I'm wanting to purchase Diana Stalder Skin bleach and Kojic Soap. Has any one tried them and if so what are your results?

So beside using stalder bleach cream you are using another lightening cream?

I've ordered the whitening crème, lotion and papaya soap, from south gain. This is my 3rd day using the product. Haven't seen any results yet, I assume it may take a month or so. I am a med. Brown skin tone of African descent. Do you think I will have results and if so how long before I notice? The papaya soap seems to burn a little when applied to face is this normal?


At first i was using the bleaching body kit consist of papaya kojic soap, body whitening lotion (which i preferred to apply in my body not on my face) and skin moist lotion. Then after that kit i tried the melasma kit: black soap, lightening cream, skin toner , facial lotion and sbf collagen creme as my sunscreen and foundation. After i finished my black soap i was already happy with my skin shade/tone. So this time i decided to use the licorice soap which is mild. But i'm still using the lightening creme for my blemishes and the sbf collagen creme which i think i'll be using it forever- it's a 2 in 1- foundation and a sunscreen; saves money. I love it!

I ordered the same package from eBay and I have noticed my skin is peeling abit since using it but it has made my skin a lot clearer using the soap and then the whitening cream. Has anyone noticed any stinging?I have really bad eye circles as well so I am using a lemon juice and almond oil mixture under my eyes so that might explain the stinging but please let me know how your results are going!

Hi Shazzy
I too have some stinging/ burning.

I ordered the same package from ebay and i have noticed my skin is peeling abit since using it but it has made my skin alot clearer using the soap and then the whitening cream. Has anyone noticed any stinging?I have really bad eye circles as well so I am using a lemon juice and almond oil mixture under my eyes so that might explain the stinging but please let me know how your results are going!

My skin started to peel yesterday, more around the eyes and nose. It's very red and sensitive. Is this normal?

Yeah, i experienced that, too. In the instruction kit they said let it stand/lather for 4-3 mins. for me i let it stand for 2 mins (face) and on my body longer than that and i used a loofah or wash cloth to scub. It expoliates your skin and will make it smoother and lighter. Just be patient and keep using it...that's what i did...keep expecting that once i used it i'll be whiter right away. I think if your skin is really sensitive better use the black soap- that's a whitening soap too. This is my experienced with that product.

I had the same problem. The area around my eyes started peeling heavily and it was very sore.I have stopped using the lemon juice and almond oil mixture to see if the stalder products alone can help lighten my dark circles. It's a hassle applying foundation on your skin though because it flakes off from all the skin peeling that's going on.Can anyone tell me if the skin peeling is permanent or just temporary?

My skin is still peeling and very sore, face and neck so I haven't been applying the soap on those areas. I'm going to purchase the black soap because they say that it is milder. But my skin is a least a shade lighter and it has only been a week and I'm not even applying it twice a day. I think that it alone will lighten the circles around your eyes. I'm not sure of how dark the circles are or your skin tone, but this stuff is working for me. It's taken a little slower for my arms but I'm going to keep using these products. I applied make up once but yes the peeling makes it very horrible looking. Honestly I haven't put any on since the one time but my face now looks amazing with out it.


I had the same exact problem. The area around my eyes started peeling heavily and it was very sore.I have stopped using the lemon juice and almond oil mixture to see if the stalder products alone can help lighten my dark circles. Its a hassle applying foundation on your skin though because it flakes off from all the skin peeling thats going on.Can anyone tell me if the skin peeling is permanent or just temporary?

Hey thanks for replying! I haven't used the cream or soap in a whole week because I bruised my face really bad from a hair removing incident which may have been triggered by the soreness and peeling from the creams. (no I'm not hairy beast!) My skin colour is olive and my eye circles are quite dark but I am going to see whether the creams can do the trick.If not then I am back to the lemon juice thing. I have noticed that the cream works fast on your face. I haven't used the creams long at all but my complexion is very clear. Going to see if the peeling reappears too because its so annoying having dry peeling skin because everyone notices!

