Since, the main thread we used to discuss about Diana Stalder products has been closed, I don't know anywhere else to discuss problems (if any), ask questions, get help & stuff about Diana Stalder products, so I decided to open a new thread. :) So, let's discuss about Diana Stalder here!

Why exactly the thread got closed? Too many spam I guess. :p

Must have shut down due to all the drama. :D
Anyone been using DS around their eyes? I've had to stop because my skin around there has been stinging like crazy!

Must have shut down due to all the drama. :D
Anyone been using DS around their eyes? I've had to stop because my skin around there has been stinging like crazy!!
I have been using DS cream under my eyes for over a week now. No stinging yet. :p

For people living in the US, how long did it take for you to receive your DS products?

The old thread got kind of out of control, but not to the point where it should be closed, but thanks for this new one.
HOPEFULLY sellers won't try to promote their products here, because its getting rediculously frustrating.

What happened to the main thread of DS?

Got closed due to all the spam and drama from WOE.

When you guys used the kojic soap for the first week did it make your skin a little red? Also my skin doesn't peel does that mean its not working correctly?

Yes it made my skin red and after a few weeks I began peeling.

Yes it made my skin red and after a few weeks I began peeling.

Did you use the soap everyday? Also how long did it take for the redness to fade away?

Did you use the soap everyday? Also how long did it take for the redness to fade away?

Yes I used the soap and crème twice a day. My skin then became really sore and red so I gave my skin a break for a week, then continued using it. Had no redness after that.

How long do you guys keep the soap on your face?

I used to keep it on for 10 minutes but it was too harsh. So now just leave it on for 2 minutes.

I used the black soap & the cream every other day for the first week. My face started to feel sore on the 4th day but I try to keep with the regimen. I left the soap foam on my face for around 7 minutes for the first 3 days & after that 3 minutes because my face felt really sore.

After the first week, I use the black soap twice a day & the cream every night.

How long did take you guys to notice a difference in your skin tone?

It took me several weeks! But only a slight change. I now use bio claire which is helping a lot!

It took me several weeks!! But only a slight change. I now use bio claire which is helping alot!!

Where did you purchase bio claire? Also, how long does it take with bio claire to notice a change in skin tone?

I purchased Bio Claire from a black beauty shop. It was cheap. Been using it since Sunday and noticed a slight colour change already! I am using the lotion. Not the cream. :)

I just ordered some Diana Stalder products yesterday and waiting for them to arrive. I wanted to know how many shades lighter can you become? How long will it take? Will it lighten the whole body as well as the face?

And which is better, Diana Stalder or Bio Clair?

Some people have found that DS has lightened them up lots. But it only slightly lightened me up and I have been using it for a few months. I love the black soap though. It keeps my skin pimple free.
I have been using Bio Claire since Sunday and it has already started to lighten me up.

I tried the kajoic soap today and it is really irritating.. my skinn is so red. Especially this small part on my forehead.. I don't feel like using it anymore.. it looks really bad.. has anyone else experienced this? Is this normal?
I think Im going to stick to the black soap for the face.

I tried the kajoic soap today and it is really irritating..my skinn is soo red. especially this small part on my forehead.. I dont feel like using it anymore..it looks really bad..has anyone else experienced this? is this normal?
I think Im going to stick to the black soap for the face.

During the first week that's what happened to me... my skin became really red, and was very irritating. So, I stopped using it the next day and then when I did apply the soap again I only kept it on my face for like 2 minutes. After the first week, I was able to keep the soap longer on my face without the redness and irritation.

I HATE THE PAPAYA KOJIC SOAP! Black soap is better. ;)

I HATE THE PAPAYA KOJIC SOAP! Black soap is better. ;)

Is the black soap made from licorice? Does anyone know?
Yeah I don't think I can stand this kajoic soap.. my mom was like " what happened to your face""? --- I was really embarrassed...
Nywhoo Im sticking to the black soap

The papaya soap made me come out in some kind of rash and when it went left a dark patch behind. It's faded though, not completely.
Black soap contains kojic acid and fruit extracts.

It took me several weeks!! But only a slight change. I now use bio claire which is helping alot!!
After 2 weeks of using the DS products, my skin has only lightened slightly. I'm planning to use the papaya kojic soap on my face. I also plan to take glutathione pills. :)

Where can I find DS products because the southgain eBay site is selling baseball cards now lol..

And where do I find bio claire products!

There are other eBay sellers so try searching for them.
I got my Bio Claire from a black beauty store but can also be purchased online. Think from a site called guesso?

After 2 weeks of using the DS products, my skin has only lightened slightly. I'm planning to use the papaya kojic soap on my face. I also plan to take glutathione pills. :)

Let me know how the pills go. I'm a bit skeptical about them. :)

where can i find DS products b/c the southgain ebay site is selling baseball cards now lol..?

and where do i find bio claire products!?

You can get bio claire from eBay. I got my bio claire from eBay

I am using the DS malasma kit(from southgain) with papaya soap for 2 weeks now. I haven't seen any noticeable change on my skintone but I found there are hair on both side of my cheeks where there were no hair at all. I didn't got any redness or peeling.
Moreover when I cook something, I found darker shade on my cheeks due to the heat.

I used to use bio claire that made me very fair but after 2 months bio-claire stopped working. I was told that I need to give 1 month resting period before I can go back to bio claire again. I was hoping DS and bio-claire would be the solution but no luck yet.

Hey.
I just want to let you know, I came across an eBay store that sells DS products & they are the cheapEST! Had to add the last 3 letters in! :p
I don't know if they're genuine but I've read through her feedbacks & saw several eBay members said they're genuine. Her feedbacks are 100% positive! A set consisting of a bar of soap, a bottle of lotion & a jar of cream costs $17 (excluding shipping)! And yes, they're labeled!
eBay Store - BABYKINGDOM888 INFANT STORE PLUS: DIANA STALDER Soap Cream Kit: (http://stores.ebay.com/BABYKINGDOM888-INFANT-STORE-PLUS_DIANA-STALDER-Soap-Cream-Kit_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ10481175QQftidZ2QQtZkm)

Anyway, PunkChic I want to try the one from superwhiteningpills.net/glow2thione.com. They sound promising! :D

I ordered my DS from Babykingdom too. She's rather cheap. :)

I ordered my DS from Babykingdom too. She's rather cheap. :)
So are they really genuine?

Yes they are! :)

It took me several weeks!! But only a slight change. I now use bio claire which is helping alot!!
Hi PunkChic could you update me on your progress using bio claire? Does it burn your skin like sosexy said happened to her?

Bio Claire does not sting at all. It is slowly lightening up my skin. I am only using the lotion. I put it on my face, knees, and toes.

Bio Claire does not sting at all. It is slowly lightening up my skin. I am only using the lotion. I put it on my face, knees, and toes.
Ok great!! Thanks I ll consider buying this soon!!

Hello Ann07, Bio clair did not burn or sting when I was applying it. After a while my skin looked burnt, it was excessively dry and turned BLACK. But during the application it wasn't stinging. It was after resutls.

Hi PunkChic could you update me on your progress using bio claire? does it burn your skin like sosexy said happened to her?

Hello Ann07, Bio clair did not burn or sting when I was applying it. After a while my skin looked burnt, it was excessively dry and turned BLACK. but during the application it wasnt stinging. It was after resutls.

I'm guessing the reason you got dark skin was due to mixing. I'm only using the lotion. :)

Punkchic did you receive your freshup sample yet ?

Sosexy thanks for the reply how's your skin now is it better?

No. I haven't got my fresh up sample yet. :confused:

I'm still waiting too

Yes it is better now. Actually it did indeed lighten the lower part of my arms. This just shows us that we are all different people and we will get different results. And our own skin is different in different ares. Only the upper part of my arms and my inner thighs burnt. Of course I stopped using but after about 2 weeks I noticed that from my elbow down my arms had turned really light.

Sosexy thanks for the reply hows your skin now is it better?

Hello Ann07, Bio clair did not burn or sting when I was applying it. After a while my skin looked burnt, it was excessively dry and turned BLACK. but during the application it wasnt stinging. It was after resutls.
For 3 weeks I am using papaya soap and whitening cream(in fact whole melasma set, just changed papaya soap for black soap and whitening cream for lightening cream from southgain). So far I didn't even felt any sting as all of you are saying and no lightening at all. I even keep the soap for 10 minutes. What might be the case for me?

Ffazil,

Diana Stalder never worked for me either. I found bio claire much more effective.

DS slightly lightened me. It caused me some problems like burning, dark marks, etc. But not much lightening.

ffazil,

Diana Stalder never worked for me either. I found bio claire much more effective.
I completely agree with you. But you need at least 2-3 different good products to keep you lighten all year long.

