There is a stigmata-bearer in California. Visit here for more information:

Blessed Tiffany

http://www.tiffanysnow.com/

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

It is interesting to read about those who have stigmata. But I am not buying the book. I do not deny that she could have the real stigmata. Is her title of "blessed" one that she gave herself, others gave her, or has been bestowed upon her by the Holy See?

It is interesting to read about those who have stigmata. But I am not buying the book. I do not deny that she could have the real stigmata. Is her title of "blessed" one that she gave herself, others gave her, or has been bestowed upon her by the Holy See?

I believe the title "blessed" concerning her stigmata was brought about through God's Divine Intervention as is appropriate for anyone who has the stigmata. I am not Catholic, therefore, I do not believe that in any other than Catholic circles the Pope is the one to confer the title "Blessed" to a person. A person is blessed by God when great miracles occur in their life such as what has happened to Blessed Tiffany and the title rightfully distinguishes her from one who has not received the stigmata.

Go to the following page to learn more about Blessed Tiffany's stigmata. Look especially in the third yellow highlighted section and you will find a sentence that should explain what you are trying to learn. You will also see her hands swollen from this miraculous experience. She is currently experiencing stigmata.

http://www.tiffanysnow.com/page3.html

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I believe the title "blessed" concerning her stigmata was brought about through God's Divine Intervention How did this intervention occur?

How did this intervention occur?

Excellent question! The moment a person can explain to mankind how the stigmata (Christ's puncture wounds) and his stripes can appear on one of His creations, other than it being through Divine Intervention, then we will know differently.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

Then I guess it's a little hasty to call it divine intervention.

Then I guess it's a little hasty to call it divine intervention.

Not at all. We will perhaps never know how the Lord Our God works. He just does and what He does has to be accepted in Faith by those who Believe.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

Not at all. We will perhaps never know how the Lord Our God works. He just does and what He does has to be accepted in Faith by those who Believe.


I think what needkarma might be getting at is that there's at least one way to get stigmata that is significantly easier to believe than divine intervention.

I think what needkarma might be getting at is that there's at least one way to get stigmata that is significantly easier to believe than divine intervention.

To remove all doubt, and since I obviously am not a spokesperson for Blessed Tiffany since her experience is a very personal one, let all those who are still skeptical about her stigmata go direct to the stigmata-bearer, Blessed Tiffany, and ask her directly about it. Information on how to reach her (including e-mail and a toll-free number) is at the following page. I, for one, would be interested in having you report back to us on her reply.

http://www.tiffanysnow.com/page24.html

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

I'm confused as to how stigmata bestow superpowers upon the person.

It's also very telling that in order to see the "studies" into her "distant healing", you have to buy her book.
Why wouldn't she want these to be seen for free?

By calling God "The Big Guy", is she trying to hint that she and God are pals? Buddies?

It stinks of woo-woo and scam to me.

I'm confused as to how stigmata bestow superpowers upon the person.

It's also very telling that in order to see the "studies" into her "distant healing", you have to buy her book.
Why wouldnt she want these to be seen for free?

By calling God "The Big Guy", is she trying to hint that she and God are pals? buddies?

It stinks of woo-woo and scam to me.

You refer to "superpowers" in reference to the Stigmata. I don't believe they are superpowers other than God's anointing and blessing the person of His choice to receive the stigmata. If certain gifts and abilities follow along with the Stigmata, then certainly there can be no doubt it is a gift from God as healing through God is a gift and not a superpower.

About the distant healing, I do not find where one would have to buy the book other than it contains information perhaps too voluminous to be included on her website. Please see the referenced page below for more information on this.

http://www.tiffanysnow.com/page11.html

About the term "Big Guy", I believe it may be purely personal preference. Some people who are more colloquial may use terminology that they simply prefer to use but one must remember that God obviously gave her her abilities, and no matter how close one would want to be with God in order to receive those gifts if God did not wish to bestow them upon a certain person they would not have the gifts. Therefore, it is your personal take on the wording she uses.

I would not be so quick as to use derogatory words such as "scam" and "woo-woo" without first contacting her personally as I suggested before, and ask her what you are asking here. That way, she or her assistants could answer your questions and you would not have to resort to name-calling of anotherwise good servant that God chose to do His work.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

anotherwise good servant that God chose to do His work. What work is she doing for the big guy?

