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paynter167
Feb 8, 2006, 08:17 AM
What can I do to get my 14 year old daughter out of my house if she refuses to listen to me and I feel as though I will cause her bodily harm
CaptainForest
Feb 8, 2006, 09:59 AM
Try and work it out. Want to know how to destroy your relationship with your daughter? Kick her out at 14.
That being said…
Call your local Department of Child and Family Services (or some other equivalent name to that). Give your child up for adoption. She will be placed in foster care. She might then get adopted (but at 14, I seriously doubt it).
If you stick her in foster care, she might turn to drugs or booze or something else since the supervision would probably be a lot less then you would administer at home.
Another suggestion. Send her to boot camp. I'm sure they must have one for girls.
JoeCanada76
Feb 8, 2006, 10:18 AM
You know what YOU ARE SICK. You posted about your daughter being pregnant and now you are talking about forcing her out or you are going to hurt her. YOU ARE SICK. You know what somebody needs to call the cops on you and knock some sense in you. You know what people like you piss me off. Why are you here? Your daughter needs parents and needs parents who are supportive no matter what she does. If you think you are going to lay your stupid hands on your daughter you need to turn yourself in. I may be talking strong but you need to get a grip. Think about what is important. Joe
You can not force your daughter to give up her own baby, you can not force her to abort a baby. She wants to keep her baby and you need to be a real parent so get off your high horse and become a real parent without forcing anything on your daughter.
CaptainForest
Feb 8, 2006, 10:26 AM
Jesushelper76 disagrees: You can not send somebody to boot camp that is pregnant.
What??
The poster never said her child was pregnant. Just that it is a 14 year old.
I think you are mixing up the posts. The pregnant post is a different post.
lilfyre
Feb 8, 2006, 10:28 AM
This was misleading and this makes me mad I removed my answer to the post. Here in this post you are no longer misleadparents right to force minor to give baby for adoption (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=86953#post86953) You know that there is always two sides to a story,each person having a side. I have never seen two stories from one person
CaptainForest
Feb 8, 2006, 10:28 AM
Oh, my bad.
I didn't realize that this poster was the same as the pregnant poster.
In which case, I wish to re-post my answer and shame on the poster paynter167 for not mentioning here that her child is pregnant.
I take back everything AND I say, shame on you paynter167. You want to cause your daughter bodily harm because she refusses to give up her child??
God, that is sad. I think in your daughter's best interest, she should leave so as to not be exposed to you anymore.
JoeCanada76
Feb 8, 2006, 10:48 AM
Now you understand why I reacted the way I did.
lilfyre
Feb 8, 2006, 10:50 AM
Now you understand why I reacted the way I did.
I do I do I do, can not rate you I am out a normal for me, well put
talaniman
Feb 8, 2006, 10:50 AM
I wondered how you could upset a cool level headed person like Jesushelper until I went back and checked your other thread about your daughter 14 being pregnant.The way you wrote this post you left out just enough facts to keep people from seeing you for the uncaring person that you are,and sir that is intentionally misleading and leaves the true matters of your problem out. This makes you a liar,a fraud,and a lousy parent. What kind of person would want to physically abuse a child ,a pregnant one at that.I know that her pregnancy came as a shock and dissapointment ,but this is no way to handle this situation.This little girl needs the love and support of her family and counceling and parenting class and a lot of things you should be providing.You also should seek help with a counselor and obviously parenting classes may help,as well as anger management.Your family needs a lot of help so instead of trying to con us get help for your famoly to deal with the birth of your grandchild!:cool: :mad:
CaptainForest
Feb 8, 2006, 10:55 AM
Now you understand why I reacted the way I did.
Yes. I do.
I don't always look at who the poster is, I rather just answer the question.
And in this case, I didn't realize that the same person posted those 2 posts.
bizygurl
Feb 8, 2006, 12:01 PM
You should be thrown in jail for even thinking about hurting your pregnant 14 year old daughter. What is the matter with you?? I understand that something like this can be traumatic on any family but hurting your child who is carrying your grandchild is sick.
Do you relaize what you just admitted to us on this forum? You want to harm your own child? You need to go seek help right away. Check yourself into a clinic, and I hope that someone out there who knows you or your daughter somehow knows what your intentions are and gets your daughter out of your home. You better get a grip on this and fast before you get your a-- thrown in jail. Maybe it'll do you some good. My god that's sick!
nwsflash
Feb 8, 2006, 01:02 PM
Guys I think this is another "HOAXER" lets not feed them EH??
And if you are true, you need to seek major help because you have a lot of issue's from your posts that I've read...
paynter167 I hope you know that there are ways for ADMIN etc to see IP address... You should be reported and have your child removed for there safety... Remeber you made a choice to have a child, a child does not make a CHOICE to be born... You should be reported to your local law enforcement I'm sure they would have ways to deal with you.