I just ordered Diana Stalder papaya and kojic acid bleaching soap and I've only been using this stuff for four days--already my face looks brighter/lighter and clearer (I use in morning and at night and leave on for 5-10 min). It does sting at times--the first two days it did not sting but these last two days it has been stinging and the results are showing better.

And I am like a medium/mocha brown or Whitney Houston's complexion naturally and the stuff is working for me already. My skin has darkened over the years so really it's just brightening back to my regular brighter complexion underneath so far.

SO FAR I'm doing OK with Diana Stalder...

I just ordered Diana Stalder papaya and kojic acid bleaching soap and I've only been using this stuff for four days--already my face looks brighter/lighter and clearer (I use in morning and at night and leave on for 5-10 min). It does sting at times--the first two days it did not sting but these last two days it has been stinging and the results are showing better.

And I am like a medium/mocha brown or Whitney Houston's complexion naturally and the stuff is working for me already. my skin has darkened over the years so really it's just brightening back to my regular brighter complexion underneath so far.

SO FAR I'm doing ok with Diana Stalder...

I like the products too! My results were not as fast and dramatic but my face is milk chocolate (slightly darker than naomi campbell) but my body is very light. So I just have to give it more time

i like the products too! My results were not as fast and dramatic but my face is milk chocolate (slightly darker than naomi campbell) but my body is very light. So i just have to give it more time

Yeah keep us all updated on your progress! :)

Since, the main thread we used to discuss about Diana Stalder products has been closed, I don't know anywhere else to discuss problems (if any), ask questions, get help & stuff about Diana Stalder products, so I decided to open a new thread. :) So, let's discuss about Diana Stalder here!

Why exactly the thread got closed? Too many spam I guess. :p
What about side effects dose diana stalder products safe to use, I have an Arabian skin yellowish skin I noticed the skin between my thighs have darkened ,I want to bleach the dark skin between my thighs, knees, elbow

i like the products too! My results were not as fast and dramatic but my face is milk chocolate (slightly darker than naomi campbell) but my body is very light. So i just have to give it more time
Me and my friend started using DS products on Jan 1st,2008. My friend stopped it on 29th February as she didn't have any effect what so ever on DS. For me, it only lighten me very slight and yet the result is inconsistent. Bio claire made me much lighter. I think DS don't work for all.

Me and my friend started using DS products on Jan 1st,2008. My friend stopped it on 29th February as she didnt have any effect what so ever on DS. For me, it only lighten me very slight and yet the result is inconsistant. Bio claire made me much lighter. I think DS dont work for all.


Yes you are right the results are not dramatic but I am now one shade lighter and I have been using it for 2 months. I tries Bio Claire but for some reason I did not trust it on my face because when I used it for a couple days I noticed a some spots I didn't have before. How dark are you and your friend?

I just ordered Diana Stalder papaya and kojic acid bleaching soap and I've only been using this stuff for four days--already my face looks brighter/lighter and clearer (I use in morning and at night and leave on for 5-10 min). It does sting at times--the first two days it did not sting but these last two days it has been stinging and the results are showing better.

And I am like a medium/mocha brown or Whitney Houston's complexion naturally and the stuff is working for me already. my skin has darkened over the years so really it's just brightening back to my regular brighter complexion underneath so far.

SO FAR I'm doing ok with Diana Stalder...

I'm OK so far with the DS products too.
3 days using the soap and cream twice a day and
My face is TIGHT. I need a good moisturizer to apply.

I am avoiding letting the soap come in contact with
The corners of my nose, it stings there ouch!

This is a definitely a great peeling soap, I did look
Lighter but that was because my face was ashy. LOL!

I usually lighten up with products in two weeks,
So around the first of April I will see if this product is working.

How's everybody else doing?

Do Diana Stalder products thin the skin?

Do Diana Stalder products thin the skin??

No, not that I have observed. I have been using the products for 3 months now and I am pretty happy with it. My results have been slow and steady but so far my skin has glow and has improved a lot.

Whoohoo!
This Kojic Acid Soap is no joke! :eek:
I'm already flaking.

I washed my face and with the water still on I rubbed my skin in a circular motion and could feel
The skin balling up, so there is definitely exfoliation
Going on. My skin also itched. It felt like it did when I used the TCA peel from perfectcomplexion.

Using this soap is like having a mini peel being done, which I think will make any cream penetrate
The skin more easily.

My skin is still a bit tight so I grabbed some Oil of
Olay at the store to use as a moisturizer. My skin is very smooth now.

No, not that i have observed. I have been using the products for 3 months now and i am pretty happy with it. My results have been slow and steady but so far my skin has glow and has improved a lot.
I used DS for a little over a month & then stopped for 2 months after I heard that some skin lightening products thin the skin. Furthermore, DS products make skin peeling. That can make sense. Anyway, my DS cream has ran out. So, I 'm wondering if the lotion can be used on the face? :confused:

Sugarblush, if you intend to apply the lotion on your face, I think it's best to mix a little with your regular moisturiser (without skin-lightening ingredients) cause body lotion are usually made with a higher % of active ingredients as it's for tougher skin and might be too strong to be applied directly on the face.:)

My sister is using the new Diana Stalder product right now which consists of whitening cream, toner and body lotion. The packaging is better than the old one. It comes in a box and sealed. She said its much better than the old diana stalder product. I want to try it too.

The new brand is called Simply White by Diana Stalder.

Its not simply white----its SURELY WHITE.:)

You know when I look at the testimonials I just
Noticed that when it comes to lightening the black
Soap is getting the most positive reviews.

I bought the Kojic Acid Soap, which by the way is
Working out great, my skin is so smooth.
This is the first time using a papaya soap.

This soap is really working.
The active ingredients is really active. Lol
I just never thought soap could make a difference
Or really do anything cause it's not on your face for
Very long, but not this soap!

I heard of lightening soaps but never believed in
Them,so I am going to purchase the black soap.

If the black soap lightens as well as the Kojic soap
Exfoliates I will be so happy.:)

P.S.

I used the Kojic soap in the shower.
It made my "private part" hurt.:o
So I won't be applying it there anymore! Lol

nikkicute, the Kojic soap is quite irritating so don't leave it on the skin long.

The Kojic Soap is for Non-Sensitive Skin. Between the Black and Kojic Soap, I prefer the Black Soap.

I used DS for a little over a month & then stopped for 2 months after I heard that some skin lightening products thin the skin. Furthermore, DS products make skin peeling. That can make sense. Anyway, my DS cream has ran out. So, I 'm wondering if the lotion can be used on the face?? :confused:

I am sure you can use it on the face, but lotion does not have a high concentration like the cream so it may take longer to see results.

its not simply white----its SURELY WHITE.:)

Surely White Officially Launched.

Diana Stalder’s premium line, Surely White was officially launched during the third anniversary celebration of Diana Stalder by Dermaline Direct Sales on December 22, 2007, at the Celebrity Sports Plaza in Quezon City.

With the theme “Let There Be White” the celebration was a fitting occasion for the launching of Surely White since authorized distribution Center (ADC) owners of DDS and franchisees of Dermaline Facial and Skin Care Center were in attendance.

The CEU Black Theater provided the theatrical introduction to the appearance of the eight models in all-white attires, who walked and pranced down the ramp carrying the products. The sudden shift from black and dark to white and light gave life to the theme “Let There Be White” and Surely White came into official being!

Diana Stalder Surely White products are guaranteed to whiten skin in just a week, and come in three formulations; tones, lotion, cream. The Skin Toner, Body Whitening Lotion, Lightening Lotion, Whitening Cream, and Lightening Cream come in elegantly designed white and green box, complete with security seal.

LOL! Wow they really went all out to introduce a lightening product didn't they?

Pretty bottles (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/surelywhite.html) but I wonder does this line really work to lighten the skin in a week:confused:

Products that claim to lighten skin within a week really do put me off buying it. It seems inaccurate.
The amount of time it should really take to lighten is within a couple of weeks to even months. But maybe it could be possible to see a little difference in a week, and that's about it really!! Just be wary about products that claim to lighten you fast. Lightening the skin is usually a lengthy process.

Hope that helps.
:)

Hi
I received my DS creams+soaps on Saturday.
I first use the papaya soap(the orange one);it stings only around lips.I really feel so clean when I wash my face.
After that I use the whitening cream(for my face) and the lightening lotion(for the body).
Do you think I can apply a moisturizing cream after that?And is the toner necessary?
I will tell you how is my skin after some time but I think I will have to wait cause I used cream with HQ before so...
Also I love the smell of the whitening cream.so nice!! but the jar is so small!! I was really surprised when I first saw it!lol

I came across a site and it looks like DS but its called Dermaline.Can you tell me if there are same products?Whitening Skin Care – Face and Body Skin Whitening Treatments (http://www.skin-whitening-product.com/whitening-skin-care.html)
Thanks

And how can we be sure that these products don't conatins HQ?