You refer to "superpowers" in reference to the Stigmata. I don't believe they are superpowers other than God's anointing and blessing the person of His choice to receive the stigmata. If certain gifts and abilities follow along with the Stigmata, then certainly there can be no doubt it is a gift from God as healing through God is a gift and not a superpower.

Is the ability to make money from people's insecurities and gullibility a "gift from God" too?

BTW, you don't need to put your signature in every message, it's a signature, it automatically appears at the end of every message without you typing it.

I don't often agree with NK and Capuchin, but this time I am making an exception!

Stigmata can be faked - there is enough proof to that. A person who has genuine stigmata is not out there making money off their gift. St. Francis of Assisi was a stigmatic and I never read where he made a dollar from his stigmata.

I can understand where a non-Catholic can have this. It is just when someone gives themselves the title "blessed" the skeptic in me comes out very strong. I would never call this Tiffany and pay for her wisdom.

I read through her site. Sorry. I don't buy it. If she is truly a stigmatic, she and others are trying to make a fast buck off it.

Can you hear the cash register? I am with you, WG. Just do not buy into this one.

And so if I buy her book and send donations for healing and am not healed, then what? According to what I read, my faith is too weak.

This sounds like The Secret and The Power of Now.

And so if I buy her book and send donations for healing and am not healed, then what? According to what I read, my faith is too weak.

This sounds like The Secret and The Power of Now.

That has been the problem for many in this world. Their faith is too weak and even those who went before Jesus to be healed were not because of their lack of faith. That has caused the downfall of many.

"And He saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then He arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm." -- MATTHEW 8:26 (KJV)

Absolutely no one is being forced to buy the book or go for services. Each person has their own free will to do as they so choose.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

[B]That has been the problem for many in this world. Their faith is too weak and even those who went before Jesus to be healed were not because of their lack of faith. That has caused the downfall of many.

Or just being on the unlucky side of the statistics? :)

That has been the problem for many in this world. Their faith is too weak

That's very unBiblical.

So my faith in HER as a healer is what is too weak?

Stigmata can be faked - there is enough proof to that. A person who has genuine stigmata is not out there making money off of their gift. St. Francis of Assisi was a stigmatic and I never read where he made a dollar from his stigmata.

I can understand where a non-Catholic can have this. It is just when someone gives themselves the title "blessed" the skeptic in me comes out very strong. I would never call this Tiffany and pay for her wisdom.

It is incredible that a group such as you would try to cast stones at one who professes God and His work right on her website. And about St. Francis, yes, he was a holy person who was meek yet powerful in his ways. But one must remember that in those days Friars, which St. Francis was, would usually live in the church and had food and shelter provided for them. Today, a person with stigmata is usually not that fortunate. In order to help others they must surely charge for their time, not for the spiritual healing services. If they did not, they would have to work elsewhere and thereby deny those who went seeking their services. By the way, Blessed Tiffany set up a center in order to help people and guess what? That costs money. Plenty of money. But then I am sure most of you have never heard of famous preachers who also ask for money in order to continue their ministry and reach across the globe with their spiritual services, have you?

Even in a church, a collection box is passed each time a service is held. If it were not that way, the priests or ministers could not possibly keep the church going as that is usually the only way by raising money to keep it afloat. So, let's put things in their proper perspective for a change.

And to make a correction, Blessed Tiffany says in her website that people often call her "Blessed". Therefore, it is a name that people, I'm sure after seeing her holy work, have decided is fitting and proper to call her. But again, there is no one forcing any of you to do anything you do not want to do. The information is simply there for your reading and consideration on the Internet.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

But then I am sure most of you have never heard of famous preachers who also ask for money in order to continue their ministry and reach across the globe with their spiritual services, have you?

Of course I have, I believe they are preying on the gullible too.

That's very unBiblical.

So my faith in HER as a healer is what is too weak?

