In Santa Monica California, if a restaurant has marked ladies and mens rooms may a man use the ladies room if it is not occupied?

:eek: I don’t think so, you may find you self in a heap of trouble, I may be wrong, but if I walked in the ladies room and you were standing in it, well let just say it would not be nice. And I am by no means a nasty person, but I would be yelling. :eek:

I ask the question because I was waiting for the men's room and a bus boy at a restaurant saw the line and just headed in to the ladies room. I mentioned this to the hostess and she told me she didn't have a problem with it.

She may have not, but think about it, someone sends their little girl in to use the bathroom and you think no one is in there but they are, what would happen. I don't know what to tell you. I would have been highly upset, and like I said I am not a cranky person but I would taken offence to it.

Then she got something wrong with her. That's just rude. I hope someone beat his grapes in. THey oughta take him and tie him up by his feet and spin him around a few times till he gets dizzy and then throw their spiked heels at him.

I ask the question because I was waiting for the men's room and a bus boy at a restaurant saw the line and just headed in to the ladies room. I mentioned this to the hostess and she told me she didn't have a problem with it.

The better question is...

Why would you care? Further, why would go out of your way to get the busboy in trouble?

I will get around to answering your question as soon as I tackle all of the other ridiculous non-issues in my life such as: how to remove "under god" from the pledge of alligiance; how to remove the nativity scenes in front of churches around Christmas; how to change the name of the Washington Redskins to something more PC.

PS. If I was the busboy, I would have just cut in front of you, and used the men's room.

Then she got something wrong with her. Thats just rude. I hope someone beat his grapes in. THey oughta take him and tie him up by his feet and spin him around a few times till he gets dizzy and then throw their spiked heels at him.

You have obviously never worked in a restaurant. I bet the same people that whine and cry about the busboy using the ladies room would be screaming bloody murder if their food was delayed because their waiter was in the bathroom line for 20 minutes. If there is a closing door, and it is a single occupancy bathroom, there is nothing wrong... much less ILLEGAL... in the busboy using it.

Hi, slapper,
Usually, there is no state, local, or county ordinances against using one restroom or the other.
Normally, in an "emergency" situation, have to go now, it's best to ask someone to stand outside the bathroom door, to tell a lady that it's an emergency and a man is in the ladies' room.
Or, it can work the other way, as I have seen it. I have also stood outside the Mens' Restroom, and told other men that a lady had to use the bathroom, an emergency.
It's all in how it's handled, not to cause any hard feelings among others.
I do wish you the best.

I have done it before. There was a huge cue for the ladies toilets and I was dying for the toilet - so I went into the Mens because it was vacent. I had a friend stand at the door until I came out, to make sure no men came in though.

Oh I have done it before, not in a restaurant or store but at a nightclub plenty of times, Usually there are only two stalls and a huge line waiting for the woman's room where with a guys room its only like three but I don't usually go in by myself I go in with another girl, that mayb e a little dangerous to go in by myself. When you have to go you have to go. If I have to go that bad Im going in where I can, as long as the men don't care and there usually all to happy to let me and a friend in ahead then I don't see a problem. I can't wait in the woman's line for 10 minutes when I have to go that bad.

Im sure many woman can relate;)

Hello:

It seems like we've uncovered a double standard, which I'll deal with shortly. However, I think the question is bogus. Personally, I have never seen a line for a men’s room when there is not a longer line for the women’s. That's just me. Maybe in other parts of the country, men pee more than they do here.

The double standard revealed here, is that it's OK for girls to use the boys, but not OK for the boys to use the girls. At least, I don't have a problem with it. Am I wrong?

excon

Oh I have done it before, not in a resturaunt or store but at a nightclub plenty of times, Usually there are only two stalls and a huge line waiting for the woman's room where with a guys room its only like three but I don't usually go in by myself I go in with another girl, that mayb e alittle dangerous to go in by myself. When you have to go you have to go. If I have to go that bad Im going in where I can, as long as the men don't care and there usually all to happy to let me and a friend in ahead then I don't see a problem. I can't wait in the woman's line for 10 minutes when i have to go that bad.

Im sure many woman can relate;)

Most certainly. I have done it in both night clubs and a leisure centre. I always asked at both - they never have a problem with it as long as you ask and they are vacent. Always help if a mte stand at the door for you lol

No Ive never been a busgirl but I have worked in a restaurant. Its one thing when the bathroom for your gender is too occupied and so you have to make sure the other genders bathroom is clear before you use it. Yes I can understand that because I have had to do the same but I did not just barge in while some poor man was standing at the urinal with his johnson hanging out of his pants. The way it was said in the first post was he just barged in there. Um I'm sure that you maybe unaware but there are things that go on in a woman's restroom that are not meant to be seen by the eyes of men and if you go waltzing in with out warning you may get an eye full of something you really don't want to. So its best to give warning.

I agree DJ'H I think regardless of gender when you got to go, you got to go, regardless of gender. If Im at a club and a guy needs to use the woman's bathroom because of a huge line to the guys room I don't see a problem with it as but you are always going to get other woman who are'nt happy with it because they may seem uncomfortable in that sense its how you personally feel about it.

But if there wasn't a line to a mens room and a guy wanted to use the woman's, that's when I would be a little suspicious..

No Ive never been a busgirl but I have worked in a restuarant. Its one thing when the bathroom for your gender is too occupied and so you have to make sure the other genders bathroom is clear before you use it. Yes I can understand that because I have had to do the same but I did not just barge in while some poor man was standing at the urinal with his johnson hanging out of his pants. The way it was said in the first post was he just barged in there. Um im sure that you maybe unaware but there are things that go on in a womans restroom that are not meant to be seen by the eyes of men and if you go waltzing in with out warning you may get an eye full of something you really dont want to. So its best to give warning.

