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sant55
Dec 3, 2007, 12:30 AM
Is there anything else I can do for my girlfriend who doesn't want as much sex as me?
How can I make her feel hot and ready?

goelpunit
Dec 3, 2007, 12:40 AM
Hi tell in more details...

sant55
Dec 3, 2007, 12:52 AM
OK, I want to know how can I make her hot? She allows me to kiss, suck her boobs, caress her body... but when I want to have sex, she doesn't wish to be ready. I want to know how can I make her hot? Are there some special parts of her body where I can kiss or suck and make her feel hot?

goelpunit
Dec 3, 2007, 01:51 AM
Dear Sant,

After reading your message. I think she will be worried about pregnancy. You tell her you use all precautions during intercourse. Prepare first her mentally to do sex after physical. Take her firstly in confidence. Try this you will get successed very soon...

sant55
Dec 3, 2007, 02:06 AM
Thanks goelpunit. I'm sure she isn't worried about pregnancy (because of her physical condition). We had sex 3 times before. She is a divorced lady. But she is not participatory and takes sex as burden. I want to know what kind of foreplay can make her ready again? She isn't willing to hv sex again, that's the problem.

Synnen
Dec 3, 2007, 06:04 AM
She isn't willing/ready to have sex, and you're trying to pressure her into it?

I don't blame her. I wouldn't give it up to you either. Bet it looks to her like you only want sex!

If she's not ready MENTALLY, nothing you can do is going to change that. Try being patient, loving, kind, and gentle.

Also--try not to communicate by private message on these boards. Since you responded in a message to someone, the rest of us have no idea of any details you've only given ONE person.

sant55
Dec 3, 2007, 08:36 PM
Thank you very much Synnen. I think you are correct. She has told me to be patient. But how long I can wait?? And I think I hv been loving, kind, and gentle to her, thanks again.

kp2171
Dec 3, 2007, 10:03 PM
Does she have orgasms? Scour the threads here and there are LOTS of women who are not satisfied.

That not an attack on you... but its possible sex is not appealing to her for a lot of reasons. Past sexual abuse, past sexual disappointment, physical or emotional stress decreasing libido, etc...

Can you get her to orgasm through oral sex, making it all about her?

Sensuality isn't the same as sexuality, though they should be connected. She just might need more sensuality and less sexuality. The maddening thing and the great thing about sex is that a sexual roadblock can be hell to get past... but once you have a few "wins" you might be past it for good for the most part...

So... id focus on her as much as you can. Latest sex/sensual book I read was "she comes first"... stresses taking you time with a woman, and even though I thought I was a patient guy, turns out I was still forcing things sooner than needed... even when giving oral.

We guys are just wired differently mostly. So making it about her for a while might pay you dividends in the long run. And if it doesn't, then you know you did your part and tried to meet halfway.

Sexual compatibility is something that should be looked at and thought about.

Synnen
Dec 3, 2007, 11:01 PM
How long should you wait?

Until SHE is ready. That might be after marriage.

No matter how patient you think you're being, for many women, sex isn't a goal in a relationship. It's nice, it's great--but not as good as being close to your boyfriend/husband/whoever. And the thing is--once you HAVE sex, it's really hard to go back to NOT having sex.

Sex isn't a reward for you doing everything right for her, being patient and kind and loving and whatever.

Sex is, for many people, an expression of love that is more fulfilling ONLY if the rest of the relationship is solid and trusting.

So... if you want to know how to show her THAT--back off. Don't bring up having sex. Don't push her towards sex. When she says stop, stop completely, with no "but I NEED yous" or "but I love you baby" or "it hurts to go unfulfilled as a man" or dirty looks, or heavy sighs, or whatever else might make her feel guilty for saying no to sex. Just stop, and be okay with stopping.

Look at it this way--you're getting all the REST of that sexual play, right? Make the PLAYING the goal, not the sex, not the orgasm. Just the feelign good together, being comfortable together.

goelpunit
Dec 3, 2007, 11:41 PM
I think synnen is right.

sant55
Dec 4, 2007, 09:39 PM
Past sexual abuse, past sexual disappointment, physical or emotional stress etc... yah I think are the reasons. (because she has told me many times that her ex-husband was like a rapist.) she had an operation 7 months back, in which she had to throw her uterus, this may also hv changed her behavior. She doesn't like oral. I hd complete stop many times when she said NO. anyway, thank you all very much for your best suggestions and for reading my problems. Lets hope I will hv good relations again. THANKS.

sant55
Jan 22, 2008, 03:09 AM
Hi all,
This time I have a good news for all. This time she has agreed (we are going to meet soon in few days), as advised by you, I tried to prepare her mentally. Please suggest me more about the foreplay /actions , I want her be ready for all the times in future. Thanks

goelpunit
Jan 22, 2008, 03:43 AM
Hi Sant, how are you?? Do slowly... slowly... slowly... not in hurry... Do like as she want... she will be with you forever... :)

"Nothing is impossible in this world,
Even impossible says i+m+possible."

smoothy
Jan 22, 2008, 09:13 AM
She isn't willing/ready to have sex, and you're trying to pressure her into it?

I don't blame her. I wouldn't give it up to you either. Bet it looks to her like you only want sex!

If she's not ready MENTALLY, nothing you can do is going to change that. Try being patient, loving, kind, and gentle.

Also--try not to communicate by private message on these boards. Since you responded in a message to someone, the rest of us have no idea of any details you've only given ONE person.I agree... if you were doing all the right things the SHE wants to see, then she would be climbing all over you. There is no blueprint or road map to get what he wants from her. You have to learn what SHE wants and fulfill those needs. There is a lot more to this than inset tab "A" in slot "B" remove then repeat so many young guys seem to think is all there is to making love.

kp2171
Jan 22, 2008, 10:51 AM
Buddy, there's no script, especially with what she's been through.