CHILD ABUSE IS A CRIME.....
Fr_Chuck
Feb 8, 2006, 01:14 PM
First I hope admin don't ban me for what I want to say.
If I could call fire and damnation on anyone I have heard from on this board it would be for such action.
Next I do hope this girl does find somewhere else to live, she deserves much better than you to live with.
First this is your daughter, OK, she messed up but she is doing what she believes is best. Keeping a child at 14 is hard and yes her family will have to help a lot. But she has that right to try.
Best bet for her is to find a LOVING family member to go stay with.
And honestly I am not sure being in the child welfare system could not be more loving than what I have heard on here.
If this poor girl needs to discuss her problems I would be glad to hear from her.
bizygurl
Feb 8, 2006, 02:37 PM
Guys I think this is another "HOAXER" lets not feed them EH ????
And if you are true, you need to seek major help because you have alot of issue's from your posts that i've read....
paynter167 I hope you know that there are ways for ADMIN ect to see IP address....You should be reported and have your child removed for there safty...Remeber you made a choice to have a child, a child does not make a CHOICE to be born......You should be reported to your local law enforcement I'm sure they would have ways to deal with you.
I think your right, it may be a hoaxer, and Im hoping it is. But even so its still sick to even come on here and lie about something like that and it isn't funny. I hope I don't get banned either for what I said, but it had to be said. Im just very disgusted by this person hoax or no hoax.
paynter167
Feb 8, 2006, 03:22 PM
Well I got my answer people I talked to a laywer and in nj the parent has the RIGHT to put the baby up for adoption if the child is a minor but not the right to force her to have an abortion.so if anyone wants a baby this one will surely be up for adoption
Fr_Chuck
Feb 8, 2006, 03:43 PM
You should have done that choice 14 years ago and this poor girl in your home would not have that problem now.
If you want a good Christian home for a child, we can always find one though our church.
nwsflash
Feb 8, 2006, 03:55 PM
so if anyone wants a baby this one will surely be up for adoption
:mad: trying to flog your grand-child on here.
talaniman
Feb 8, 2006, 09:38 PM
Your life must be so sad that you would have no mercy or feelings for your own blood,I wonder how your wife feels about all this or do you keep her under your tight control,do you beat her if she doen't behave or has she learned to do as she's told already, :cool:
bizygurl
Feb 9, 2006, 04:52 AM
Don't you have any compassion for your child and your grandchild? In your last post you sound as if your advertising to give away a puppy. This is a human being and the way you posted there is sick. Wow Im just blown away by your heartlessness and your bitterness to this situation. I can understand that this wasn't what you want for your daughter, but you blew your credibility as a parent when you said you wanted to cause "bodily harm" to her. That in my mine shows that you don't know what's best for her. Im just shocked by your attitude towards this.
paynter167
Feb 9, 2006, 06:17 AM
I didn't realize that this was a right to life web site.I just wanted some legal advice
bizygurl
Feb 9, 2006, 06:37 AM
No one is saying it is. And no one is saying that your daughter should keep the baby or have an abortion either way. We are addressing your attitude as a parent about this whole situation. Why don't you go back and re read the last two posts you wrote, come back and tell us if we were right in reacting to your posts the way we did.
You came here looking for legal advice and that's fine, but in the midst of that you also said "what can i do to get my fourteen year old out of my house if she refuses to listen to me and I feel as though I will cause her bodily harm" Can you explain that? Can you blame us for the reaction that we had.
Now if what you said you didn't mean and were just upset and ranting then I understand, but after all the posts you still won't address that and that looks to us that you meant it.
You need to be careful on what you say because if you were to say that in a room full of strangers It would be our job to call the police on you, because your admitting to wanting to hurt your child. I hope you know the seriousness of that, or maybe you do and don't care.
Fr_Chuck
Feb 9, 2006, 08:16 AM
Abortion is a legal choice but I am pro life and it is a bad choice.
What we are trying to give you is "good" advice, just because something is legal does not mean it is right.
What you will do is destroy any relationship you and this child ever had, Most likely after the adoption and this girl is legal age, she will do everything in her power to find ths baby and perhaps ruin a very good adoption.
If you and your wife are not loving enough to keep the baby, and it appears you are not, best would be to find a close relation that would be, then your daughter will still be part of the babies life and perhaps can be the mother when she is older.
