:confused: December 21, 2012 and the Mayan calendar? I wasn't sure where else to post this, but I figured religion would be best. So do you really think it is going to happen?

Yes Dec. 21, 2012 WILL happen but the Mayans never claimed it would be the end of the world.
Many people speculate that it will be the end of something and the beginning of something radically different --good OR bad?

Think about it the next President will be really bad WHOEVER it is and their term will be about up at the end of 2012 and we WILL be ready for a change and I think the whole world will be wanting to see something happen for a change.

What I've read about it explains how the planets will align and the world will go crazy. They suspect there will be floods, earth quakes, volcanic erruptions, tornados, hurricanes etc etc... and some scientists believe only 1 million people will survive. I'm trying to find that website I read that from so I could post it, but I can't find it now.

I don't think that will happen all in one day but that is basically when it will all start getting worse.
Much of it is predicted in the Bible --Revelations

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/what-do-you-think-conspiracy-theory-187385.html?highlight=end+times

And
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/government/north-america-union-vchip-truth-179345.html

I think it will be an average day. Maybe Hillary, Obama or McCain will sign whatever to make the New World Order official or something. I think the time will have more significance in retrospect.

One belief is that on that day (12/21/12) the world will be moving into a higher plane of existence. The christians call it the armageddon, where some people just disappear leaving the rest to wonder what happened. Most likely if people dissappeared like that (mind you this is on a large scale-worldwide) the panic and mayhem would resemble the armageddon. All it means though, is those who have learned the lessons they needed to of this plane move on to the next one.
If this interests you, I would recommend learning about the chakaras.

What I've read about it explains how the planets will align and the world will go crazy. They suspect there will be floods, earth quakes, volcanic erruptions, tornados, hurricanes etc etc... and some scientists believe only 1 million people will survive. I'm trying to find that website I read that from so I could post it, but I can't find it now.
Don't believe everything you read.

It is true that people can learn a lot about chakras, the lost civilization of the maya seem to have vibrated their cells in such a way, that they became invisible and disappeared from this plane.

To come back to the 21.12.2012 date it will be the start of the big change of earth and people.
There is nothing to be afraid of actually it is something to celebrate! There will come an electromagnetic pulse, a vibration that comes from the center of our milkyway which exists out of X-rays, which our scientists call the black hole. This pulse from electromagnetic energy is not polar and means that there will be a strong decrease in our electirc and magnetic energy fields and if this is happening you'll get what you call Zero Point. (zeropoint of energy)
On the exact moment of balance of polarity there will be a portal. From this portal flows energy to earth from the etheric dimensions. This energy will mute your dna and that causes sudden movements in our energyfield. For some of us it will put on your crystal lightbody and that will be the beginning of the ascention process.

Ascention means that you will bring your body with you to the other dimension.
Like a caterpillar makes his cocon and comes out as a butterfly in that way we will appear as a lightbeing. Of course there will be needed some way of consciousness to let your ascention take place. The key to this is the permission to let it take place in a natural way.
You can not force the process. If you let the cosmic events take place in a natural way you will stop fighting and resisting changes. The difficulties will solve, only when you fight against the process you will suffer pain and uneasyness.

Thus 3 major events will take place starting with 2012 for the connection (or activation), then in 2017 there will be the second shift of ascention, these souls will also need years to complete their ascention. In this year a comet will pass by and in 2030 nibiru will pass.
It is said that it will be somewhere between 2040 and 2050 when human will have manifested their ascention.

About 15 to 30 million souls will go through the ascention because they already activated their bodies. While ascending in vibration we won't need food anymore. Your body will not age, you won't die, unless you want to, your body will be useful and full of energy. There is another path some of us will choose, it is known as the middle path. Ascention is the path of the fifth dimension, while the fourth is the middle path.The earth will rise (ascent)from the third to the fourth and many of us will choose the fourth to go along with earth.
The amount of people who will go to the fourth will between 1 and 1.5 miljard. And the amount of souls who will stay in the third will be about 4.5 to 5 miljard. These souls which are 75 to 80% of our population, will leave the earth, by leaving their bodies here and reincarnate on other planets which are from the third dimension. Their souls are not ready to go to the fifth dimension. They can not stay on earth, because earth will soon be in the fourth.

Most of the souls who will leave earth, will go because of their low immune system (due to exotic virus and bacteria), a small percentage will go because of natural causes like earthquakes, vulcan eruptions, war violence and so on. The bacteries and virus have been on earth for thousands of years, but because of the failing of our immune system they will be able to come into our bodies.

In the coming 30 years our oceans will rise for about 6 meters. Our scientists say this is due because of global warming and they blame pollution but the main cause is electromagnetic fluctuations which influence our sun. This causes unusual strong electric storms on the sun, this energy travels to earth and dries and heat up the earth in many continents, including the poles. Of course we get problems with food and politics but then this post will be too long and Im not sure people want to read this.

There is much more to say about the coming events but sure is extremes will reach the planet.




= Take whatever is coming to you... let the beauty of it move you! =

Well if you look at my calender on the wall, it ends on Dec 31 of this year, perhaps they had just planned on making a new one in the year 2000 and did not figure they would not be around by then.

