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justme005
Jan 25, 2008, 02:05 PM
I've been getting drunk a lot in the past 2 weeks... its no good. After getting drunk I found out things that people said to me that I don't remember... I did things and don't have a clue about it. Luckily I am around safe people and I've been making good choices when it comes to guys. The thing is I'm really worried about this. I always used to drink this often and always have the same amount to get drunk.. I don't understand why all of a sudden I am forgetting things that happened at the very end of the night. The beginning and middle are all good its just the end. Is something wrong w. me? Y am I all of a sudden losing time when I'm drunk? Also I have been getting very red in the fast when drunk and when coming out of the shower. This is all strange and new to me.odd things are happening.

Anybody have any thoughts or answers!

If you do... thanksssssssss ;)

Choux
Jan 25, 2008, 02:10 PM
I guess you're an alcoholic who is having blackouts.

N0help4u
Jan 25, 2008, 02:10 PM
That is natural as you age and it only gets worse. They say every time you drink you kill so many brain cells, eventually more cells effected the more you start noticing it.
Know... how alcohol works (http://www.knowyourlimits.info/HowAlcoholWorks.aspx)

Some of my friends and neighbors that are alcoholic and in their 40's have so much brain damage they constantly ask me the same question over and over. I can be driving them to the grocery store a few minutes away and they ask at least 6 times, "Where are we going again?"

peggyhill
Jan 25, 2008, 02:17 PM
I think your body may be sending you a message saying that it is time to stop drinking. If you are having blackouts, it is time to quit. It's good that you party with safe people, but you have to think about your health in addition to your safetly. Even if you could handle it in the past, your body can't take it now.

I would also recommend that you ask your doctor about the flushed face. It could be a warning sign of another problem.

simoneaugie
Jan 25, 2008, 02:29 PM
Alcohol changes the body. It makes cells less permeable. I don't remember all of it. Over time, your body is adapting to your alcohol intake. It is a poison, especially for alcoholics.

When "normies" drink, their body slowly changes the alcohol to acetaldehyde, a toxic by-product which is then made into something else that the body can eliminate. Acetaldehyde is what floats around in the blood and gives you a hangover, nausea and all that fun stuff.

In the body of an alcoholic, alcohol is turned into acetaldehyde very, very fast. They can drink faster and more than a normie, and have lots of fun. But the body adapts to being poisoned. Over time, the cells, in their attempt to keep alcohol out begin to keep out nutrients... That's all I remember about that.

Not remembering things at the end of the evening is a physical reaction to long term intake. Getting a red face can be alcohol related too. Your body is no longer able to handle the amounts it used to. Although you continue to drink the same amount, it has become too much. You are poisoning yourself. Alcohol is socially acceptable and legal. That doesn't mean that it is not poisonous.

Go to AA. Read their free pamphlets and learn about it. Quitting drinking may mean changing some of your friends and certain lifestyle alterations. That stuff is killing you! I've been there. I am not judging you one bit. Alcohol lies to you, tells you that you do not have a problem with it. That is addiction.

HistorianChick
Jan 25, 2008, 02:30 PM
Darlin, if you know that you have a problem with blacking out when you drink too much, why would you want to drink?

Worse, what if someone took advantage of you while you were drunk and you "blacked out" and can't remember? My mind is going over all kinds of worst-case-scenarios here... none of them are pretty pictures.

Honey, you need to seriously back off the drink. Partying can be fun without the drink. Social drinking can be fun - and it can also be controlled.

My advice to you is take a step back from drinking so much... its not going to hurt you by doing so... but it seriously could hurt you if you continue blacking out from so much liquor.

justme005
Jan 25, 2008, 02:54 PM
Okk thanks... I am going to try this: I mean I am a college kid. I'm always partying... any day of the week. It will be way hard to completely stop. But maybe I can limit it to only drinking on weekends and a lot less of it when I do drink. This may be a good place for me to start. The more I think of it the more I am noticing a problem here. Nights when I don't drink (rare) I can't go to sleep... my heart is racing. This is my 3rd yr of college my 1st drink was freshman yr. its been 3 yrs of drinking. I do not drink in the summer and over breaks when I go home. That's a good thing. I do not think I am an alcoholic but I am def on my way there. Thanks for everything any more advice or support it welcomed!

HistorianChick
Jan 25, 2008, 02:57 PM
The first step is recognizing the problem. The hard part is going to be when you actually put it into practice. But you can do it! :)

Good luck to you, justme005. I hope that you are successful in "stepping back"!

talaniman
Jan 25, 2008, 03:26 PM
Your lucky you still have a young strong body right now, as the effects of alcohol will get worse, and as you build resistance, you will drink more. Now you are having blackouts, that will get worse, until you develop "wet brain" from alcoholism (Google this). Young people think they can drink, and party, but the long term consequences, are devastating. Cutting back is not enough, quitting is the answer.

peggyhill
Jan 25, 2008, 03:41 PM
Here is a website that list possible causes for the 'red face'. Now, some of these are very serious, so don't freak out when you read it, lol. In your case, it is most likely caused from the drinking.

Red face - Multiple Symptom Checker - WrongDiagnosis.com (http://symptoms.wrongdiagnosis.com/cosymptoms/red-face-desc.htm)

There is a section on there about alcohol. I think it's really good that you are cutting back. When you do drink, make sure to drink a glass of water for every alcoholic drink. It will help you drink less and you will stay hydrated.

N0help4u
Jan 25, 2008, 03:57 PM
justme005 agrees: what kind of problem??

Just to name two brain damage and kills vitamin B 1 and other vitamins and minerals and enzymes.

Alcohol-related Neurological Disease Information on Healthline (http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/alcohol-related-neurological-disease)

Drunkorexia: Health Danger For Women, Young Women Court Danger By Substituting Alcohol Calories For Food Calories - The ShowBuzz (http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/23/style_beauty/main3744289.shtml)

simoneaugie
Jan 26, 2008, 12:24 AM
Hey justme,

I'm sorry to tell you this but no one becomes an alcoholic. We are born that way and it is triggered by ingestion. If you are having trouble sleeping if you aren't drinking before bed? Now is not the time to slow down your drinking. If you want a life, quit. Because it gets worse.

Picture yourself 40 years old. Sleeping rarely happens, you can only pass out. Your face is puffy and you look sick. Your eyes and face are various shades of red all the time. When you're awake, you're either drinking or driving drunk to the store to get some. You can't drink at work so there you experience the acetaldehyde poisoning. You are dizzy, can't think, jumpy and keep running to the little girls room to make yourself throw up, so you can act like you are working. Your husband and kids are in the way of your drinking. Everyone and everything is getting in the way, all you want to do is stay drunk.

Quit now, and you will have a life. Because you aren't that bad... yet.

Wondergirl
Jan 26, 2008, 12:34 AM
For every ounce of liquor consumed, 7,000 brain cells die.

justme005
Jan 26, 2008, 02:40 PM
you r scaring me. Maybe this why I feel dizzy and like throwing up after eating and just randomly. This is worse than I thought... :(

talaniman
Jan 26, 2008, 03:48 PM
ya'll r scaring me. maybe this why i feel dizzy and like throwing up after eating and just randomly. this is worse than i thought......... :(
Welcome to the real world, where fun can be very costly. It is scary, so do something for yourself to change it.

s_cianci
Jan 26, 2008, 04:01 PM
It's not uncommon to have memory lapses when you've been under the influence of alcohol. Also, reddened skin is a common side effect of alcohol use, especially when done to excess. It sounds like you may have a problem with alcohol and need to either cut back or stop altogether. Counseling can help in this regard. Don't just brush it off as excessive alcohol consumption can have drastic physical and emotional consequences.

justme005
Jan 26, 2008, 04:03 PM
Tonight is my last night drinking until next weekend. Its going to be a rough week, I'm feel so ty and shaky and pukey... but in the long run ill be better off I think... lol

J_9
Jan 26, 2008, 04:05 PM
tonite is my last nite drinking until next weekend. its gunna be a rough week, im feel so ty and shaky and pukey ... but in the long run ill be better off i think.... lol

That really sounds like alcoholic talk. Today is my last day... until tomorrow comes and there is a reason to celebrate or a very stressful day. Then that will be their last day.

You either quit or you don't.

Wondergirl
Jan 26, 2008, 04:40 PM
until next weekend

No, not until "next weekend." Stop. Now. Go to A.A.

Fr_Chuck
Jan 26, 2008, 05:11 PM
Let me see, you drink to the point of being drunk to start with. And then drinking to the point of not knowing what is going on,

Yes here is a problem, you are a drunk

peggyhill
Jan 26, 2008, 05:21 PM
I think you need to quit, not just cut back. You are an alcoholic, honey. I'm sorry to have to say it, but it's true. If you can't quit for even one week, there is a problem there. Alcoholics can't drink. Period. Your body is damaged enough already. Can you imagine having fun without alcohol? Honey, lots of people fall into alcoholism in college.

