Not sure if this is paranormal or not, but it sure is weird... I have an old doll that belonged to my biological mother, who is now deceased. I've never particularly liked it, but I keep because it's one of the only things I have of her. Anyway, a couple of times a month, the doll's head, which is vinyl, will pop in, as if someone has punched it or stepped on it. However, it does this by itself. I keep it locked up in a cupboard, and I will hear a loud pop sound, open the cupboard, and then sure enough, the doll's head is bashed in. I always just fix it and put it back in the cupboard. It last happened a week ago. I'm including a scan of the doll's face, before I fixed it again.

So what does everyone think? Do old dolls just do this? I was wondering if maybe it had something to do with humidity or barometric pressure. Even if there is an explanation for it, it's kind of creepy...

You know, I really think there is a valid explanation for this... I'll be damned if I know what it is though! I will tell you one thing however, if you see that little Chuckie hangin round your place, get rid of it!! :eek:

I watched the "Chuckie" movie, are you sleeping well , ( need a sound track of evil laughing here )


What about barometic pressure issues that can cause air pressure difference within the head.

What about tempurture changes that can cuase expanding or contracting.

What about possed evil doll that will latter axe murder you?? ( forgive me I am just having a little fun this morning)

LMAO! I am not worried about Chuckie or an axe murderer or whatever haha. Originally I was thinking temperature or barometric pressure, but still... that's weird. Are there any doll experts on the forum? Or any sites where I could post a message about this to people who collect dolls.. sheesh for all I know a bunch of old dolls do this, haha. But I am very curious. And it IS creepy.

Thanks for the responses guys. :)

It is very weird. Your FREAKING ME OUT. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Thanks to you I am going to have nightmares of the Freaky doll. LOL. Well you know what yes it is very weird. I am into paranormal stuff maybe it is your mom is saying hello to you from the other side and that it is a sign that she is always around you.

I am into paranormal stuff maybe it is your mom is saying hello to you from the other side and that it is a sign that she is always around you.

You know Jesushelper, I've thought that too, but it scares me LOL so I try to put it in the back of my mind. You see, my mom bought the doll as a present for herself after she found out she couldn't have anymore children. I was about 2 years old at the time. She had just had a miscarriage and the doctor told her she needed a hysterectomy, can't rememeber why, but it could have been really severe PID. Anyway afterwards she was really depressed about losing the baby and everything and bought the doll. She used to keep it in a crib and hold it like a real baby, talk to it, etc. She never let me touch it. Actually I was jealous of it as a little kid and creeped out by it as I got older.

Anyway the really creepy thing that I've tried to avoid thinking about haha, is that the doll only started doing this maybe about 4 months ago... it's recent. And well, I'm also recently PREGNANT. I'm due in June. Get the connection?? Errr... creepy!

Yes, get the connection. Imagine.

Well, I guess I'm going to do some online research and see if I can find a little more info about older dolls... and hopefully communicate with a doll expert. I'll let you guys know what happens!

I do not think it has anything to do with the barometric pressure, which would be the same as if you had watched Lilo & Stitch a Walt Disney movie, Lilo fed Pudge the fish that lived in the ocean peanut and butter sandwiched because Pudge the fish controlled the weather.

I do not know what to tell you but it is kind of creepy. It is funny because I do not believe in the paranormal but there are times I small my grand fathers after shave and cologne in my home late at night. Maybe you have something there; I would just think it as she is saying hello, just checking in. (O:

Yeah I think in a way, the barometric pressure / temperature thing is a stretch too, but what else could it be?? Errr creepy haha.


I do not think it has anything to do with the barometric pressure, which would be the same as if you had watched Lilo & Stitch a Walt Disney movie, Lilo fed Pudge the fish that lived in the ocean peanut and butter sandwiched because Pudge the fish controlled the weather.


OMG I absolutely LOVE Lilo and Stitch!! I think it's my favorite Disney animated movie EVER! It's so wonderful, better than The Lion King even, which used to be my favorite. Guess maybe I relate to Lilo and her sister since I grew up in foster care and was away from my parents a lot of the time.