Hey whitebutterfly - does the skin peeling eventually stop though or is it a continuous thing because it is always going to exfoliate your skin the more you use it because that's going to be more of a hassle because of the dry skin look. Im using the black papaya soap and then I apply the whitening cream and then I use the lotion on my neck and arms and hands only. The bottles are tiny! I was so amazed at how tiny the bottles were when they arrived. I don't apply sunscreen or sunblock because I don't think its necessary applying so much on your skin and especially since its always raining in the UK! I avoid make up at times and especially foundation because I know that eventually the creams should eradicate any need to cover up patchiness or blemishes therefore foundation won't be needed. Keep updating with results guys!

Yup I've noticed my skin is much smoother and is the most brightest after I have used the soap. I'm using the black beauty bar which I think is the papaya one?Then I use the whitening cream on my face and then I use the body whitening lotion on my neck and arms.Is this package the melasma kit?? I have no idea! I got my package from eBay and I know people have said its not trustworthy but it was quite cheap and I think it is the real deal because we have all had the same results from the whole kit but it is labelled as diane stalder products. Where did you get yours from guys?

I received my products from southgain as well, I got the orange papaya soap, body whitening lotion and whitening crème. Yes items are small so I'm actually about to purchase more. Is there a difference in the whitening lotion and the lightening lotion? If so then what is the difference, and which one will give you better results (lightest skin tone)


body bleaching kit ( papaya soap, body whitening lotion and skin moist plus lotion) melasma kit ( black soap, skin toner, sbf collagen cream, facial lotion and a lightening cream) gt it at southgain.com they are the official or authorized didtributor here in USA so i'm very sure i gt the genuine products. One of my item was bought through auction. Nice to hear all the positive results...It's kinda exciting...

Yeah most people on here have brought there's from southgain but I don't know the difference in price. I live in the UK and it cost me £16 ($32) for the body bleaching kit and I thought it was quite cheap until I saw the size! They were shipped from the Philippines and it took around 10 days to arrive which was a hassle but all the results I have heard are positive so far which is encouraging me to stock up and buy more. Just wish the lotion bottle was bigger so I can use it on other areas as I am limited to using it only on my arms and neck for now but the rest of my body is fair which is weird. Is anyone using the lotion on their face at all?I have started using it on top of the whitening cream on my eyes so it has double the strength to remove my eye circles. Wish me luck!

Thanks whitebutterfly but can I ask how long have you been using the creams because you have had excellent results already.Your 100% right about me applying both creams to my eyes as it is a very sensitive area but I have had no problems so far. The stinging has gone down a lot and Im sure I have seen an improvement in my eye circles.I was supposed to write above that I did buy mine from eBay because they were a lot cheaper than anywhere else. Just like you I have spent a lot of money on stupid creams like makari and fair and white. I can't believe they actually sell that kind of stuff. My skin is so soft with these creams. Honestly I can't stop touching it! I forget to apply the lotion a lot so I haven't seen much results on my arms but I only use a tiny bit because I don't want it to run out! How long do you guys apply the soap for?My trick is to apply the soap first and then brush my teeth and that way it uses up time and the soap gets to work on my face while I'm brushing my teeth!

Hello whitebutterfly, thanks for letting me know the difference about the lotions I'm going to get some lightening lotion for my arms so that it can catch up with my face. Also I seen on the site that they have lightening and whitening creams. Also you just mentioned that you started with the whitening then went to lightening cream. Can you please explain the difference in the two creams.


You're welcome, shazzy. It's my pleasure to share my positive experience and enjoyment with Diana stalder products (can wear any color of clothes now); anyone can see me now in the dark hahahaha. I think i finished 6 whitening creams and then switched to lightening cream but not to forget i finished 2 bleaching kits + 3 papaya soaps, one melasma kit + 2 black soaps and now I’m into licorice (pink) for a very mild soap just to maintain. I'm still using the lightening cream i am applying the cream once a day but it's not like before that i applied 2-3x a day. I still have some little dark spots to remove. I take a shower 2x a day am/pm using the soap, lather it and use a magic towel scrub (you can choose any scrub you like) to scrub all over my body and let it stand for few minutes then shampoo my hair. If it's start to sting i rinse it right away. After towel dry- i apply the lotion right away- tip: put your lotion near the towel or tub so you'll not forget to use it. I can't stop thanking my friend for sharing this Diana stalder and now southgain is my favorite ebay seller - their gain is my gain, too. I think i gain more than they do - my skin is softer, smoother and lighter and I’m so satisfied....hahaha.