My brother in law started drinking on weekends in college, just like you. Then he started to associate fun with alcohol. If there wasn't booze, he wasn't having fun. Now, he drinks at least 15 beers a day, has no social life, no friends, no girlfriend. He is staying with us right now because he was evicted. He spent all his money on beer. This morning we found him in the living room drooling on himself with a beer still clenched in his hand. His teeth are rotted out, he's bald, he used to be so smart and now he acts like an idiot. He has ulcers, insomnia, anger problems, and he's only 25 years old. Please don't end up like him. He lost his job for drinking at work.

Go to AA. If you don't have the willpower to resist drinking, check yourself into rehab. Hang out with people who don't drink. You are the only one who can save your life here. Please get help for yourself.

justme005
Jan 26, 2008, 05:51 PM
I see... I don't know why I feel like puking at random... like all of a sudden it in hits me... after I eat I want to puke! Its an awful feeling.

also is blood in your bowel movement mean something? Lol it must. I think I saw a small tad today :0

maybe I should talk to someone at my school about this...

we r about to drink now... drinking games and whatnot. I promise this is the last day. U all can hold me to it. Ima try and go a week w.o it.


oh dear...

J_9
Jan 26, 2008, 05:56 PM
Blood in your bowel movement can be caused by an ulcer. Ulcers can be caused by drinking. Ulcers, if left untreated can become very serious and lead to hospitalization.

Oh, have fun getting drunk again.

peggyhill
Jan 26, 2008, 06:01 PM
Blood in the bowel movement is VERY serious. Was it bright red or dark? I don't get it. You are getting ready to play drinking games,but you come on this site first to talk about alcoholism? You have to get in rehab. My best friend is a nurse in ICU. They had a 23 year old woman die of liver failure this week. She was an alcoholic.

Alcoholics always say "This is the last time". It's like me when I was trying to quit smoking. I'd say "Oh, I'll only smoke when I'm out with my friends on the weekend" That never happened. I had to quit for good period. I was addicted to it. I still am. I would love to be smoking a cig right now. But I won't. Because if I did, I would go back to a pack a day in a second. I know that's not the same as alcohol, but I was able to overcome it with counseling and willpower.
There are people who can drink socially and people who can't. Tell your friends about your insomnia, puking, red face, and anal bleeding. Tell them that is why you aren't going to be drinking tonight.

I'm not trying to sound harsh, hon. I'm just worried about you. I think talking to a counselor at your school is a very good idea.

talaniman
Jan 26, 2008, 07:14 PM
You are killing yourself with every drink, even after all the symptoms have hit you in the eyes and A$$. How stupid is that? That's what drunks do though.

justme005
Jan 26, 2008, 09:09 PM
I'm sorryy... :(... I am sooo sad rite now... I'm depressed... I'm lonely.. I'm a druink... its badd... I need help.. I just can't do it on my own. I can't do this. I'm so scared. Someone help. Ahh... :,(

s_cianci
Jan 27, 2008, 08:28 AM
i see....i dont know why i feel like puking at random... like all of a sudden it in hits me... after i eat i wanna puke! its an awful feeling.

also is blood in ur bowel movement mean something? lol it must. i think i saw a small tad today :0

maybe i should talk to someone at my school about this...

we r about to drink now... drinking games and whatnot. i promise this is the last day. u all can hold me to it. ima try and go a week w.o it.


oh dear...Excessive alcohol consumption irritates your digestive and urinary tracts. Blood in the stool can be serious ; hemorrhoids, ulcers, cancer or simple irritation. Stomach irritation, to the point of vomiting, is common as well. See a doctor to address the symptoms you've been experiencing and also for consultation on how to successfully stop drinking. Alcoholism is due to a chemical imbalance and it is triggered by alcohol consumption. The only way to successfully treat alcoholism is no booze whatsoever.

justme005
Jan 27, 2008, 10:37 AM
Gotcha... its all smooth sailing from here. Last night was my last. Today equals a fresh start. I don't want to live the life of an alcoholic. I don't want my hands to shake because I need some booze. I don't want to feel dizzy and nervous all day. Its time for change and there is no day like the present. I shall keep everyone posted on my experience at the AA meeting and if I break my promise of no drinking... I will be veryyy upset!

justme005
Jan 28, 2008, 07:55 AM
If anyone is still reading this...

I am having sleeping problems. I did not dirnk last night and I didn't feel shaky or anything (surprisingly) but I just could not sleep. This has been happening so much lately.. even after a night of drinking... I pass out and wake up in the early am and cannot fall bak asleep! What is going on here. No caffeine in me either...

UGHHH!

HistorianChick
Jan 28, 2008, 07:59 AM
Darlin, your body is going through withdrawal. You've gotten used to your alcohol intake and it is craving it. This is a normal thing for someone who is going cold turkey. Keep it up and DON'T drink again!

I commend you for doing this. It is very difficult... but you are going to get through it! You're stronger than this addiction...

You may consider talking to the counselor at your college about these symptoms, your determination to quit drinking, and the affect that its having on your life and personality. Its just a thought... maybe she can help you better than we can on this forum.

But please keep us up to date. We're all rooting for you! :)

peggyhill
Jan 28, 2008, 12:35 PM
I'm really glad to hear that you are quitting and going to AA. It will take a while for your body to get used to not having the alcohol. If the withdrawal symptoms get really bad, go to the doctor and explain what is going on. They may be able to help.

I agree talking to the counselor about this is a good idea too.

I know you can do it! It'll be rough, but I know you can get through it! Keep being strong! :)

twinkiedooter
Jan 28, 2008, 01:56 PM
The reason you wake up a lot is that the alcohol is a depressant and has wrecked havoc with your body. It has chemically altered your brain as well. You need to start taking vitamins and minerals that your body has been depleted of. I sent you a private message.

justme005
Jan 28, 2008, 04:32 PM
Thank you all for being so supportive! The only person I can think of talking to at my school is one of my 2 advisors... they are both music therapists (which is my major). The only thing is... I don't know if I should tell them about this since I am always in contact with them. They teach some of my classes and whatnot. So this may not be a good idea? But he already knows me and stuff and I trust him/them. We'll see if things get bad enough that I rreally need someone.

Day 2 in progress w. no drinking. Oh how exciting :)

peggyhill
Jan 28, 2008, 04:58 PM
Is there a counseling center at your college? If there is a campus health center, ask them about counseling. Lots of time it is free or at a reduced rate for students!

I am proud of you! Take it one day at a time. You can do this! :)

justme005
Jan 28, 2008, 08:25 PM
I don't know if there is.. never really looked into... maybe ill search around... I don't want people to know I'm going so... I got to be sneaky... haha

HistorianChick
Jan 29, 2008, 06:35 AM
Be sneaky all you want... but Darlin... you are going to have to realize that people are going to know you're not drinking anymore. You're going to get hit BIG TIME with peer pressure to drink again... "Aww... just one! One won't hurt!" Be ready for it. Have an answer ready for when you're tempted to slip back into the habit.

Better yet... don't put yourself in the situation where you will be tempted to drink... at least until you get a handle on the addictions.

Seriously.

You can be sneaky about going to a counselor, but people are going to know that you've quit. But Hon, you're the better person. You're strong enough to do this.

Take care, justme. We're all rooting for you.

Marydoll
Jan 29, 2008, 06:59 AM
My God, Its called being drunk! It effects people differently! It messes with your brain! I get drunk quite also and I enjoy it! Most of the time Imyself and my partner can't remember what pub we went to last ot how we got home!

Some people get p***ed and fall around the place... You don't ask what it wrong with them do you... You know! Same should go for memory lapses! All part of the drunken rollercoster!

justme005
Jan 29, 2008, 10:28 PM
Day 3 soberrrr! Holllllerrrr :) I feel so good now! AA tomorrow night at 730!

HistorianChick
Jan 30, 2008, 06:31 AM
day 3 soberrrr! holllllerrrr :) i feel so good now! AA tomorrow nite at 730!

YOU DA BOMB, GIRL!!

Keep it up!! :D

justme005
Jan 30, 2008, 12:09 PM
Hey folks...

Last night I barely slept. I went to bed at 1:30... tossed and turned till about 5:30am dozed off bit... woke up... fell bak asleep and had to be up for class by 9:30. So I am very tired at this point... on top of everything I got my period. Lol. Now I'm even more tired. Today sucks. Hopefully tonight will be better...