Dermaline belongs in the Diana Stalder Group of companies.

OK that's why it looks similar
Thanks Nadine

But, let me warn you, the unlabelled DS product has different formula than the branded DS. The unbranded ones has HQ in it

And how can we be sure that these products dont conatins HQ?

We can't!
Unless someone has the products tested because
I can't go by "my friend said" "someone said" etc...

We really can't and I'm not just talking about the DS line of products I'm talking about all of them.

Just have to hope the seller is telling the truth.

Does anyone know if there's a difference between the original Diana Stalder products and the new surely white products by Diana Stalder?

Does anyone know if theres a difference between the original Diana Stalder products and the new surely white products by Diana Stalder?

It's double the strength of the regular DS and they are premium product of DS. The Surely White Body Whitening Lotion have vitamin C while the regular don't have it.

but, let me warn you, the unlabelled DS product has different formula than the branded DS. the unbranded ones has HQ in it
Really? This is confusing.

Hi
I was googling DS and found this.I thought its interesting.
Look at the first post of this page: Diana Stalder Products (http://www.candymag.com/teentalk/index.php?topic=162670.msg3455815)

And here she post pics of the branded DS products:Diana Stalder Products (http://www.candymag.com/teentalk/index.php/topic,162670.750.html)

If I'm right Southgain on eBay sell the DS products which doesn't contain HQ.
I hope cause I bought them from him.

And Nikkiecute can you tell me how is your skin?are you still using DS?have you noticed some lightening?
I don't really understand how the soap works.I mean it removes the dead cells right?
But I doesn't block melanine processus?and the creams?it seems the soap is stronger than the cream...

Also Nikkicute have you bought the Neutrogena sunblock?I'm still hesitating between the spf45 or spf 55.I read that as its not greasy its doesn't protects very well cause a sunblock is good when its greasy and not thin,light... strange

:eek: This is scary...

I think I used the one from filipina goddess (ebay) a couple of times. And she assured me that her products are totally safe without HQ, mercury or steroids... :mad:

But it irritated my skin and I stopped... whew... ;)

hi
I was googling DS and found this.I thought its interesting.
look at the first post of this page: Diana Stalder Products (http://www.candymag.com/teentalk/index.php?topic=162670.msg3455815)

and here she post pics of the branded DS products:Diana Stalder Products (http://www.candymag.com/teentalk/index.php/topic,162670.750.html)

If im right Southgain on ebay sell the DS products which doesnt contain HQ.
I hope cause i bought them from him.

And Nikkiecute can you tell me how is your skin?r u still using DS?have u noticed some lightening?
I dont really understand how the soap works.I mean it removes the dead cells right?
But i doesnt block melanine processus?and the creams?it seems the soap is stronger than the cream....

Also Nikkicute have u bought the Neutrogena sunblock?im still hesitating between the spf45 or spf 55.I read that as its not greasy its doesnt protects very well cause a sunblock is good when its greasy and not thin,light...strange

Wow thanks so much for the very informative links!

I'm not surprised that the Stalder company sells
different products for distribution.
Companies do this all the time.

Banana Republic (expensive brand)
The Gap (middle priced products)
Old Navy (least expensive)
= All the same company.

But what is confusing is ALL claim to be the higher
end "real" DS product.
"mine is real just unlabeled to save you money"
"ours is real with labels don't buy from unlabeld sellers"
I just want to know if the cream inside is real. Know what I mean?

My skin is fine.
The soap does not sting me anymore! Yeah!
I think I see a slight lightening.
The products would work better and faster if they did not have petroleum in them. Creams start to work for me within two weeks then after the second week it really starts to kick in, that's when I can tell if a product is working or not. The 28th of this month (March) is my two week mark, after that I will see how well this cream is working.

So far in this thread only Vicky D and Sassy T has
had good results from using the products.

All I can say is the very last cream in the pictures of that
thread is the cream I am using right now from eBay seller filipinagoddess.
Not sure what to think:confused: Hq? Or no Hq?

According to that post it's looks the same as the
generic "yellow cream" which has hq in it.
Not that I'm freaking out about hq, but I already
have a hq cream that I like (Reviva Labs) just trying
out natural products right now.

My face was so tight and dry and peeling from the soap
the first couple of days of use I did not want to apply the Neutrogena Dry Touch sunblock
on top of that, so I ordered the
Reviva Labs Sun Protective Moisturizer SPF25
from LuckyVitamin (they sell the products much
cheaper).

I think I should have waited because now the soap
does not sting anymore, my skin is not tight like it
used to be after I washed my face and applied the
whitening cream and only little peeling. So the
Neutrogena would have been OK to use.

Too late now, the other suncreen is already here.
I'll use it up then switch to Neutrogena afterwards.

Hi Nikkiecute
In the link I gave you the person who wrote it also wrote with each picture link if the product
Has HQ or not.The one you bought I don't know if it contains HQ.But its not the branded DS.

Its strange,I'm using the papaya soap and whitening cream since last Saturday and my sky doesn't peel nor its dry.It seems its more oily to me!lol.Do you think its not good for oily skin?because my dermatologue told me once that if I use strong products my skin will react by becoming more oily to proctect itself...
Do you think it can be that its not working on my skin?because it must peel?
Others users of Ds can you tell me if the skin has to peel and get dry to know if its working?

You said you used Reviva lab before.Can you tel me the percentage of HQ please?andfor how long time did you use it?and also after you stopped it did your skin become less lighter than when you used it?
Sorry I know it's a DS thread.but I'm very curious about the cream you mentioned Nikkie.

Thanks

Hi Nikkiecute
In the link i gave u the person who wrote it also wrote with each picture link if the product
has HQ or not.The one u bought i dont know if it contains HQ.But its not the branded DS.

Its strange,im using the papaya soap and whitening cream since last saturday and my sky doesnt peel nor its dry.It seems its more oily to me!lol.Do you think its not good for oily skin?because my dermatologue told me once that if i use strong products my skin will react by becoming more oily to proctect itself....
do u think it can be that its not working on my skin?because it must peel??
Others users of Ds can you tell me if the skin has to peel and get dry to know if its working?

You said u used Reviva lab before.Can you tel me the percentage of HQ please?andfor how long time did u use it?and also after you stopped it did your skin become less lighter than when you used it?
sorry i know its a DS thread.but im very curious about the cream you mentioned Nikkie.

Thanks

No, your skin doesn't have to peel in order for DS to work. My skin never peeled and DS still lightened me about a shade. By the way, what color is the whitening cream suppose to be?

DS whitening cream- light yellow
DS lightening cream- white

New DS Surely White whitening cream - light yellow
New DS Surely White lightening cream - white

Hi Nikkicute
In the link i gave u the person who wrote it also wrote with each picture link if the product
has HQ or not.The one u bought i dont know if it contains HQ.But its not the branded DS.

Its strange,im using the papaya soap and whitening cream since last saturday and my sky doesnt peel nor its dry.It seems its more oily to me! lol.Do you think its not good for oily skin?because my dermatologue told me once that if i use strong products my skin will react by becoming more oily to proctect itself....
do u think it can be that its not working on my skin?because it must peel??
Others users of DS can you tell me if the skin has to peel and get dry to know if its working?

You said u used Reviva lab before.Can you tel me the percentage of HQ please?andfor how long time did u use it?and also after you stopped it did your skin become less lighter than when you used it?
sorry i know its a DS thread.but im very curious about the cream you mentioned Nikkie.
Thanks

The cream is called Reviva Labs Brown Spot Night Cream
And I have been using this cream on and off for years.

It's only contains 2%hq, but it does not contain
Mineral oil. I think hq creams that are already on
Store shelves would work just as good if they did
Not contain mineral oil.

Without the mineral oil the 2%hq can penetrate
The skin more deeply. I usually buy it along with
The Revia Labs Day Lightening Cream with spf 15
And there Light Skin Peel.

There is this picture of me hanging up on my
Mom's wall and if I happen to bring a friend with
Me when I go and visit her, every time and I mean
Every time they see that picture they look at me,
They look back at the picture and say
"wow you look different" or "how old are you in
that picture?".

That picture of me was when I was using the
Reviva cream. I was looking really light/high
Yellow in that picture. That's how good the cream
Worked.

The cream is not permanent so if you do stop using
It you can go back to your original. I'm just really starting
To take this wearing sunscreen seriously.
The thing with me is when I get light I stop using a cream
And then when I start to go back to my color
I started with I start to use it again.
I need to be more consistent with my skin lightening routine.
Last summer I did not put any sunscreen on at all.

Ok back to DS I don't think your skin has to peel
In order for the product to work. Maybe because
Your skin is very oily it won't peel. It's only been
A week let's wait and see.

its not simply white----its SURELY WHITE.:)

The DS Surely White is the premium product of DS and available in the U.S now. This is twice the effect of the regular DS.

