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firmbeliever
Mar 4, 2008, 04:00 AM
Do you believe in a life after death?
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
Allheart
Mar 4, 2008, 04:26 AM
Hi Firm,
I love your questions as many of them swim around in my head as well.
Yes, I believe in life after we pass on from this life.
But I do believe I personally, will not make it directly to Paradise until I atone for my sins and wrong doings.
I do believe in Purgatory - or a place like that.
The reason I say that is because of those beautiful children and people who struggle every blessed day, wondering how they will eat for the day, how will they make it to the next hour. I believe our little ones who are called home sooner then we would ever want, go right into Our Father's loving arms.
Compared to those beautiful people, of course I don't. And so I must atone for my sins.
For my selfishness in having things that I don't need, for getting upset or angry, cursing, all of it. I must atone. I can make a start while here, but I just can't imagine going directly to heaven. I feel I do not deserve, at this point, to go directly there.
I believe in a place of peace, love and great joy. Where are loved ones are and where we all hope to be. Where there is no pain, no suffering and most of all, where God truly is.
I'm frieghtened in a way to lay eyes on him because of my sins even though I know he is a merciful God.
That's why I don't fear leaving this earth, there are times I long for that peace, and not just for me, but for all. I long to see no more hurt or suffering.
But I guess, it's not my time to be called home.
So, yes, do believe there is Heaven and Our Loving Father who waits for us. I'm excited and yet feel ashamed all at the same time to see Our Father, but mostly I feel great love and hope and do look forward to the day I hope to be in His arms.
Sorry I rambled on so much. I just am so grateful that Our Father loves us so much.
Thanks Firm for asking :)
NeedKarma
Mar 4, 2008, 04:44 AM
I don't believe in an afterlife. I believe that this ~90 years in our bodies is it for everyone so we better make the best of it. My experience has been that the ones who are most vocal about there being an afterlife are the ones who are not enjoying this life and thus are hoping for something better. I simply try to make this life good and attempt to make it better for myself and others.
Allheart
Mar 4, 2008, 05:39 AM
I'm not too much vocal about it, unless asked. Or if someone needs comfort when their loved one passes.
I do enjoy this life - in a way that I am so grateful for - in a way that I feel so blessed and yet guilty, because I know there is suffering and I wonder why them and not me.
There is just a fast difference between happiness on earth and a happiness and joy of the heaven I believe in.
So, NK I didn't want to mislead you or anyone, I am blessed and loved more then I could ever have thought possible.
I will admit, I deeply do struggle with many things about life here and wish there wasn't any pain or suffering.
I may not be making any sense, I more then respect your view and belief and would never want to say my way is the right way or you are to believe in my way.
I am happy here - but when I think of eternal happiness they are two very different meanings.
My Dad and Pops and Grandma and all my loved ones are resting at peace and may they be in God's loving arms.
But you are right NK, I don't think I could ever have complete joy here. I have moments,
But they don't last because of the things that I do see. But heaven isn't the bandaid for the painful things on earth, or the rope you hold onto when it seems all hope has failed. To be quite honest, I rarely think of heaven. That's probably a bad thing, but I do think of God and do hold on to my faith when things are rough here.
I probably should think of heaven more then I do - but I don't - I guess because I feel I don't have a direct flight so to speak.
curlybenswife
Mar 4, 2008, 05:48 AM
Honestly... yes and no, in one breath I think well I don't believe in god so how can I say there's a afterlife but the other side of me says hold on who says we come back as human entity? No one knows what form we could manifest into so how can I say never?
Fr_Chuck
Mar 4, 2008, 07:13 AM
Well like allheart, I am not very vocal about this either ( anyone believe that)
Of course I believe there is from faith, trust and knowing a personal relastionship with my God. I can not even start to understand the worry and the sadness that must happen to a person who does not know that this life is not even a good start to what is to come. To wake up every day with the thought that it could be the last and then nothing. Of all of the sorrow and pain people come here with, knowing that people wake up each day with that loneliness in their heart and soul of not first having the love of their God, but also in the belief that there is nothing more than this. It is enough to cause tears in body and spirit.