The original post said nothing about "barging in". It said he "headed into" the ladies room. My comments were based on the assumption that we were dealing with two single toilet bathrooms based upon the fact that it was a restaurant with a line for the mens room. The only way that is going to happen is a door being locked or it being the largest restaurant on the planet.

Well it didn't exactly use the words "barged" in but it didn't say he checked to make sure no women were in there either. Of course I was thinking of the bigger bathrooms not the single toilet ones. Yeah I hate that. Why in the world do they only have one toilet for each gender to use is stupid in my book.

Um im sure that you maybe unaware but there are things that go on in a womans restroom that are not meant to be seen by the eyes of men and if you go waltzing in with out warning you may get an eye full of something you really dont want to. So its best to give warning.Like what for example? You each have your own individual stalls.

Hello crankie, and the rest:

Now, I’m curious. They DO have stalls with doors in the ladies room, don’t they? I would hope that those little things women do that would turn a man to stone if he saw them, occurs behind those little stall doors.

But tell me, what could you be doing, that would be so ghastly OUTSIDE those doors? Or is this a secret only known by women?

excon

:confused: Umm the only thing I could think of that most men wouldn't want want to see a woman doing in a bathroom, would either be going number two or changing a pad and or a tampon. And of my 27 years on this earth I have never seen that done in the open obviuosly with going number 2. Whenever I have ever had to do any of these things it has always been in a stall without the public view.

But never mind men, if I walked into a woman's room and someone was casually changing a tampon or pad right out in the open in front of everyone I would probably turn around and walk out. Tha's a little gross. I mean all woman go through the same thing but if your having an emergency and can't do it in a stall, then do it in privacy.
That is the only thing I can think of unless there is something else that Im not aware of.

Excon, there are stalls for those things yes but I have walked in and seen other women doing things out in the open like using the hand dryer to dry their clothes with their skirt all up in their face. There are women in there that have no dignity at all and will dress outside the stalls boobs popping out and all. I wonder has any of you ever had the problem of people that stand right up on your stall and feel they have to watch you take a danged pee? This other woman did this to me once when I was a mcdonalds she stood there staring at me through that little space in the door. I was like " take a picture honey itll last longer."

There is no double standard here - we were just sharing our experiences. Men should equally be able to do the same. But I cannot say it is often I see a que to the mens toilets!!

Women always go in two's or maybe a little group, they always have a chat and things, comb their hair, touch up their makeup - which is why the que builds up, men just go it alone lol

I see what your talking about. Oh I have seen those kinds of woman who don't seen to have a bit of modesty. I have heard before "oh we all have the same thing" That's all fine and dandy, but when I have another woman staring at my things it gets a bit uncomfortable, I have expirenced that "many" times before. But I don't think that would make most men walk out it would probably make them want to walk in, lol.:p

Thre is a local club where I live where Men are not permitted to go into the female toilets and women are not allowed to go into the male toilets. This was implemented because so many people were getting caught out having sex etc. So if Men they always get thrown out of there if they are seen by the bouncers. But Men often venture into the ladies toilets, just to chit chat or see what they can see. I think it's all about rebellion, being somewhere they are not meant to be, it's exciting to them lol

Maybe this post should be moved from the "Law" forum.

Lol

I did not even notice this was in the Law section lol

I've used the ladies washroom before.

If the man's one is busy or out of order and I have to go, I don't see anything wrong with it.

You should look into unisex washrooms... thats another story.

I was at a store once, and the Men's Washroom was out of order (cleaning). So I went in and used the women's washroom. If the women in the stall next to me knew I was a guy, she might have freaked, but I don't think there is anything illegal to it.

It is just the companies way of trying to conform to social standards.

If we are truly talking about single-stalled, locked restrooms, I would suppose there would be no law against this... at least not in California. If anything there could be a house rule against it, which may get you excused form the restaurant if you were caught doing it. However, if it were a mulitple-stalled restroom without a locking door, I wouldn't be surprised if there WAS a law against it... it seems appropriate.

As for me, I spent quite a few years in the restaurant business. We had single-stall restrooms with a door and a lock. Any decent person would not only close the door but LOCK it, as well.

I didn't even care if there was a "line"... if that mens room door was LOCKED, I was checking the women's within 2 seconds. That's just how it was. I was at work and had far too many tables to be waiting for someone to finish their business. It was rare enough just to get the chance to get away long enough to use the restroom!

If we are truly talking about single-stalled, locked restrooms, I would suppose there would be no law against this... at least not in California. If anything there could be a house rule against it, which may get you excused form the resaurant if you were caught doing it. However, if it were a mulitple-stalled restroom without a locking door, I wouldnt be surprised if there WAS a law against it... it seems appropriate.

As for me, I spent quite a few years in the restaurant business. We had single-stall restrooms with a door and a lock. Any decent person would not only close the door but LOCK it, as well.

I didnt even care if there was a "line" ...if that mens room door was LOCKED, I was checking the womens within 2 seconds. Thats just how it was. I was at work and had far too many tables to be waiting for someone to finish their business. It was rare enough just to get the chance to get away long enough to use the restroom!!

I hear you and I know exactly where you are coming from. I don't think there is any laws enforced in the UK about this sort of thing!! It's only when you get caught out having sex - but even then you only get thrown out of the toilets or perhaps even the establishment for the rest of that night, none gets arrested for it lol