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orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 07:11 AM
Been married for 24 years and to be honest although I've never had an orgasm from anymeans him or me, I honestly don't even know if I get aroused, I feel absolutely nothing at all, from anything that we try
In the end we just get down to him coming and stuff and then that's it over and sleep, help its driving us both mad here
Marriedguy
Nov 6, 2007, 07:19 AM
You never had an orgasm. We need more information has he tried oral? How is the foreplay? You may be able to have an orgasm it just make be hard to reach then most. Also you did mention that anyone before the marriage.. is your husband you only partner you been with.
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 07:23 AM
Thanks for replying
Yes he tries that, we got he book she cums first and he reckons that he does everything that's in there, I can't tell you what he does as it's that boring and I don't feel any of it.
Foreply? Not so sure really what you mean, he/we kiss for a while then he will kiss my neck and then put his hand down to see if I'm wet, that's when he goes down on me, if I'm not wet, then he could be there for hours on end, I actually fell asleep 3 times with him down there doing that,
Is that any help for you? I hope so
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 07:54 AM
thanks for replying
yes he tries that, we got he book she cums first and he reckons that he does everything thats in there, i can't tell you what he does as its that boring and i dont feel any of it.
foreply? not so sure really what you mean, he/we kiss for a while then he will kiss my neck and then put his hand down to see if im wet, thats when he goes down on me, if im not wet, then he could be there for hours on end, i actually fell asleep 3 times with him down there doing that,.
is that any help for you? i hope so
Have you tried a vibrator my wife and I have been married for 9 years and I got her one 2 moths ago to spice things up and she has orgasms more then every good luck
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 08:01 AM
Yes we have a few different ones but I still don't know if or when or what being aroused is
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 08:07 AM
yes we have a few different ones but i stil dont know if or when or what being aroused is
You can't feal any thing not even the vibration
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 08:09 AM
Nope noot a thing, I have even plugged my ears as its only the sond that I hear then I know its switched on
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 08:12 AM
Well if you are getting wet you are aroused, have you tried masturbation by yourself can you have a orgasm that way?
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 08:15 AM
I have tried that but can't even get wet myself ansd have great difficulty with hubby
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 08:19 AM
Well you know yourself better the he dose so if you can't get yourself off how can he help get you off. Also have you have an surgery or damage in that area to lose felling
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 08:29 AM
Thing is though I only started to try and masterbate recently, up until then I never knew that women did actually orgasm I thought that was solely for men, and as for a c lit? Never heard of it.
I've never been any different, even though we have had 3 kids by c section due to failed delivery, that is the only thing I've ever had done down there
As for me trying myself , I can't get anything in side of me, fingers or vib it just don't fit! I know that sounds stupid, as he can and does get inside with no problem but I can't do it, so the vib is for outside only and then I can't feel anything, when he tried with his fingers all I get is this very painful need to pee and that hurts so much I can't stand it and get him to stop, I have heard that this is normal and that its meant to pass so how long before that happens? I've suffered this for 30 minutes and still nothing it doesn't go away ever
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 09:20 AM
You don't sick the vibe in you work it around the clitoris that shod work paly around with it in the tub or shower anything make sure you use lube
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 09:30 AM
But that's just what we have been doing with the vib and it does nothing at all for me on there, I cnt even tell if its turned on or not except for the noise of it
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 09:35 AM
but thats just what we have been doing with the vib and it does nothing at all for me on there, i cnt even tell if its turned on or not except for the noise of it
Dose you get it wet
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 09:37 AM
No
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 10:01 AM
Oh you mean the vib? No we can't use any of them in the bath as they have either batteries or are mainspowered
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 10:02 AM
Dose any thing trun you on
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 10:04 AM
Not sure what you mean
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 10:06 AM
What arouses you
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 10:07 AM
I don't know if I did I wouldn't be asking would I as then id know what arousal was
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 10:08 AM
Sorry I'm not trying to be funny but I thought that would be obvious
john 321
Nov 6, 2007, 10:10 AM
I wish I could help you have you gone for help by a specialist
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 10:12 AM
We tried that route a while back but all we had was months of doing sensate focus, taking it in turns to rub each other, I hated every moment of it though and hadn't a clue what I was meant to be doing, for him or me. In the end I was having panick attacks about it and when we told her she just ignored that and said more of the same in the end huby told her that what ever she had planned wasn't working and she then said that she couldn't help!