NeedKarma
Mar 4, 2008, 07:24 AM
I can not even start to understand the worry and the sadness that must happen to a person who does not know that this life is not even a good start to what is to come. I believe I have mentioned it before, the sadness you speak of is a part of you not a part of me or others like me. It is sad however that you believe that "this life is not even a good start".
curlybenswife
Mar 4, 2008, 09:15 AM
Im not sad my life is so full I have no need to believe now saying that I have never said that my life won't always be that full but we all live and walk different paths so please save your understanding for someone who needs it.
Dark_crow
Mar 4, 2008, 09:20 AM
We are told by God through his Profits that Mankind was created to live in an earthly Paradise. The first human couple, our first human father and mother, were in paradise to begin with. In telling us what it was like, his written Word, the Holy Bible, calls it the “garden in Eden,” the name “Eden” meaning “Pleasure.”—Gen. 1:26-28; 2:7-14.
Obviously it was God's purpose to have an earthly Paradise in which humankind would enjoy everlasting life in peace and security. God will not permit this purpose of his to go unfulfilled.
“Everything that is my delight I shall do,” he says. “I have even spoken it; I shall also bring it in.” (Isaiah 46:10, 11) Yes, God will do what he purposes! And his promise is: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.”—Psalm 37:29.
Fr_Chuck
Mar 4, 2008, 09:21 AM
Im not sad my life is so full i have no need to believe now saying that i have never said that my life wont always be that full but we all live and walk different paths so please save your understanding for someone who needs it.
I do, and those that don't do need it. I also was not trying to speak directly at anyone, you were not the only one who mentioned such belief here. But having been part and seen the conversion of 100's of people to faith over the years, this has always been the one uniting factor, they realised after they found their Salvation how empty their lfe really was.
Often you don't know what you are missing till you find it,
curlybenswife
Mar 4, 2008, 09:30 AM
I do, and those that don't do need it. I also was not trying to speak directly at anyone, you were not the only one who mentioned such beleif here. But having been part and seen the conversion of 100's of people to faith over the years, this has always been the one uniting factor, they realised after they found thier Salvation how empty thier lfe really was.
Often you don't know what you are missing till you find it,
This will sound awfull but its qoutes like that, that make me run a mile I am my own person in my own right and I don't feel the need to be a part of your faith, I'm glad you feel you need it and also glad you believe in it as I say we all walk different paths maybe one day they will cross you see I never say never but right now I have no wish or need for anything of such in my life.
Hense why I can't say yay or nay to there being an afterlife, you see my nanna was part of the church of england in a big way and I'm more than aware of what her faith meant to her but it still makes it a weird one in my mind.
NeedKarma
Mar 4, 2008, 09:36 AM
But having been part and seen the conversion of 100's of people to faith over the years, this has always been the one uniting factor, they realised after they found thier Salvation how empty thier lfe really was.
Often you don't know what you are missing till you find it,There are many weak people in this world who are bordering on desperation, whatever pulls them from the brink is OK with me I guess.
Dark_crow
Mar 4, 2008, 09:57 AM
Millions of people in America are living in relative peace and security with-out severe trials. Of course they do not presently need hope for the future because they see the future as though it were the present.
But what of the millions in the world who are suffering severs trials?
What exultant joy the apostles had when they came into severe trials! They summoned the apostles, flogged them, and charged them to stop speaking upon the basis of Jesus' name, and let them go. These, therefore, went their way from before the San´hedrin, rejoicing because they had been counted worthy to be dishonored in behalf of his name
How could they suffer a flogging and rejoice over it- because of the joy-producing hope that they had. There was reason for joy also because they had passed a severe trial, and by doing so had worked out endurance. Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you meet with various trials, knowing as you do that this tested quality of your faith works out endurance. Since God is the Source of hope he is also the Source of joy. The joy of God is your strength. Joy, a fruit of the spirit, comes in unbounded measure when we “persevere in prayer,” requesting God's holy spirit. His spirit enriches our hope.