Yeah I think in a way, the barometric pressure / temperature thing is a stretch too, but what else could it be??? Errr creepy haha.



OMG I absolutely LOVE Lilo and Stitch!!! I think it's my favorite Disney animated movie EVER! It's so wonderful, better than The Lion King even, which used to be my favorite. Guess maybe I relate to Lilo and her sister since I grew up in foster care and was away from my parents a lot of the time.


Stich is or dog Miss Piggy as she runs around the house and gets into every thing no stop, Lilo put the flower on stich and he clams down and we laugh every time and say it is miss piggy, when we rub her tummy to clam the beast ripping the house apart, she has gotten better, lol, as long as there are no buttons on the furniture we are fine, only issue she has, not bad for a rescued dog, thank god the couch was old and in need of replacing, she seems to like the new couch better anyway.

Let us know what the doll experts say. Good luck! :}

Well if you do look at it from a paranormal view. I have heard that inanimate objects can absorb psychic energy from people who use to own them. Which in turn can cause some weird and bizarre things to happen with these objects. Especially toys. Toys turning on automatically or a doll not in the same place you left it before. Just any little thing that would make you stop and go hmmmmm... But of course that is what I have read from paranormal investigators. But its still creepy all the same. You don't normally see a dolls face cave in on itself on its own. That's what makes me a little freaked out.

Thanks bizygurl, that's interesting information. Actually it reminds me a little of the clown doll in Poltergeist... yikes!!

I know this is a little old, but I am dying to know if the doll is still doing this since you have had the baby.. or if you found out any information.. I have chills all over my body from looking at that picture and after reading the significance of the doll to your Mom. Please update

Interesting experience. I don't think that your mom would worry you by causing the doll to do those things. Perhaps it's the atmospheric pressure.

Hey Amy and everyone... sorry I haven't been online much lately. I am very busy now with the baby and here in northern Canada we only have about 3 months of warm weather, so we are outside most of the time.

Anyway, to answer your question... shortly after I posted this, I had my husband lock the doll up in the garage because it was freaking me out, and since I was getting close to having my baby I didn't want anything disturbing me. Then today out of curiosity and having noticed this thread again, I went out to the garage to look at it... it's head had sunken in again. Creeepy. I never did hear from any online doll experts, so... what I've decided to do is, take it to this doll museum just outside of town, and ask the lady there what she thinks. We'll probably take it out there this weekend.

If the doll museum doesn't have an explanation for us, then I'm going to take it to a friend of a friend who is a medium. Not sure I really believe in that stuff, but she is an honorable person so I will be interested in what she has to say about it. I will update you guys again after the weekend.

Well, we went to the doll collector, and she was not sure about the sunken in face. She hasn't had that happen with any of her old vinyl dolls, at least not spontaneously. She says it's only happened if someone has stepped on or otherwise tampered with the doll. She thought my theory about humidity and/or barometric pressure was plausible, but she also has a belief in the supernatural, so... she thinks we should go to the medium. She's also curious about why the doll does this, and wants us to keep in touch, haha.

So to make a long story short, I'm taking the doll to this medium I know of. I'm not going to tell her why, or what the doll does, just see what she says about it in general. I'm not sure when that's going to be, but I'll update everyone again after I've seen her.

Chava,

When you see a medium. Do not tell her what you think it is. Do not tell her any story behind the doll. Just tell her about the sunken face and see what she comes up with. Yes, that would be great. Keep all of us in touch.

Joe

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Please, the story is very interesting! Its been to long, its such a cliff-hanger!

Hi Orange,
From a paranormal perspective I would say that a spirit is doing this. The expansion and contraction of things is one of the key signs that an earthbound spirit is about. Other key signs could be when your ceiling creak just when you have gone to bed or a bad smell drift past also cold chills like someone just walked over your grave is another sign.
Goodluck with it
Homecoming

Well I had dolls like that before I had a rock doll and I hate them now my brother used to put it on the top of the stairs to scare me bloody hell it did as well but once I was in my mums bedroom where the rock doll is and we have a old music box and that went off on its own I was like what the... and then I looked at the doll but the doll wasn't there and I went out of the room and the doll was standing by the door I went to tell my brother if like he put it rhere or not and I realized he went out about 6pm and now was 7pm and I asked my mum who was the only on in the house but she was in there bath no one believed me but still scares me cause that doll is still in my mums room probably watching me every time I go in there but I think I got ova my fear I just spary perfume on its eyes the last time I looked at the doll which was a yr ago lol. Some dolls are spooky specially if there old.

