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imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:03 AM
Lately I've been trying to write songs...
But nothing comes out... I can't seem to be.. something..
Anyone who writes music or poetry will know what I mean
I feel that there is so much inside me waiting to come out, I just know there is!
But I need a tap shoved into my heart to let these emotions out and harness them with music but I just... don't know how to do it
For some people things like this come so easily,
What I'm asking is how can I express myself in what I write?
How can I get what's inside me, outside on paper?

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:05 AM
Have you written lyrics for songs before now?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:20 AM
Mmm, no not really, I usually get frustrated because its not working lol

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:26 AM
What is it about it that's not working, please?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:27 AM
Well its like everything is flowing in my head but for some reason I never get lyrics out of it... its not that I'm trying to rhyme things cause that doesn't matter... I'm drawing blanks so to speak

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:29 AM
Do you mean that words are flowing in your head?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:30 AM
No I mean I think too much about how I feel that I can't be succinct enough... I could have just said that but again I had trouble expressing what I really meant hahaha how relevant

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:32 AM
Are you in love with someone? And, if so, have you ever written letters to that person expressing how you feel about them? I'm just trying to get a "feel" as to where you are at here.

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:34 AM
Nah I'm not in love, I'm a little lonely but who isn't. I actually think I'm falling for a girl I know is no good for me but the fact that we've both been on and off liking each other for 6 years is telling me to stick with it for some reason.. even though I tell myself if something does happen ill hate it and be in another dogey relationship I want to get out of

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:36 AM
But, have you ever written letters expressing how you feel about another person?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:37 AM
Yeah for sure, ex gf's and what not

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:39 AM
Thanks! So, what are some of the things that you would like to write about in your songs? Also, do you play a musical instrument of any kind?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:42 AM
Yeah I play guitar and piano (not as much piano but enough for a basic bass part and chord progression, a little appeggio if I feel the need)

I'd say how I felt about the girl at the time, I am blessed with the gift of being too charming for my own good (friends tell me I could charm the fleas off a dogs back... not that I would)

I don't know whether I actually felt what I wrote or if I was being romantic to make them feel good and what not...

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:46 AM
So, are you saying that you would like to write a song about a girl that you like now or have liked in the past? I find it much easier to compose songs when I am going toward the love mode with someone. I also play a little guitar and a lot of piano, as well as compose, improvise and arrange music, by the way.

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:49 AM
I don't really want to write a song about her, besides that the only emotions I'm feelings are just vacant and empty. And that's even harder to write about!


Woot 200th post!

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 02:54 AM
Then, how about we compose a song about the vacancy that you feel in your heart? Is that something that you might like to do?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 02:57 AM
Um.. sure. It might give me a bit of insight of how its done and yeah, where do we start?

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:00 AM
I would suggest that we compose something very simple that you could also play and sing at the same time. It wouldn't be hard. I could even compose the first line of words if you would like. I have a scanner and could even post the notes as well as the chords on this site. What do you think?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 03:03 AM
Um it might be easier if you tell me the chords your playing and I will be able to figure out the tempo and changes, I'm pretty good with my ears but I'm not that fantastic at reading music.

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:07 AM
What can you read as far as music is concerned? Can you read a simple melody in the treble clef that has only quarter notes, half notes and eighth notes in it?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 03:08 AM
Yeah I can do that

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:11 AM
Good!

Then how about the following for a first line of words?

"My heart it feels so lonely."

What do you think?

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 03:13 AM
Sounds accurate, if a little cliché, but that's not the point of our exercise, I like it. We should go with it

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:20 AM
Then, how about you write the second line to go along with the first one? I am thinking of 4/4 time and the lines basically being eight beats long. I know that it would be helpful to see some printed music for this, and I will be providing that. But, for now, I'm hoping to communicate some things to you by just using words. It's 4:17 A.M. where I am now.

Do you know the C and G7 chords on both the guitar and the piano? If so, what other chords do you know? We need to establish an appropriate key for the piece. Thanks!

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 03:29 AM
I know all chords on the guitar (exception being all the add9add11 and completely obscure stuff) and on piano its easy to figure out the chords everything is right in front of you so that's no trouble at all.

If its 4:17 am go to bed! Lol don't stay up on account of us doing this, ill work on this more and PM you what I've written before I log off if you like.

Second line.
My heart it feels so lonely
It feels it needs you here
But my head knows much better
... something... haha that's OK

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:36 AM
I think that you've definitely got the right idea here! ;) What you have continued with as far as the lyrics fitting metrically with the beat is perfect! Please keep at it! There is no need to private message me when you have written more words because I will know when you have posted more to this thread. I will show you how to do the rest at a later time then. Okay? :)

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 03:37 AM
Okay then, thanks for giving me.. lets say eccential motivation. I appreciate it greatly :)

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:44 AM
No problem! My pleasure! I rarely run into people on this site who are into the same things that I am. I'll talk to you again soon! Okay? Good night, good morning or whatever it is for you! :)

imation
Feb 13, 2008, 03:44 AM
8.45 at night actually. Cya

Clough
Feb 13, 2008, 03:47 AM
;)

hauser5
Feb 13, 2008, 08:08 AM
My suggestion is to just write what you are feeling no matter what it is, just write it all down, even if all you do is write all day long and it's not really a song or poem. Just write down what you see around you and what is happening or what you are thinking about. On a later day or time, you may just be able to read over it and get ideas from it. I have stacks of "unfinished" ideas. I have many times come back to those stacks and used something from it. I am very picky about my lyrics, so I end up with a whole lot more unfinished works than finished ones. You could also type it, but I always resort back to handwriting. I regret destroying some of my original lyrics now (I transferred them to my computer)