I can now see that you obviously do not know that God is the only healer in all situations. You do not have to have faith in her but in the work that God does through her. Jesus (God in the Second Person of the Holy Trinity) is the actual healer. Again, I would ask you if you have ever seen an evangelist during a healing session? Do you believe it is he who is actually doing the healing or God through him? I feel you may very well believe it is the man rather than the Deity.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

I can now see that you obviously do not know that God is the only healer in all situations. You do not have to have faith in her but in the work that God does through her. Jesus (God in the Second Person of the Holy Trinity) is the actual healer. Again, I would ask you if you have ever seen an evangelist during a healing session? Do you believe it is he who is actually doing the healing or God through him? I feel you may very well believe it is the man rather than the Deity.

This is interesting, when we take medicine, is it God healing through the drugs?

I can now see that you obviously do not know that God is the only healer in all situations. You do not have to have faith in her but in the work that God does through her. Jesus (God in the Second Person of the Holy Trinity) is the actual healer. Again, I would ask you if you have ever seen an evangelist during a healing session? Do you believe it is he who is actually doing the healing or God through him? I feel you may very well believe it is the man rather than the Deity.

Sorry. You're barking up the wrong tree.

Of course, I know God is the One Who heals. He heals all the time, every day, even when we don't ask.

This is interesting, when we take medicine, is it God healing through the drugs?

Who do you think gave man the intelligence in the first place with which to make the drugs which assist in the healing process? Medicine comes from plants and herbs mostly. Who do you think creates the plants and herbs that heal? By that same token, who made the animals (that can provide for successful vaccines used in healing) and the ocean from where we can harvest many vitamins, food and drugs as well? It all comes from God.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

Sorry. You're barking up the wrong tree.



You opened that door.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

You opened that door.

No. All I said was that saying weak faith is the reason for lack of healing is unBiblical.

No. All I said was that saying weak faith is the reason for lack of healing is unBiblical.

Since you have said that and obviously believe that, let me prove you wrong with Biblical Scriptures.

"For by grace are ye saved through Faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God." -- Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)

".... Verily I say unto you, If ye have Faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed .... it shall be done." -- MATTHEW 21:21 (KJV)

"God hath dealt to every man the measure of Faith." -- ROMANS 12:3 (KJV)

"That your Faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God." -- 1 CORINTHIANS 2:5 (KJV)

"But without Faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must Believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him." -- HEBREWS 11:6 (KJV)

"Therefore being justified by Faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." -- ROMANS 5:1 (KJV)

"Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." -- HEBREWS 11:1 (KJV)

"Let us hold fast the profession of our Faith Without Wavering for he is faithful that promised" -- HEBREWS 10:23 (KJV)

"That the communication of thy Faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus." -- PHILEMON 6 (KJV)

"For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from Faith to Faith: as it is written, The just shall live by FAITH." -- ROMANS 1:17 (KJV)

But let me go a little further to show you the exact Scriptures that make it unequivocally known that without FAITH, one cannot heal.

"Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of FAITH Shall Save the Sick, and the Lord shall raise him up." -- JAMES 5:14-15 (KJV)

"And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve y ears, came behind Him (Jesus), and touched the hem of His garment: For she said within herself, if I may but touch His garment, I shall be whole. But Jesus turned him about and when He saw her, He said, Daughter, be of good comfort, THY FAITH HATH MADE THEE WHOLE." -- MATTHEW 9:20-22 (KJV)

"And when He was come into the house, the blind men came to Him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. Then touched He their eyes, saying, According to your FAITH be it unto you." -- MATTHEW 9:28-29 (KJV)

So, you can now put aside that notion that faith does not play an important role in healing. You can now plainly see that FAITH is the most important element in any healing. And it is indeed BIBLICAL!

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

So how do atheists and Hindus and Scientologists and Buddhists receive healing?

So how do atheists and Hindus and Scientologists and Buddhists receive healing?

Hi again, Wondergirl,

You ask a great question. The answer to your question is that many Christians throughout the world who know that there are many non-believers of Jesus thus, in the ONE and ONLY true God, get together regularly and pray for those who are lost in the world. They pray that even those who are God-less may not be forgotten and healed of their infirmities. That is what a true Christian is all about - praying for others because they are not of the same belief as they are. Jesus has given us a great example when He told us to "LOVE ONE ANOTHER" and when He sat with publicans and thiefs and ate with them. He did this not because they were an elite group, far from it, but so that they could learn about the power of God.