HistorianChick
Jan 30, 2008, 12:14 PM
Have you tried chamomile or mint tea before bed? I've found that sometimes after I've had a particularly stressful day at work (or drank a TON of caffeine throughout the day), a nice cup o' tea relaxes me and puts me out.

I know that your body is still going through the withdrawal process and that it's a different situation than my stressful days, but you might try it. Or, a nice hot bath before bed? Maybe with a little bit of lavender?

Just trying to help you out a tad... Sorry your day sucks, justme! But remember, when your day sucks, it will get better soon! :)

justme005
Jan 30, 2008, 01:33 PM
Thank you... I will try some tea tonight... it's a negative on the bath, though I wish I could... dorms only have showers and if they had baths... I wouldn't go in them! Haha.

Thanks a ton :)

Wondergirl
Jan 30, 2008, 02:10 PM
Establish a bedtime routine. (I know in a dorm that doesn't always work, but try it for a week.) Take a warm shower, put on clean jammies or nightie, read a chapter in a novel while drinking hot chocolate or decaf tea, then slip into bed that maybe was preheated with an electric blanket.

justme005
Jan 30, 2008, 10:52 PM
Ohh sounds sooo... delightful :)

I went to the AA meeting... it was weird... I didn't like it... all these weird people in one place. Scary. I don't want to be like them.

Day 4. sober. Holla.

HistorianChick
Jan 31, 2008, 08:43 AM
How come you "don't want to be like them?" What exactly don't you want to be "like?" What were the attendees like?

Day 4! You're doing it, Hon! You're conquering it! :D

talaniman
Jan 31, 2008, 09:30 AM
ohh sounds sooo... delightful :)

i went to the AA meeting... it was weird ... i didnt like it... all these weird ppl in one place. scary. i dont wanna be like them.

day 4. sober. holla.
They have exactly what you want, sobriety. Hang in there, and find out how they got that sobriety.

justme005
Jan 31, 2008, 02:16 PM
Ill try... but I feel like I want to just sip on a nice beverage tonight... not to get drunk but just... because I want too... I miss it. I know the weekend is coming and I'm going to a superbowl party I wanted to stay sober till then.. but so much stuff has happened this week.. I just want to dirnk a bit... ill write later to see what happens... if I don't finish my hw I won't drink and I don't get done class till 930 tonight.

I have to hang in there... I just... feel like its been sooo long. We shall see.

HistorianChick
Jan 31, 2008, 02:21 PM
Oh Darlin, don't... please.

One drink isn't going to be enough.

Do this for yourself... you can say no. You're stronger than your cravings.

Why not buy yourself some Godiva chocolate or a huge cup of coffee... something, anything. Or... buy yourself something tangible. Something that you can say that you bought when you were battling this addiction. Some little trinket or fufu thing...

Justme - YOU CAN DO THIS!!

peggyhill
Jan 31, 2008, 02:23 PM
You have to fight that feeling. I think it might be best for you to avoid the superbowl party if you know you won't be able to refuse the drinks. Or you could let your friends know you quit and tell them to please not offer you drinks. If they ask why, just say "health reasons".

I think you should give AA another try. Why did the people seem weird to you? Were there any your age? I would see if you can get in a counseling program at the school. You could also ask the person who runs that AA group to help you find a mentor close to your age. It's easier to relate and talk that way. Remember, those people have attained sobriety. Even if they seem weird, they might have some wonderful advice for you. I would go to at least one more meeting and ask for a mentor.

J_9
Jan 31, 2008, 02:29 PM
I know you want just one drink. Just ONE. I know, I am battling an addiction myself. Cigarettes. You know, nicotine addiction is just as hard to break as alcohol addiction.

I can tell you that if you do take that one drink, it won't be enough. You will want another, then another. I tell you this as I sit here twiddling my lighter just wanting to light up.

But you can do this. I know you can.

I know the folks at AA can be a little frightening sometimes, but remember, some of them are mothers, fathers, doctors, lawyers. They have all been where you are now and they all are now where you want to be.

If you aren't comfortable with the one you went to, find another in your area. They are all over the place, but tend to be on the QT because many people don't want others to know they are addicted and going to meetings. Try local churches, many churches have meetings.

Once you find one you like you will need a sponsor. A sponsor is the person you call when you feel you need a drink, or when you are just having a hard time. Sponsors are there for you day and night to help you battle the addiction and embrace sobriety.

peggyhill
Jan 31, 2008, 02:33 PM
Hey, good for you for trying to quit smoking! I know it sucks. Right now I'm been nicotine free for about 6 months. It gets way easier after the first month or so, at least for me. Good luck!

justme005
Jan 31, 2008, 04:32 PM
Thanks J9... good luck with your cigg addiction. I'm sure you can do it too! I know I should... nt go out tonight... I really hope no one calls me... maybe I just won't answer.. you no? The AA meeting I went to was at a church near my college... they were all older and I got there a little late and was so scared to walk in.. But my friend went w. me so we sat al the way in the back and people kept looking at me funny and talking about God and the 12 steps... I guess I have to look into something else... UGHH..! Drinking wouldn't be such a problem if it weren't for the stupid black outs and not remembering... it used to be fun. Ohh well I am off to rehearsal we'll see what happens when I get out at 9:30... maybe ill stick to finishing up some hw... thanks for these post everyone... your really keeping me thinking and staying on top of this.

justme005
Jan 31, 2008, 08:48 PM
OKKKK so you convinced me... I stayed in tonight... HAA. Yes now I'm 5 daysss soberrr. Word :)

HistorianChick
Feb 1, 2008, 06:36 AM
Boo-YA! 5 Days! You da man! (or, woman... lol)

You said "off to rehearsal"... what rehearsal? Drama? I've done professional and community theatre... LOVE IT!

justme005
Feb 1, 2008, 08:45 AM
Nahh I play the trumpet so I was at orchestra rehearsal.. I also play some piano and I love playing guitar!

HistorianChick
Feb 1, 2008, 08:48 AM
I've played piano for, oh golly, bucus of years... wow... I feel old now... LOL!

18 years. Wow.

I play flute and piccolo, too. Got to love music! :)

peggyhill
Feb 1, 2008, 12:20 PM
Hey, girl good for you for hanging in there! Sounds like you have lots of musical talent. That's awesome!

justme005
Feb 1, 2008, 08:58 PM
I'm drunk :(

justme005
Feb 1, 2008, 08:59 PM
And high now...

justme005
Feb 2, 2008, 01:52 AM
I blew it... oh my god...

talaniman
Feb 2, 2008, 08:49 AM
When you wake up, get back on the wagon.

HistorianChick
Feb 2, 2008, 09:23 AM
Shake it off. Get up. Go on.

You can do this.

J_9
Feb 2, 2008, 09:31 AM
And I had 3 cigarettes yesterday. We aren't perfect. We fall off the wagon sometimes. The point is to realize that we are human and that we make mistakes.

Now, you need to go to AA, find another group if you felt uncomfortable with the first (and remember, you will feel uncomfortable until you make some friends there), and get yourself a sponsor. A sponsor is someone who you can call at any time of the day or night when you feel the need to drink. Sponsors have even been known to come to you in your time of need.

You can do this. Just take it one day at a time... one hour at a time if you have to.

justme005
Feb 2, 2008, 10:27 AM
Thanks for the encouragement... I know I can do this...

So yesterday, I'm in class (its a forum class) we just all talk about our practicum and how we feel being in the field of music therapy for the 1st time... so during class the teacher (my advisor) was asking us to reflect and stuff.. no one was answering so I went first and opened up and talked about stuff... then everyone else went and I just listened... at the end of class my teacher asks me to stay after a minute.. os everyone leaves and its me and him... he's like so what's going on? I'm like uh nothing... hes like you were different today... I was like how so?? (I was so confused) he's like you were more reserved today... I was like ohhh I don't know... that's just how it is today and like grabbed my coat and left. It was so awkward.I think he may be starting to sense that I am not rite... not myself... is it because of this drinking thing? I don't know what he meant and what he was trying to get at... I think he may want me to open up to him and stuff about practicum and my life. Lol.hes a therapist so I guess he senses stuff... any ideas of what I should do or say to him? Should I shoot him an email? Just saying I'm sorry but I'm going through some of my own things.. just to give him an idea... or should I just forget it... ahhh!

You folks are so nice to me and I know ull have some helpful feedback :/

HistorianChick
Feb 2, 2008, 11:12 AM
Your professor is being a good teacher. He's noticing that you're going through something and is trying to help. Maybe set up an appointment with him and just talk. You said he's a therapist, maybe he can give you some pointers about finding a sponsor.

Have you tried to find out about your school guidance counselor? She/he could help you too...