How much lotion, cream and soap to use: it depends on your skin tone, your desired shade and satisfaction. Have a nice day.

Hey whitebutterfly! You've been through so many lightening kits! I'm still on my first one and today I noticed the skin around my eyes is peeling. Its either my eyes or nose that peel though, I don't know why. Hopefully the skin around my eyes is peeling to bring back the colour around my skin that it was around four years ago. It is a sensitive area for me to be working on but I have noticed a tiny improvement around my eyes. The rest of my skin is looking so nice these days and it looks one overall colour and very smooth. Once my eyes have returned back to their colour then I can face wearing decent eye make up! Can I just ask you guys what skin shade you were and what skin shade you are now?

That's excellent.I wish I was more patient though.Hopefully this will be the last product I ever use.I'v gone through so many products thinking they were the one but it all ended in disappoinment.Good luck you guys!

Hey, I was a med/light brown. Also for some reason the skin around my hair line is a shade darker now, not sure why the cream isn't lightening that part of my face. The rest of my face is turning fair. Im looking a little strange now that the corner from my eyes on back to my hair line is darker. You guys have any reason why this may be so?

thats excellent.I wish i was more patient though.Hopefully this will be the last product i ever use.I'v gone through so many products thinking they were the one but it all ended in disappoinment.Good luck u guys!

I have no idea why the area around your hairline is darker.Have you tried applying the cream more on that area so it can match the rest of your skin? My eyes are quite sore still and the skin is heavily peeling around that area.Looks red sometimes but I'm going to use the cream for a bit longer to see if it has having any effect ony my dark circles despite the soreness

The stinging goes away after about a week or too... I've been using for a while now and I leave it on for up to 10 minutes now... (Soaps) with no problem... I have not lightened a tremendous amount... you cannot expect miracles from a soap and a cream... well at least don't be startled if you are not white after using these products... lol... they are great for brightening... I love the clarity of my complexion... no uneveness... so expect that... I am dark skinned... hispanic-Hindi/Indian complexion... also use a moisturizer afterwards also... preferably something that absorbs well like natural oil lotions and creams... not petroleum based lotions... my skin is not overly sensitive however... in other words very few things break me out... it is not tough either lol... but a bit of irritation should be expected for a little while... exercise common sense however... if it is unbearable... inflammed, or rash... you might have a serious problem...

Boricua1,

Can you let me know how long you have been using the Stalder products and if you would personally recommend it. Thanks

Thanks boricua I just needed to know if the stinging does eventually go away because I am either going to have to give up the soap or cream if it still continues because every time my eyes start watering the area around it starts stinging like crazy but thanks whitebutterfly I'm definitely going to apply a moisturiser because it will help the stinging and dry skin too.Does anyone have any scars that they had and did these creams fade them successfully?I have a few spot scars and I have loads of beauty spots on my face so my face can look pretty crowded with scars if you look from a far but I'm trying to get rid of all the old scars.Just wanted to know if its going to be a slow process with these creams?

I feel the same way about the soap, The stinging is crazy, I didn't use for 2 days and when I applied again it took only a few seconds before it started burning again. I'm going to try the black soap. Also thanks guys, I have been applying closer to the hair line maybe I was missing it or something (strange).

Thanks boricua i just needed to know if the stinging does eventually go away because i am either going to have to give up the soap or cream if it stil continues because everytime my eyes start watering the area around it starts stinging like crazy but thanks whitebutterfly im definitly going to apply a moisturiser because it will help the stinging and dry skin too.Does anyone have any scars that they had and did these creams fade them successfully?I have a few spot scars and i have loads of beauty spots on my face so my face can look pretty crowded with scars if u look from a far but im trying to get rid of all the old scars.Just wanted to know if its going to be a slow process with these creams??

Hey so sexy I didn't apply the soap today because I can't handle the stinging but I might apply it every few days.Im using the black soap too. I don't think the stinging will ever go away!

I stopped using the soap for a few days, after I started to apply it again it didn't sting much. How is your lightening going?

hey so sexy i didnt apply the soap today because i can't handle the stinging but i might apply it every few days.Im using the black soap too. I dont think the stinging will ever go away!