The doll pulled a knife on the medium, took her cell phone and called Chuckie. Chuckie arrived in a jeep he car jacked from G I Joe and picked up the doll and now they are on a five state crime spree in the mid west. Stay tuned to you local networks for further breaking news stories. If you see these dolls in your area, do not approch as they are armed and dangerous!

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Please, the story is very interesting! Its been to long, its such a cliff-hanger!

Sorry about that! The reason there are no new posts is because I haven't had a chance to go to the medium yet... I have a 6 week old baby plus 2 other little kids, and I just hurt my back, etc, so the doll is not high on my list of priorities right now, unfortunately! I do promise to report back here though as soon as I've seen the medium.

Chava, have you ever left the face sunken in and seen if it pops back out on it's own? Just curious

Hmmm... no I haven't Stormy. But I could try it as an experiment I guess and get back to you. The doll is in the garage again, and I'm sure the face has sunken in again. Maybe I'll take it out and see what happens. I'm creeped out by it and don't like it in the house anymore, but maybe I can put it in the porch.

I would just leave it out in the garage, keep it away. So you do not get freaked out. Better sanity then insanity especially being so busy with all of the kids.

Joe

Bingo,
Its your mother visiting because of the soon and now new arrival of your baby. When a baby is born it sends a shock wave through heaven and we almost always have a family member from heaven come to us a few months before the birth and stay around for up to 3yrs after the birth. She could have volunteered to be the child's spirit guide. She is changing the doll as it is something between the two of you. She thinks you will know its her and not someone else. Are you smelling perfume around? Or warm glows of energy?
I suggest you bring the doll back out and into the kitchen, who knows she might wash the dishers for you he he
Homecoming

Just changing a few diapers would be nice.

Trust me it was. Still nothing happened since then so I'm alrite, I guess

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Please, the story is very interesting! Its been to long, its such a cliff-hanger!

Sorry about that! The reason there are no new posts is because I haven't had a chance to go to the medium yet... I have a 6 week old baby plus 2 other little kids, and I just hurt my back, etc, so the doll is not high on my list of priorities right now, unfortunately! I do promise to report back here though as soon as I've seen the medium.

Augh! Sorry! That's completely understandable, and I hope your back gets better soon :) Was a very interesting story though, so keeping posted would be great, cheers :)

-Chris.

The medium is actually going to come over for dinner in a few days. Usually she doesn't come to the people who require her services... they go to her... but since she is a friend of a friend and considering how busy I am, I was able to lure her over with the promise of food, haha. I'll let you all know what happens after she's been here.

Orange, a question!

What would your feelings be if you found out the doll was haunted?

And would you feel at all disapointed is you found out it wasn't?

I was just wondering, because I know personally if someone said something of mine was haunted, id be a little bit scared :D

Well I am freaked out about it right now already, without knowing for sure!!

If the medium says it's not haunted, I may not believe her... because I know I've felt very weird and creeped out by it and I can't believe that it's all in my head. Usually when I have a feeling about something there is a bit of truth to my feelings. Although she is a very well-respected medium. I'm hoping if she doesn't think it's haunted that she will at least give me some explanation.

If she does think it's haunted but not harmful, it's going to remain locked up in the garage. If she thinks it IS harmful, we're going to get rid of it. My husband said we should sell it on Ebay. Any takers? :p

If we get rid of it and it's "energy" or whatever, transfers to something else in the house... well, I'm not sure what we'll do. Probably have the medium back to try and banish the spirit or whatever.

Yes, but what if that spirit is your ma. Do you really want to banish a family member?

What if it is the spirit of your ma. Do you really want to banish a family member?

Ugh yeah that's true, too. It will depend on who the spirit is, of course. Although if it's my mother, maybe the medium can help her move on.

