Is it a person?

Does ability to speak with great emotion in a tongue that a person never studied prove that he has God’s spirit?

Who is baptized with holy spirit?

1. No
2. No
3. Those who have been Baptized in the Trinitarian formula

All 3 are my opinion based on my faith. Others may disagree ;)

The holy spirit is God. The ability to speak in a tongue never studied is a gift of the holy spirit. There may be a tangible, intense emotional response for which one may believe they have been baptised with the holy spirit.

The ability to speak in a tongue never studied is a gift of the holy spirit.

Not always, in my humble opinion. I believe in some cases of possession by a spirit not of God, the victim has spoken in languages never studied.

The holy spirit is God. The ability to speak in a tongue never studied is a gift of the holy spirit. There may be a tangible, intense emotional response for which one may believe they have been baptised with the holy spirit.
I do believe that first-century Christians “spoke in tongues” and that this filled definite needs back then. It served as a sign that God had shifted his favor from the Jewish system to the newly formed Christian congregation. (Heb. 2:2-4)’ (2). It was a practical means to spread the good news on an international scale in a short time. (Acts 1:8)


Do you believe that the “speaking in tongues” that is done today is the same as what was practiced by first-century Christians?

1 John 4:1: “Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression [“every spirit,” KJ, RS], but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” (See also Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Corinthians 11:14, 15.)

As to your first question: It should be "who" not "what".

Acts 10:45-47
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
(KJV)

Peter, and his friends knew that gentiles were now saved because of the manifestation of the "tongues".

AND: They were saved and filled with the Holy Ghost BEFORE they were baptized in water.
(My personal experience was in the same order. Saved, baptized (or filled) in the Holy Ghost, and later baptized in water, in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Are "tongues" a certain sign that something is from God? Not at all! I'm certain that the fallen angels know a lot of languages. We still have to be directed by the Bible as to beliefs and conduct

The Holy Spirit is the 3rd part of the Holy trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
His function is to produce the life of Jesus in the believer. He will manifest
The fruit of the spirit in the believers life. The 9 attributes of Jesus that developed in the life of someone who has been born again and who has been indwelt by the Holy Spirit are love, joy, peace, long suffering, kindness, goodness, faihfulness, gentleness, and self control, (Gal 5:22-23) The Lord said, " you shall be holy, for I the Lord your god am
holy " To be holy means to be separated to God. Something about God's nature itself speaks of holiness. Being set apart to God makes us holy. We are not made holy by doing good things. We are made holy by faith in Christ, just as we are saved by faith.

Maggie 3

Is it a person?

Does ability to speak with great emotion in a tongue that a person never studied prove that he has God’s spirit?

Who is baptized with holy spirit?

The Holy Spirit is a person. If you are given the gift of tongues then this is evidence of being baptised in the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is an indwelling force that empowers the believer but he is just assuredly God as is Jesus and the Father.

As you ask I am baptised in the Holy Spirit and would be happy to answer any questions you have privately

Is it a person?

The Holy Spirit is an indenity of likeness to our Father and HIS begotten Son Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is righteousness, and the image of who Jesus/flesh spoke and walked in because He was begotten of the Father

As (1 Corinthians 15:49-53) does say that we are borne an image of earth like was Seth borne of Adam's own image(Genesis 5:3). However we shall bear the image of heaven which is one of immortality. The flesh and blood of earth can not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. However the flesh born again of the spirit in baptism, comes to the image of righteousness, gifted the Holy Spirit. As Christ beared record in suffering righteousness in baptism. But at that time Christ had not yet given up the spirit, yet sent the Holy Spirit to comfort them after He decended into heaven.

In the beginning before satan beguiled Eve, it was the indenity of the Father and Son mentioned as our image in (Genesis 1:26) and our {likeness/righteousness of Holy Spirit}, that man was created.


This heavenly image is what God has delivered to us through Christ Jesus blood shed, and baptism of the Holy Spirit. ONE Lord, ONE Faith, ONE Baptism, ONE Father and God of all, above all, and through all, and in you all.

Thus we can be one with God (John 17:21)

Does ability to speak with great emotion in a tongue that a person never studied prove that he has God's spirit?
When the tongue is spoken in good conversation of Christ.



Who is baptized with holy spirit?