Do you know this DS surely white web site? I like DS on the face, I just don't want to buy from the same person I bought before, bad service, if this is new and stronger that would be great,

Do you know this DS surely white web site? I like DS on the face, I just don't want to buy from the same person I bought before, bad service, if this is new and stronger that would be great,
:: Diana Stalder - The Skin Care Expert :: (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/surelywhite.html)

The only online store I found that sells DS Surely White is..
eBay Store - BABYKINGDOM888 INFANT STORE PLUS: AMIRA MAGIC Skin Whitening Lightener CREAM SOAP set, PERVIL MAGIC Skin Whitener (http://stores.ebay.com/BABYKINGDOM888-INFANT-STORE-PLUS)

CelebritySkinCare (eBay seller ikeluvsissay) will sell it soon.

:: Diana Stalder - The Skin Care Expert :: (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/surelywhite.html)

The only online store I found that sells DS Surely White is..
eBay Store - BABYKINGDOM888 INFANT STORE PLUS: AMIRA MAGIC Skin Whitening Lightener CREAM SOAP set, PERVIL MAGIC Skin Whitener (http://stores.ebay.com/BABYKINGDOM888-INFANT-STORE-PLUS)

CelebritySkinCare (eBay seller ikeluvsissay) will sell it soon.


SURELY WHITE WHITENING CREAM 15grams

A NIGHT TIME facial skin whitener formulated with an effective agent that removes freckles and other skin pigmentations, evens the skin tone, and whitens the skin in just a week.

DIRECTIONS: Apply sparingly on the face and neck, preferably at night time. Use sunblock cream before going outdoors.

CONTENTS: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, Mineral Oil, Microcrystalline Wax, Paraffin, Citric Acid, Ethylhexyl, Methoxycinnamate, Sorbitol, Algae Extract, Glycerin, Rumex, Occidentals Extract, Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Lactic Acid, Methylparaben, Alantoin, Propylparaben, Fragrance

Where is the lightening ingredients:confused:

Ok I am lightening with this product but it is making me a bit patchy.

It's like it's lightening me up by breaking up the
Darker skin instead of overall lightening.

Look at the directions for this product.
(scroll down) (http://www.amazon.com/Bleaching-Formula-Brighten-Beautiful-Complexion/dp/B000JVD5F2)

See the part where is says:
We do not recommend that you put the cream directly from the jar to your skin as this will result in patches of skin getting more treatment, thus resulting in patchy result.

Well dang! Why didn't anybody tell me that! Lol
I always apply cream directly from the jar to my
Face, never did it any other way.

Never had a problem with patchy lightening before.
Maybe it's the soap:confused: Aww it's not so bad.
Just used to over all lightening, I'll keep going and
See where this cream takes me. For a tiny jar I still
Have enough left for another two weeks or so.

Hi Guys I found this product. It is very potent because it has about 4-5 lightening agents.
If you look up the ingredients in Google it seems they are all natural lightners and antioxidants.

Peter Thomas Roth Potent Botanical Skin Brightening Gel Complex at DermStore (http://www.dermstore.com/product_Potent+Botanical+Skin+Brightening+Gel+Comp lex_2965.htm)

Ingredients: Purified Water, Dimethyl Isosorbide, Azelaic Acid, Kojic Acid, Bearberry Extract, Mulberry Extract, Ascorbic Acid, Salicylic Acid, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Disodium EDTA, SD-Alcohol, Sodium Bisulfite, Sodium Sulfite, Glycerin, Methylparaben, BHT, Diazolidinyl Urea.

Has anyone tried it? I think I am going to try it because DS lightened me one shade and it has been 2.5 months now

Ok I am lightening with this product but it is making me a bit patchy.

It's like it's lightening me up by breaking up the
darker skin instead of overall lightening.

Look at the directions for this product.
(scroll down) (http://www.amazon.com/Bleaching-Formula-Brighten-Beautiful-Complexion/dp/B000JVD5F2)

See the part where is says:
We do not recommend that you put the cream directly from the jar to your skin as this will result in patches of skin getting more treatment, thus resulting in patchy result.

Well dang!! Why didn't anybody tell me that!! lol
I always apply cream directly from the jar to my
face, never did it any other way.

Never had a problem with patchy lightening before.
Maybe it's the soap:confused: Aww it's not so bad.
Just used to over all lightening, I'll keep going and
see where this cream takes me. For a tiny jar I still
have enough left for another two weeks or so.
I don't get it. Why do you complaint about that product in this thread? This is Diana Stalder thread.:o

I don't get it. Why do you complaint about that product in this thread? This is Diana Stalder thread.:o

Your right, you don't get it.

I am not complaining about that product.
I'm not complaining at all.
Please re-read my post.

When I post about
"I am lightening up with this product"
I am talking about the DS cream and soap.
I was lightening up a little patchy.

But when I came across the product in the link and read the
Directions I thought I would share them with the
Other members.

Anyway I am without a doubt lightening up with
The DS cream and soap (unlabeled) and it is turning out pretty even now.
My forehead is trying to fight it but I will just apply
More of the cream.
My forehead always seem to be so stubborn with
Lightening.

So far so good. Told you guys and gals the lightening would
Really kick in once I get past the first two weeks.

How's everybody else getting along?

Well something about D.S. is working!
A co-worker of mine gave me a compliment today.:)

He said "You must have good skin cause your skin is looking
real smooth and it doesn't look dry"
(I do have that dewy look going on right now)

He continued to say "You must soak your skin in Oil of Olay all day". LOL! I thought that was funny!

It's nice to know some change is taking place in my skin if someone else notices.

Last time a co-worker made a comment about my skin is when
I was using Fair and Flawless.

So far so good...
How's everyone else getting along?

Hi everybody
Im using DS papaya/kojic soap and whitening cream since two weeks and 3 days.
I didn't notice lightening on my face.Im using the cream only on my right leg so I can compare with the left leg.But I found that my acne scars are really less visible.And I didn't break out at all tahts a very good thing cause I have very oily skin.
Before that I used hydroquinone for four months maybe that's why when I stopped it and started DS its working slowly and I don't notice any change except on acne scars.
And also like you Nikkie its making me patchy,not too much but the part around my mouth and the chin are more darker than my cheeks.Strange.
And some days my skin looks more darker than other days!Maybe its just in my mind because I think too much about that.I don't want to be like I was after the summer last year.
When I get tan it doesn't look healthy and glowing like others but dirty like brown color mix with grey!lol
Also DS dries the skin so I think its necessary to apply a good moisturizer after it.
I ordered Neutrogena sunblock but still waiting so I bought La roche posay Anthelios fluid 50 spf.I put it today on my face but I hate it;whenever I put sunscreen its eems my skin looks grey!
Nikkie can you tell me which skin color is your and how long has it been you are using DS?
Also is your sunscreen greasy?do you re apply it in the day?
Do you think I use too much cream?cause I use one jar for one week just for the face and neck.
Anyway its great this product is working you.
Keep us informed about it
And who else noticed lightening?
Thanks

Hi everybody
Im using DS papaya/kojic soap and whitening cream since two weeks and 3 days.
I didnt notice lightening on my face.Im using the cream only on my right leg so i can compare with the left leg.But i found that my acne scars are really less visible.And i didnt break out at all tahts a very good thing cause i have very oily skin.
Before that i used hydroquinone for four months maybe thats why when i stopped it and started DS its working slowly and i dont notice any change except on acne scars.
And also like you Nikkie its making me patchy,not too much but the part around my mouth and the chin are more darker than my cheeks.Strange.
And some days my skin looks more darker than other days!Maybe its just in my mind because i think too much about that.I dont wanna be like i was after the summer last year.
When i get tan it doesnt look healthy and glowing like others but dirty like brown color mix with grey!lol
Also DS dries the skin so i think its necessary to apply a good moisturizer after it.
I ordered Neutrogena sunblock but still waiting so i bought La roche posay Anthelios fluid 50 spf.I put it today on my face but i hate it;whenever i put sunscreen its eems my skin looks grey!
Nikkie can you tell me which skin color is your and how long has it been you are using DS?
Also is your sunscreen greasy?do you re apply it in the day?
Do you think i use too much cream?cause i use one jar for one week just for the face and neck.
Anyway its great this product is working you.
Keep us informed about it
And who else noticed lightening?
Thanks

That's how it was for me too.
My cheekbones lightened up first then the rest of
My skin caught up.

I have been using the D.S. soap/cream 4 weeks
Now. I'm still on my first jar.

How did you go through one jar in a week?
Yes, I think you are using a lot of cream!
I think mine will last me the rest of this month, but
I'm only using it on my face.

No my sunscreen is not greasy, it makes my skin
Feel really soft. I like it a lot.