Ash123
Nov 6, 2007, 11:34 AM
Hmmm, you sound like you are living an unhealthy life... and perhaps an unhappy childhood. Your normal sense of pleasure is not there... and has been replaced.
How was your childhood?
How is your marriage?
You may need a pro counselor.
Marriedguy
Nov 6, 2007, 12:00 PM
Sorry to hear about this situation. Are you stimulated or there is no feeling at all? I would see a doctor about this situation not being arousal could be a mental thing or a physical thing or both. Have you had a sexually trama?
jbarrington
Nov 6, 2007, 12:25 PM
Trying to explain arousal to a person that says they have never felt it could be close to trying to explain what the colors of the rainbow are to a blind person. It could be done, but it might take a little while to do it.
Arousal is something that gets your attention, perks you up, and turns on a feeling, desire or an attraction for something more than anything else at that moment. I guess arousal could sometimes be seen as a “lite” addiction because it helps feed something in you and then it's gone until the next time you think about it. Have you ever wanted something sooo bad (that's an arousal example) and when you get it (the stimulus example), the desire is satisfied within moments (that's an orgasm example)? A piece of chocolate? A long and good backor, foot massage? Something that you just have to have and then when you get it, you feel good. Arousal could be seen as something close to one of those examples.
You would need to feel something like those brief examples toward your husband. You REALLY want his hugs. You WANT him to take you to the bedroom. You WANT him to lay next to you and close. You NEED him to touch you.
This could be a medical condition relating to something physical or psychological. Of course, it be something as simple as that you are not really into your husband for some reason.
I'm going to take a moment to stop and rattle off a few random things that might help shed some light on possible things that could be influencing your problem. Reading your main question along with your follow up replies made me think of many of these. It could help me or others help you.
Is there anything of a sexual nature that might seem naughty or wicked that you might like to think about and do not want your husband to know about? Perhaps a fantasy of a male (movie star, neighbor, or somebody that you have made up)? These could be sexual things that arouse you.
Was there something that attracted you originally to your husband when you first met? Something that made you want to be close to him or be with him deeper? Something that made you want to be with him all the time? If it is yes, then those early feelings would be examples of some level of arousal for him.
Do you really love your husband (honestly)? Do you just care for your husband as a close friend? Do you like him? Apologies if any of these questions offended. The answers may or may not help.
Although I can't be really sure, I'm getting the sense that you care for your husband (why else would you be asking for help), but you might have been raise to seriously believe that anything related to sex was considered nasty or dirty. If this is true, then this could be an example of a type of psychological condition.
I don't know what to recommend to you as far as any medical conditions towards possible physical problems.
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 01:19 PM
Sorry about repling this way it's the only thing I can think of to help explain and answer each thing your asking about.
Trying to explain arousal to a person that says they have never felt it could be close to trying to explain what the colors of the rainbow are to a blind person. It could be done, but it might take a little while to do it.
Arousal is something that gets your attention, perks you up, and turns on a feeling, desire or an attraction for something more than anything else at that moment. I guess arousal could sometimes be seen as a “lite” addiction because it helps feed something in you and then it's gone until the next time you think about it. Have you ever wanted something sooo bad (that's an arousal example) and when you get it (the stimulus example), the desire is satisfied within moments (that's an orgasm example)? A piece of chocolate? A long and good backor, foot massage? Something that you just have to have and then when you get it, you feel good. Arousal could be seen as something close to one of those examples.
You would need to feel something like those brief examples toward your husband. You REALLY want his hugs. You WANT him to take you to the bedroom. You WANT him to lay next to you and close. You NEED him to touch you.
ok i love it when he comes home, and gives me a kiss, it makes me laugh when the dog looks at us and goes "huff" in a disgust way!!!. do i need him to touch? no i have never felt that way about him at all.
This could be a medical condition relating to something physical or psychological. Of course, it be something as simple as that you are not really into your husband for some reason.
not so sure what your meaning about this point.
I'm going to take a moment to stop and rattle off a few random things that might help shed some light on possible things that could be influencing your problem. Reading your main question along with your follow up replies made me think of many of these. It could help me or others help you.