But I wonder about those who are living in relative peace and security with-out severe trails…I wonder how they will endure when the time comes that they must endure severe trials in their life, and the time will come.
nicki143
Mar 4, 2008, 10:48 AM
I do not believe in god but reincarnation yes for some reason.
I used to have dreams one of them I was in a café in the local station what was still there up to a couple of years ago it was during ww2. When I woke up I thought oh it was that café but that café does nothave windows having never been in there in my whole life for some reason I had togo and have a look when I went there were windows just thought I must have been there as a child and the memory had stuck.
Not long after that I dreamt that I was running down a street with old buildings which is still there and there were bombs falling and I hid and a bomb fell on the building opposite me. When I awoke I could not breath and it seemed so real.
Only a couple of days ago I was looking at old photos on the net and that building did get bombed I could not believe it.
I have always liked with war era and I remember at school when I was 11 doing about the war and being really upset when we finished.
Could all this be a past life or in my head?
firmbeliever
Mar 5, 2008, 12:22 PM
My experience has been that the ones who are most vocal about there being an afterlife are the ones who are not enjoying this life and thus are hoping for something better. I simply try to make this life good and attempt to make it better for myself and others.
I am quite vocal about my thoughts on the afterlife and this life too.
But I have to say that I enjoy my life,my family,fun times,celebrations,every single day I find that I enjoy life doing everything or nothing and just laze around.
I am not the thrill seeking type,but I have enjoyed some roller coaster rides too (which I did feel as if I was dying every second on it.:)).
I find that those I know personally who are firmbelivers in a next life do enjoy their life the same as non-believers.
And we too have our days when we don't enjoy so much,sad times too come our way.
I think believers and non-believers are not that different being human we have our happy times and sad times equally, times we enjoy and times we wish we did not have to face.
The only difference maybe that believers accept that we have to prepare during this journey called life to be well packed for the next life.
But I wonder about those who are living in relative peace and security with-out severe trails…I wonder how they will endure when the time comes that they must endure severe trials in their life, and the time will come.
This is such a thought provoking statement.
I wonder too what the outcome will be...
CBW,
One can never say never and I am glad you haven't decided one way or another.:)
Nicki,
Personally I do not believe in reincarnation into this very same world (this earth,sun,moon etc),but yes I do believe in a sort of continuation from this world to another after death.
Thank you Allheart.
Thank you Fr-Chuck for your thoughts too.
topladyj
Mar 5, 2008, 01:59 PM
Oh yes I do believe in afterlife for I am an old sole. I have always been told that from many people who have met me. Growing up I was the one that had to tell my mom what to do when a situation arose... lol Even though I was young I still had the answers. Still till this day she ask me for advise. As I do to when I am not sure of the answer.
Also I used to be deathly afraid of trains. I would cry when they went by no reason why I just would bust out in tears. (I think it was something from a past life.) When I went to training for my job I had to ride an amtrack I really enjoyed it. I have no idea why I was so scared of them its kind of stupid. But maybe a train killed me in my past I don't know.
But I do know that I believe Firmly in life after death.
Dark_crow
Mar 5, 2008, 02:11 PM
I do not believe in god but reincarnation yes for some reason.
Hi Nicki
Although the Bible does not support the reincarnation doctrine, nobody needs to feel disappointed. The Bible’s message offers something far more comforting than the idea of being reborn in a world filled with sickness, sorrow, pain, and death. And not only is what the Bible offers comforting but it is the truth, God’s own Word.
Paul expressed the encouraging doctrine in this way: “I have hope toward God . . . that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” The word “resurrection,” or some form of it, occurs over 50 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, and Paul speaks of it as a primary doctrine of the Christian faith.—Acts 24:15; Hebrews 6:1, 2.
Resurrection from the dead means, obviously, that death exists. Nowhere in the Bible will you find any hint that man has an immortal soul. If man had an immortal soul that separated from the body at death and went to an everlasting destiny in heaven or in hell or was reincarnated, then there would be no need for a resurrection. On the other hand, some one hundred Bible texts show that the human soul is, not immortal, but mortal and destructible. The Bible consistently speaks of death as being the opposite of life, that is, nonexistence as contrasted with existence.
