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N0help4u
Feb 7, 2008, 07:07 PM
Where is the common sense and justice?

LAKE WORTH, Fla. -- The State Attorney's Office will decide whether to charge two teens who admit they robbed a 9-year-old Girl Scout selling cookies outside of a Lake Worth supermarket.

"I thought that it was a really mean thing to do, and I was sad after," Girl Scout Gracie Smith told WPBF News 25.

Authorities said that a 17-year-old girl in a hot-pink sweatshirt approached Smith outside of a Winn-Dixie supermarket at Hypoluxo and Jog roads in Lake Worth Wednesday evening and asked the girl what her favorite cookies were. Police told WPBF that, while Smith was telling the teen about her favorite Cinna-Spins, the teen snatched an envelope containing about $164 off Smith's table, hopped into another teen's car and drove away.
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Smith told WPBF that she turned to her mother in tears, saying, "Mommy! That girl took all my money!"

Authorities said they caught up with the 17-year-old girl Thursday and pulled her out of class at Park Vista High School, where she allegedly confessed to the crime, WPBF reported. Investigators said the girl's female accomplice, another a Park Vista student, also confessed.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office said that the case has been handed over to the State Attorney's Office to determine if charges will be filed against the teens.

Smith's mother, Charlene Rubenstrunk, told WPBF that the girls returned to the store Thursday to taunt her daughter.

"They are within 10 feet of the same kid they just robbed last night and there is nothing anybody can do about it. I find that offensive," Rubenstrunk said.

The girls, whose names are not being released because they are minors, told WPBF that they were not remorseful for the crime, and that they did it because they "needed money."

"We went through all that effort to get it, we got all these charges and we had to give the money back. I'm kind of pissed," one of the girls told WPBF.

The other girl told WPBF that she was upset because police found them.

"I'm not sorry, I'm just pissed that I got caught," the girl said.

Money collected from the cookie sales were supposed to go toward Smith's sleep-over trip with Troop 664 to the Miami Seaquarium. Police were unable to recover the stolen money, but a father of one of the teens accused in the crime paid the money back to Smith's mother, WPBF reported.

Authorities said the teens were not charged because they did not use force to steal the money, nor did they take the money from the Girl Scout's hands.

The State Attorney's Office will decide if the teens will be charged.

The Winn-Dixie supermarket is donating $200 to the troop, WPBF reported.

----------What I heard on the radio
The girls were not remorseful
They were made that they got caught and have charges
Said they worked hard to take that money and it isn't fair TO THEM

Police say they can't find something to charge the girls with because force was not used
And they didn't take the money out of the girl scouts hands.


WHAT ever happened to a plain old "it wasn't yours so it is stealing" charge?

Does that mean anybody can just pick up money sitting out and it is okay.
Heck I could get rich at the flea market and yard sales if I am allowed to just pick up somebody else's money because it isn't in their hands.

twinkiedooter
Feb 7, 2008, 07:15 PM
The State's Attorney's office personnel apparently flunked the course about theft in law school. Happens all the time.

Up here in Ohio I had my car a stolen a few years ago along with a lot of household items (some expensive) and the State's Attorney's office didn't charge the perps with a crime as they couldn't find where a crime was committed. No, I did not make that up either. I was furious to put it mildly. Apparently they don't go to law school up here either. Car, cookies, money, it's all the same to them... they didn't see it, it didn't happen so don't bother us anymore and go away.

N0help4u
Feb 7, 2008, 07:23 PM
Yeah I hear you.
I hear the police all the time say we didn't see the tires get slashed, we didn't see the window get cracked, we didn't see the yard get trashed so nothing we can do.
My neighbor bounced a bunch of checks and ran up some credit cards, *bought* three vehicles which all got repo-ed because of bad checks, got three dui's and smacked his kids around
All in June and July -spent three weeks in jail and is on house arrest -still manages to go to the bar and has under aged parties. The police KNOW what is going on but they can't PROVE anything.

twinkiedooter
Feb 7, 2008, 08:04 PM
Why should they? They'd have to put down their donut and write out a report.