Hi everybody
Im using DS papaya/kojic soap and whitening cream since two weeks and 3 days.
I didnt notice lightening on my face.Im using the cream only on my right leg so i can compare with the left leg.But i found that my acne scars are really less visible.And i didnt break out at all tahts a very good thing cause i have very oily skin.
Before that i used hydroquinone for four months maybe thats why when i stopped it and started DS its working slowly and i dont notice any change except on acne scars.
And also like you Nikkie its making me patchy,not too much but the part around my mouth and the chin are more darker than my cheeks.Strange.
And some days my skin looks more darker than other days!Maybe its just in my mind because i think too much about that.I dont wanna be like i was after the summer last year.
When i get tan it doesnt look healthy and glowing like others but dirty like brown color mix with grey!lol
Also DS dries the skin so i think its necessary to apply a good moisturizer after it.
I ordered Neutrogena sunblock but still waiting so i bought La roche posay Anthelios fluid 50 spf.I put it today on my face but i hate it;whenever i put sunscreen its eems my skin looks grey!
Nikkie can you tell me which skin color is your and how long has it been you are using DS?
Also is your sunscreen greasy?do you re apply it in the day?
Do you think i use too much cream?cause i use one jar for one week just for the face and neck.
Anyway its great this product is working you.
Keep us informed about it
And who else noticed lightening?
Thanks
Wow! You're using TOO much of the cream! I bought a tiny jar and shared it with my sister (for the face, knees & elbows) and it lasted for about 2 weeks! And even that, I still think I was using too much. I first use DS products late Dec last year. I only need a jar of cream & a black licorice soap for the face. Now, I'm on maintenance using only the black soap (I'm still on the 1st bar) & my skin hasn't redarken. It's been 4 months! Well, except that I went to the beach 2 weeks ago and I tanned horribly! And the black soap lighten my skin back and it only took a week!


No my sunscreen is not greasy, it makes my skin
feel really soft. I like it a lot.

What sunscreen are you using? I'm using Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch SPF 55. And I like it a lot because it makes my skin feel smooth & soft. :)

Hi Nikkie and SugarBlush
Thanks for replies
So it seems I just need to take a very little bit of cream.also I let the soap on my face for five/8minutes.Is it too much?
I think I will wait some more weeks to see if it lightens.
Do you think I can use hydroquinone cream twice a week+DS?
And for sunscreen,do you apply it more than once a day?
Thanks

What sunscreen are you using? I'm using Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Dry Touch SPF 55. And I like it a lot because it makes my skin feel smooth & soft. :)

I'm using Reviva Labs Sun Protective Moisturizer
SPF 25.

The soap and the cream made my face so tight and
Dry I didn't want to use the Dry Touch sunscreen
Cause I thought it would make my face even more
Dry.

I'll buy Neutrogena now that my face is back to
Normal and after I'm done with my jar of sunscreen.

Hi Nikki and SugarBlush
thanks for replies
So it seems i just need to take a very little bit of cream.also i let the soap on my face for five/8minutes.Is it too much?
I think i will wait some more weeks to see if it lightens.
Do you think i can use hydroquinone cream twice a week+DS?
And for sunscreen,do you apply it more than once a day?
thanks

I also let the soap stay on my face for at least 5
Minutes.
Maybe you should give the HQ a rest and just use
Sunscreen for a while after you lighten.

Maybe that's why your skin getting dry and tight it's starting to exfoliate - that's causing those patches. You need to use a skin toner or facial lotion (this is like a toner type that moisturize your skin). Always use a sunscreen- if skin is oily use a sunscreen gel.

Maybe that's why your skin getting dry and tight it's starting to exfoliate - that's causing those patches. You need to use a skin toner or facial lotion (this is like a toner type that moisturize your skin). Always use a sunscreen- if skin is oily use a sunscreen gel.

No doubt about that.
My skin did exfoliate and I am now past the tight
And dry stage and my complexion has evened out.
This soap had the effect of a light skin peel for me.

I've heard of these papaya soaps for so long on the
Skin lightening boards but never believed in them
For helping the skin, but this soap is a great for
Exfoliation.

Hi everybody
Im using DS papaya/kojic soap and whitening cream since two weeks and 3 days.
I didnt notice lightening on my face.Im using the cream only on my right leg so i can compare with the left leg.But i found that my acne scars are really less visible.And i didnt break out at all tahts a very good thing cause i have very oily skin.
Before that i used hydroquinone for four months maybe thats why when i stopped it and started DS its working slowly and i dont notice any change except on acne scars.
And also like you Nikkie its making me patchy,not too much but the part around my mouth and the chin are more darker than my cheeks.Strange.
And some days my skin looks more darker than other days!Maybe its just in my mind because i think too much about that.I dont wanna be like i was after the summer last year.
When i get tan it doesnt look healthy and glowing like others but dirty like brown color mix with grey!lol
Also DS dries the skin so i think its necessary to apply a good moisturizer after it.
I ordered Neutrogena sunblock but still waiting so i bought La roche posay Anthelios fluid 50 spf.I put it today on my face but i hate it;whenever i put sunscreen its eems my skin looks grey!
Nikkie can you tell me which skin color is your and how long has it been you are using DS?
Also is your sunscreen greasy?do you re apply it in the day?
Do you think i use too much cream?cause i use one jar for one week just for the face and neck.
Anyway its great this product is working you.
Keep us informed about it
And who else noticed lightening?
Thanks

Hi Shanez, I have been using DS for 3months and it has faded acne scares, smoothed my skin and given it a glow but it has not really lightened it. So I am happy with the product in that respect but I need to lighten 3 shades on my face to match my body so I ordered this product below because it has 5 active lightening ingredients. I haven't used it yet so hopefully it will work.

Peter Thomas Roth Potent Botanical Skin Brightening Gel Complex at DermStore (http://www.dermstore.com/product_Potent+Botanical+Skin+Brightening+Gel+Comp lex_2965.htm)

No doubt about that.
My skin did exfoliate and I am now past the tight
and dry stage and my complexion has evened out.
This soap had the effect of a light skin peel for me.

I've heard of these papaya soaps for so long on the
skin lightening boards but never believed in them
for helping the skin, but this soap is a great for
exfoliation.


Yes I love the papaya soap! It really removes dead skin.

hi
I was googling DS and found this.I thought its interesting.
look at the first post of this page: Diana Stalder Products (http://www.candymag.com/teentalk/index.php?topic=162670.msg3455815)

and here she post pics of the branded DS products:Diana Stalder Products (http://www.candymag.com/teentalk/index.php/topic,162670.750.html)

If im right Southgain on ebay sell the DS products which doesnt contain HQ.
I hope cause i bought them from him.


Looking back on this post and the links I have just noticed
That the person posting the pics of the DS products both
Generic and labeled is an ebay store seller (http://stores.ebay.com/Skin-Whitening-Essentials).

All I can say is at least she told the truth when she listed her
Products as containing hydroquinone.

I am getting more convinced that the cream I purchased
From filipinagoddess is the same as the yellow generic cream
Which contains HQ. Like I said before I don't mind using HQ
But I would like to know if a cream contains it or not.

You'll notice they both claim the samething about their products:
(filipinagoddess)
A Filipino - Swiss company, SGC adheres to the BABTAC (British Association of Beauty Therapy and Cosmetology) standards of professional services, strictly implementing quality, hygienic standards and procedures.
Manufactured by SGC, supplier to 85% of Philippine dermatologists.
Manufacturedin the Philippines
Results As OBAGI $86@Celebrity Dr VICKI BELO

(SkinWhitening Essentials seller)
The manufacturer of this skin care line distributes to some of the Philippines Top Dermatological Clinic. The facility is BFAD approved and guarantees effective results for correcting skin pigmentation, blemishes, dark/age spots, freckles, acne scars, melasma or simply achieve an over-all brighter appearance.

Our new skin care line combines Dermatologist prescribed and approved ingredients. In fact, our product contains the same active ingredient in the popular skin correcting line, OBAGI SYSTEM, except for the fraction of the cost.

I will continue to use the products as they are working for me.

Yes, they were manufactured by Stalder Laboratories but different formulation according to different dermatologist... They are all the same as the manufacturer but not the formula... Dr. Belo, Dr. Calayan, Dina dela Paz-Stalder, and so many others... They don't share the same recipe... If you will go to Belo Medical Clinic they will give different product (expensive) from what they are selling on public right now- they are Class C ( u can get it in any supermarket or grocery-cheaper price but lesser ingredients but also effective). All of those dermatologist are member of SGC.

