View Full Version : 4 month old puppy acting weird! people that helped (Merged)
llyndzy
Nov 28, 2007, 08:36 PM
:( my 3 month old puppy is acting really weird... we have only had him for one month and
Not eating or drinking, hardly playing, not pooping, when he pees its clear.
SO NOT NORMAL! He's normaly eating his meals and drinking constantly (not litturaly-vurtually), pooping a few times a day and totally hyper.
We just got some vitamin suplamint stuff to give him protein and some puppy milk stuff too.
We did the suplamint but waiting a while for the milk stuff. And he's had his first set of shots and his next one is this sat. we still need to get him for his Rabies though.
OH and he has a strong bite apperently... we gave him a rib bone (from a BBQ) and ate like half of it. We have a few theories but arnt sure... I really need some help. I'm terrified for my puppy scense some how I got my dad to finally get one.
bushg
Nov 28, 2007, 08:44 PM
Don't give your dog rib bones, he may not be pooping because of this, actually don't give him bones at all. If he doesn't poop by tomorrow you had better take him to the vet. If he were mine I would try to get him in tonight.
Let the vet tell you if he needs supplements and puppy milk, don't give him this own your own. It may be too much for his young system.
I am sure he does not care if your dad has a new dog, he would probably enjoy a playmate, so I really doubt if that is the cause of his problems.
llyndzy
Nov 28, 2007, 08:58 PM
K well its late and I have school tomorrow, so anyone who has something to say, leave a message and ill check it tomorrow (or today depending on when you see this or where you are!)
labman
Nov 28, 2007, 09:22 PM
So what happened to the other half of the bone? If you don't know, the vet may find it blocking his intestinal tract somewhere. At least it will show up on an X-ray. Bones can cause a number of problems, and as much as dogs love them, they are not worth the risk. No dog was ever harmed by not eating bones.
If you are feeding any sort of a decent dog or puppy chow, he shouldn't need any supplements or vitamins. In fact calcium supplements can create more harm than good messing up the careful balance with phosphorus in the chow and blocking the body from using what it needs. If your vet suggests calcium supplements, I suggest a different vet.
I suggest you read through the sticky at https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/information-articles-our-dogs-expert-labman-53153.html#post251802
Karinski
Nov 29, 2007, 02:34 AM
:( my 3 month old puppy is acting really weird... we have only had him for one month and
not eating or drinking, hardly playing, not pooping, when he pees its clear.
SO NOT NORMAL! hes normaly eating his meals and drinking constantly (not litturaly-vurtually), pooping a few times a day and totaly hyper.
we just got some vitamin suplamint stuff to give him protien and some puppy milk stuff too.
we did the suplamint but waiting a while for the milk stuff. and he's had his first set of shots and his next one is this sat. we still need to get him for his Rabies though.
OH and he has a strong bite apperently.... we gave him a rib bone (from a BBQ) and ate like half of it. we have a few theories but arnt sure.... i really need some help. im terrified for my puppy scense some how i got my dad to finaly get one.
You need to get your puppy in to see your vet TODAY. Call your vet as soon as you can and arrange to get him in there. His behavior isn't normal, the bone could be stuck in his intestines, he could have some puppy virus (since he's still getting shots he's not totally protected yet), could be something small like a bladder infection but you will really be risking his life if you don't get him into a vet today, even if it's inconvenient or expensive. It's not worth losing your puppy over!
Good luck,
Karinski
PS - Everyone's right, unless the vet says so he doesn't need supplements nor milk, just a good brand of food.
llyndzy
Nov 29, 2007, 11:18 AM
:confused: OK so yesterday and the 2 days before he was acting really weird, not eating, not pooping, pee was clear, and a few other things.
Then last night we gave him... to be exact...
ESBILAC milk replacer for puppies, and
Nutri-Cal puppy high calorie dietary supplement for puppies.-puppy approved-
Now he's pooped (diarrhea) and he ate today, started with chicken (my mom made it this morning for her lunch and he was sniffing so I gave him a small piece to see if hed eat it- he did) and drank some water between couple of bites,(small cut up peices) and now he just ate some of his puppy food (hard dog food) and his acting better... getting hyper by the hour, I swear! XD
What does that mean??
Do I still need to take him in to the vet??
Or is he going to be OK??