Galveston1
Mar 7, 2008, 06:50 PM
Job 19:25-27
25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
(KJV)(From the oldest book in the Bible)
2 Cor 5:8
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
(KJV)(How could we be present with the Lord, if not conscious?)
Luke 16:22-23
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
(KJV)(The rich man was concious)
Luke 16:27-28
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
(KJV)(The rich man had his memory intact)
Donna Mae
Mar 8, 2008, 12:13 AM
"In my Father's house are many mansions,"
Jesus went to prepare this place for me and you. Yes there definitely is an afterlife. It's called heaven.
JoeCanada76
Mar 8, 2008, 12:17 AM
Do you beleive in a life after death?
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
I have always believed in our next life. That everything we do in this life and the people we are around. That we all effect each other and also effect our next life from the way we live now in this life.
I do believe in life after life. What would I be able to struggle with or give up?
I would suffer physically, emotionally. I would live poorly to be able to live richly in the next life.
inthebox
Mar 8, 2008, 01:10 AM
Yes:
"a continual looking forward to the eternal world is not..escapism...
but one of the things a Christian is meant to do.
It does not mean that we are to leave the present world as it is.
Aim at heaven and you will get earth thrown in;
aim at earth and you will get neither."
--C. S. Lewis in Mere Christianity
"Good and evil both increase at compound interest. That is why the little decisions you and I make everyday are of such infinite importance."
--C. S. Lewis
Similar to yours, Firm ;)
"The only difference maybe that believers accept that we have to prepare during this journey called life to be well packed for the next life."
0rphan
Mar 25, 2008, 01:53 PM
Hi firmbeliever
Without a shadow of doubt, YES THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH, not the earthly life as we know it but in a spirit form.Our human body is just the clothing for this earth when we pass over it is no longer needed so is left behind, like anything that has served it's purpose we throw it away.
I know many will be saying all kinds of things on reading this statement I can only say what I know to be true having had several personal experiences over the years.
Unfortunately I'm not going to expand on this topic due to losing my dear Mum and brother not long ago, still not quite strong enough yet but I will follow this discussion with interest, I have to close now but will leave you with one last line;
WHAT PEOPLE CANNOT SEE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND CONSEQUENTLY DISBELIEVE
UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM...
Takecare everyone bye for now
simoneaugie
Mar 25, 2008, 08:07 PM
There is no death, only change and improved understanding. The afterlife is an awakening to the reality of unity. Right and wrong don't matter, only the awakening. Love is life, love does not end, but it changes.
firmbeliever
Apr 1, 2008, 12:53 PM
Thank you for sharing you thoughts...
spitvenom
Apr 1, 2008, 01:45 PM
I do not believe in an after life. I just think the after life is something our mind makes up because we can't fathom being nothing after we are dead. And If I am wrong oh well no use crying over spilled milk.
firmbeliever
Apr 5, 2008, 03:26 AM
Thank you for your thoughts spitvenom.
Credendovidis
Apr 5, 2008, 05:53 PM
I do not believe in an after life. I just think the after life is something our mind makes up because we can't fathom being nothing after we are dead ...
In the far far past the thought of an after life made life bearable for many. Specially to those who experienced hard times. Almost all religions used that wish for an after life by turning it into the well known "carrot-on-a-stick" by including it into it's doctrine, as an incentive for it's followers to continue participating till their death.
What makes Christianity special is it's focus (through the NT) on love and forgiveness.
;)
0rphan
Apr 6, 2008, 12:37 PM
Do you beleive in a life after death?
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
I know several people who have no religious believes yet still they believe in an after life of course unless they're making it up in which case there's an awful lot of people in cloud cook-coo land having the same thoughts...