Orange,
You have me hanging on the cliffs edge, what did the medium sugest with regards to your doll?
Homecoming

Sorry about that. She ended up not coming due to illness, and we haven't had her back yet, as life has been extremely busy around here. I have 6 children in the house right now and they have been taking up most of our time and energy. So, we still don't have an answer.

That is good. The energy is better spent with the children anyway. I hope you have kept it hidden and put away. (; Then you will not need to have that feeling of somebody watching you.

Joe

Hopefully I am not giving the HEEBEEE JEEBEEES!

I would assume you are on the right track with your inquiry into barometric pressure. I would believe it to be a combination of the dolls age, barometric pressure and temperature fluctuations.
Given that the face appears to be made of some sort of vinyl or plastic material, if it is of any real relative age, it is probably undergoing a good bit of largely unnoticed chemical decomposition. Much of the air in the head has likely been largely replaced by the off-gassing of the sythetic materials used.
The volume of a gas is generally far more reactive to changes in temperature than that of both solids and liquids. Temperature change is probably instigating a change in density, creating something of a vacuum, assuming that the head is relatively air-tight. These temperature changes may also be slightly altering atmsopheric pressure outside the doll; coupled with the aforementioned effect, exerting enough pressure to cause the head of the doll to conform roughly to the increased density of the gaseous mass within, rather than the gas more typically exerting pressure on the shape of the doll's head.
Just a theory. I do believe in the paranormal or metaphysical as well, attempting to maintain a strong balance between the two. Personally, I'll buy either hypothesis. :)

Well I guess I have a bit of an update for you guys... nothing from the medium, but it's still interesting and a bit spooky. I decided a few days ago that I didn't want the doll around at all, so I gave it a friend of mine to keep for a while. Sooo, not sure if it's just nerves or whatever, but she and her boyfriend swear it has fallen off the shelf where they're keeping it several times on its own. The face has also sunken in, as usual. My friend's boyfriend now wants to play amateur ghost hunter and set up a camera in the room to see what happens. :eek: Honestly I hope nothing is recorded, because that would freak me out even more!

Anyway, thus the saga continues... ;)

My guess is that the elastic properties of the head have changed over the years (through boys pushing the face in, or sunshine or whatever) and now the dolls head's natural position is with the face in, a bit like a spring, when you push it back out it is only temporary and gradually it moves back in. Can you hear a hissing noise if you squeeze the head, that'l tell you if it's airtight and therefore caused by trapped gas :)

As for falling off the shelf - definitely ghosts:D (not)

Has anyone ever seen the horror movie "Dolls"... :)

I've been following along with this story-and it just stops! Orange, did your friends boyfriend record anything? Any new news? Your story fascinates me!

Maybe your mom is just trying to talk to you through her doll - after all, you do have three children & she wasn't able to have any more. Maybe she's jealous of you the way you were jealous of the doll when you were little? Or perhaps, since the doll is one of the only things of hers that you have, this is just her way of letting you know that she's around and is watching over you & your children - maybe treating them like the children she never had. :confused:

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your patience! Things have been pretty hectic around here, so I haven't had much time to be on the site and update you all.

My friend's boyfriend did film the doll, and the video shows the head popping in by itself, and the doll then falling down from the shelf. It doesn't show any other phenomena, like orbs or spectres or whatever. It's possible that the popping head causes the doll to fall off, so it still could be totally a physical phenomena.

However, the medium I mentioned earlier did go to examine the doll at my friend's place. We didn't tell her anything about it, we didn't even mention that it was my mother's. After examining it she called me and wants to meet with me. She believes that there is a baby attached to the doll, possibly a baby my mother had which didn't survive. So, a sibling of mine I never knew I had. I then recalled that my mother had 2 miscarriages, and after the second one she bought the doll to "comfort" herself because she couldn't have anymore children. She treated the doll like a real baby. I was about 4 at the time.