Does that mean I have to keep him on what ever we gave him?? :confused:
RubyPitbull
Nov 29, 2007, 11:45 AM
Ll, I had to go back and read your post from last night. Frankly, I don't like the fact that he has diarrhea. It may be caused by the NutriCal, it may be caused by the bone he ate. Hard to say. (Just as an FYI, the problem with feeding them cooked bones is that they splinter and can perforate the stomach and bowels. That would kill a dog if a vet can't get to him in time). If he is now eating his chow, and seems more energetic, don't give him any more NutriCal and just feed him his hard food as you have done. See what his poop looks like this afternoon. If he still has diarrhea, if there is blood in his stool, if he doesn't poop or his energy level goes down and he appears lethargic, get him to the vet before the end of the day. If his poop appears normal, it is a safe bet that the bone passed through him when he had diarrhea and you just need to watch him carefully over the next day. If he continues to eat his chow and poop normally, you can wait until your appointment on Saturday to discuss this whole situation with the vet. Keep all bones, rawhides, treats,. away from him. Stick to the dried chow only. Keep the food simple and it will be easier for you to assess what is happening. Poop is always a good indicator as to what is going on in your dogs digestive tract.
labman
Nov 29, 2007, 12:08 PM
I go along with RubyPitbull. I will add if you see any sign of blood in the stools including the black tarry stuff from the upper part of the tract, don't wait for Saturday.
labman
Nov 30, 2007, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by llyndzy I accidentally merged it into my last post. I can't see how to unmerge something.
OK so instead of taking him in to the vet to get a Kat scan, x-ray, M.R.I. or a biopsy, and sense they don’t have a chicken noodle soup for dogs (a.k.a. Jewish penicillin) we just tried a high calorie dietary supplement and ESBILAC, a milk replacer.
(All for puppies)... and guess what?? HES FINE! It took a day to FULLY recover, but that next morning after we gave it to him (@ 6:18 a.m.) he was already eating. And today he is eating normally. Poop is normal. Drinking water... just normal.
So, no offence, but those of you who replied to my last 2, really need to consider an alternate solution before freaking out. Just use some common sense and think it over... I really appreciate the help, but try not to freak out and think of the possibilities. Try a few things, and if those don’t work, than you can think about taking the animal in.
labman
Nov 30, 2007, 08:01 PM
I am as happy to hear the dog is fine as anybody.
However, otherwise the above post is a great example of the folly of inexperienced people generalizing from one incident with one dog. The average dog owner has no idea how little they know. llyndzy, your dog had some symptoms that could have been from something serious. We don't know what the cause was. It could well have been from the rib bone. Or it could have been many other things. If it was the rib bone, a sharp end of it could have torn his insides up. Or the bone could have hung up and blocked the digestive tract. Your advice could kill somebody else's dog. If they read your post and disregard the advice of the more experienced people here, and their dog has something that it won't survive without prompt care, it could die because of you. Do you want that responsibility?
RubyPitbull
Nov 30, 2007, 08:27 PM
labman, am I to understand that what is written under your post #9 is actually from the OP llyndzy? Who is she talking to here? You and Karinski? llyndzy, I am very disheartened by your response to people who were trying to help you. That post is most unkind and unwarranted. I see you never responded to my input in post #7. Is it easier for you to tear people apart than thank someone? Based upon what you wrote in your first post, at that time, their responses were very appropriate. Your puppy was extremely lucky that the bone passed through his system. EXTREMELY lucky. What labman has written in post #10 is very true. Please, do not feed your dog any more cooked bones. Next time he might not be so lucky. Please don't be fooled into thinking that the milk replacement is a cure for this. It really isn't. Tomorrow when you speak to your vet, have a discussion about this with him. He will tell you what we have told you here.
labman
Nov 30, 2007, 10:03 PM
Yes Ruby, after I merged llyndzy's first 2 threads into one, she started a third. I accidentally merged it into my post. I then made a second post and deleted it from my first.
I am not sure llyndzy is so much unkind, as just inexperienced. Goodness knows we have plenty of other people that think owning a dog qualifies them to give others advice on dogs. I am sure she sincerely believes we made a big fuss over nothing.
RubyPitbull
Nov 30, 2007, 10:18 PM
Quite kind of you to see it that way labman. Okay, I will take back the word "unkind". But I am leaving the word "unwarranted". ;)