Forget about foreplay. I've said it before, you need to get into her head before you get into her pants... and right now, I wouldn't even be pushing that issue.

Have a nice dinner, find a blues bar and dance with her like a lover before you are one. Connect with her without trying to figure out the right buttons to push.

I get it that you are sexually pent up. That's OK. Its reasonable. But you've chosen to be with someone who has a rough sexual history and she has not healed. Its going to be work, and probably its going to take more the "mentally preparing" her... this isn't studying for the ACT.

Have you read any books on body massage or sensual touching? Have you read any books about sex?

Have you asked if shed like to go to counseling for her past and that you'd be willing to go with her to work through it?

You can face the symptom or the cause.

If you want this to work long term you need to be patient and active. That means sometimes you touch her to let her feel you touching her and that's it. No pressure. No disappointment.

If you can sensually connect to her, maybe you can sexually connect with her at some point. But as it stands, I'm guessing if she's willing to have sex, its more out of "obligation" and a desire to not disappoint you.

And that's not sexy at all.

Its not your fault that she's been through some rough times. And you shouldn't feel guilty if you can't be the person who does the hard work to help her through this. But if you stay, and you want it to work, you probably need to back off the sex push a little and try to help her be able to connect with you sensually, step by step.

And if somehow she insists she's ready and jumps into bed, my suggestion is don't push anything. Touch her slowly and thoughtfully, trace her body like you have all night. A few simple sensual experiences can go a long way toward helping her feel comfortable again, perhaps.

kp2171
Jan 22, 2008, 10:56 AM
Make the PLAYING the goal, not the sex, not the orgasm. Just the feelign good together, being comfortable together.
I'm not trying to downplay how great an orgasm can be (see my signature) but when sex is all about the orgasm, not getting one makes any sexual play automatically a "failure."

Synnen
Jan 22, 2008, 10:59 AM
KP--if you're having cookies with your orgasms---are they sandwich cookies?

You're not actually having cookies in BED, are you? That would be a really crumby thing to do.

kp2171
Jan 22, 2008, 11:07 AM
Too funny

Who says you can't have sex in the kitchen??

Synnen
Jan 22, 2008, 11:31 AM
Good point.

Though really, not applicable in the situation the OP describes.

Maybe he could make her some cookies?

Choux
Jan 22, 2008, 11:49 AM
I get the feeling that she is a more sophisticated, mature kind of person than you are, sant. You are direct and goal oriented, and she is deep and fragile... Why is it that you were attracted to her? She's a great person, right?

I think you may have to face the fact that you don't have what she wants emotionally. Can you crack open your heart and find empathy and emotion for your friend? That would be a start to a fabulous orgasmic life! :)

Best wishes in the coming year,

sant55
Mar 18, 2008, 02:15 AM
Hi! I'm sorry again to say - despite of my sincere efforts she is not ready yet. She says god will punish her... I'm tired in deed. But want to make her prepared mentally. How?? I don't know what's wrong with me? I know she isn't a normal lady... she changes her promises and words so often, I can't forget her even if she's so disappointing...

smoothy
Mar 18, 2008, 07:00 AM
It's a strong possibility that you two just aren't compatible... Thats not saying one or the other is damaged goods, but everyone just can't be a good match for everyone else.

While it seems like she has some endearing qualities to you the overall big picture is you have some big differences.

Yeah it is painful when you get involved with someone like this. But you can't make her change, nor should she expect you to change. If either of you pretend to do it for the other it will cause resentment over time.

Best thing to do is set down... have a heart to heart talk with her. Tell her you aren't happy with this, and tell her why if you haven't already. If you can't come to a mutual agreement that pleases both of you them consider it time to move on and find someone new.

You aren't married yet, consider yourself lucky.

kp2171
Mar 18, 2008, 07:44 AM
She is not ready for sex. Period. Done!

You either accept this or move on, but you don't try to pressure her or brainwash her or manipulate her after repeated attempts.

Look... at some point most guys have probably applied some sexual pressure on a girl they were dating... it's a part of the "chase"... a guy who doesn't care about sex might end up with the girl who writes in here saying "my bf doesnt want sex... what is wrong with him or me?"...

So don't feel like a complete jerk because you want sex. And its not even wrong to have asked for it when she seemed unsure. You talked it out. You have an answer. Done!

There should be a balance. She's kissing, petting, letting you touch her sexually in many ways, but she's not comfortable with intercourse. You've asked, talked, and she's standing firm. Done!

Time to be more of a man than a boy. You either accept where the relationship is now or you step back. What you don't do is guilt trip or cry about how you aren't getting what you want.

There's no problem with your asking. Even no problem with your applying a little pressure... when its accepted favorably it's a good thing. But she has heard you and she's drawn the line.

Please stop asking for ways to manipulate someone into having sex when she doesn't want to have sex. Absolutely no good will come out of it. If she consents shell be mentally frustrated and unhappy, feel used, and question your motivation for the relationship.

If she were to write in here from her perspective, after trying to meet your needs but also knowing she wasn't ready, and still getting pressure from you, id probably tell her to be done with you. Sorry, but it's the truth.

lella87
Mar 19, 2008, 03:20 PM
LOL synnen. Damn men.. They just don't understand do they. Look, maybe the girl just isn't comfortable having sex with him. She could insecuries with her body or some nasty rash down there that he wouldn't know about... maybe it hurts her.. maybe your being to pushy... MAYBE you should go and talk to her about it ;)