Heyy I don't use the cream or soap a day or 2 before I remove hair from my face because the stinging causes mad reactions like bruising and scabs but once my face has calmed down then I'm going to use them again.Stinging is mad around my eyes.Peeling heavily too.Can anyone tell me that's a good sign?My face is very clear and bright still.How about you guys?

My face is clear as well. I need to order more. I'm looking into another company who I have seen amazing results from.

heyy i dont use the cream or soap a day or 2 before i remove hair from my face because the stinging causes mad reactions like bruising and scabs but once my face has calmed down then im going to use them again.Stinging is mad around my eyes.Peeling heavily too.Can anyone tell me thats a good sign?My face is very clear and bright still.How about u guys?

Hey so sexy what other products have u used so far?

I haven't purchased anything from WOE yet, but I'm wanting to go with the lemon or mega blast creams along with the vitamins. Whitebutterfly I do like diana stalder products a lot. What I was assuming maybe I would try products from WOE Because they seem to give dramatic results, being much whiter, Than use diana Stalder to maintain. WBF How white or light have youy goten with Diana Stalder products?

:) Made me smile. I remembered the time i was like you (so sexy) I bought products and used it for awhile then researched again and saw one thing looks amazing with what other saying. Will change again and again. But i told myself if i will do that how will i really know which is really good for me. So i decided to be patient and give a time limit-2mos-3mos if nothing happened hahahaha will change again.

I was the same.God I didn't know how much the topic of skin lightening can mature a person.I used to buy lightening products and swear by them to my sister and each one was as disastrous as the next but I didn't want to admit that to my sister as I was still searching for the perfect one.Im swearing by diane stalder products but I still think I could get the same results with other creams minus the stinging because the stinging has dried out my face and is making it peel as if I have exzema.I luved makari at one point but that is the worst cream ever after 2 weeks of using it.Spots and scars breakout everywhere. Used fair and white but that was crapppp.Now I'm on this kit.Nice results but could do without the stinging.

Im a very light brownish/yellow tone. I would like to become lighter, to match my hair. Which is very thick and wavy. Ppl are confused about my race.

i was the exact same.God i didnt know how much the topic of skin lightening can mature a person.I used to buy lightening products and swear by them to my sister and each one was as disastrous as the next but i didnt want to admit that to my sister as i was still searching for the perfect one.Im swearing by diane stalder products but i still think i could get the same results with other creams minus the stinging because the stinging has dried out my face and is making it peel as if i have exzema.I luved makari at one point but that is the worst cream ever after 2 weeks of using it.Spots and scars breakout everywhere. Used fair and white but that was crapppp.Now im on this kit.Nice results but could do without the stinging.

I'm wanting to purchase Diana Stalder Skin bleach and Kojic Soap. Has any one tryed them and if so what are your results?
Hi I have been using the Diana Stalder orange soap and cream for about 2 weeks know it amazing I am a white woman with lots of freckles and wanted to remove them ,it has in no question fading them I am so pleased with the result so far I feel so much more confident and happy in myself but I would recommend any one that uses it to have a sun protector of 50+ , I got mine off eBay for about £10.00 worth every panny and the lady who sold me was fantasic , so any one wanting to buy it just do it but remember if you have very sensitive skin go for the black soap but if your skin is normal I would go for the orange as it works faster thank you Diana Stalder your are truly a amazing product

I am using a 50 spf sunsreen, ulftra sweatproof by coppertone sport purchased at Walgreens.[
QUOTE=tweety1973]hi I have been using the Diana Stalder orange soap and cream for about 2 weeks know it amazing I am a white woman with lots of freckles and wanted to remove them ,it has in no question fading them I am so pleased with the result so far I feel so much more confident and happy in myself but I would recommend any one that uses it to have a sun protector of 50+ , I got mine off eBay for about £10.00 worth every panny and the lady who sold me was fantasic , so any one wanting to buy it just do it but remember if you have very sensitive skin go for the black soap but if your skin is normal I would go for the orange as it works faster thank you Diana Stalder your are truly a amazing product[/QUOTE]

How is this working so far for you? I am also African American and I would like to lighten my face & neck. They both have become much darker than the rest of my body. I'm so confused as to which product/kit I should order. Suggestions anyone?