Hi
Nikkie but do you know the % of HQ your cream has?
And Sassy me too scars faded very much and I agree my skin looks better now.Pores are less visible
And about the link you posted about Peter Thomas Roth cream I looked on makeupalley and it has very good reviews.
Maybe I will try it after I finish DS
And for those who use sunscreen,how many time do you apply it in a day?
Thanks

:: Diana Stalder - The Skin Care Expert :: (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/surelywhite.html)

The only online store I found that sells DS Surely White is..
eBay Store - BABYKINGDOM888 INFANT STORE PLUS: AMIRA MAGIC Skin Whitening Lightener CREAM SOAP set, PERVIL MAGIC Skin Whitener (http://stores.ebay.com/BABYKINGDOM888-INFANT-STORE-PLUS)

CelebritySkinCare (eBay seller ikeluvsissay) will sell it soon.


Surely White available now here in US - just go to eBay.

Hi
Nikkie but do you know the % of HQ your cream has?
And for those who use sunscreen,how many time do you apply it in a day?
thanks

You mean my DS cream?
I don't know what the percentage is.
Maybe I should ask the seller how much is in there.

I use my suncreen once a day, whenever I go
Outside, which is not much. Been nothing but rain
Here so far. But when summer comes twice a day
I will apply sunscreen.

Hi
Thanks Nikkie for your reply
Does anybode know the percentage of kojic acide in DS cream?
I don't know but it seems to me that the soap is stronger than the cream??
Im talking about the kokic and papaya soap.So I was thinking if there would be a cream with papaya mauybe it would be more effective
It has been three weeks now I'm using Ds but my chin is one shade darker from the others parts of my face.I try to even it with make up.

I will wait one and half month and if I don't see lightening I would like to try the product Sassy gave the link or Oriki(but its expensive).
Sassy can you give your opinion after using the Peter Thomas Roth Potent Botanical Skin Brightening Gel Complex?Thanks

I also really want to use HQ but I have to give it a break.

I started using the black soap on my thighs.. and it started to peel real bad... after the peeling subsided... the skin underneath turned out DARKER than my original skin! Help! What should I do? Should I use the cream on it? Or stop using it at all? Needless to say, I stopped using the soap.

i started using the black soap on my thighs.. and it started to peel real bad... after the peeling subsided... the skin underneath turned out DARKER than my original skin!! help!! what should i do?? should i use the cream on it?? or stop using it at all?? needless to say, i stopped using the soap.

This always seems to happen when the skin is irritated. I'm having the same issue right now from using the lowest dose of hydroquoine. My face first had tons of red bumps all over and then some hard skin went over it and now after 4 days.. my face is now just starting to peel however I look like I'm wearing a mask on one side of my face! :mad: I noticed this morning too that the new area is extremely so much darker than the other half of my face and because of it.. I can't leave the house!:(

I do not know what to do!

this always seems to happen when the skin is irritated. i'm having the same issue right now from using the lowest dose of hydroquoine. my face first had tons of red bumps all over and then some hard skin went over it and now after 4 days..my face is now just starting to peel however i look like i'm wearing a mask on one side of my face! :mad: i noticed this morning too that the new area is extremely so much darker than the other half of my face and because of it..i can't leave the house!:(

i do not know what to do!

Don't use hydroquoine. It is dangerous. It will evetually make you darker and ruin your skin.

I dont know but it seems to me that the soap is stronger than the cream???
I'm talking about the kojic and papaya soap.

Don't think I was thinking the samething. Lol
No matter what cream I use when lightening I'm
Always going to use the Kojic/Papay soap with it.

this always seems to happen when the skin is irritated. i'm having the same issue right now from using the lowest dose of hydroquoine. my face first had tons of red bumps all over and then some hard skin went over it and now after 4 days..my face is now just starting to peel however i look like i'm wearing a mask on one side of my face! :mad: i noticed this morning too that the new area is extremely so much darker than the other half of my face and because of it..i can't leave the house!:(

i do not know what to do!

What's the name of the product you are using?

So has anyone used Surely White long enough to give us a review yet?

And do you HAVE to moisturize the skin when you're lightening even if the skin's not peeling and it's not dry?

I heard from different sites that the moisturizers recommended to skin lightening but I don't know.

Hi
Nikkie I sent you a pm.can you have alook when you ll have time
Thanks

Can you use the soap to wash your hands regularly like regular soap or do you just use it twice a day in morning and at night?

Any input would be nice.

Can you use the soap to wash your hands regularly like regular soap or do you just use it twice a day in morning and at night?

Any input would be nice.

I can't see why not. Your hands may get a little dry so best to use a moisturiser also. :)

The key ingredient for the Surely White Whitening Cream and SW Body Whitening Lotion is Rumex Occidentalis extract or Tyrostat11.
Rumex Occidentalis (Tyrostat 11)
- A natural skin-whitening agent
- Native to the Northern Canadian prairies region.
Extracts with strong inhibitory effects on the enzyme tyrosinase

Tocopheryl Acetate – anti oxidant, moisturizing and anti aging effect
Ascorbic acid - Anti oxidant.

As for the Surely White Lightening Cream and Surely White Lightening Lotion is Arbutin.
Key ingredients:
Arbutin - an extract of Bearberry plant which produced by a Solid/liquid extraction
- whitening agent.
Panthenol - Vit B5
- penetrating moisturizer, stimulates cellular regeneration and aids in tissue repair.
Lactic acid - -moisturizer



SURELY WHITE WHITENING CREAM 15grams

A NIGHT TIME facial skin whitener formulated with an effective agent that removes freckles and other skin pigmentations, evens the skin tone, and whitens the skin in just a week.

DIRECTIONS: Apply sparingly on the face and neck, preferably at night time. Use sunblock cream before going outdoors.

CONTENTS: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, Mineral Oil, Microcrystalline Wax, Paraffin, Citric Acid, Ethylhexyl, Methoxycinnamate, Sorbitol, Algae Extract, Glycerin, Rumex, Occidentals Extract, Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Lactic Acid, Methylparaben, Alantoin, Propylparaben, Fragrance

Where is the lightening ingredients:confused:

Well thanks for the list.
Wow, seems to be a new lightening ingredient coming out everyday.
Hope it works for whoever is using it.

I first started to use dina stalder products 4 weeks ago. My skin is so weird because like one day my skin looks light and the next it looks really dark lol. My skin complexion is medium brown not really dark but my complexion is really darker on my face and neck and like the rest of my body is kind of lightish brown. My hands are really light and I used to like put my hand next to my face and it was just disgusting to see that my face was soooooo dark and my hand was sooo light it was just weird and I hated it! Well I used the diana stalder products 4 weeks ago and I use the kojic papaya sopa for the first 3 week night and day and boy was I in pain! I just so wanted to be lightskinned so bad and I tried to ignore the pain by listening to beyonce! It helped a little bit. I bought that big jar of the whitening cream(it was only 100$) and I used t for my whole body! Like I said I'm not that dark and my skin was turning red and that was weird. And I started to peel so much it was everywhere it was sooo nasty and like I would use lotions but once the lotion was fully obsorbed I started to peel more it was just soooooooo nasty!! So I stopped using it for like 3 days and I didn't shower either( I know that's nasty lmao) because my skin was so sore and I was still peeling. Those 3 days was hell! My skin was greysih dark and the peeled dead skin was extremely visible and like dark ugly marks were on my chest I feel dirty talking about it!

So on the third day I decided to shower with the black soap because I never used it and it was also mild so I used it. I showerd for like 2 hrs lol and when I got out I was officially lightskinned! Like 4 shades lighter I took pictures and everything lol! I did the hand test and my face was sooooooooooo light!! Omg I look so much better now! Its just so weird looking at my old pictures lol . Yesterday my boyfriend was over my house and he found this pic of me like 2 years ago and he says "mellisa, this girl look just like u haha" and I'm like "that is me" and he goes "she looks like an uglier darker versian of you" that pised me off a lot but whatever you know lol. I only use the black soap and the whitening lotion now and my skin is still light and pretty and I use sunscreen lotion faithfully! My skin still is kind of sore but its OK. The marks ar gone as well.