I think the people around you (like your professor) are noticing that you're going through a difficult time. Maybe they are seeing a new resolve in you. Darlin, you went 5 days without drinking. That's an awesome first step. Its very possible that they are seeing that you're different... because you were completely sober, not hung over, or waiting for the next party. That's awesome, Hon.

Don't be afraid to talk to people that can help. I'd make an appointment with your professor and go from there.

Music therepy? That sounds amazing. You go, girl. :)

Remember, its never wrong to ask for help.

justme005
Feb 2, 2008, 12:25 PM
Thanks so much... I'm nervous talking to him though... but I really want too... ill see how things go and maybe ill set up something w. him :)

peggyhill
Feb 2, 2008, 12:33 PM
I think that's a gread idea. Hang in there, hon. One day at a time. And you're doing really good! Just because you messed up once, doesn't mean that you failed. It's a battle that you have to fight every day, and when you mess up, just dust yourself off and keep on going. I think that Historian Chick made a really good point about how people are noticing the difference because you are sober and have a strong resolve. So good for you!

justme005
Feb 2, 2008, 11:37 PM
Aww... your going to kill me... I blew it again... :( I had a few beers and smoked some bowls... I'm not drunk though and I am not going to black out... so that's still good, rite? Oh well... ill ttyl

talaniman
Feb 3, 2008, 04:32 AM
No its not good at all, Without the physical consequenses there is no motivation or fear to quit. It's a false sense of security, and its easier to keep getting high, than to go through the rigors of sobriety.

HistorianChick
Feb 3, 2008, 07:53 AM
No, Darlin, that's not still good.

Its so easy to slip back into the habit... "just a few beers" is not good.

You've got to take control of your cravings. You are stronger than this.

Talk to a counsellor. You need to start actively pursuing help on this one. I think its time.

Come on girl, you can do this. :)

justme005
Feb 3, 2008, 10:49 AM
But what if... I only drink on the weekends? I know its still no good... but I WAS drinking every single day of the week... you no? Yeaa I don't like talking to people or confrontation... a counsler would get me to say things I don't want too and make assumptions. I feel like I can just do this on my own, but if I need help I know where to go.

talaniman
Feb 3, 2008, 10:57 AM
The best way to quit alcohol, is listening to those that have quit. It doesn't matter whether you drink on the weekends, or once a month. When it becomes a problem, you need to deal with it. Just because you didn't puke your A$$ off today, doesn't mean you won't tomorrow. Just my opinion, but in my experience, you will not seek help, until it gets bad for you, so its your choice, what you do from here. Drink up.

J_9
Feb 3, 2008, 10:58 AM
What if you only drink on the weekends? What will make you stop drinking during the week? An alcoholic must stay away from all forms of alcohol at all times.

What if I just smoke my cigarettes on the weekend? I'm still addicted or I wouldn't be smoking at all, right? Well, same goes with alcohol.

Hun, a counselor will never make assumptions. That's not what they do.

You do need help. And very few alcoholics can do it on their own.

N0help4u
Feb 3, 2008, 11:56 AM
Yep as talaniman and J_9 said there is what is called weekend alcoholics
If you can't go without it no matter what your pattern is if you can't break it/go without it it is an addiction.

HistorianChick
Feb 3, 2008, 02:48 PM
Darlin, you're going to have to decide if your pride is more important than ridding your body of this addiction.

No one can make that decision, but you.

justme005
Feb 4, 2008, 10:32 AM
Okk folks, I understaand... I feel so terrible todaay I got drunk and high aagin last night. I can't pull myself together to go talk to anyone.. I just cant.. I don't no y.. I think I'm denying this problem rite now... I was trashed... oh mann. I was doing so good w. 5 days sober... now I'm bak in the groove of drinking every night again.

And yes, there are parts of last night I can't remember.

But the giants won!! AHHH very excitng.

HistorianChick
Feb 4, 2008, 10:37 AM
Like we have all said before, No one is going to make you stop drinking than yourself. If you decide you are going to stop, then YOU are going to have to make it happen. Make up your mind.

You're going to have to get over your embarrassment about talking to someone and just do it. You have the power to stop, but you need the support to make it.

You were doing well last week... and you can do it again.

justme005
Feb 4, 2008, 10:45 AM
I know...

HistorianChick
Feb 4, 2008, 10:48 AM
That's the thing...

Darlin, YOU KNOW.

Take a page out of Nike's book and Just Do It.

justme005
Feb 4, 2008, 06:45 PM
Okk so if I did go to a counsler, what would I say? "hey, i like alcohol, i have black outs when i drink alot, i have low self confidence, im scared im gunna lose my liver by the age of 25..." what the hell are these people going to do for me? I'm going to talk, they are going to tell me I have a problem... when really, I'm not even an alcoholic (yet) my mind is just messed up... I've done drugs in my past and its effected my thinking now and forever... but you no? I can't take it bak now. I have to live w. it. I'm very stressed out... I am just starting my practicum and I have to play and sing in front of people I know and don't know... everything is piling up and I need to grow up already. I have to pull myself together. I have to.

Cheshire2008
Feb 4, 2008, 06:49 PM
I see 12 important Steps in your future But the best part is it begins with only one
I hope you take it. Good luck

justme005
Feb 5, 2008, 12:17 AM
I am losing my grip on everything. My head is so clouded. This is my last beer. I swear... ull see

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2008, 12:18 AM
I'm awake and watching you.

justme005
Feb 5, 2008, 12:19 AM
I wish u were. Lol

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2008, 12:19 AM
I would adopt you.

justme005
Feb 5, 2008, 12:24 AM
Hahahahaha. That's funny.

Wondergirl
Feb 5, 2008, 12:27 AM
Well, sweetiepie, it's nearly 1:30 here and I must have some tea and cinnamon toast before I go to bed. Sleep well. I will be standing guard on your shoulder. If you feel something jumping up and down there and hear some muffled yelling not to drink, it will be me.

justme005
Feb 5, 2008, 12:34 AM
Thank u... that's very sweet of u. lol... its 230 here by the way :) gnite'

HistorianChick
Feb 5, 2008, 06:47 AM
How you doing this morning, Darlin?

Cheshire2008
Feb 5, 2008, 06:51 AM
Just me,
Please go back to the meetings at AA Find a sponsor They will help you get through this One day at a time. If you slip and you will they will understand. They will love you just as you are and get you through this. One day you will look back and say
How stupid was that.
If you feel like you do not like the meeting you went to go to a different one they have plenty all over the place.. Find one that you can relate to.
Right now you need 90 days 90 meetings.

I believe that you can do it!!


Now you have to believe in yourself.

justme005
Feb 5, 2008, 09:22 AM
I am OK today... just a little hungover.. but like I said I'm starting today. I have hw to do and research to do and practicing that must get done... I don't have time to be drinking.. that's how I'm looking at it... I feel like I am slipping away from myself so I need to pull it togther... as far as AA... eh I don't know.. I will look for a counsler at my school today. I'm off to play some pickleball

Thanks for everyone posting and being so supportive.. it means a lot.

HistorianChick
Feb 5, 2008, 09:27 AM
You have an e-support network here in all of us. Now you just need a support network that can physically be in the same room as you. But, even when you get one, we'll all still be here.

Just a click away. :)

justme005
Feb 6, 2008, 10:45 AM
Thanks so much. I'm losing it. I'm going home this weekend though so I won't be able to drink. Which is good. And I'm not drinking tonight... maybe tomorrow though. I just can't say NO. I know I should and its in the bak of my mind but I just can't pull myself together to not go out w. my friends. And I know no one can help me but myself but I can't do it. Lol I go 5 days w.o drinking to 5 days of drinking... now I'm stopping again... ughhh. So beatt. OK well thanks for listening to me vent.

HistorianChick
Feb 6, 2008, 10:52 AM
Darlin, those are not your friends. Ever heard that saying, "Friends don't let friends drink and drive?" Well, take it a step further, "Friends don't let friends drink when they're trying to quit!"

Its going to be infinitely easier to quit if you don't hang out with those friends. I'm not saying its going to be easy on any level, but "easier" if you aren't under their influence!

I just replied to another thread on here about friends... its not relative to your situation at all, but take a look at how life1973happened describes friends. If nothing else, some fun reading for your "extra time" :)

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/should-just-tell-him-180668.html

Have a wonderful time at home... and use this time to maybe talk to family about your problem... I know, I know. You're too embarrassed... Darlin... You're going to have to suck it up and be a little embarrassed if you're going to quit this thing.

Scottish2008
Feb 6, 2008, 11:11 AM
Alcohol changes the body. It makes cells less permeable. I don't remember all of it. Over time, your body is adapting to your alcohol intake. It is a poison, especially for alcoholics.