I've ordered the whitening creme, lotion and papaya soap, from south gain. This is my 3rd day using the product. Havent seen any results yet, I asume it may take a month or so. I am a med. brown skin tone of African descent. Do you think I will have results and if so how long before I notice? The papaya soap seems to burn a little when applyed to face is this normal?

I'm a bit confused. When I receive my products, should I apply near or within a small range of my hairline?
Do I need to avoid my beautiful dark eye brows?
What are the affects if this product touches your hair?. does it lighten it?

I just don't' want to apply it then have blonde eye brows. I have a chocolate face and neck and am light brown over the rest of my body, blonde eye brows would really be a mean thing on my face!! :p


Hey, I was a med/light brown. Also for some reason the skin around my hair line is a shade darker now, not sure why the cream isnt lightening that part of my face. The rest of my face is turning fair. Im looking alittle strange now that the corner from my eyes on back to my hair line is darker. You guys have any reason why this may be so?

Received my product today from Southgain. I'll keep you guys posted.

WHB How is your progress with the lightening of your arms and legs?


It will not whiten your hair/eye brows. I still have my dark brown hair and my skin is glowing light brown. Just be careful when apply around your eyes, ok. If you have a very sensitive skin better use the black soap. As you know papaya kojic soap is stronger it exfoliates the skin. Just be patient and enjoy the product.This is very effective and affordable. And use a sunscreen gel or cream. Never think once you use it for a week you
'll have a white skin. Whatever whitening/lightening product will never happen. But you'll see some progress little by little. Good Luck.

Hi WBF,

When you says she uses it longer, do you mean she lets the product stay on longer or that she has been using the product for quite some time? I'm still wondering if this will work for me. I never felt any sensation, stinging or anything. I guess I was kind of using that as a determination as whether this was made for my skin type. We'll see...

I'll hang in there and let you know what happens. I'm so anxious... I keep looking in the mirror!! HAHAHAHA



Very happy.

Actually, 2 weeks ago we went camping/fishing and boating. It was my first time to enjoy being out of the sun (of course I use sunscreen) for the whole day because I know if I get burned and become so dark again I don't need to worry because i have my Diana Stalder products. It was true I was burned and now I’m back with my bleaching kit (remember I told you last time that I was using the Licorice (pink) soap for maintenance). In just a week my skin getting lighter again and maybe because I was light brown already (from very dark brown) it doesn’t take too long to be back again…. Now I can watched football, baseball without wearing a very thick long sleeve shirt or without saying, “sorry I can’t go”. Although I spend money again for this product it’s no regret because I know it’s working right n my skin.

My friend who recommended this product- wow, you won’t believe it. She’s an African-American and her skin now is way way to impossible…Her skin shade is just the same as mine now. But she uses it longer than I do. I lose in our bet. Now will pay for her next 2 orders of Diana Stalder it’s a double expenses for me hahaha but I’m very thankful to her. If not maybe I’m still searching and buying those non-sense product and will charge me more.

Hey guys I'm so glad its working for you lot.im back to using it again after I forgot to take it with me on a break.No stinging so far but I think I might have gotten past the stinging part.Still have clear and bright skin but the area around my eyes has started peeling again damn it!

I got the bleaching kit I think.The cream, lotion and black soap. I use the cream and then I put abit of the lotion on top of my eyes to work faster because of my eye circles. Bottles are tiny so I'm trying to use them sparingly because the delivery takes yearsss

Well I'm only two days in but...

In the morning I use the Papaya Soap, toner, lightening lotion and skin moist lotion. At night I use Papaya Soap, toner, whitening cream. Both of these regimens are used on my entire face and neck including eye area. I have not experienced any degree of stinging, burning or anything of the sort. I leave the soap on for 10 minutes each time... again nothing burns or stings. I'll keep you informed...

If nothing else... I love the way my skin feels now. Now... if it will lighten up, it will be perfect!!