Is there anything of a sexual nature that might seem naughty or wicked that you might like to think about and do not want your husband to know about? Perhaps a fantasy of a male (movie star, neighbor, or somebody that you have made up)? These could be sexual things that arouse you.
i dont have any "fantasies" at all, i have no idea how you do that. the nearest thing i could have would be to have the similar experiences that you all normally have, but alas i dont.
Was there something that attracted you originally to your husband when you first met? Something that made you want to be close to him or be with him deeper? Something that made you want to be with him all the time? If it is yes, then those early feelings would be examples of some level of arousal for him.
yes it was his eyes, but once again, that has gone, they no longer sparkle, they are tired and worn out.
Do you really love your husband (honestly)? Do you just care for your husband as a close friend? Do you like him? Apologies if any of these questions offended. The answers may or may not help.
oh i sure do love him with al my heart, i would protect him without thought to myself,
Although I can't be really sure, I'm getting the sense that you care for your husband (why else would you be asking for help), but you might have been raise to seriously believe that anything related to sex was considered nasty or dirty. If this is true, then this could be an example of a type of psychological condition.
thing that i dont understand about that is, as i didnt ever know that women did orgasm how could ihave "switched" my head of from something that i never expected to feel. i honestly thought that orgasm was a totally male thing. sex as far as parents where concerned was something saved for marriage. and that was as far as the learning from them went. no conversations etc about it ever.
I don't know what to recommend to you as far as any medical conditions towards possible physical problems.
I hope this might help.
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 01:28 PM
Hmmm, you sound like you are living an unhealthy life... and perhaps an unhappy childhood. Your normal sense of pleasure is not there... and has been replaced.
How was your childhood?
How is your marriage?
You may need a pro counselor.
In what way do you mean an unhealthy life? I don't do drugs etc etc, I eat well and allthat sort of stuff, I'm not on any medication for anything.
My childhood wasn't good, I was adopted to people that shouldn't have been given the right to look after kids, they didn't abuse me as such but well she just wasn't in a state of mind to look after kids, and spent most of her time either in hospital or bed being busy being so called "ill" no doctor ever found anything wrong with her. I spent most my freetime looking after her and my sister.
Like any other marriage we have had our ups and downs, but over all it is good, we love each other dearly.
Tried the sex counseling thing a while back and as I said it never worked one little bit, I really can't face going back again as she is the only one available to us.
jbarrington
Nov 6, 2007, 02:11 PM
Thanks for your honest answers to me and to others that asked.:)
I realize that some of my comments or questions might have seemed to be all over the place, but I now get the real sense that you love and care for your husband. You seem to have no problem with any type of relationship connection with him, but you could be only allowing it to proceed up to a certain point and won't allow it to proceed any further for some reason. Sort of like a self denial of a certain level of pleasure
I'm getting the strong sense there are deeper issues here than what people here can help you with. There could be several things going on here with not allowing yourself to seemingly know and enjoy any pleasure for yourself (arousal). Perhaps, since you mention it, some of your situation could be from having to look after your adoptive mother and sister. You were force into being a parent and denying time forself. Having to take care her and your sister may have denied you from enjoying things in your childhood. You could still be "stuck" in a type of feeling of self guilt towards not consciously allowing yourself to truly have pleasure, to accept that it could be okay to invest in yourself instead of others.
If any of this could sound like it might be possible, you should seriously take the time and have a few sessions with a professional who can help lead and teach you how to feel that it's okay to allow yourself pleasure without guilt. :)
Ash123
Nov 6, 2007, 03:29 PM
hmmm, you sound like you are living an unhealthy life....and perhaps an unhappy childhood. your normal sense of pleasure is not there...and has been replaced.
how was your childhood?
how is your marriage?
you may need a pro counselor.
in what way do you mean an unhealthy life? i dont do drugs etc etc, i eat well and allthat sort of stuff, im not on any medication for anything.
my childhood wasnt good, i was adopted to people that shouldnt have been given the right to look after kids, they didnt abuse me as such but well she just wasnt in a state of mind to look after kids, and spent most of her time either in hospital or bed being busy being so called "ill" no doctor ever found anything wrong with her. i spent most my freetime looking after her and my sister.
like any other marriage we have had our ups and downs, but over all it is good, we love each other dearly.
tried the sex councelling thing a while back and as i said it never worked one little bit, i really can't face going back again as she is the only one available to us.