I know my results sound unreal but I'm telling you the truth. Stick to the products. I used the unlabeld product by the way. Your results might not be as dramatic because everyone is different I guess lol and wasn't like dark to begin with so umm keep using it. I JUST LUV MY SKIN NOW!!

i first started to use dina stalder products 4 weeks ago. my skin is so weird because like one day my skin looks light and the next it looks really dark lol. my skin complexion is medium brown not really dark but my complexion is really darker on my face and neck and like the rest of my body is kinda lightish brown. my hands are realy light and i used to like put my hand next to my face and it was just disgusting to see that my face was soooooo dark and my hand was sooo light it was just weird and i hated it!! Well i used the diana stalder products 4 weeks ago and i use the kojic papaya sopa for the first 3 week night and day and boy was i in pain!! i just so wanted to be lightskinned so bad and i tried to ignore the pain by listening to beyonce! it helped a little bit. i bought that big jar of the whitening cream(it was only 100$) and i used t for my whole body! like i said im not that dark and my skin was turning red and that was weird. and i started to peel so much it was everywhere it was sooo nasty and like i would use lotions but once the lotion was fully obsorbed i started to peel more it was just soooooooo nasty!!! so i stopped using it for like 3 days and i didnt shower either( i know thats nasty lmao) because my skin was so sore and i was still peeling. those 3 days was hell!! my skin was greysih dark and the peeled dead skin was extremely visable and like dark ugly marks were on my chest i feel dirty talking about it!

so on the third day i decided to shower with the black soap because i never used it and it was also mild so i used it. I showerd for like 2 hrs lol and when i got out i was officially lightskinned! like 4 shades lighter i took pictures and everything lol!! i did the hand test and my face was sooooooooooo light!!! omg i look so much better now! its just so weird looking at my old pictures lol . Yesterday my boyfriend was over my house and he found this pic of me like 2 years ago and he says "mellisa, this girl look just like u haha" and im like "that is me" and he goes "she looks like an uglier darker versian of you" that pised me off alot but whatever you know lol. i only use the black soap and the whitening lotion now and my skin is still light and pretty and i use sunscreen lotion faithfully!! my skin still is kinda sore but its ok. the marks ar gone aswell.

i know my results sound unreal but im telling you the truth. stick to the products. i used the unlabeld product btw. your results might not be as dramatic because everyone is different i guess lol and wasnt like dark to begin with so umm keep using it. I JUST LUV MY SKIN NOW!!!

I've recently started using Diana Stalder again for my acne as I've been breaking out loads.
I remember when I peeled like crazy too and my skin was too sore and red. But unfortunately my skin did not lighten much, just a little. Helped acne scars though and it left some dark marks on the corner of my mouth and it's been there ever since (faded a little).
But yeah, I love the texture of DS. It clears my acne up and some of my scars.

i first started to use dina stalder products 4 weeks ago. my skin is so weird because like one day my skin looks light and the next it looks really dark lol. my skin complexion is medium brown not really dark but my complexion is really darker on my face and neck and like the rest of my body is kinda lightish brown. my hands are realy light and i used to like put my hand next to my face and it was just disgusting to see that my face was soooooo dark and my hand was sooo light it was just weird and i hated it!! Well i used the diana stalder products 4 weeks ago and i use the kojic papaya sopa for the first 3 week night and day and boy was i in pain!! i just so wanted to be lightskinned so bad and i tried to ignore the pain by listening to beyonce! it helped a little bit. i bought that big jar of the whitening cream(it was only 100$) and i used t for my whole body! like i said im not that dark and my skin was turning red and that was weird. and i started to peel so much it was everywhere it was sooo nasty and like i would use lotions but once the lotion was fully obsorbed i started to peel more it was just soooooooo nasty!!! so i stopped using it for like 3 days and i didnt shower either( i know thats nasty lmao) because my skin was so sore and i was still peeling. those 3 days was hell!! my skin was greysih dark and the peeled dead skin was extremely visable and like dark ugly marks were on my chest i feel dirty talking about it!

so on the third day i decided to shower with the black soap because i never used it and it was also mild so i used it. I showerd for like 2 hrs lol and when i got out i was officially lightskinned! like 4 shades lighter i took pictures and everything lol!! i did the hand test and my face was sooooooooooo light!!! omg i look so much better now! its just so weird looking at my old pictures lol . Yesterday my boyfriend was over my house and he found this pic of me like 2 years ago and he says "mellisa, this girl look just like u haha" and im like "that is me" and he goes "she looks like an uglier darker versian of you" that pised me off alot but whatever you know lol. i only use the black soap and the whitening lotion now and my skin is still light and pretty and i use sunscreen lotion faithfully!! my skin still is kinda sore but its ok. the marks ar gone aswell.

i know my results sound unreal but im telling you the truth. stick to the products. i used the unlabeld product btw. your results might not be as dramatic because everyone is different i guess lol and wasnt like dark to begin with so umm keep using it. I JUST LUV MY SKIN NOW!!!
Wow. That's good to know. :)
Would you PM me your before & after pics? :p
You could censor the pics. :)

I was medium brown too. I used DS for a month and I only got like 2 shades lighter. So, I stopped using DS. But my skin color still remain though. It has been 4 months since I stopped using DS.

i first started to use dina stalder products 4 weeks ago. my skin is so weird because like one day my skin looks light and the next it looks really dark lol. my skin complexion is medium brown not really dark but my complexion is really darker on my face and neck and like the rest of my body is kinda lightish brown. my hands are realy light and i used to like put my hand next to my face and it was just disgusting to see that my face was soooooo dark and my hand was sooo light it was just weird and i hated it!! Well i used the diana stalder products 4 weeks ago and i use the kojic papaya sopa for the first 3 week night and day and boy was i in pain!! i just so wanted to be lightskinned so bad and i tried to ignore the pain by listening to beyonce! it helped a little bit. i bought that big jar of the whitening cream(it was only 100$) and i used t for my whole body! like i said im not that dark and my skin was turning red and that was weird. and i started to peel so much it was everywhere it was sooo nasty and like i would use lotions but once the lotion was fully obsorbed i started to peel more it was just soooooooo nasty!!! so i stopped using it for like 3 days and i didnt shower either( i know thats nasty lmao) because my skin was so sore and i was still peeling. those 3 days was hell!! my skin was greysih dark and the peeled dead skin was extremely visable and like dark ugly marks were on my chest i feel dirty talking about it!

so on the third day i decided to shower with the black soap because i never used it and it was also mild so i used it. I showerd for like 2 hrs lol and when i got out i was officially lightskinned! like 4 shades lighter i took pictures and everything lol!! i did the hand test and my face was sooooooooooo light!!! omg i look so much better now! its just so weird looking at my old pictures lol . Yesterday my boyfriend was over my house and he found this pic of me like 2 years ago and he says "mellisa, this girl look just like u haha" and im like "that is me" and he goes "she looks like an uglier darker versian of you" that pised me off alot but whatever you know lol. i only use the black soap and the whitening lotion now and my skin is still light and pretty and i use sunscreen lotion faithfully!! my skin still is kinda sore but its ok. the marks ar gone aswell.

i know my results sound unreal but im telling you the truth. stick to the products. i used the unlabeld product btw. your results might not be as dramatic because everyone is different i guess lol and wasnt like dark to begin with so umm keep using it. I JUST LUV MY SKIN NOW!!!


This just sounds like false hope for many out there. Watch it go from peeling and raw to somewhat light to so much darker. Trust me when I say this.. that you will go back to your original color.

cwcw1,

You have mentioned this product on several threads now...

I mentioin it bcause it worked for me and it took me a long time to find something that worked!

Why don't you start a new thread and tell us about the products and which ones you used.

cwcw1, It's great that you had success with this cream but making the same post in all the threads will just irritate others. You can open your own success thread or look for a thread about it and post there. This way, it'll help people who are looking for more details on this particular cream.;)

Wow, someone did post a question on here about the product (two years ago).
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-lightening/natural-fairness-soap-lotion-21185.html

But no one answered.

The new "DS Gluta soap" is in the US now.

The new "DS Gluta soap" is in the US now.

Are you going to tell us were we can purchase it?
Or are you going to keep all the soap to yourself? Lol

Are you going to tell us were we can purchase it?
Or are you going to keep all the soap to yourself? lol

It will be available on eBay this week or early next week. As we know only 4 DS sellers on eBay.

It will be available on eBay this week or early next week. As we know only 4 DS sellers on eBay.

So you think the L Glutathione Bleaching Whitening Soap from filipinagoddess
Is any good?

So you think the L Glutathione Bleaching Whitening Soap from filipinagoddess
is any good?

Sorry, I don't know. I never tried using her generic whitening products. I just stick on the real DS. Her product formulation is different from the real DS though claiming came from BCP. And still haven't try the real DS Gluta Soap - still waiting... but it will be this weekend.

Sorry, I don't know. I never tried using her generic whitening products. I just stick on the real DS. Her product formulation is different from the real DS though claiming came from BCP. And still haven't try the real DS Gluta Soap - still waiting....but it will be this weekend.

Her products worked great!
I purchased her facial cream and papaya soap.

She seems to be an honest seller to me.

But one day these products will be tested and we'll see if there really is a big difference the ingredients.

Especially the soaps. I do see a difference in the creams (another board posted pictures of the different creams) but not in the soaps, they all look a like to me.

Wouldn't know a real DS product if walked up to me.
Diana Stalder would have to hand me a jar it herself. Lol

Hey guys

I'm thinking of getting the DS Black Soap (seems to be more popular in this forum than the kojic one)

And I was wondering how it worked for those of you who have used it...



Also.. I don't live in the states.. so I was wondering.. has anyone tried the international shipping thing here?:

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And.. is Paypal billing trustworthy?