When "normies" drink, their body slowly changes the alcohol to acetaldehyde, a toxic by-product which is then made into something else that the body can eliminate. Acetaldehyde is what floats around in the blood and gives you a hangover, nausea and all that fun stuff.

In the body of an alcoholic, alcohol is turned into acetaldehyde very, very fast. They can drink faster and more than a normie, and have lots of fun. But the body adapts to being poisoned. Over time, the cells, in their attempt to keep alcohol out begin to keep out nutrients...That's all I remember about that.

Not remembering things at the end of the evening is a physical reaction to long term intake. Getting a red face can be alcohol related too. Your body is no longer able to handle the amounts it used to. Although you continue to drink the same amount, it has become too much. You are poisoning yourself. Alcohol is socially acceptable and legal. That doesn't mean that it is not poisonous.

Go to AA. Read their free pamphlets and learn about it. Quitting drinking may mean changing some of your friends and certain lifestyle alterations. That stuff is killing you! I've been there. I am not judging you one bit. Alcohol lies to you, tells you that you do not have a problem with it. That is addiction.
This is great. You hit the nail on the head. It would be better for you to stop drinking. AA Is a good place to start. The first steep it to admit it. The rest is kosher

J_9
Feb 6, 2008, 02:53 PM
Its going to be infinitely easier to quit if you don't hang out with those friends. I'm not saying its going to be easy on any level, but "easier" if you aren't under their influence!

This is so very true!! I find, at school, that if I hang with the crowd in my class that doesn't smoke, then I don't crave a cigarette. Yet, on breaks from class (my classes range from 2 three hour classes a week and one 12 hour class a week), if I go out with the smokers, I start craving a cigarette and cave in and smoke. Staying in the classroom with the non-smokers is a great way to keep my mind occupied from my addiction.

Now, giving up alcohol is quite the same way. You need to distance yourself from the drinkers and hang out with the non-drinkers. Those non-drinkers (in my case non-smokers) can possibly be all the support system you need. I know they are for me.

justme005
Feb 8, 2008, 08:59 PM
Ohh boyy... so I'm home now and I can't sleep because I need a drink... I'm so wide awake its retarded. I just want some of my dads wine... I think I'm going to go get some. Just a little... my heart is going too fastttttt :(

Cheshire2008
Feb 8, 2008, 09:07 PM
Hold it right there just me! You need to go to a meeting. You have admitted several times that you are powerless over alcohol. You are the only one who can do this. If I was there I would put you in a car and take you too a meeting. That heart is going to get worse.

Cheshire2008
Feb 8, 2008, 09:08 PM
I want you to look on line and call a hotline for AA right now Talk to someone who knows where you been and can talk you out of this. What do you have to lose here. Or Are you not ready to give up this way of life??

justme005
Feb 8, 2008, 09:25 PM
My heart is OK now... I'm buzzed. Ha. I'm on my second talll glass... and I'm getting a gut. Ewwww. I tried looking for a sponsor oline the other day, but nothing came up! I don't know what to type in... I feel like I am not ready to give up this way of life, but I feel like I realllly have too for my health! I keep forgetting things and losing time when drunk... and evem when I'm not I still forget . I'm not telling my parents about this. They will kill me and put me in rehab. No in way.

justme005
Feb 8, 2008, 09:46 PM
I am soooooooooo goooood rite now :)

Cheshire2008
Feb 8, 2008, 09:52 PM
Yes but you won't be later... Just look up AA and it will pull up a hot line
Come on take yourself serious and get some help
Or is it too much fun too forget things and puke your guts out and wreck your car and ruin your brain cells

I guess you ned to stay out there a little longer Good luck

justme005
Feb 8, 2008, 10:07 PM
No no no... I don't need to stay. I can do it! Ahhhhhhhhh

HistorianChick
Feb 9, 2008, 08:48 AM
Yes, you need to tell your parents about this... they love you and can help.

talaniman
Feb 9, 2008, 09:41 AM
i am soooooooooo goooood rite now :)

Of course you do. A good nights sleep, and some food does wonders, and can easily erase those memories of yelling for "Earl" in the toilet bowl. A temporary reprieve, until you make smart decisive changes.:rolleyes:

talaniman
Feb 9, 2008, 12:15 PM
Comments on this postCheshire2008 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/cheshire2008.html) agrees: The funny thing about this situation with Alchoholics is you can tell them I have a cure for you problem but you must stop drinking they always negotiate with about when it is convient Now is never a good time


How can I give a greenie, to a greenie?? This is such a profound statement. So indicative to how the disease of alcoholism, warps your thinking, and plays tricks on your mind.

justme005
Feb 9, 2008, 01:18 PM
Greenie to a greenie? Hmm I don't get it.. haha

talaniman
Feb 9, 2008, 01:53 PM
When someone agrees with you they rate your post. This is called a greenie and goes toward your reputation for all to see. If I could have I would give the greenie I received, a greenie, Meaning I agree with her agreement. Ta dahhhh!!

justme005
Feb 9, 2008, 04:31 PM
Ohhhh I Seeeee :)

Cheshire2008
Feb 9, 2008, 06:20 PM
Thank you Talaniman I will revel in the honor of my greenie ; )
However I just have this vast knowledge from being around people who love to kill themselves slowly with a "Drug of their choice" in this case alcohol So as a result I went to many mettings with people who love to only say their first name. All I can say is they are the best friends I 've ever had and I never knew their last name : )
As for you just me you think this is the first time I have heard your story No
Your cure rests between 4 walls called AA believe me they only want you if your ready.
I love that people who drink in excess don't worry about people seeing them intoxicated
But worry that people will see them taking steps to better themselves by getting help and going to AA.

After reading your posts I don't see it. I really wish you were.

By The way The actual full quote is... Funny thing you can walk in a Cancer ward and say I have a cure and everyone would take it make the change and live.( Irony there is no cure)
But you walk in a room full of Alcoholics and say I have a cure ( By the way that works) and they say Oh now is not a good time can I start that after the holidays ! It's uncanny and unbelivable. Lol

HistorianChick
Feb 10, 2008, 07:51 AM
Justme - "only drinking on the weekends" is a step, yes, but it's not a committment. The only way you are going to break this addiction and conquer alcoholism is to make a commitment to stop. No amount of "baby steps" are going to get you there... only a real, true, honest commitment.

Kind of like the new Marine ad campaign, "We don't take applications, we only take committments."

Don't put in your application to stop drinking, committ to DO IT.

justme005
Feb 10, 2008, 09:56 AM
Wow... OK I see... thanks everyone!

oneguyinohio
Feb 10, 2008, 02:35 PM
Just wondering what it would take for you to seriously commit to the change? Rape, series of bad relationships, or something else? Whatever it is, I'm sure it can be arranged... not necessarily with your approval, but never the less...

justme005
Feb 10, 2008, 09:08 PM
I need help. Imwated and high, I dubbo 3hqt to do... smebody help me... I hooked up w.womeone I dident want too. Omg... I can't do this I canr... I need someone.. my adivors are maybe?

HistorianChick
Feb 11, 2008, 06:36 AM
Darling, we have given you the tools to bury this habit but we can't make you use them.

You MUST get help. AA is a necessity for you. You can't care how "uncomfortable" it makes you, you must go. This is bigger than your adviser. Go to AA.

You put yourself in a dangerous situation "hooking up with someone you didn't want to."

This is serious. Get help.

Cheshire2008
Feb 11, 2008, 09:48 AM
Just me I really want you to think on this. Go back and read your own posts.
The right step is
A "The thing is im really worried about this."
b. I did things and don't have a clue about it.
C Luckily I am around safe people
D I've been making good choices when it comes to guys.
I always used to drink this often and always have the same amount to get drunk.. I don't understand why all of a sudden

You are young in your addiction You are in school This is suppose to be the best time in your life. You have some much to look forward too.
Yes you can try to manage your drinking but I really think the drinking is managing you!
You are dealing with something stronger then yourself
Drinking is cunning baffling and powerful
Why the resistance to AA go to a few meetings just sit and listen I promise you you will hear stories that will sound familiar. You will find you are not alone. They do have AA by computer ( on Line) But it really is the feeling of communion with people and the connection that matters. Give it a shot I bet it will change your life . The choice is yours. What do you have to loose? Some groups have younger people but it is the old timers who have a lot to share. Keep looking to you have a group you feel connected with. Then you can pick a sponsor That is someone you can speak with everday who understands how you feel and will help you through this. My thoughts are with you.

justme005
Feb 11, 2008, 10:21 AM
Thank u all. I am very upset today :(

oneguyinohio
Feb 11, 2008, 02:42 PM
What are you going to do about being upset? If you're stewing in yout own juices, you probably don't need to marinate any further. So are you angry enough to do something about it?

justme005
Feb 11, 2008, 08:14 PM
I'm not drinking tonight. My head is spinning.

oneguyinohio
Feb 12, 2008, 09:19 AM
Round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows...