Yes, I mean Mentally unhealthy...
Our childhood's play a BIG part in who we are**
You were emotionally abandoned and did not learn to associate pleasure with love.***
It was a CHORE.
Now what do you do?
1. Be physically healthy. Eat right. Sleep enough. Get exercise. Be the right weight for your age and size.
2. EXPLAIN to your husband that you need some guilt free love and to escape... try a weekend away. Does he love you? Learn to give yourself the "ok" to be pampered...
And just try to relax and enjoy something... it doesn't have to be sex.
3. Next, get a massage and enjoy it. Could be from a masage therapist.
4. have your husband massage you and you him...
5. be intimate in a trusting place with no responsibilities... do the one thing you always wanted or have liked in the past.
6. keep going... it takes time... explain that you both can benefit from a new life...
I would say couples counseling is an option... most of all take 3 hours a week and indulge... and try to share that time: hiking, movies, reading, massage, swimming, bubble bath, sex, a nice meal out or in... with your husband.
Peace
A
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 03:47 PM
1. Be physically healthy. Eat right. Sleep enough. Get exercise. Be the right weight for your age and size.
I am
2. EXPLAIN to your husband that you need some guilt free love and to escape... try a weekend away. Does he love you? Learn to give yourself the "ok" to be pampered...
And just try to relax and enjoy something... it doesn't have to be sex.
We go away a lot we have a caravan and use it most weekends,
3. Next, get a massage and enjoy it. Could be from a masage therapist.
I hate massages, never had or can't afford a proper one though
4. have your husband massage you and you him... tried that and it gave me panick attacks
5. be intimate in a trusting place with no responsibilities... do the one thing you always wanted or have liked in the past. Have no idea what that is
6. keep going... it takes time... explain that you both can benefit from a new life...
I would say couples counseling is an option... most of all take 3 hours a week and indulge... and try to share that time: hiking, movies, reading, massage, swimming, bubble bath, sex, a nice meal out or in... with your husband.
I have no interest in any of those things at all
Synnen
Nov 6, 2007, 04:24 PM
From what I've seen of your answers, you've got some sort of trauma associated with sex. Panic attacks from a massage are NOT a good sign.
Please... see a counselor, a therapist, someone. Start on your own, and then bring your husband with you later.
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 04:42 PM
I can't get to see one the doctors won't send me even if I wanted to after seeing that horrible woman
Synnen
Nov 6, 2007, 04:52 PM
Why not?
Everyone is entitled to a second opinion from a different counselor!
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 05:06 PM
Not like that in the uk though
Synnen
Nov 6, 2007, 05:10 PM
Ah... that sucks.
I really think you need to see another counselor.
Is it possible to talk to someone in your church? I really think you need to see a counselor, and if you weren't satisfied with the one you had--well--can you file a complaint against her?
orgless
Nov 6, 2007, 05:30 PM
OK I don't go to church and yes we did complain about her and reported her, so I really am stuck
Synnen
Nov 6, 2007, 05:49 PM
I personally think there is some sort of psychological trauma that is bothering you, and preventing you from fulling enjoying your married life.
I wish that there were some way for you to see a counselor :(
jbarrington
Nov 6, 2007, 06:31 PM
Not trying to be disrespectful, but I currently can't think of a polite way to say this.
I find it difficult to believe that you have limited or no options left for your well being. There have to be avenues left. There have to be contacts that can guide or direct you to or through the proper channels. Preists, friends that know health professionals, public help telephone numbers.
Xrayman
Nov 6, 2007, 07:14 PM
I noticed that you had no real idea of the clitoris.. not sure if you know now. Any way... Clitoris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoris)
I agree with the above, although you may have some physical issue as well you may need to consult a sexual plastic surgeon-yes they exist! There may be a method to increases the sensitivity of your clitoris-you may have a "hidden" one-there is a kind of circumcision that will expose the clitoris... any way I am finding it hard to locate a ref for you without the pages of FGM coming up. (I hope that this is not the reason-and that we all have underestimated the REAL cause of your Anorgasmia)..
The real issue seems to be related to your sub-concious you may need some personal time (mentally and sexually) to explore yourself.