Those who have surrendered in righteousness/doing the will of God, and confessed Faith in Christ Jesus

~in Christ

The Holy Spirit is a person because He acts like one.Anything that has a mouth to speak is a person.
Speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit.If it is a gift then we cannot talk about an ability of any kind because nobody gives something to someone if that someone already has it.It is a gift meaning there is no possible way to gain this by any kind of ability except by accepting the offering.
To discern who is really baptized by the Holy Spirit do not go after the gifts but after the fruit.If the person produces good fruit then the Holy Spirit is in that person because no bad tree can produce good fruit.You will see many gifted persons not bearing good fruit and from those depart and stay away!
So it is not what I have to testify who I am, but what I do with it!

Dark_crow,
1. Yes the Holy Spirit is a person, one of three person in our triune God.
2. Yes it can happen, but I believe that most who are claiming to be able to do so are not, AND a person can be influenced to do so by an evil spirit.
3. A person who is baptized as Jesus instructed, that is in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit id baptized in the Holy Spirit.
It is all in the holy book called the Holy bible.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

The Holy Spirit is a person because He acts like one.Anything that has a mouth to speak is a person.

Adam, I trust the Holy Spirit is a spiritual identity, being one with God. The Spirit gifted to the inward man, effective to the conscience of mankind. The Holy Spirit can guild you and comfort your path in righteousness, showing you the way.

It was Christ as man with the Holy Spirit that died on the cross. Who HIS own self bare our sins in HIS own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes we were healed.

Christ delivered mankind's person of flesh. If we chose to continue in sin, then we remain hanging on the tree, unable to die. That is why we have the Baptism, and the putting on of Christ, gifted by the spiritual idenity of the Holy Spirit. To die, and to be buried in Christ. The inward man is born and the outward man who can't please God is dead.

Christ set free the flesh body, no longer in bondage to be a servant to sin. The gift of grace is given by the hand of God





Speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit.If it is a gift then we cannot talk about an ability of any kind because nobody gives something to someone if that someone already has it.It is a gift meaning there is no possible way to gain this by any kind of ability except by accepting the offering.

Agree, by the power and glory of God, in accordance to HIS will, we are gifted/given the Holy Spirit in aid to our conscience speaking goodness toward God.

1 Peter 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ




To discern who is really baptized by the Holy Spirit do not go after the gifts but after the fruit.If the person produces good fruit then the Holy Spirit is in that person because no bad tree can produce good fruit.You will see many gifted persons not bearing good fruit and from those depart and stay away!
So it is not what I have to testify who I am, but what I do with it!

Agree

~In Christ

I agree with adam that the fruit is what is of great importance.
Good fruit comes from a good tree or vine and it is harvested by many.
Through the Holy Spirit we Christians can produce good fruit for all to harvest.
It is also an important way to bring others to Christ for they can gather at our tree or vine to harvest our fruit.
Christianity is supposed to be a religion of attraction not of conquest or of threat or fear of bodily harm as some are.
So we should pray to the Holy Spirit for guidance and inspiration to help us produce good attractive fruit.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Why do people always assume speaking in tongues is the best gift ever ? It's the first thing they ever come out with ? Why ? Why ? Oh why ? Lol
Yes speaking in tongues is a beautifull gift but personally would I want it reallllyyy ? Ermm no
There are many gifts... if you receive the holy spirit you receive its guidance which to me is the best, it could want you to be a doctor a painter it makes you REALISE the gift you already have as well as giving you one if needed, if your after gifts then good luck because I dout ull get one lol
People say to be I have to be baptised with holy water to receive the holy spirit... ermm do I ? I have not but I received jesus into my life and I received the holy spirit I feel it... like wind breezing on me, feeling, and things that just come into my head like sentences or actions, and at night feel a blanket of warmth being wrapped around...
And did you know in those days the meaning of receiving gifts from the holy spirit actually means CHARISMA lol xxx

amazingsmile,
First of all I am one of many who does NOT "assume speaking in tongues is the best gift ever".
Really I believe that very few people now days get that gift and most of those that claim it are charlatans.
Speaking in tongues was done as the bible records so that people of many different languages could understand what was said.
We no not see that happening today.
Secondly we do receive the Holy Spirit in more ways than in baptism, but through baptism the Holy Spirit abides in us whicj may not be the case in other ways.
Peace and kindness,
Fred.