In my wildest dream I can not image anyone sounding as unloving and heartless as you do in these posts.
nwsflash
Feb 9, 2006, 09:50 AM
i didnt realize that this was a right to life web site.i just wanted some legal advice
Nobody said it is!! I'm just :mad: that you could even think of hitting your own flesh and blood whilst there carrying a baby... Then again I forgot you HOLD no VALUE to your daughters our Grandchilds life.:mad:
Just remember what ever action you take, you and your family will have to live with it for the rest of your life... :confused:
From what you have been posting, your daughter is very young and will be effected by this for her life, but you are just making things ten times worse for her... How do you think she will feel if you make her KILL her own baby?? How do you think she will feel if you make her give the child up??
talaniman
Feb 9, 2006, 05:50 PM
i didnt realize that this was a right to life web site.i just wanted some legal advice
What you do today with your pregnant daughter will have some far reaching consequences down the road.As a father and grandfather who loves his kids and grand kids to death I cannot imagine giving them anything but love,and the best of my attention. Even when my daughter was 13-14 and she was smelling herself I made sure she knew she could come to me for anything and if she talked I listened.I didn't agree most of the time but I learned if I kept my cool and kept the lines of communication open she usually went along with my program.The key with kids is not harsh discipline an threats and physical abuse ,but a very early bond that is made stronger with time and trust.You sound like a very hard man and I can only suggest that you will regret running your love ones out of your life.Oh, if you need legal advice get a lawyer!:cool:
Have you tried going to a crisis pregnancy center or something along that line to see if they could help you in explaining your concerns to your daughter. Sometimes it helps just to hear a viewpoint explained in a different manner and by someone not related to the situation. Reading into your post (and I could be very wrong) it seems that you have had a continuing problem with your daughter listening to you and your wife's viewpoints, because I'm sure you weren't advising her to have sexual relations at age 14. I feel for you and your wife and hope things work out satisfactorily for all parties involved. I do agree with your daughter abortion is out of the question.
Myth
Mar 18, 2006, 11:09 PM
Most teens don't just go out and have sex. Oh I know some do. But I seriously doubt that this one did. She was looking for someone to care for her to hold her when she needed to cry to laugh at the funny things in life. It sounds that this child made a conscious decision to find that someone because it obviously wasn't at home. My guess is that she decided to be with her boyfriend to fill a void that her parents neglected and her parents should feel shamed... I would take this child in in a heartbeat if I could. Pregnant or not. She needs love not someone to damn her. She needs support in her choices not someone to constantly tell her she's wrong... that's what she needed in the first place and what both of her parents lacked. If I could I would take this child in and love her as one of my own and her own parents be damned. I can only hope that the one who judges you in the end will judge you as harshly as you have just judged your daughter. If you wish to blame someone blame yourselves for being so neglectful to her and her needs. You failed as parents.
fairy-dust
May 25, 2006, 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by paynter167
So if anyone wants a baby this one will surely be up for adoption
I can't believe what you just said arrrrrggghhhhhhh I need to go for a brew and a walk before I said something I would get banned for
CaptainForest
May 25, 2006, 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by paynter167
so if anyone wants a baby this one will surely be up for adoption
i can't belive what you just said arrrrrggghhhhhhh i need to go for a brew and a walk b4 i said somthing i would get banned for
fairy-dust,
I don't quite follow your logic on this one.
The father of this daughter obviouslly didn't want this baby around, so odds it would go up for adoption if born, would be high.
Of course, the daughter wanted to keep it, so who knows what happened.
Jbear
May 26, 2006, 04:05 AM
well i got my answer people i talked to a laywer and in nj the parent has the RIGHT to put the baby up for adoption if the child is a minor but not the right to force her to have an abortion.so if anyone wants a baby this one will surely be up for adoption
It's odd but I was reading yesterday that in NJ a pregnant minor or a minor who has already had a child is emancipated... meaning she can live on her own and make her own decisions about herself and her baby. She can also get a restraining order against an abusive family member.
Krs
May 26, 2006, 04:15 AM
You can not force your daughter to give up her own baby, you can not force her to abort a baby. She wants to keep her baby and you need to be a real parent so get off your high horse and become a real parent without forcing anything on your daughter.
Exactly... no matter the daughters age.. at the end of the day she is carrying her OWN baby not the mothers baby..
HOW SELFISH..
SELFISH LOVE...
don8
Mar 15, 2007, 11:13 AM
WOW! I really hope that she either leaves your home before it is to late or does decide to give the baby up for adoption because God knows you do not need to be an influence on ANY other child! Any one who could even think about doing the things that you say you are thinking about definitely don't need to be around children.
ATYOURSERVICE
Mar 19, 2007, 11:54 AM
A minor is your responsibility until the age of 18, sorry. You will open a can of worms with Children Services. They have to have cause to remove your child. Not because you want them to.
zelda
Mar 31, 2007, 04:39 PM
How could you hurt your daughter... im not going to insult you like everyone else did because its up to you how you discipline. But I want a girl more than anything. For all these people that harm there children don't deserve to have their girls when I could have one that I would never attempt to harm