Many people fall on hard times myself included for many years as did my parents( GOD BLESS THEIR SOULS) but at no time during my childhood or any of my five brothers and sisters upbringing do I remember them telling us a bedtime story or any other story that included the words " never mind my children it will be better in the after life" that would be going just a bit to far,. don't you think
Be careful now no making up stories...
firmbeliever
Apr 6, 2008, 02:12 PM
I am not sure I understand what you are saying Orphan,about not making up stories?
I thought you said you believed in an afterlife.
0rphan
Apr 6, 2008, 02:34 PM
Do you beleive in a life after death?
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
Hi firmbeliever
Definiteily 100%+... so sorry reply was meant for previous post -spitvenom/credendodivis
My sincere apologies clicked on wrong reply button- tiredness and old age catching up
Godbless
Credendovidis
Apr 6, 2008, 08:01 PM
i know several people who have no religious believes yet still they believe in an after life of course unless they're making it up in which case there's an awful lot of people in cloud cook-coo land having the same thoughts.......
Maybe there are already too many people living in that (religious) cloud cook-coo land you mentioned...
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Many people fall on hard times myself included for many years as did my parents( GOD BLESS THEIR SOULS) but at no time during my childhood or any of my five brothers and sisters upbringing do i remember them telling us a bedtime story or any other story that included the words " never mind my children it will be better in the after life" that would be going just a bit to far,..... don't you think
I never suggested that (see my post). However now you mention that I note that religious brainwashing is nothing abnormal, specially in over-religious-schizophrenic US of A.
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Be careful now no making up stories....
No need for that. There are already more than enough made-up religious stories...
:rolleyes:
0rphan
Apr 7, 2008, 01:20 PM
Maybe there are already too many people living in that (religious) cloud cook-coo land you mentioned ....
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I never suggested that (see my post). However now you mention that I note that religious brainwashing is nothing abnormal, specially in over-religious-schizophrenic US of A.
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No need for that. There are already more than enough made-up religious stories ....
:rolleyes:
Note: I said, I know people who have no religious believes yet still believe in an after life
I'm glad those are your words and not mine, I wouldn't insult my fellow man about their beliefs we should accept that we are all different and show some respect.
I know that there are some religious followings which do in your words - religious brainwashing- my son was almost caught out by this some years ago thankfully he realized that the teachings were wrong and shortly left, so that's one thing we will agree upon.
Credendovidis
Apr 7, 2008, 03:31 PM
note: i said, i know people who have no religious believes yet still believe in an after life
And I know people who have religious believes, but who do not believe in a Heaven or Hell.
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I'm glad those are your words and not mine, i wouldn't insult my fellow man about their beliefs we should accept that we are all different and show some respect.
Neither do I do that. I just stated what we all know is true.
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I know that there are some religious followings which do in your words - religious brainwashing- my son was almost caught out by this some years ago thankfully he realized that the teachings were wrong and shortly left, so that's one thing we will agree upon.
So you AGREE with what I stated, but STILL you call that what I stated an "insult (to) my fellow man about their beliefs"
'nough said..
:rolleyes:
KD33
Apr 7, 2008, 03:50 PM
I believe that there is a higher power because well we had to have been created by something right? Well I believe that higher power is God, and that the only afterlife that shall be occurring is the one in which is the rapture and everyone dies and the christians are taken to heaven and the world is destroyed and recreated and then the remaining people go back on earth and live in peace. I know that is a Bible myth but I believe in it and I believe it's reality. Because they have found many biblical things that are true like the crosiing of the red sea, noah's ark and sadam and gamora. They've also found the arc of the covenant. Sorry I'm going on and on about it but I honestly believe that the bible is full of true stories and especially ones about Jesus. You told me to ell you what I believe and this is what I believe. They even have pictures to prove that they found those artofacts about charriot wheels in the red sea and the crossing spot and the petrified wood of noahs arc and the pillar of salt in which sauls wife turned to when she looked back on sadam and gamora.
Credendovidis
Apr 8, 2008, 05:05 PM
I believe that there is a higher power because well we had to have been created by something right?
I disagree with this and other of your statements and conclusions here, but admire your honesty to start them (and repeat several times) with "I believe that..."