In 1Cor. 12:3-6, So I want you to understand that no one who is speaking with the help of God's Spirit says, "Jesus be cursed." And no one can say, "Jesus is Lord without the
Help of the Holy Spirit.
4. There are different kinds of gifts, but they are from the same Spirit. 5. There are
Different ways to sereve but the same Lord to serve. 6. And there are different ways that God works through people but the same God.God works in all of us in everything we do.
1Cor.14:4 The one who speaks in different languages are helping only themsellves, but those who prophesy are helping the whole church.
1Cor. 14:27 When you meet together, if anyone speaks in a different language, it should
Be only be two, or not more than three who speak. They should speak one after the other, and someone else should interpreter, But if there is no interpreter, then those who speak in a different language should be quiet in the church meeting. They should only speak
To themselves and to God.
1Cor 14:18&19, I thank God that I speak in different kinds of languages more than all of
You. But in the church meetings I would rather speak five words I understand in order
To teach other than thousands of words in a different language.

I speak in tongues and it helps me, but I do not interpret We should pray for gifts
That build up the church and helps others, that's what we are here for.

Blessings, Maggie 3

Maggie 3,
Yes, helping others IS what we are here for. It is the fruit we can produce that others can harvest.
It is the job of some others to help us with their fruit, but we should not be disappointed if some people are not helpful.
Rather that should be a lesson to us to be as helpful as we can be.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Fred your are right, We serve the Lord in Love for one another, the greatest gift
Of all. God intends that we grow in grace together. We are to learn about Him together.
WE are to serve others together, because unity of the heart and action best shows the power of God's love.

Blessing, Maggie 3

Maggie 3,
Yes and please note the following...
Gospel text (Lc 17:7-10): Jesus said to his disciple, «Who among you would say to your servant coming in from the fields after plowing or tending sheep: 'Come at once and sit down at table?'. No, you tell him: 'Prepare my dinner. Put on your apron and wait on me while I eat and drink; you can eat and drink afterwards'. Do you thank this servant for doing what you commanded? So for you. When you have done all that you have been told to do, you must say: 'We are no more than servants; we have only done our duty'».
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As servants of our Lord we should do our duty without expecting a reward.
We only do our duty with love.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

1. The Holy Spirit is not a person. Its God's active force given by God to humans.
2. Many people FAKE speking in tounges. But some do really speak in tounges - speaking in tounges is of the Holy Spirit, and it edifies the church
3. Anyone who produces the fruits of the Holy Spirit - Joy, love, peace... etc etc etc are baptised with the HS!

Maggie 3,
So for you. When you have done all that you have been told to do, you must say: 'We are no more than servants; we have only done our duty'».

I trust a different intrepretation of this scripture. It says in (Luke 17:10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

The unprofitable servant is spoken of in (Matthew 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. )

Because we do our duty and trust in God giving the abundance of fruit. We continue to share all that we have with others, or we are unprofitable servants.

The entire message of (LUKE 17:7-10) was in response to the apostles request of more faith. To answer, faith, and duty we understand how we receive abundantly when we do our duty. It is not just given with no intention of it's using or growing. The fruit is not given to any that stand to profit nothing in it.




As servants of our Lord we should do our duty without expecting a reward.
We only do our duty with love.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

As servants of our Lord we do trust in HIS abundant mercy and grace. And we avoid foolishness that is unprofitable and vain.

Hebrew 13:21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

~in Christ

Yes, the Holy Spirit is one of the three persons in the triune God.
No, being able to speak in a language a person has not studied could be from other sources than the Holy Spirit.
I believe than many who claim to be speaking in tongues today are being deceptive.
The original speaking in tongues was by the apostles who were speaking to a group of people who spoke different languages.
It was done so that the listeners could understand what was being said.
Today several of those who claim to be speaking in tongues rattle on in a bunch of gibberish that no one understands.
Few, if any, speak to a group of people who speak different languages.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

The Holy Spirit:

> Is it a person?
If you believe the Bible; NO
If you believe religions; it is any number of things.

The Holy Spirit only started to be discussed several hundred years after the Bible was written when man tried to squeeze his philosophy into the teachings of the Bible.

As far as what can be taken from the Bible, the holy spirit is simply the power of God.

> Does ability to speak with great emotion in a tongue that a person never studied prove that he has God’s spirit?