To come back to the 21.12.2012 date it will be the start of the big change of earth and ppl.
There is nothing to be afraid of actually it is something to celebrate! There will come an electromagnetic pulse, a vibration that comes from the center of our milkyway which exists out of X-rays, which our scientists call the black hole. This pulse from electromagnetic energy is not polar and means that there will be a strong decrease in our electirc and magnetic energy fields and if this is happening you'll get what you call Zero Point. (zeropoint of energy)
On the exact moment of balance of polarity there will be a portal. From this portal flows energy to earth from the etheric dimensions. This energy will mute your dna and that causes sudden movements in our energyfield. For some of us it will put on your crystal lightbody and that will be the beginning of the ascention proces.
I hope you won't be offended if I ask how you came to know all of this? Was it a direct personal revelation, was it conveyed to you by someone who received such a revelation, or is it written in a book somewhere?

You are always free to ask and I have no problems with that.
I got the information from my innernet and also from other people who receive the same messages. I also work with astrology to sometimes verify the incoming messages as proof.

I do understand that this information can be hard to accept or understand for others but this is my answer to the question; what I think is going to happen in 2012.
Ppl can either use the information or ignore it, it all depends how open they are to other views and opinions.


One peacefull world for all the boyz and girlz,
Lets get together and make our dream come true !

I got the information from my innernet Can you give us an innernet link for that info?

I got the information from my innernet and also from other ppl who receive the same messages.
Are you willing cite any publicly available sources?

I also work with astrology to sometimes verify the incoming messages as proof.
I also work with astrology, but I'm not aware of techniques that are able to "verify the incoming messages as proof". Can you describe the methods you use to do this?

I do understand that this information can be hard to accept or understand for others but this is my answer to the question; what I think is going to happen in 2012.
Ppl can either use the information or ignore it, it all depends how open they are to other views and opinions.
I try to be open without being gullible, which means, among other things, asking about the sources of the ideas people espouse.

Remember the "Heaven's Gate" cult in California? This was a group who back in 1997 were convinced that the appearance of Comet Hale-Bopp signified the end of the world, and that they would not need their earthly bodies any more. Tragically many of them killed themselves in a mass suicide in order to "ascend" to a space ship traveling with the comet. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult)

Unfortunately many of the themes in this thread seem remarkably similar.

To NeedKarma:

The link to your innernet is curiosity everything you need to know will come to you if you are ready for it. I do share my messages but if people do not understand it then the message is not for them.



Take whatever is coming to you... let the beauty of it move you !

Was "innernet" simply a typo of "internet" or does it mean something else?

To Ordinaryguy:

answer to your first question:
Some things I posted can be found on dutch sites unfortunately there is no english translation.
But I know there is a book called Earth changes and 2012, messages from the founders written by: Sal Rachele.
On YouTube you can find a vid: WTTV=welcome to the vortex, from Daphne Karandis she channels the council of An PT1-3 with likewise information I posted.
My personal favorite books are from Barbara Handclow ,Barbara Marciniak and Amorah quan Yin.

answer to your second question:
The technique is of course interpretation from the planets, asteroids and all the other aspects which might occur on a chart for a specific day, or the transits and progression for a time. The thing is that I use uncommon planets and asteroids most astrologers rarely use. I use Chiron, black moon Lillith, Pallas, Juno, Pholus (stargate), Vulcano, Quaoar (which is the key to the so called Indigo children), the goddesses Eris, Sedna, Vesta and also Sirius and Nibiru. But Im still investigating a lot though. Like Nostradamus was very accurate with his predictions.. I can verify some of the messages I get through astrology.

My sources:
I once had a revelation of mother Mary and it was the most beautiful experience I've ever had... so much love, warmth and understanding, I never felt so save. At that moment I felt like I was a child.
The messages I get are from Maria Magdalena and I learn a lot about the female thing.

I hope I could give you a satisfying answer... thanks for asking!

To Ebaines:

Im not sure but it seems that you are referring to my post.
If so... I would like to ask you to read my post again, because there is not one thing similar to the horrible tragedy you are mentioning. Im not saying anything about the end of the world... I am talking transformation. Im not saying to leave the body but even stronger to ascent including the body. I am not talking about spaceships to pick us up.. this is not about leaving the earth.
I also said that a comet and Nibiru will pass by so we only get to see them.
I am not a person to commit to any cult I only commit to myself and the truth I find.

You see Im convinced that its very normal for things to change.. its called evolution for every living thing like people, planets, creatures and all else. Nothing stays the same it's the circle of life. It is very remarkable that some people keep holding on to fear to make a change while its not in their true human nature like curiosity is and exploring oneself.

Take whatever is coming to you... let the beauty of it move you!

To NeedKarma:

LOL I really did mean INNERNET... like using my intuition, asking questions and see what comes up on my screen.

I do believe there will be a major change, but does not necessarily mean the end. Many people assume that the calendar is meaning the end of the world. I think it means a end to an age, but a beginning of a new era. Something big is going to happen. I guess we will all have to wait and see what that may be.