Please be aware that there is no objective supported evidence for the crossing of the Red Sea, for Noah's ark, for Sodom and Gomorrah, etc. Many are repeats of other Middle Eastern Regional religious stories (Noah´s Ark is for instance a repeat of the Gilgamesh Epic that is thousands of years older than the first Bible book). Pictures of any artifacts found only prove that these artifacts were really found. Not that they are what they are claimed to be!
The stories in the Bible are interesting and even intriguing. Some may even be true. But that does not prove that the rest of the Bible, and/or the Bible in it´s entirety is true.
But that stated : a good and honest approach!
;)
readnow1978
Apr 25, 2008, 07:35 AM
There is an afterlife and this life is a test for it, if you claim you believe in ALMIGHTY GOD and you want to go to heaven you have to live your life according to what God says, and God's commands are in his final revelation, the quran, revealed to the last prophet Muhammed, who came 600 yrs after jesus, all the prophets taught the same things, to worship the ONE CREATOR, ALMIGHTY GOD
readnow1978
Apr 25, 2008, 07:40 AM
it is a different thing, that some of the 'followers' of jesus mistakenly attributed divinity to jesus, and now most of the christians believe in trinity, whereas in the revised standard version of the bible, the only verse re trinity has been thrown out of the bible as a fabrication, jesus said 'my Lord and your lord is the one lord', THE MESSAGE THAT ALL THE PROPHETS WERE SENT WITH was the same, Almighty God tells us in his last revelation the quran that He will safeguard His last revelation, and it remains unchanged after 1400 years, and millions of people have committed this book to memory
ALMIGHTY GOD tells us in the quran that as He is the MOST FORGIVING He will forgive any sin that He wishes but He will never forgive those who attribute partners to Him, WHICH IS WHAT NEARLY ALL THE CHRISTIANS OF THE WORLD ARE DOING BY CALLING jESUS GOD/son of GOD, ehich is blasphemy and will take you to hell for eternity
read the quran before it is too late and save yourselves
GUYBRUSH
May 15, 2008, 03:39 AM
No one alive will ever know. Have you ever talked to a dead person? Hea fido mahhhrawww
lobrobster
May 15, 2008, 11:48 AM
I don't think there is an afterlife, but if I did... I think I'd be willing to do and/or give up a lot more than most of the people who currently do think there is an afterlife. Some of you can't even get yourself to church every Sunday. Are you kidding me? Such a small price to pay for eternal reward!
Judy Jarrell
May 15, 2008, 11:59 AM
I believe in life after death. Because I believe that Jesus died for us in order to give us the choice to have that life. Depending on how we choose to live our life here on earth and whether we ask for forgiveness will allow us that possibility. We are not meant to have all the answers all the time, but when the time is right those answers appear when the purpose presents itself. The thing to remember is hope. And have faith.
frangipanis
May 17, 2008, 05:49 AM
Do you beleive in a life after death?
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
Hi firmbeliever, I like your line of questioning.
I haven't so much stopped believing in an afterlife as having stopped needing to know what it's all about or struggling to find my place within the schemata of religious experience, if that makes sense. After years of soul searching, one day I was sitting out in the sun and felt wonderfully at peace, and for some reason I just stopped asking. I know there's a great mystery to this universe, and I'm more than happy and content for it be just that, a great mystery :)
GUYBRUSH
May 17, 2008, 02:09 PM
I think there a chance in ever thing but you'll never see going to church praying to a ruler
Because I RULE. EVEN IF I DID BELEAVE IN GOD I STILL WOULD NOT APROVE OF HIS "SET UP" WHY DOSE HE MAKE COWS UNABLE TO Speak AND THEN MAKE ME HUNGER SO I NEED TO EAT THE COW. AND WHY TEN INFINITY STAR'S AND ONLY EARTH
IF THERE IS A GOD IED LIKE TO Impeach HIM AND have Arnold Schwarzenegger take his place because he's not lazy. I mean really why are there so many fly in my house that I need to kill when it seezs thouth shall not kill who the hell is thouth and WHAT DOSE HE DO. AND ANY ONE WHO recommend's that I go to a lake of burning fire for beaten off because I have truble getting laid can go f them self. This is usa a this is the real reason
Why irock hates us to begain with it's a holy war. Likes the words of chuck d can't trust it.