Ash123
Nov 6, 2007, 08:37 PM
As I said, you have not dealt with childhood pain and will be stuck FOR LIFE -
if you don't step up and find a guru, counselor, mentor, friend, motivation to help you live... otherwise you are (I hate to say it)... a quitter.
The answers are here if you wish to use them. There is no magic pill or cure. Only the breakthrough of hard work and honesty will get you there. You are too scared to live. I am proud of you for coming here - but it's only the first step. Seek out others with panic disorders... you may be surprised how helpful it can be for you.
whisperingwind06
Nov 7, 2007, 06:19 PM
I recommend you see a doctor you may actually have a low testosterone level. It is natural for women to have this. I believe 10% of women in the US have this problem, you both should see a sex doctor and find out what you both can do to be happy.
orgless
Nov 8, 2007, 12:18 AM
Thing is we have already done this and I have had testosterone implant put in me over a period of 9 months eventually getting to the highest level but I had to ask what was it meant to be doing as I felt no difference, other than a sore belly for a few weeks when she put them in! We have been to a sex therapist together this was totally unsuccessful as all she had us doing was sensate focus and then telling her how it made me feel, I was un listened to so eventually we stopped going. There are no more in this area for us to see
JFFTidus
Nov 8, 2007, 12:44 AM
The best way to not have one is to worry about having one during the act. I've read about this before and had a girl friend that had the same problem as you. We tried quite a few times and ended up just sore and raw. So after a while I started to read books on it and its true that the brain is the first part to work on. You need to relax light some candles set the mood with some music. Get into making love by him first going oral then to too intercourse. It doesn't matter if he cums first but he needs to continue satisfying you while not make you feel like you're a chore like doing the dishes. Let him continue with maybe a vibrator and most importantly don't think just relax. The most important part of it is your sense of feeling down there. Don't try to push for an experience that is a reflex. It will build on its own. Only once you know how it works can you start to search for it. Its going to take your boyfriends dedication but most importantly you need to drop the stress. Good luck.
orgless
Nov 8, 2007, 12:55 AM
I'm not trying to be pickyhere OK but he's my husband we have been married for 24 years now so if this was a reflex thing then surely it would have happened by now? He's done the oral thing on me for hours at a time, nothing, I actually fall asleep, it gets boring for me after a few seconds of nothingness. He's used so many types of vibs on me but still nothing,
As I said for 23 years I never knew women had orgasms, and although ultimately an orgasm is what we would like to happen, I understand that without me feeling anything beforehand that is not going to work, so me "shutting" this of from my mind isn't part of the prbolem here as it was never in there in the first place
JFFTidus
Nov 8, 2007, 01:04 AM
Humm this is a hard one then. Let me check up on what I can. But the doctor is a good idea. Is it possible for you to travel else where and see a doctor?
JFFTidus
Nov 8, 2007, 01:05 AM
Humm this is a hard one then. Let me check up on what I can. But the doctor is a good idea. Is it possible for you to travel else where and see a doctor?
orgless
Nov 8, 2007, 01:14 AM
It would be possible if there where any available in this country unfortunatlely in the uk that help is little and hard tofind. The nhs system here doesn't seem to cater for this problem very well at all.
orgless
Nov 8, 2007, 01:20 AM
Oh yes I just sent you a pm if that's OK
JFFTidus
Nov 8, 2007, 01:22 AM
I hate to just throw web links up but you might want to check this out.
Sexual Dysfunction in Women: What Can I Do If Sex Isn't Working for Me? -- familydoctor.org (http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/women/reproductive/sex-dys/612.html)
whisperingwind06
Nov 9, 2007, 01:42 PM
Hmm... you've tried everything that I could think of. Ever heard of Mystery Diagnosis on the Discovery Health Channel. Maybe there is something more to your case than a lack of libido. Is there anything unusual about your body? Maybe you get aches or pains for no reason, fatigued often? Have you had blood work done? There was a case a while back where a woman had no labido at all and it ruined her marriage, only to find out that she had polycystic ovarian syndrome. She was misdiagnosed with a low testosterone level and was given shots but it only made things worse.
Her episode is called "Why is emily screaming?" she'll be the second case on the video or disc. But I may be wrong about the whole thing but its always good to have a fresh look on things.