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jwatt88
Mar 11, 2008, 10:51 AM
I'm trying to apply for an internship and the company says on its application that it will review a CORI check. Currently I'm on probation for a drug charge, but the judge told me that I would get a cwaf (continuation without a fine) meaning that I wouldn't have to put my criminal record for job applications and it would only come up if I were to get in trouble again with the law.

My question is if the company would find that I am under probation and the charge, since I wasn't actually convicted of the crime. Also, do you think it would completely ruin my chances of getting the job (it's for the commonwealth of massachusetts)?

Thanks for any help.

JudyKayTee
Mar 11, 2008, 12:56 PM
I'm trying to apply for an internship and the company says on its application that it will review a CORI check. Currently I'm on probation for a drug charge, but the judge told me that i would get a cwaf (continuation without a fine) meaning that I wouldn't have to put my criminal record for job applications and it would only come up if I were to get in trouble again with the law.

My question is if the company would find that I am under probation and the charge, since I wasn't actually convicted of the crime. Also, do you think it would completely ruin my chances of getting the job (it's for the commonwealth of massachusetts)?

Thanks for any help.


If you are on probation you either entered into a plea deal (with a guilty plea or a no contest) or were found guilty - I don't understand why that wouldn't appear on a permanent record. It's not like this is some youthful offender, keep your nose clean matter, with an adjournment in contemplation of dismissal. This is real, live probation.

I took a quick look at the CORI site and it would appear until the matter is closed that, yes, it would appear on your record. A lot of this depends on the State (I believe).

Curious to see what others think -

(And whether you'll get the job depends on the job, the requirements, what the employer wants to do. One of the sites said CORI is particularly important if unsupervised work with children is involved.)

jwatt88
Mar 11, 2008, 01:07 PM
I'm on probation because I took a plea deal so that I would not get a conviction, and the deal included a cwaf, which said that it only appears on record when matters of law are taken into account, such as if I got another drug charge.

And this is a job with the Massachusetts state highway, no kids involded.

JudyKayTee
Mar 11, 2008, 01:46 PM
In my area I THINK - and I don't do a lot of criminal work - a plea deal is a conviction. Someone out there knows - I hope.

excon
Mar 12, 2008, 06:02 AM
Hello j:

I think you misunderstood the judge. I don't know how you plead guilty to avoid a conviction.

I know how you can plead guilty to a misdemeanor in order to avoid being convicted of a felony, but when you plead guilty, THAT is a conviction.

Now, you may be under some special thing (CORI) that I've never heard of, that might at some time in the future, act to "expunge" your record, but I doubt very seriously whether that's done WHILE your on probation.

Second. You've also got this thing called "continuation without fine", that I've never heard of, but those words don't indicate that you won't have a record. Those words indicate that you won't be fined. I don't know. What am I missing here.

excon

JudyKayTee
Mar 12, 2008, 06:03 AM
[QUOTE=excon]Hello j:

I think you misunderstood the judge. I don't know how you plead guilty to avoid a conviction.

I know how you can plead guilty to a misdemeanor in order to avoid being convicted of a felony, but when you plead guilty, THAT is a conviction.

Now, you may be under some special thing (CORI) that I've never heard of, that might at some time in the future, act to "expunge" your record, but I doubt very seriously whether that's done WHILE your on probation.

Second. You've also got this thing called "continuation without fine", that I've never heard of, but those words don't indicate that you won't have a record. Those words indicate that you won't be fined. I don't know. What am I missing here.



To answer you question I think we're missing about half of the story -