My brother goes to college in the US so we have a credit card we can use... But I don't know if I can trust Paypal

They shipped to Alaska! BTW the products work great!

I forgot to mention that the products were pretty pricey however.

Hey guys

I'm thinking of getting the DS Black Soap (seems to b more popular in this forum than the kojic one)

And I was wondering how it worked for those of you who have used it...
Also.. I don't live in the states.. so i was wondering.. has anyone tried the international shipping thing here?:

And.. is Paypal billing trustworthy?

My brother goes to college in the US so we have a credit card we can use... But i dont know if i can trust Paypal

Yes!
Paypal is a very trustworthy, I have never had a
Problem with Paypal.

I buy my soap from eBay using Paypal which is
eBay owned, so why not purchase your soap
From eBay? All of the sellers on eBay offer their
Buyers to purchase their products through Paypal.

Where do you live?
Most sellers do ship international.

OK as of this afternoon I just received my Diana stalder surely white kit.

I got:
Black beauty bar, sureley white lightening cream, SBF-collagen crème, fascial lotion and surely white skin toner.

Like what I've been reading, these things are TINY, and looks as if ill need to be ordering more in case I run out (which seems like it won't last too long). Ill post a pic next to a soda can so that everyone here can get a visual perpective on the size of these bottles, I heard they were small but I was surprised.

I just got back from a trip to baja mexico and spent a lot of time on the beach so I got pretty tan. My skin tone isn't too dark, I'm actually pretty pale on my upper legs and stomach (big farmers tan!) but dark arms and medium face from always being out and never wearing sun screen. I wonder how this will affect results.

Regardless, I will take some photos tonight before I start this, and try to take some everyweek during the time I use this stuff. I'm going to try my hardest to stay away from lots of sun exposure and I already bought some 60spf sun screen to help out when I do. Hope this works. As much as I've been researching this product I never seen any good before and after photos (that look real, or not taken in bad lightening) so hopefully I can provide some good photos and results or lack of.

OK as of this afternoon i just recieved my Diana stalder surely white kit.

i got:
black beauty bar, sureley white lightening cream, SBF-collagen creme, fascial lotion and surely white skin toner.

like what ive been reading, these things are TINY, and looks as if ill need to be ordering more incase i run out (which seems like it wont last too long). ill post a pic next to a soda can so that everyone here can get a visual perpective on the size of these bottles, i heard they were small but i was surprised.

i just got back from a trip to baja mexico and spent a lot of time on the beach so i got pretty tan. my skin tone isnt too dark, im actually pretty pale on my upper legs and stomach (big farmers tan!) but dark arms and medium face from always being out and never wearing sun screen. i wonder how this will affect results.

reguardless, i will take some photos tonight before i start this, and try to take some everyweek during the time i use this stuff. im going to try my hardest to stay away from lots of sun exposure and i already bought some 60spf sun screen to help out when i do. hope this works. as much as ive been researching this product i never seen any good before and after photos (that look real, or not taken in bad lightening) so hopefully i can provide some good photos and results or lack of.

Hi there.. how is the DS SW working? Good? I just ordered mine yesterday.

Bio Claire does not sting at all. It is slowly lightening up my skin. I am only using the lotion. I put it on my face, knees, and toes.

What about the rest of your body? Do you use it on that too?

When you say that you peel, does that mean like all over your face until the skin is all off? Also, does it make your skin discolored in the process of peeling?

[QUOTE=weezing;1051921]I first started to use dina stalder products 4 weeks ago. My skin is so weird because like one day my skin looks light and the next it looks really dark lol. My skin complexion is medium brown not really dark but my complexion is really darker on my face and neck and like the rest of my body is kind of lightish brown. My hands are really light and I used to like put my hand next to my face and it was just disgusting to see that my face was soooooo dark and my hand was sooo light it was just weird and I hated it! Well I used the diana stalder products 4 weeks ago and I use the kojic papaya sopa for the first 3 week night and day and boy was I in pain! I just so wanted to be lightskinned so bad and I tried to ignore the pain by listening to beyonce! It helped a little bit. I bought that big jar of the whitening cream(it was only 100$) and I used t for my whole body! Like I said I'm not that dark and my skin was turning red and that was weird. And I started to peel so much it was everywhere it was sooo nasty and like I would use lotions but once the lotion was fully obsorbed I started to peel more it was just soooooooo nasty!! So I stopped using it for like 3 days and I didn't shower either( I know that's nasty lmao) because my skin was so sore and I was still peeling. Those 3 days was hell! My skin was greysih dark and the peeled dead skin was extremely visible and like dark ugly marks were on my chest I feel dirty talking about it... QUOTE]


HELLO WEEZING,

Now I am afraid of the peeling part of it. Is it noticeable, and does it hurt to peel the skin off? I am like Sanna Lathan's complexion facially, and many regions of my body, but I plan to use this soap and cream just on the darker parts of my body (arms, back & butt). Did you use the soap on your body or just your face? And if you just used the cream on your body, did it cause you to peel? Please reply, mine is in the mail on it's way.

[QUOTE=weezing;1051921]i first started to use dina stalder products 4 weeks ago. my skin is so weird because like one day my skin looks light and the next it looks really dark lol. my skin complexion is medium brown not really dark but my complexion is really darker on my face and neck and like the rest of my body is kinda lightish brown. my hands are realy light and i used to like put my hand next to my face and it was just disgusting to see that my face was soooooo dark and my hand was sooo light it was just weird and i hated it!! Well i used the diana stalder products 4 weeks ago and i use the kojic papaya sopa for the first 3 week night and day and boy was i in pain!! i just so wanted to be lightskinned so bad and i tried to ignore the pain by listening to beyonce! it helped a little bit. i bought that big jar of the whitening cream(it was only 100$) and i used t for my whole body! like i said im not that dark and my skin was turning red and that was weird. and i started to peel so much it was everywhere it was sooo nasty and like i would use lotions but once the lotion was fully obsorbed i started to peel more it was just soooooooo nasty!!! so i stopped using it for like 3 days and i didnt shower either( i know thats nasty lmao) because my skin was so sore and i was still peeling. those 3 days was hell!! my skin was greysih dark and the peeled dead skin was extremely visable and like dark ugly marks were on my chest i feel dirty talking about it.....QUOTE]


HELLO WEEZING,

Now I am afraid of the peeling part of it. Is it noticable, and does it hurt to peel the skin off? I am like Sanna Lathan's complexion facially, and many regions of my body, but I plan to use this soap and cream just on the darker parts of my body (arms, back & butt). Did you use the soap on your body or just your face? And if you just used the cream on your body, did it cause you to peel? Please reply, mine is in the mail on it's way.
Yes it is quite noticeable, not very APEELING, but it works.

[QUOTE=CinnamonComplexion;2324432]
Yes it is quite noticible, not very APEELING, but it works.

How long does it peel for? The entire time you use the application? Oh Gosh! Getting nervous.

I peeled for about a week, I would tell people I was sunburned because that is exactly what it looks like.

I peeled for about a week, I would tell people I was sunburned because that is exactly what it looks like.

Haha!! You're cute. I wish I could say that, but everyone knows my black a$$ isn't sunburning.:(

If you are in the right place at the right time you will. Let the sun lean on your face for a while you will, lol. But I carried moisturizer and other things around wit me that would help to take the peel look away for a while.

If you are in the right place at the right time you will. Let the sun lean on your face for a while you will, lol. But i carried moisturizer and other things around wit me that would help to take the peel look away for a while.

Ahh, I see, that's probably what I'll do. And I'm assuming under the peel, the lighter tone will reveal itself. I just can't wait to lighten these arms and especially this buttocks of mine. I really want to finally wear a bikini this summer for a change.

You could also say you went for a facial, or that you're using retin a for your acne, which makes you peel
That's if you have acne of course!

you could also say you went for a facial, or that you're using retin a for your acne, which makes you peel
thats if you have acne of course!

Right! But I don't have that either :confused:. Well, I really didn't plan using on my face either way. As far as my body goes, (Arms, Buttocks) I'll just hide them.

But I may have wanted to use it on my face, at least the black soap for the smooth effect everyone says they get. But do the black soap even cause you to peel?

I personally haven't used it,
Likas papaya soap is very good for pealing/llightening
However, people have reported it to be irritating and stingy for the first couple of washes, then you adapt and it's fine! :)

i personally haven't used it,
likas papaya soap is very good for pealing/llightening
however, people have reported it to be irritating and stingy for the first couple of washes, then you adapt and it's fine! :)

You know the Likas papaya soap didn't do much for me, no peeling or anything...

you know the Likas papaya soap didnt do much for me, no peeling or anything..........

The Likas Papaya soap? Whick one is that? Have you used the black soap? If so, what was your experience?