Not at all; even in biblical times you were not to speak in a tongue unless there was an interpreter around. These days the ‘speaking in tongues’ that they carry on about is not even understood by the speaker.

Speaking in tongues back then was to allow the Jews to travel to toher lands and teach the Word of God to people of other races and countries that spoke different tongues; nothing more, nothing less.

It was back then, and I would have to say even now, a sign from God if an English speaking Bible teacher began speaking fluent Japanese to group of Japanese speaking people.

So, I would hazard to say that false witnesses of God started spreading the word that speaking in tongues is not meant to be translated by man and a babbling possessed person is actually proof of ones devotion to God and acceptance from him.

> Who is baptized with holy spirit?

Everyone I suppose; it is just that the holy spirit is the power of God and not a person or a spirit.

I Newton,
I disagree with you about the Holy Spirit. He is spoken of very early in the Old Testament. The Hebrew word that itentifies Him is "rauch" which means spirit.
There are many references about the Holy Spirit in the bible and Jesus clearly identifies who He is but name and as "the advocate" and the author of life.
He is the third person of the Holy Trinity who is the Yahweh, the one true and only holy God.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

God's holy spirit was of course mentioned early in the Bible as you cannot mention God without referring to his power.

The trinity is never mentioned in the Bible and was not mentioned even in the church for several hundred years after the first century christens died off.

For a few hundred years after the first century christens died off the debate was only about two figures, Yahweh and Jesus while nothing was mention about the so-called third one.

As it is not in the Bible and the Jews never considered a thing as a polytheistic god, you can rule it out as a biblical teaching. (Especially if it something so crucial to Christian belief)

When you read the Bible with no influence from religion, you can plainly see that nothing of the sort exists.

There are probably a dozen vague scriptures that can be twisted around to make it fit some kind of idea of a trinity, but with so a large collection of writings as the Bible, they will obviously find something to back up any claim, hence the 2000 different religions making money off the Bible.

Anyone can believe the Trinity if they so wish, but it is not a teaching of the Bible or a belief ever entertained by the Jewish people.

Jesus said: the apostles and I are one just as the Father and I are one.
The apostles are in union with me just as I am in union with my father.

The apostles do not make up the rest of God; there are not 15 gods making up Yahweh.

I Newton,
In the Bible Jesus indicates that The Holy Spirit is the third person in the Trinity of God almighty.
I believe the bible and Jesus.
Enough said,
Fred

The Holy Spirit:

> Is it a person?
If you believe the Bible; NO
If you believe religions; it is any number of things.

As far as what can be taken from the Bible, the holy spirit is simply the power of God.

> Does ability to speak with great emotion in a tongue that a person never studied prove that he has God’s spirit?


> Who is baptized with holy spirit?

Everyone I suppose; it is just that the holy spirit is the power of God and not a person or a spirit.
You are quite wrong on a number of counts even in the Old Testament there is reference to being filled with the Spirit but not everyone is baptised in the Holy Spirit. Scripture makes it plain the Holy Spirit is a person and a separate person otherwise how is it possible to grieve the Holy Spirit independently from Jesus.
Speaking in tongues has a number of purposes and this is explained in Scripture it is not solely to communicate in an unlearned earthly language,
Speaking in tongues edifies the believer, that is it provides wisdom and knowledge the believer did not previously possess. Speaking in tongues allows us to pray about a situation when we don't know what to pray and it has power. It also enables us to bring forth prophecy and to interpret that prophecy. It also enables us to lift our praise and worship to a different level.
Speaking in tongues is an initial indication of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, it is actually the least of the giftings

Please stop speaking about the Holy Spirit and the Gifts in ignorance

May you be filled with the spirit of Christmas and the spirit of the world and the spirit of the law and the spirit of love and the spirit of...

As for your explanation of tongues, none of that is in the Bible, so I cannot comment.

May you be filled with the spirit of Christmas and the spirit of the world and the spirit of the law and the spirit of love and the spirit of ...

As for your explanation of tongues, none of that is in the Bible, so I cannot comment.

The only Spirit I wish to be filled with is the HOLY SPIRIT, I suggest you begin reading Scripture about The Holy Spirit. Paul has excellent explanations in the letters to the Corinthians. You need to do the study I am not going to provide it for you.

You talk much about what is not in Scripture yet you give me a worldly answer. It is time for you to speak about what is in Scripture, not what isn't

paraclete,
Well said,
Fred