If it's true that a baby brother or sister of mine is attached to the doll, the medium thinks that we need to "help" this baby find my mother, if that makes any sense. The medium didn't know that I just had a baby myself, but I told her afterwards, and she thinks my pregnancy is related to the spirit appearing. She also thinks my mother is not at rest, although she's not specifically attached to the doll the way the baby spirit is. Anyway, I'm still not sure what I believe about all this, but I am willing to meet with the medium and help the baby "cross over" or whatever, if that's what needs to happen for this to stop.

We haven't met yet, and I'm not sure when we will, as recent family events have been really upsetting for me and my family, and we are dealing with that right now. I'm not sure we can handle anything more at this time. But I do want to get it resolved in the next few weeks or so if it's possible.

Anyway hope this update is somewhat satisfying to everyone who's following this thread. I'll come back here again when I have more to add.

OK, that's it, You have completely freaked me out this time! There are only two things that freak me out: evil clowns and baby spirits. I am going to the nearest Chatholic church right now and get some counseling. Thanks Orange!

Yea, that doll gives me the heebie jeebies. What is strangely familiar about this whole story, Orange, is that my mother passed away when I was 12 years old, and she actually collected dolls of all types, including some rather creepy looking ones. My grandma just the other day asked me after all of this time, if I would like to have the collection now, and although part of me wants to scream, "NO WAY, those dolls have always given me the creeps!" I will probably take the gift graciously. I love my mother, and there are few things I have to remind me of her, but just in case, I think I will store them in a safe place :)

If you were really creeped out Cgirl, you could always donate the dolls to a doll museum, and request a plaque dedicated in your mother's honour to accompany them. I am considering this for my mother's doll, as even if we resolve this issue, I'm not sure I want it back in my home.

That is a very good idea, Chava! Thank you for suggesting that. Yea, I am not sure what I will do yet, but my husband doesn't like dolls either... they give him the creeps (he won't even let me keep my ragedy ann doll in plain sight!) Him and I are just a couple of scaredy cats :)

Holy Cow that IS creepy! I started getting goose bumps just reading it! And then saw the picture and really got freaked out! There is a saying that goes, " if you think it is, then it is." I say, if its going to cost you money to find out, don't waste it, just believe that it is. If its not going to hurt you, let it be. How creepy, especially because of the correlation of it starting and you being pregnant!

Wow. I'm 15. I just read all six pages of those posts. That story is amazing...

How are you going to go about "putting the baby's spirit at rest"?

I say you duct tape that medium to a bed, and sit on her face until she admits she's not a medium. Unless she really is. Then appologise and graciously give her coat to her and show her the way out (from embarrassment of course).

Maybe you should try to put a cross around it and see if it still happens. If it does it shouldn't be anything spiritual cause a cross should repel the spirit.

Weird that your mom would never tell you about your dead brother or siste. I could see how the baby may be attached to the doll

Hey orange, anything new with that doll? Strange, it's been almost a year since everyone was talking about it!

Dear Orange,

I read your post... GET RID OF THIS DOLL Immediately... most of the evil entities they haunt dolls... when you plan to get rid of it do not mention that in the house do it all of a sudden and get someone to help you... better if you burn it... Be careful while doing it..

Take care of yourself...

Ms. Redrose


Not sure if this is paranormal or not, but it sure is weird... I have an old doll that belonged to my biological mother, who is now deceased. I've never particularly liked it, but I keep because it's one of the only things I have of her. Anyways, a couple of times a month, the doll's head, which is vinyl, will pop in, as if someone has punched it or stepped on it. However, it does this by itself. I keep it locked up in a cupboard, and I will hear a loud pop sound, open the cupboard, and then sure enough, the doll's head is bashed in. I always just fix it and put it back in the cupboard. It last happened a week ago. I'm including a scan of the doll's face, before I fixed it again.

So what does everyone think? Do old dolls just do this? I was wondering if maybe it had something to do with humidity or barometric pressure. Even if there is an explanation for it, it's kinda creepy...

You say this was your mother's doll?
Hmmm do you know who got it for her or if she was close to this doll because sometimes an occurrence like this can happen if there is bad memories surrounding an object.
For example: a young girl is raped by her uncle who buys her a doll after and this doll always brings back memories but she loves the doll it's self. Many many many years later the girl dies of... natural causes and the dolls face begins to implode.