View Full Version : Troy Built Tiller- No Start after Oil Change
maya07
Oct 7, 2007, 06:52 PM
Hello,
I just purchased a used tiller that was running fine before the oil change.
No manual was provided to me so I am a little unsure as to the process to change the
Oil, more specifically how much oil to add (no dipstick). I put in two quarts which filled
It to the top of the block. Now when I pull the starter cord there seems to be
Too much compression inside the motor, it will not pull to start. This tiller has two drain plugs, two yellow caps at the base of the motor one reads oil fill, and the other says nothing.
There is also a white cap located at the top of the block which appears to be where you add the oil. The tiller is a 2004 Troy-Built Super Bronco model # 21A634A766.
This appears to be a pretty standard model that Lowe's carries. Can anyone send me some
Advise, I have a sneaking suspicion two quarts is too much oil. I have searched the
Internet to try to download a manual, but it appears I will need to purchase one
And I really need this tiller to be up and running the week (asap).
Thanks,
Adrienne
jocko009
Oct 7, 2007, 07:42 PM
Hello,
I just purchased a used tiller that was running fine before the oil change.
No manual was provided to me so I am a little unsure as to the process to change the
oil, more specifically how much oil to add (no dipstick). I put in two quarts which filled
it to the top of the the block. Now when I pull the starter cord there seems to be
to much compression inside the motor, it will not pull to start. This tiller has two drain plugs, two yellow caps at the base of the motor one reads oil fill, and the other says nothing.
There is also a white cap located at the top of the block which appears to be where you add the oil. The tiller is a 2004 Troy-Built Super Bronco model # 21A634A766.
This appears to be a pretty standard model that Lowe's carries. Can anyone send me some
advise, I have a sneaking suspicion two quarts is to much oil. I have searched the
internet to try to download a manual, but it appears I will need to purchase one
and I really need this tiller to be up and running the week (asap).
Thanks,
Adrienne
Most small motors use about one quart of oil. If that is right, then two quarts fills it so full that the piston does not have room to move forward for the down stroke, Since on the down stroke there must be an air space for the piston to move into.
For starters, I would drain out all of the oil, and refill with one quart. Also check to see if oil flows out of the oil fill hole when about one quart is added
Lots of luck Jocko009
MOWERMAN2468
Oct 7, 2007, 07:43 PM
Well, I certainly agree that two quarts is too much oil. I would think that it would hold 18, or 20 oz. if there is no dipstick, set the tine depth to where the tiller's motor is setting level, then remove the yellow cap and fill to the top of the hole on the bottom side of hole.
maya07
Oct 8, 2007, 05:41 PM
Many thanks, to the two that posted advise to my questions. I made to decision to
Take it to the shop today and it looks like it has a problem inside the motor with some
Type of compression release assembly. Just to let you know when I took it in this
a.m. the first thing that was done was to drain all of the oil and refill to the proper level.
Still too much compression, second the repair man seem to think that the valves needed to
Be adjusted, still did not fix. The last conclusion was to break down the motor to replace
The compression release assembly. This is information that in the end I am paying for but wanted to share the knowledge.
MOWERMAN2468
Oct 9, 2007, 06:44 PM
Don't expect to get out of this one cheaply, unless it is still in warranty.
Billybe7
Jun 14, 2008, 03:20 PM
Hello,
I just purchased a used tiller that was running fine before the oil change.
No manual was provided to me so I am a little unsure as to the process to change the
oil, more specifically how much oil to add (no dipstick). I put in two quarts which filled
it to the top of the the block. Now when I pull the starter cord there seems to be
to much compression inside the motor, it will not pull to start. This tiller has two drain plugs, two yellow caps at the base of the motor one reads oil fill, and the other says nothing.
There is also a white cap located at the top of the block which appears to be where you add the oil. The tiller is a 2004 Troy-Built Super Bronco model # 21A634A766.
This appears to be a pretty standard model that Lowe's carries. Can anyone send me some
advise, I have a sneaking suspicion two quarts is to much oil. I have searched the
internet to try to download a manual, but it appears I will need to purchase one
and I really need this tiller to be up and running the week (asap).
Thanks,
Adrienne
You need to drain the oil and remove the yellow plug that says oil filler add oil to this hole until it starts to come out of the hole. It should take about 6\8 of a quart. You have too much oil in there now.
MOWERMAN2468
Jun 15, 2008, 08:03 AM
18 to 20 ounces should be sufficient. Fill and check.