And so it is, that if we as Christians did not offer prayers around the world in every Christian church and prayer meeting for the lost in this world, God would not hear those prayers and the lost would stay lost. But the effect and power, in concerted effort, for a cause (to bring healing to the non-believer) who has no Faith in God, can work miracles! And indeed, Wondergirl, it DOES! That is why we see non-believers healed! There is great power in numbers when they pray to the ONE and ONLY God for others! To this end, we Christians will continue with our mission to help our fellow non-believing man when they don't have enough Faith to help themselves. Thank you so much for your question. I hope it has helped others to understand the power of Christian Prayer!

"But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in Heaven." -- MATTHEW 18:16-19 (KJV)

So, won't you join us now, Wondergirl, in prayer for the lost and un-believers in this world. Remember, when two or three are gathered in His (Jesus) name, there is He in the midst of us! He can and will continue to help the un-believer through His Divine miracles! Praise Be Jesus' Most Holy Name!


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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

So, won't you join us now, Wondergirl, in prayer for the lost and un-believers in this world. Remember, when two or three are gathered in His (Jesus) name, there is He in the midst of us! He can and will continue to help the un-believer through His Divine miracles! Praise Be Jesus' Most Holy Name!
And I will gather with some atheists and we will try to find a way to get you to atheism.

Have a great day.

NK.

So, won't you join us now, Wondergirl, in prayer for the lost and un-believers in this world.

No. I don't sit and pray. I take action.

Now, please answer my question about healing.

I just have to give this input on St. Francis of Assisi - he and his followers did not live in a church nor were they supported by a church. He and his followers toiled as labourers, even begging for work. What they got, they gave back to the poor. Often they lived in huts that they made of mud and thatch.

No. I don't sit and pray. I take action.

Now, please answer my question about healing.

I already have because that's the way it is. You evidently did not like the answer, therefore, you should go to God in prayer and ask in your heart why you would be so resistant.


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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

So how do atheists and Hindus and Scientologists and Buddhists receive healing?

This question.

I just have to give this input on St. Francis of Assisi - he and his followers did not live in a church nor were they supported by a church. He and his followers toiled as labourers, even begging for work. What they got, they gave back to the poor. Often they lived in huts that they made out of mud and thatch.

So, you know that for a fact I presume? Then there may be several stories around and that could be one of them. But assuming that was so, and with all due respect to St. Francis, in today's world it would have been very difficult for St. Francis to survive without the church's help. And if he lived in the U.S.A., being a foreigner and doing labor, he and his labourers would be the first to tell us that they would have most likely run into serious problems with the Immigration people, and the Health Dept. with their living quarters. Moral of the story is what may have been accepted then is not commonly accepted now due to the change in the times, state laws, and different ways of doing things.


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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

And I will gather with some atheists and we will try to find a way to get you to atheism.

Have a great day.

NK.

You need not even try as I am a proud Born Again Christian and my belief in God is the strongest ever! It is your free will choice to not believe as you so choose but there will always be others that may try to guide you lovingly when you enter into these religious discussion groups. May God Bless You.


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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

This question.

And once again, This Answer.

You (again) ask a great question. The answer to your question is that many Christians throughout the world who know that there are many non-believers of Jesus thus, in the ONE and ONLY true God, get together regularly and pray for those who are lost in the world. They pray that even those who are God-less may not be forgotten and healed of their infirmities. That is what a true Christian is all about - praying for others because they are not of the same belief as they are. Jesus has given us a great example when He told us to "LOVE ONE ANOTHER" and when He sat with publicans and thiefs and ate with them. He did this not because they were an elite group, far from it, but so that they could learn about the power of God.

And so it is, that if we as Christians did not offer prayers around the world in every Christian church and prayer meeting for the lost in this world, God would not hear those prayers and the lost would stay lost. But the effect and power, in concerted effort, for a cause (to bring healing to the non-believer) who has no Faith in God, can work miracles! And indeed, Wondergirl, it DOES! That is why we see non-believers healed! There is great power in numbers when they pray to the ONE and ONLY God for others! To this end, we Christians will continue with our mission to help our fellow non-believing man when they don't have enough Faith to help themselves. Thank you so much for your question. I hope it has helped others to understand the power of Christian Prayer!

