisation. An application for naturalisation submitted to the Ministry of the Interior.
The children of the alien who is naturalised become Greeks if, at the time of completion of the naturalisation proceedings, they are not married and they have not attained the 18th year of age.
shonshon
Jun 23, 2007, 12:52 AM
You must understand that the greek law is quite difirenet that other european countries
Although greece is eu- country- please get more information on this law firm website
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Guest
Apr 4, 2008, 07:50 AM
Hi if you have dual citizenship and on one passport your first name differs from the other which is translation in english will I have a problem when entering /exit US and EU? Do they have to be the same first name?
acrules3
May 4, 2008, 06:46 PM
Technically you should be fine: you'll show your US passport to the American immigration officer, and your EU passport to the EU folks. The only place it could get tricky I guess is the airline that matches a passport to the ticket - my recommendation is to have the airline ticket printed the same spelling as your American passport, and use that passport with all your dealings with the airline.
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 05:44 PM
Yes you can get citizenship by descent!! Yay! For you I know that this is old... like 6 years old and I hope that you are already there, but this is for everyone else that is interested... I sure the hell am!! Anxious is not the word!! This clima
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 05:50 PM
This is a trick question because once a woman of Greek descent marries a non-Greek she is considered a non-Greek... but the Good new is that you can live there for 6 months and she regains her status when she returns... and after 1 year you can apply
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 05:53 PM
The question really is were you born on the base or base hospital. Because if you were then you are an American Citizen. Your birth certificate does it indicate that you are an American?
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 05:56 PM
Wow!! Good stuff!!
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 05:57 PM
You still would have to prove by documentation that he is your father, and that he was born in Greece. Name change is probably not going to be enough.
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 05:58 PM
But it has been a while I hope that you have succeeded in your endeavors and can educate us on how it went!
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 06:08 PM
These post are so old hopefully you all have gotten your answers already and would have been great help to share your success w/ the rest of us... hahaha really though... The original birth certificates or proof of births in the United States can be o
peacanpr
Jun 24, 2010, 06:08 PM
These post are so old hopefully you all have gotten your answers already and would have been great help to share your success w/ the rest of us... hahaha really though... The original birth certificates or proof of births in the United States can be obtain