ordinaryguy
May 17, 2008, 03:57 PM
I haven't so much stopped believing in an afterlife as having stopped needing to know what it's all about or struggling to find my place within the schemata of religious experience, if that makes sense. After years of soul searching, one day I was sitting out in the sun and felt wonderfully at peace, and for some reason I just stopped asking. I know there's a great mystery to this universe, and I'm more than happy and content for it be just that, a great mystery :)
Yes! Not every question our mind can conceive has an answer, and "I don't know" is a perfectly good one. A sense of wonder and respect for mystery is the beginning of wisdom. The rational intellect is our servant, not our master and slavedriver.
frangipanis
May 17, 2008, 11:47 PM
The rational intellect is our servant, not our master and slavedriver.
I'll remember that one! Thanks for that ordinary guy.
ordinaryguy
May 18, 2008, 04:51 AM
I'll remember that one! Thanks for that ordinary guy.
Actually, I kind of ripped it off from Einstein. The full quote is something like:
Intuition is a sacred gift and the rational mind a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant but has forgotten the gift.
firmbeliever
May 18, 2008, 08:11 AM
Lobroster,Judy Farell, Frangipanis,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
i think there a chance in ever thing but youll never see going to church praying to a ruler
BEACUSE I RULE. EVEN IF I DID BELEAVE IN GOD I STILL WOULD NOT APROVE OF HIS "SET UP" WHY DOSE HE MAKE COWS UNABLE TO SPEEK AND THEN MAKE ME HUNGER SO I NEED TO EAT THE COW. AND WHY TEN INFINITY STAR'S AND ONLY EARTH
IF THERE IS A GOD IED LIKE TO Impeach HIM AND have Arnold Schwarzenegger take his place becuse he's not lazy. i mean realy why are there so many fly in my house that i need to kill when it seezs thouth shall not kill who the hell is thouth and WHAT DOSE HE DO. AND ANY ONE WHO recommend's that i go to a lake of burning fire for beaten off becuse i have truble geting laid can go f them self. this is usa a this is the real reason
why irock hates us to begain with its a holy war. likes the words of chuck d can't trust it.
I am sorry,but I am unable to understand your post.
kaya Al Harthy
May 18, 2008, 08:28 AM
Hello everyone
I'm new at this so bare with me a bit. Yes I do believe in an after life and the god has created us to which one of us all really deseve to be in heaven and that's we pass through all these tests every day. As that is his way of testing our faith to see who are the true beleivers and who are not. As for the sins, once we decide to go back to him and never do anymore sins, I do believe that he is the most gracious and most merciful will forgive us.
De Maria
May 18, 2008, 09:02 AM
Do you believe in a life after death?
Yes.
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
My will. In emulation of my loving Master, I fuse myself in the Divine Will of God.
Hebrews 10 9 Then said I: Behold, I come to do thy will, O God:
Therefore,
Philippians 1 21 For to me, to live is Christ; and to die is gain.
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Praise God!
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
May the love of God be always on your mind, your lips and in your heart.
Sincerely,
De Maria
frangipanis
May 18, 2008, 07:20 PM
Actually, I kind of ripped it off from Einstein.
Still a great quote, and I don't think Einstein is going to be too worried about it :)
frangipanis
May 18, 2008, 10:11 PM
[QUOTE=firmbeliever]lobroster,Judy Farell, Frangipanis,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.QUOTE]
Thanks firmbeliever, and thought you might like this.
SkyGem
May 18, 2008, 10:40 PM
Do you beleive in a life after death?
Absolutely and unequivocally I do! As a Born Again Christian having given my life to Jesus Christ, I know there is evidence of the Afterlife in the Holy Bible.
"For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the Heavens." -- 2 CORINTHIANS 5:1 (KJV)
Even if you do not,if there was the remotest possibility that a life after death existed,what will you willingly give up or struggle to do in order to be happy in the next life?