"But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in Heaven." -- MATTHEW 18:16-19 (KJV)

So, won't you join us now, Wondergirl, in prayer for the lost and un-believers in this world. Remember, when two or three are gathered in His (Jesus) name, there is He in the midst of us! He can and will continue to help the un-believer through His Divine miracles! Praise Be Jesus' Most Holy Name!

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

So one does not have to be a Christian and have faith in order to receive healing.

Do you know, for an absolute fact, that this woman has genuine Stigmata? Or are you believing in her based on her website?

So one does not have to be a Christian and have faith in order to receive healing.

Wondergirl, when one is not a Christian nor has faith, God performs His miracles especially upon them to show them the Power of His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ! And when an unbeliever seems to be receiving more healing than others, it is because others who care and love that person are praying for them and God hears their prayers! Therefore, it is with sincere hope that people will at that moment See The Light and change from their previous un-believing ways. But know that not everyone will be healed. There will be those who are quite resistant to the Power of Christ and His Light in their life and thus, will remain with their infirmities unhealed due to their basic way of thinking. But He may thus, heal even those people also, simply because He created them too and Loves them even if they don't believe in Him at present. But there is a limit to everything and no one but God knows when the end of His mercy upon these people will be. But for those ready for change and who have sat on the fence for a long period of time contemplating which way to go and who finally want to know Jesus in their heart, He can truly Move Mountains (i.e., that which seems to be the impossible)! And many former un-believers have become Believers when they see the miracles that He performs in their lives!

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

But know that not everyone will be healed.

Nor even all the Bible-believing, God-loving Christians.

Do you know, for an absolute fact, that this woman has genuine Stigmata? Or are you believing in her based on her website?

Greetings shygrneyzs, If you are asking if I have met her personally and inspected her hands I can tell you that I do not live anywhere near her, however, anyone who has gone through the expense of building a center in order to Help people in need and whose hands clearly show them being swollen with the Stigmata and who asks openly for Prayers due to the pain the Stigmata causes (it generally lasts about three whole days), makes me believe that no one would spend that kind of time or money in order to help others unless they were sincere. And you don't often hear of people who are insincere asking for people to pray for them. There are just many things in her website that point to her Christianity such as Biblical verses that are quoted often and her belief in "The Big Guy" as she affectionately calls Him and the work she does for Him.

She is not a saint as I have not found anywhere on her website where she refers to herself as that. People, on the other hand, who have gone to her have started calling her "Blessed" due to the holy work she does. This is where belief in one of God's servants comes in. Just as no one has seen God yet many have Faith in Him because of what they see Him do in their lives each and every day that no other man ever could do and the oceans, trees, animals, human life, etc. that no human could make except God, people release their faith in things unseen because it rings true for them at a deeper level of being. Now, this fine lady is certainly not God, of course, but God does use many people to do His work on Earth such as spiritual healing, etc. and I do believe she is one of the chosen for this work. She has been a guest on many t.v. and radio programs and anyone interested in knowing if her stigmata is real should contact those places for further information. Again, I am not her spokesperson but feel strongly that she is very much on the level with what she says. And of course, what better opportunity than to actually go and visit her for those who live in California or are planning to go there, to ask her questions about her Stigmata and anything else they want to know about. She even gives directions to where she can be found on her website.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

however, anyone who has gone through the expense of building a center in order to Help people in need and whose hands clearly show them being swollen with the Stigmata and who asks openly for Prayers due to the pain the Stigmata causes (it generally lasts about three whole days), makes me believe that no one would spend that kind of time or money in order to help others unless they were sincere. ...She even gives directions to where she can be found on her website.
I can whip a convincing website in 15 minutes so that proves nothing. She has not built a center, it's a house across from a gas station: Google Maps (http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=202+West+4th+Ave.,+Escondido,+CA+92025&sll=45.96064,-66.63912&sspn=0.1747,0.458679&ie=UTF8&ll=33.117969,-117.081594&spn=0.003289,0.007167&t=h&z=18&iwloc=addr&om=0) (click on Street View). There are a lot of scammers and gullible people in this world - please be neither.