Fun fun fun... when you're tired of all the excitement you are bringing into your life, and are ready to take some serious positive steps toward a more rational approach, remember the advice you've been offered. No one is going to force you to do the walk. You got to take the steps yourself... but others will be willing to support you.

Continuing with the same behaviors but expecting to get different results is the definition of insanity.

Time to get off the merry go round... for your own sanity.

HistorianChick
Feb 12, 2008, 09:23 AM
Oneguy is right, justme.

Its time to get off the merry go round, take responsibility, and get help.

How you feeling this morning? Had enough?

justme005
Feb 12, 2008, 08:12 PM
This is my 8th night drinking... in a row... I think... wine again. I've been waiting all day to drink. We are suppose to take shots before my class tomorrow. I've gone to class drunk a few times... its fun but risky. Sort of.

I know I should talk to someone... or go to AA. I just cant.

J_9
Feb 12, 2008, 08:23 PM
Hun, we have helped you all we can. It is now up to you. YOU have to take the first step. You have to step through the door of AA. If we could do it for you, we would... but we can't.

The decision is now yours.

Do you want to stop or not?

In all honesty, coming from a family of alcoholics myself, I can tell you that we have done the best we can.

It is you who has to take responsibility for your actions, and you who has to take that leap to sobriety.

We have tried to help, we have tried to talk to you, but you seem to take our advice for a day or so. Having a sponsor, someone you can talk to face to face is soooooo much better than those of us who are faceless, and basically nameless. We can't knock on your door when you are wanting a drink... a sponsor with AA can.

The time is now for you to make the decision to quit or not. We have been through 123 posts now, and you are nowhere next to quitting.

I know it sounds harsh, and sometimes it has to be... But either get with the program or quit dragging us with you.

justme005
Feb 12, 2008, 08:43 PM
I understand. Thank you all for your help.

talaniman
Feb 12, 2008, 08:51 PM
You know what to do when your ready, There is no point in posting, until you are. Asking for help you don't need, is unfair to those that do, so keep this thread to remind you that people care, and tried, but its your turn to do what you got to do, Suffer some more, until you get enough.

justme005
Feb 12, 2008, 10:27 PM
I'm sorry for wasting all of your time.

oneguyinohio
Feb 12, 2008, 10:35 PM
Doesn't feel like wasted time to me, you can act on the info anytime you may choose. The advice won't go bad... You're just not convinced for your own reasons to act on what you're thinking about right now...

HistorianChick
Feb 13, 2008, 06:46 AM
I agree, hon. We all want to help you, we've given you the steps that you need to take to kick this addiction, AND we all care enough to still answer your posts... but, we are being realistic.

This is your decision. Your body is rejecting this addiction and is showing you through the physical problems that you described on the early pages of this thread. You are killing brain cells every time you "just drink a little" - there is no "little" when it comes to your addiction.

I wish you luck... and a backbone. To do what you know needs to be done.

talaniman
Feb 13, 2008, 06:58 AM
im sorry for wasting all of your time.

You are not wasting my time at all, I am where your trying to go, so its not a waste of my time, but your own.

peggyhill
Feb 13, 2008, 12:35 PM
I hope that you will be ready to get help soon. Please consider all the bad things that could happen when you drink too much when you make that decision. Go back and read your posts on here. Sometimes just saying that you're going to stop something isn't enough. You need to get help until you are strong enough to resist temptation on your own. I think that a rehab program would be the best thing for you. Also please talk to a doctor about what you are doing to your body.

I think everyone has given you lots of really good advice, but it is up to you to make the decision to change. It is your life and your responsibility. If you aren't willing to go to a rehab program now, then at least please consider it when classes are over for the semester and it's summer break. I wish you the best and please stay safe.

I think that things won't get better until you quit drinking, and I hope you realize this soon. Where do you see yourself in 10 years if you keep drinking like this?

justme005
Feb 13, 2008, 12:38 PM
No I don't see myself drinking. I see myself having a good job and drinking freely, not having to worry about being addicted and getting cancer.

HistorianChick
Feb 13, 2008, 12:42 PM
But Darlin, you've got to survive college first...

You have an awesome future ahead of you... when you get ahold of this addiction. You can have your dream, but you have to take responsibility for now. If you end up being raped, or in the hospital with alcohol poisoning, or blacked out somewhere, you seriously jeopardize your possible bright future.

Its all in your hands.

But you already know that.

Never-Again
Feb 13, 2008, 12:51 PM
All I have to say about that is pace yourself, in my town we're all really heavy drinkers it's crazy so it's easy for people to try and go overboard at times. I used to love doing shots which pretty much killed me so now I drink only mixes and if I feel too drunk I just stop mixing and have straght 7 up and nobody knows a thing it's good your surrounded by good people though just make sure you don't let alcohol ruin your life because it can and will eventually if you drink too much I've seen it happen a lot . The red face is because you drink and alcohol makes you feel warmer so you go red in the face and out of the shower your probably warm again . That's just my opinion though

justme005
Feb 13, 2008, 01:57 PM
Thanks. I just can't stop. I can't do it. It surrounds me. Its so much harder than all of you say. Oh yeah go to AA, get a sponsor... am I going to tell my friends? They will think I'm retarded. Its a lot more than you think. Trust me. I tried. I went I didn't like it. I don't want to go bak

justme005
Feb 13, 2008, 04:21 PM
Ahh! I have the worst headache ever... but it hurts real bad for like 3 seconds then goes away... then comes bak.. and so on and so forth.. is up w. thisss? Everyone here as a cold so maybe it's the start of one... but it's a weird kind of headache.

talaniman
Feb 13, 2008, 04:42 PM
Thank you for giving us a look at how easy it is to fall into being a drunk, and the denial that goes with it. Maybe you can't help yourself, but you are helping others see how powerful that stuff is, and how powerless we are against it.

justme005
Feb 13, 2008, 05:05 PM
Great.

talaniman
Feb 13, 2008, 06:51 PM
Just so you know, because I'm not picking on you at all. I have been there and done that, and they way I stay sober is helping others as a sponsor, (among other things) so I see people like you ALL the time. I have seen them come, and go, and come back, some live and sadly some die. Not to be harsh, but the ones who haven't made their choice either die, go to jail, go crazy as betsy bugs, or all the above. Its okay you haven't made your choice, because its obvious you haven't suffered enough to WANT to change. I think all of us were just trying to save you a lot of misery and pain, is all. But we know, sadly, you will have to feel it for yourself. That's why I don't mind telling you to have one on me.

justme005
Feb 13, 2008, 06:59 PM
I see.. your a sponsor? That's cool. Can I get one? Do I have to pay? Can I get one w.o going to AA? Haha

justme005
Feb 13, 2008, 09:20 PM
Ohhh so beat.

Never-Again
Feb 14, 2008, 12:06 PM
Your messing yourself up honestly get help ! If not then your going to look and feel like crap permanantly! You might even go insane but who knows your choices and you seem to make pretty bad choices lol sorry but it's trrue have fun drinking though.. see you

justme005
Feb 14, 2008, 09:00 PM
Fair enough.

simoneaugie
Feb 14, 2008, 10:34 PM
I used to drink in college, went to a lot of parties. My friends slowly went away though. There were new ones then, they'd hang around until I was drunk enough to give them money, or let them borrow my car. More than 10 years out of college, I had lost all of my friends, cars and jobs and, and.

They say that you have to hit bottom. Bottom is where, and when you stop digging. I should have stopped in college, but it was all around me and what would I tell my friends? The lesson can take hold in college, or it can become clear later.

It became clear to me when I worked (hungover) in a state run nursing home. Over 30% of the people living there, were there because of alcoholism. All the alkies were 35 or older. (That gives you what, about 12-15 years?) There was one man there who was in a wheelchair. His mouth was always open, because he didn't remember to shut it. He could not talk except in grunts and he ate whatever he could grab. Wrapped sandwiches went right in, plastic and all. He was 55, and his only real problem in his whole life was alcohol. They had plenty of wheelchairs, one for me, one for you.

AA is both anonymous and free. Sponsors do not charge and if you really want help, you've got it. AA however, is not for those who need it. It is there for those who want it. By going, you will meet other girls just like you. Then you will have friends who do not drink. There, you can get to know people who understand just how hard it is to quit.

justme005
Feb 14, 2008, 11:19 PM
I see...

justme005
Feb 15, 2008, 11:56 AM
OK so I am having this relationship thing going on rite now and it kind of ties into the whole alcohol and drugs thing.