The first thing one must do in order to be happy in the next life is to become a Born Again Christian. For that is the ONLY way any person can enter into Heaven, by first giving their life to Jesus Christ while they are still on Earth.
"Jesus saith unto him, I Am the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -- JOHN 14:6 (KJV)
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be Born Again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." -- JOHN 3:3 (KJV)
Jesus went on to say:
"Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in Heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in Heaven." -- MATTHEW 10:32-33 (KJV)
This last Scripture is very important for man's Salvation for it is the KEY into the entrance of the Afterlife! As a Born Again Christian who confesses Jesus before men, as I do so often with all of you, I am truly comforted in knowing that Jesus will also confess me before my Heavenly Father and there is no greater blessing, comfort, and assurance than that for me!
We all know that whatever you do in this life, good or bad, is recorded in the Book of Life by God. Therefore, a Born Again Loving, charitable Christian person who does what God expects of him or her will receive a glorious eternal new home in Heaven when it comes time to pass from this life.
I do believe in an afterlife(as most of you who know me has already heard many times).:D
Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
P.s.
I know I keep asking similar questions,but these are things I do think about and would appreciate your thoughts on them.:)
I am very glad that you asked about these very important things! They should be a part of everyone's knowledge as their own Salvation depends solely upon knowing and doing these things in order to attain Salvation thereby to be able to enter God's Afterlife at your appointed time.
For more on the Afterlife, with information written by doctors (M.D.s, Ph.D, etc.) including a section on Heaven and Hell, and also discussions on very real demons, you may wish to visit the following most informative website. It may be a little lengthy but well-worth the time it takes to finish reading every sentence!
Life After Death (http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/life_after_death.htm)
firmbeliever
May 19, 2008, 07:34 AM
Beautiful bird,beautiful pic Frangipani,Thank you.
Is that a bird-of-paradise?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts SkyGem.
For more on the Afterlife, with information written by doctors (M.D.s, Ph.D, etc.) including a section on Heaven and Hell, and also discussions on very real demons, you may wish to visit the following most informative website. It may be a little lengthy but well-worth the time it takes to finish reading every sentence!
Thanks for the link,but I already do have clear information regarding the afterlife.
frangipanis
May 19, 2008, 05:22 PM
Beautiful bird,beautiful pic Frangipani,Thank you.
is that a bird-of-paradise?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts SkyGem.
Thanks for the link,but I already do have clear information regarding the afterlife.
Yes, it is beautiful, and it is a bird-of-paradise. Wouldn't it make an wonderful painting.
You seem like a really lovely lady, and I hope you have a great day!
frangipanis
May 19, 2008, 05:24 PM
i think there a chance in ever thing but youll never see going to church praying to a ruler
BEACUSE I RULE. EVEN IF I DID BELEAVE IN GOD I STILL WOULD NOT APROVE OF HIS "SET UP" WHY DOSE HE MAKE COWS UNABLE TO SPEEK AND THEN MAKE ME HUNGER SO I NEED TO EAT THE COW. AND WHY TEN INFINITY STAR'S AND ONLY EARTH
IF THERE IS A GOD IED LIKE TO Impeach HIM AND have Arnold Schwarzenegger take his place becuse he's not lazy. i mean realy why are there so many fly in my house that i need to kill when it seezs thouth shall not kill who the hell is thouth and WHAT DOSE HE DO. AND ANY ONE WHO recommend's that i go to a lake of burning fire for beaten off becuse i have truble geting laid can go f them self. this is usa a this is the real reason
why irock hates us to begain with its a holy war. likes the words of chuck d can't trust it.
I just couldn't resist this pic that someone sent me this morning... no real offense intended :)
firmbeliever
May 20, 2008, 01:27 PM
Yes, it is beautiful, and it is a bird-of-paradise. Wouldn't it make an wonderful painting.
You seem like a really lovely lady, and I hope you have a great day!
It sure would.
Aww thank you,I hope you have a great day too.
And just so you know,I think frangipanis are beautiful flowers:)