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But know that not everyone will be healed


Nor even all the Bible-believing, God-loving Christians.

Unfortunately, no, Wondergirl. Just because a person is a Christian does not automatically make them impervious to illness. Their Faith in God has to be strong and is often tested! Many fall short and thus fail that test therefore, their illness continues. Jesus once was sailing in a boat with His disciples when a bad tempest overcame them. The disciples became frightened and awoke Jesus who was sleeping and told Him to save them from the storm. Jesus replied "O, ye of little Faith!".

"And He saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then He arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm. But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him!" -- MATTHEW 8: 26-27 (KJV)

What Jesus was making reference to here is their lack of belief that with strong faith the storm, just like the "storms" in life could be made to go away. But He stood up, showing his mercy for the unbelievers and calmed the storm and His disciples were much relieved.

"And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord." -- LUKE 1:45 (KJV)

So it is with other Christians, since no one is perfect, people of all faiths have doubts and with doubt God's healing and immaculate perfection cannot be sustained in their body. For a body that doubts is a body that has not seen the Light of God. But many Christians have made their faith strong and thus, God helps those people and even calls them 'blessed' due to their belief in Him. One has to show God that they are worthy of His healing in their life in order to truly receive it. Those who deep down truly do not want it do not get it. That is why many remain very ill in hospitals and elsewhere and even pass on when they could very well be restored to health, but their lack of faith has caused their demise. Yet, it does not take a ton of faith either (just strong faith).

"And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you." -- MATTHEW 17:20 (KJV)

A grain of mustard seed is indeed very tiny but just look at the strength of that seed which can produce a mustard plant! Jesus indeed is merciful and will hear the prayers of others on their behalf and many times will move to heal them but when healing occurs, those who know where that healing comes from will Praise God and thus, their healing is sustained.

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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

I do definitely believe that healing is provided in the Atonement that Jesus Christ made. Basis for that kind of healing is found many places in the scripture. What I wonder is what Scriptural basis is there for stigmata? I have never read of it.

Stigmata fascinated me when I was in high school, so I did a long research paper on it. There is no Scriptural basis for stigmata. Most (but not all) of the stigmatics have been Catholic. None have charged for healing. Blessed Tiffany charges $95 (and more) per hour.

I do definitely believe that healing is provided in the Atonement that Jesus Christ made. Basis for that kind of healing is found many places in the scripture. What I wonder is what Scriptural basis is there for stigmata? I have never read of it.

I can say that during my research I have found that there are at least 63 saints who have been known to have Stigmata. Among them are St. Francis and Padre Pio. The word "stigmata" is not found in the Bible by that name though the wounds of Christ that He suffered on the cross at Calvary are irrefutable.

Let's let a friar address this question of yours concerning Scriptural basis in the following website.

a minor friar: Stigmata (http://friarminor.blogspot.com/2007/02/stigmata.html)


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God's Word is indeed *infallible*. It's man's mis-interpretation and re-interpretation of it that I am concerned about.

So, as some illnesses have better and better drugs developed for fighting them, does God favor healing people who take stronger drugs over people who are faithful to him?

On Sunday, there was a shooting at a mall in one of Chicago's southern suburbs. Six women were taken into a changing room, duct-taped, and shot in the head. One survived. Her mother told a newspaper reporter that God had intervened and saved her daughter.

I'm wondering why God didn't save the other women. And why did he save that particular one? Or did God intervene at all? Maybe the killer's aim was bad?

Wondergirl,
God is all-powerful, He must have wanted those women dead. All part of His great plan. That should provide all the comfort necessary for the families.

NK,
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

Wondergirl,
God is all-powerful, He must have wanted those women dead. All part of His great plan. That should provide all the comfort necessary for the families.

I'm sure you will be amazed to learn that our Creator turned this world over to Man who promptly turned it over to Satan. God does not control every thing that goes on in this world. Eventually, He will, but for now Man has his hand in everything up to the shoulder! God gets blamed for things that Man does. You just don't understand how thlings are.

You just don't understand how thlings are.

You missed the tongue-in-cheek part, Gal.

God does not control every thing that goes on in this world.

There's passive control and there's active control. Check what those terms mean in a Christian context.