tomder55
Feb 21, 2008, 09:46 AM
The Clintonistas are setting up a new web site to announce how they intend to change the Democrat nominating rules .
Delegate Hub (http://www.delegatehub.com/)
The Politico is also reporting that Evita's trying to get delegates who Obama legitimately secured in the primaries/caucus process to switch their commitment to her .
Clinton targets pledged delegates - Roger Simon - Politico.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html)
What? Isn’t that impossible? A pledged delegate is pledged to a particular candidate and cannot switch, right?
Wrong.
Pledged delegates are not really pledged at all, not even on the first ballot. This has been an open secret in the party for years, but it has never really mattered because there has almost always been a clear victor by the time the convention convened.
That's right Dems your votes DON'T Count !
“I swear it is not happening now, but as we get closer to the convention, if it is a stalemate, everybody will be going after everybody’s delegates,” a senior Clinton official told me Monday afternoon. “All the rules will be going out the window.”
But not really... DNC rules and memos confirm that the Clinton pusch is consistent with party rules
Pledged delegates reflect the preferences of the voters, but are not actually legally bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged for.
Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_ primaries%2C_2008#Pledged_delegates)
And the DNC confirmed this in a memo :
Delegates are NOT bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the convention or on the first ballot. A delegate goes to the convention with a signed pledge of support for a particular presidential candidate. At the convention, while it is assumed that the delegate will cast their vote for the candidate they are publicly pledged to, it is not required
Hotline On Call: The Rules (http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/the_rules.html)
So there you have it. It is within Evita's right to subvert the will of the voters on the most basic level so don't expect her to hang it up until her machine roughs up some of the Obama committed delegates first .
Al Sharpton has already warned that there would be demonstrations if there was a perception that Obama was being denied :
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/02142008/news/nationalnews/al__wed_picket_dem_hq_97565.htm
For those of you who see simularities between now and 1968 . There you have it. Riots outside and floor fights dominated the Democrat convention then . Let's hope cooler heads prevail .
Delegate Hub (http://www.delegatehub.com/)
The Politico is also reporting that Evita's trying to get delegates who Obama legitimately secured in the primaries/caucus process to switch their commitment to her .
Clinton targets pledged delegates - Roger Simon - Politico.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html)
What? Isn’t that impossible? A pledged delegate is pledged to a particular candidate and cannot switch, right?
Wrong.
Pledged delegates are not really pledged at all, not even on the first ballot. This has been an open secret in the party for years, but it has never really mattered because there has almost always been a clear victor by the time the convention convened.
That's right Dems your votes DON'T Count !
“I swear it is not happening now, but as we get closer to the convention, if it is a stalemate, everybody will be going after everybody’s delegates,” a senior Clinton official told me Monday afternoon. “All the rules will be going out the window.”
But not really... DNC rules and memos confirm that the Clinton pusch is consistent with party rules
Pledged delegates reflect the preferences of the voters, but are not actually legally bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged for.
Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_ primaries%2C_2008#Pledged_delegates)
And the DNC confirmed this in a memo :
Delegates are NOT bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged to at the convention or on the first ballot. A delegate goes to the convention with a signed pledge of support for a particular presidential candidate. At the convention, while it is assumed that the delegate will cast their vote for the candidate they are publicly pledged to, it is not required
Hotline On Call: The Rules (http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/the_rules.html)
So there you have it. It is within Evita's right to subvert the will of the voters on the most basic level so don't expect her to hang it up until her machine roughs up some of the Obama committed delegates first .
Al Sharpton has already warned that there would be demonstrations if there was a perception that Obama was being denied :
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/02142008/news/nationalnews/al__wed_picket_dem_hq_97565.htm
For those of you who see simularities between now and 1968 . There you have it. Riots outside and floor fights dominated the Democrat convention then . Let's hope cooler heads prevail .