This guy Brad has been friends w. me for 3 yrs now. He liked me frosh yr and asked me to date him. I rejected him, because I wasn't feeling into him. Now 3 yrs later we hooked when we were durnk the other night. Now he's asking me again if I can give him a chance... I kind of didn't respond and he got the vibe I didn't want to... he pouted, bicthed and asked me what I was feeling... I can't really put it into words, I just don't think he's rite for me. He drinks a lot... smokes pot and ciggs... he's not to into school. He's been introuble w. the school... and he moves very fast. He is all about sex and I am not. I'm always too scared w. the pregnancy thing. I've got so much on the line. He's very pushy and likes public affection... I never really had a "boyfriend" so I think I'm also feeling nervous to go into something especially w. him. I just think he's trouble, esp for me. I just don't know what to do because I do like him at times and sometimes I don't... but all he wants is a chance. He said we'll quit pot and alcohol together. But I no he can't he's tried before...

I'm sorry this is so long I just got bak from smoking w. him and having a long talk and I'm confused... and high... and I need some advice. You all have been so good to me and I trust your opionions.

Thanku.

HistorianChick
Feb 15, 2008, 12:03 PM
Honey! You can't say anything about or base any argument upon the fact that he "drinks a lot, smokes pot and cigs" because Darlin, you know your own addiction to alcohol (and, as you're writing this you admit to being "high" after coming back from smoking with him).

It sounds like you are seeing yourself in him and rejecting him because he is what you don't want to become...

Bottom line: you don't need to be in a relationship with anyone until you are well enough to be IN the relationship. You need to take care of yourself before you even think of a guy.

talaniman
Feb 15, 2008, 02:48 PM
I have already read your other posts, and being inexperienced has caused you to focus on the wrong things. When you are ambiguous as you are to a relationship, then Don't do it. Leave yourself open to other options that may be healthier, and more emotionally rewarding. Why screw up with the first thing that shows you attention?

peggyhill
Feb 15, 2008, 02:56 PM
You need to focus on your mental health before you worry about a relationship. Once you are sober and on track, then you can look for a guy with the attributes you want. You should steer clear of this guy. Don't be with someone you don't feel that way about. Tell him that the only reason you "hooked up" was because you were drinking and, no offence, he isn't the guy for you. Tell him it was a mistake and you are sorry if it led him on. You won't get him to quit, he will get you to drink and use drugs more. When you go into the relationship trying to change someone, it usually doesn't work. More often than not, the person you are trying to change drags you down with him/her.

justme005
Feb 15, 2008, 03:07 PM
Wow.. thanks for the advice... I think I will tell him.. no ofense your just not for me... when he asked why what should I say? Lol

peggyhill
Feb 15, 2008, 03:15 PM
Just tell him the truth. Tell him that you aren't attracted to him in that way. Tell him that you don't think being in a relationship with someone who drinks and does drugs is a good thing for you. Tell him that you aren't ready for a relationship right now and that he moves too fast for you as far as sex. Hope this helps! :)

justme005
Feb 15, 2008, 03:30 PM
Wow... thanks again. I hope this works... he's the last thing I need. I think this is the rite thing to do. Hopefully I can tell him...

talaniman
Feb 15, 2008, 03:47 PM
The truth is you only like him when your drunk. It may break his heart, but he can drown that in a bottle. (most people look better when your drunk, that holds for all of us)

Wondergirl
Feb 15, 2008, 03:55 PM
i think this is the rite thing to do. hopefully i can tell him...

No. Say it this way:

This is the right thing to do.

I will tell him.

In fact, don't tell him anything. Stay away from him.

justme005
Feb 15, 2008, 04:20 PM
OK even better. But thatll be tough

peggyhill
Feb 15, 2008, 04:43 PM
It'll be tough but it's the best thing for you. And the best thing for him too, although he may not see it that way at first. Otherwise he will be hanging around you, hoping that maybe he has a chance, when in reality he has none. He might be sad, but I'm sure he will appreciate your honesty.

talaniman
Feb 15, 2008, 04:44 PM
Who ever said life was easy??

justme005
Feb 15, 2008, 07:41 PM
I did. Haha

justme005
Feb 17, 2008, 09:54 AM
I need help.

talaniman
Feb 17, 2008, 10:52 AM
We know.

justme005
Feb 17, 2008, 08:29 PM
Drrrrrrrrrrrunnnnnnnnnnk again. Talking to mymadviors tomorrow. If I have the balls.

oneguyinohio
Feb 17, 2008, 08:45 PM
I'm about ready to unsubscribe from this thread. I can go to any bar on any day of the week and watch as some woman gets drunk and whores around... there is a reason I don't though... I find those skanks repulsive. I don't need to invite them into my home to read about them on here.

Enjoy your life as well as whatever problems you encounter.

Wondergirl
Feb 17, 2008, 08:59 PM
I know how you feel, oneguy. What else can anyone possibly say? The ball is in her court.

justme005
Feb 17, 2008, 10:25 PM
Everyone.

HistorianChick
Feb 18, 2008, 06:26 AM
So? How's the head this morning? Stomach?

Is today the day you're going to get help?

Cheshire2008
Feb 18, 2008, 10:15 AM
Just me
You have been discussing this since January and you still have not spoken to anyone.
We are just a board You need a live fesh and blood sponsor. The rest of your life is waiting. You need to take action not tomorrow not maybe you need to do this. We cannot sit here and watch you slip over and over and say it is OK. What are you afraid of?
The council you seek is in front of you. Talk to someone let them in. they will show compassion. No one will think less of you I promise. I am sure they will want to help as much as we have all wanted to help you.

justme005
Feb 18, 2008, 05:33 PM
OK folks.. I did something rite for a change. I told my advisor. It was weird and scary but I feel better... he's like, why did you want to tel me? And I was like I think it be a god idea to talk to someone and I was told to do so by some friends. So he's like don't drink tonight.. try and stop and check for red flags. Such as, not lseeping, shaking, heart racing. He wants to check bak in w. me on Friday after class. You think this was an OK idea? Even though he's my teacher and advisor he's easy for me to talk to and stuff... and it's a way for me to vent to someone in person.

OK I haven't eaten today and its 7:30pm... holy god. I got to get on that!

Thank you all!
YOU ROCK!

Cheshire2008
Feb 18, 2008, 06:11 PM
It's a start and see it wasn't so bad. Now you need a professional who can help you with your problem someone who has experience. I hope you will pursue this and be as honest as possible
Best wishes

justme005
Feb 18, 2008, 06:23 PM
What you mean professional? He is a professional therapist... hopefully I work things out. I do have alcohol in my fridge though and I was told not to drink tonight... this will be a challenge

Cheshire2008
Feb 18, 2008, 06:26 PM
What kind of therapist is he? There are many different kinds and they have different specialtys.

Rockabilly1955mama
Feb 18, 2008, 06:27 PM
Yes, I do agree. I think you should seek some professional help as well. All in all, I wish you the best of luck with your addiction. And if I were you, I would throw that alcohol out.

justme005
Feb 18, 2008, 06:51 PM
He is a music therapist... he's got his dr. he helps all kinds of people.. and music therpy is used in rehabs and w. drugs so...

Rockabilly1955mama
Feb 18, 2008, 06:56 PM
Have you thought about going to AA meetings?

Fr_Chuck
Feb 18, 2008, 07:02 PM
At an early stage of stoping, having it anywhere in the house, as a challenge is seriously dangerious, there should not be any in the house and you can call and talk to someone, if you feel like going out to get it.

Please consider a AA program with experienced drinking couselors.

justme005
Feb 18, 2008, 07:23 PM
I see... I haven't opened the bottle yet so...

Rockabilly1955mama
Feb 18, 2008, 07:25 PM
But do you still have alcohol around you?

justme005
Feb 18, 2008, 07:53 PM
Yehhhh...

I was just thinking about this... can my advsor get me in toruble since he knows I'm not 21... he said he thinks it will be OK but he has to check some legal issues first.. I don't know what this means.. now I'm scared.. maybe this was a bad in idea.

justme005
Feb 19, 2008, 04:54 PM
My throat is so sore... but a weird sore.. like I'm not sick... I'm just tired, not eating and have a slight headache. Cold coming on? Ahhhhhh! Lol

J_9
Feb 19, 2008, 06:50 PM
How long has it been since you had a drink? Now tell truthfully.

susangpyp
Feb 19, 2008, 07:15 PM
It sounds as if you are starting to have trouble drinking and it's only going to get worse. You really need to read up on alcoholism and see if you fit the profile because social drinkers don't really black out. Go to a few AA meetings and identify, don't compare. It's only going to get worse so be careful.