N0help4u
Feb 7, 2008, 08:24 PM
Why should they? They'd have to put down their donut and write out a report.

And they might get greasy powdered sugar fingerprints on it

Hmmm makes perfect sense to me!

My daughters bf's car was stolen (Warren Oh) a couple years ago they found it abandoned in a warehouse parking lot and vandalized.

oneguyinohio
Feb 7, 2008, 08:54 PM
Thank goodness that parent was willing to repay the little girl. I'm not one to say that spanking is the right thing to do, but I hope that father has some creative ideas for making that girl wish he had just blistered her hiney! I'd put her little self out there to earn at least three times as much money with the sole purpose of donating it to the troop!

Even if they don't get punished by the police, I hope the parent has a lesson for them!

No-Tyme
Feb 7, 2008, 09:00 PM
You guys think you have it bad? Watch this video...

Video on Demand | wkyc.com (http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=53707&sid=82447&bw=hi&cat=2)

:eek:

CaptainRich
Feb 7, 2008, 09:12 PM
You guys think you have it bad? Watch this video...

Video on Demand | wkyc.com (http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=53707&sid=82447&bw=hi&cat=2)

:eek:
That link didn't load...

Greg Quinn
Feb 7, 2008, 09:35 PM
You guys think you have it bad? Watch this video...

Video on Demand | wkyc.com (http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=53707&sid=82447&bw=hi&cat=2)

:eek:
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Things like that happen in Canada too. I am sickened by that video! I hope she gets a million for that humiliating assault.

Greg Quinn
Feb 7, 2008, 09:39 PM
Thank goodness that parent was willing to repay the little girl. I'm not one to say that spanking is the right thing to do, but I hope that father has some creative ideas for making that girl wish he had just blistered her hiney! I'd put her little self out there to earn at least three times as much money with the sole purpose of donating it to the troop!

Even if they don't get punished by the police, I hope the parent has a lesson for them!
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I just hope they get community service, and have to sell girl guide cookies for a year.

oneguyinohio
Feb 7, 2008, 09:52 PM
That video incident happened fairly close to where I am at... been hearing a lot about it...

She'll have her day in court, as will the police, and I'm sure I'll hear about it, as it gets a lot of radio time...

They've said she was a victim of assault to begin with, gave her dead sister's identification, and became angry, defiant, or combative with police... I'm curious to hear if she was drunk or under influence of any drugs at all? I'm not 100% convinced that we have seen or heard the entire story... With only what has been revealed thus far, it looks like the police messed up...

This is the same area where a police officer is on trial for killing his pregnant girl friend and leaving a child at home alone.

FOXNews.com - Bobby Cutts Jr. Ordered Held on $5M Bond for Murder of Pregnant Girlfriend Jessie Davis, Unborn Baby - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286560,00.html)

Those courtrooms are going to busy for quite some time...

simoneaugie
Feb 7, 2008, 10:27 PM
We pretty much are dependent on the media to tell us what happened. They are selling commercial time, so truth, telling it straight up and completeness are low on their list of priorities.

It is not just a media, police, lawmaker, bad parent, bad kid problem. The flippant attitude of wrong-doers is rewarded/ignored because it's easier than getting involved. The trouble has to do with all of us.

We are all looking for the same things, but we are not demanding honesty and restitution. We are not voting for those who are willing to make a stand for all. Are we just voting for those who know how to work the media to make themselves look and sound good?

tomder55
Feb 8, 2008, 04:56 AM
Too bad the girl scouts weren't carrying tazers .

No-Tyme
Feb 8, 2008, 05:26 AM
That link didn't load....

?? Works for me. Anyone else have this problem?? :confused:

N0help4u
Feb 8, 2008, 04:34 PM
They will probably get off so easy they think it was fun enough to do it again and be doing serious time within the next 10 to 15 years. My guess the way the world is going lately