J_9
Feb 19, 2008, 08:24 PM
Apparently you are not ready for help yet. We have tried until we have beat our heads into a brick wall, yet you don't listen.

This is going to sound harsh, and yes, I mean it to be. We have tried here to help you, but you need more help than we can give.

Either sh!t or get off the pot. By that I mean either get help or don't it's your choice.

Some people have unsubscribed from this post because they are tired of giving you advice and you not taking it.

Be a drunk if you want, get kidney failure, cirrhosis of the liver if you want. We have tried, but you don't listen.

Is it a joke to you? Are you playing us? Are you having fun? Or is this a real problem? Do I smell a troll?

This is post 180 and you have done nothing to help yourself, but we have taken our time to help you. What more do you want from us? We can't come to your house and pour out the liquor, put out the joint... that is something you have to do.

So, again, tell us... what more do you want us to do? The decision to keep drinking or stop is yours, and yours alone. There is nothing more we can do for you.

THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT!!

Rockabilly1955mama
Feb 19, 2008, 08:33 PM
Sometimes, people need to hear the harsh, blunt truth to get it through their heads. Lets hope this helps justme005. If you want to get better from your sickness, you have to cure it! And if you wanted it cured, this forum would have ended ALONG time ago. It's obvious it's only going to get worse, might as well try to fix the problem before it gets to that point. We can only do so much, you have to do the rest, and that would be to get help.

justme005
Feb 19, 2008, 09:20 PM
I am getting help.

Cheshire2008
Feb 20, 2008, 06:35 AM
I echo J9's sentiments This thread can go on 4 ever with the same result.

justme005
Feb 22, 2008, 05:27 PM
My advisor has been calling me every day since I told him my problem to check in w. me. I think this is very nice of him. I will meet up w. him Monday to talk and we will go from there. I had a good 2 nites of no drinking and then last night I blew it by having a black out. So.. I decided to write in a journal everyday since my thoughts are so confused when I'm sober. I have lack of energy and motivation when I'm sober. I feel worthless and hopeless. But I know I am not. Its just a feeling.

talaniman
Feb 22, 2008, 05:49 PM
Alcohol is a depressant!! Your supposed to feel bad.

justme005
Feb 24, 2008, 11:17 AM
Okk so what r your thoughts on the dietary supplement melatonin? It helps w. sleeping... think I shoud try it out, its over the counter.

talaniman
Feb 24, 2008, 11:24 AM
Stop drinking, and you'll sleep like a baby, and wake up refreshed. Nice try, to change the focus.

justme005
Feb 24, 2008, 11:51 AM
I have trouble sleeping if I don't drink though...

talaniman
Feb 24, 2008, 11:56 AM
Could it be you are passing out? The last thing you need before going to bed is a drink. Your body rhythm is all screwed up, and you need to clean your system out, and get back in rhythm

justme005
Feb 24, 2008, 12:08 PM
Okkk I'm starting tonight. I have a ton of hw anyway so I won't be able to party until like next weekend maybe.

HistorianChick
Mar 4, 2008, 10:50 AM
Just checking up - how you doing? Did you get the help that you need?

justme005
Mar 4, 2008, 11:56 AM
Hey... thanks for checking up! So here's the deal... haha... umm I told my advisor about 3 weeks ago that I think I may be getting off track and I have an alcohol issue. Once I told him I drank for 19 nites in a row and told him the situation he "was concerned about me". So he told me to try and stop for a week and see if I see any red flags (not sleeping, heart racing) all signs of addiction. He called me every day for a week to see how I was doing. After that we just met up on Monday Friday of the next week. He says I need to get some help. I made a promise of not drinking for a week and I drank for like 2 or 3 nites out of the week... so he said he was not convinced I could do it and was very concerned. I told him some sypmtons I was having and he said they were not good. But I told him I was OK and I could do it on my own, I know I could. So we left off that I am not drinking this week. I will meet up w. him Friday. If I break my promise again I have to get help for sure. If not I do not know what he will tell me... ill have to wait and see. So far I am doing good. No drinking Sunday night or Monday night. So I got to make it till Friday. He has been so nice to me and sometimes I regret he knows the real me. He is my advisor and he's an important person in my educational future. Well now he knows what I am going through and hopefully can help me out a bit.

Thanks for your concern ill let you know how my week is going!

justme005
Mar 7, 2008, 11:27 PM
If anyone is still out there...

As we all know I always have blackouts when I drink. My head has been hurting so bad all the time now? Do you think somehting is wrong w. me and my body? I am so tired of this!!

HistorianChick
Mar 10, 2008, 05:51 AM
Are you still drinking?

justme005
Mar 10, 2008, 06:58 AM
Yes but not everyday...

HistorianChick
Mar 10, 2008, 07:03 AM
DARLIN! You're not going to stop blacking out, having headaches, losing time until you stop drinking! It's that simple!

Yes, there is something wrong with your body. But I can't tell you if you have irreparable damage to your kidneys or other organs, I can tell you that you're on your way to passing the point of no return.

Honey, you have just got to stop. Having a counselor to help you is a great step, but its not going to help anything if you don't choose to stop.

justme005
Mar 10, 2008, 04:24 PM
I know... he's beeen really helpful.. he gave me this sheet survey thing today and told me to fill it out in my spare time. I just did it and of course it says I have a drinking problem. Now tell me something I don't know! Haha. Anyway, we will see what happens. I leave the country to greece on thurs for 10 days so thatll cheer me up! Haha

HistorianChick
Mar 11, 2008, 11:03 AM
Greece sounds very nice. Why not take these 10 days and not drink - get it out of your system. You'll be away from your normal crowd... this may be your best chance to start your recovery...

justme005
Mar 11, 2008, 02:34 PM
Yea maybe... I've been thinking about this so much and I've come to the conclusion that I cannot do this on my own like I've been saying. I just cant. I need help. I don't know what to do though. I wish this would just go away. I can never sleep if I don't drink. I feel paraluyzed in my sleep, I sweat like no other, I'm jittery. I'm talking to my advisor when I get bak and admitting I want help and don't know how to and don't really want to. Ahhh! My life is scaring me.

HistorianChick
Mar 12, 2008, 04:02 AM
Good. I'm glad you've realized that you need help.

Its up to you. I still believe in you, but you must make the decision.

Scottish2008
Mar 12, 2008, 04:43 AM
Good. I'm glad you've realized that you need help.

Its up to you. I still believe in you, but you must make the decision.
I agree. This has been going on for a long time now. You know you have a problem and you need to fix it. Get help go to AA and salve it. The only way to give it up is all together. If not it will come to a point in your life that your life as a hole will be hanging off a thread and you will be wishing that you did something for it way back. Well this is way back. Stop drinking and take peoples advise and go to AA. I am, not trying to be a bother about it but you do need help mentally. Basically you need detox. What do you think?

justme005
Mar 12, 2008, 06:55 AM
Yes. I believe everyone. I need help. Its just a matter of doing it now. I can't even believe I am in this position. I'm a bad person. w. a messed up life rite now. I'm only 20 yrs old. How can be an alcoholic? Haha. I don't know... ill try and fix this the best I can.

HistorianChick
Mar 13, 2008, 05:53 AM
ill try and fix this the best i can.

Darlin, the key is YOU can't do it by yourself. You must get help. If anything, this thread has shown you that you cannot do it on your own.

I'm glad you've realized this - now just do it. :)

justme005
May 23, 2008, 08:39 PM
I don't want to die at a young age...

simoneaugie
May 23, 2008, 09:32 PM
Dying from alcohol is no fun at any age. Alcohol kills more people in on week, in one large city than all the other drug deaths of the entire nation in a year!

Find something else to do. Quit swallowing poison.

susangpyp
May 24, 2008, 06:51 AM
Alcoholism doesn't care what you want. If you don't want to die then get help. Go to an AA meeting and tell people what you're experiencing.

justme005
May 25, 2008, 08:27 PM
Yes I know... I am home now and just drinking wine a few nites a week and not experiencing any hangovers or blackouts. I am also eating healthy and going to the gym 4 times a week. I feel like things have turned around for me. The only thing is, I always think about how much fun I had in school, drinking and stuff, and I do miss it. I also think a lot about what I did when I told my advisor at college about this... Its all so weird for me. I'm getting a new roommate next semester and my friend was like "oh i hope u dont turn her into an alcoholic" and was laughing about it. Alcohol is something that defines me now. People associate it w. me all the time. I don't like that. She said this in front of teachers and my advisor and I felt embarrassed. I need to get through this summer healthy and hopefully follow through w. it during the year... I'm just so scared I'll fall back into bad habits...

Thank you all.