Ok, my labeled diana stalder bleaching kit consist of body bleaching lotion, papaya soap and the skin moist plus lotion - to avoid dryness of the skin and use as sunscreen. I think you gt your kit to other ebayer. Can't comment on that. The kit with cream and facial lotion i'm talking about is the melasma kit this is with black soap...If you use the whitening cream on around of your eyes of course expect you'll have some peeling because the whitening cream is stronger than the lightening cream...Well, i'm talking about the diana stalder cream...I never use the whitening/lightening lotion on my face. Yes ..applying the lightening lotion around your eyes will help to work faster but remember this is dual action/ stronger and remember the skin around your eyes is sensitive it might cause you a lot stinging or peeling. Maybe you can use the whitening cream around it.... You can get those cream out of the kit..

I buy my products from southgain, I just ordered some different products from WOE. I'm still going to use my DS products after I use WOE for a while, I want to maintain with DS.
DS products are great. Haven't used the WOE before but with others comments I was interested.


where do you find this stuff and do it really work

So Sexy,

Did you get any results from your DS Products? How long did you use them independently?


I buy my products from southgain, I just ordered some different products from WOE. I'm still gonna use my DS products after I use WOE for a while, I want to maintain with DS.
DS products are great. Havent used the WOE before but with others comments I was interested.

Yes these products are good for me. Ive been using them now for like 3 weeks. On the 3rd day I seen results. My face looks pale now. I haven't even worn makeup lately.


So Sexy,

Did you get any results from your DS Products? How long did you use them independently?

So the DS products work well? I'm curious as to why you are switching?


Yes these products are good for me. Ive been using them now for like 3 weeks. On the 3rd day I seen results. My face looks pale now. I havent even worn makeup lately.

The Woe products are very expensive, but the jars are larger. I also see great results with the before and after pics from people that use these products. I'm wanting to at least have two companys who I know is good just in case something happens to one, I don't want to have to start looking all over again for the good stuff.



So the DS products work well? I'm curious as to why you are switching?

Well, keep me posted on how the WOE products works for you. I'm going to stick to the DS Products for now. My ultimately goal is to lighten my skin so I'll wait to see if this does the trick. As of now, I can say I LOVE the orange Papaya soap. It makes my skin feel soft and silky.


The Woe products are very expensive, but the jars are larger. I also see great results with the before and after pics from people that use these products. I'm wanting to atleast have two companys who i know is good just incase something happens to one, I don't want to have to start looking all over again for the good stuff.

I hear that the mega blast can lighten u extremely, Because I have such good results already with the DS, I ordered the lemon cream. If I don't get the results that I want with the lemon cream I'm going to try the Mega blast. I really need my arms lighten especially after this summer. Have you used the lemon cream before? I just ordered on Thursday so I'm not sure when it will come in. But I will keep everyone posted.


sexy what did you order from WOE the mega blast is good.

It's a been only a few days and NOW I know what you guys mean when you talk about the stinging sensation. For me, its not when I put the soap on but when I take it off! I have to wait 5 minutes or so before I can use the toner stringent. I am also peeling a little around my nose area, nothing significant though. Oh yeah, the area around my eye seems to sting the most. Tonight I'm not going to apply the soap heavily around my eye area. It's not unbearable but just enough for me to notice.

Wish me luck! I love the way the soap has softened my skin!

Thanks...

No stinging or anything today. Not any difference is my color either, well I guess I shouldn't expect a difference yet. I've been using the kit for less than a week... hahaha

Again, my skin look soooo good! I know I'm going to continue using this soap if all else fails! It does wonders for softening your skin. It's now my bath soap, I had to kick Oil Of Olay to the curb!! My entire body feels silky and smooth. I hope it will lighten my skin too, if so I'll call this soap a miracle worker!!



Now it start to have a sting effect and peel- soap is really working now…exfoliating your skin and later gonna be lighten. You can alternate it with black soap every other day if you can’t bear the sensation. Don’t rub the toner too hard. If peeling too much don’t forget to use a moisturizer…you can use a Diana Stalder or even your own moisturizer.

Though I'm unsure of your skin type or ethnicity... I'm curious to know the amount of time it took before you could notice a difference in your skin tone.



Hahaha...It's a matter of patience...

Well now I understand why you've had such great success. I was told by the people at SouthGain that this product hardly ever fails on people of Asian or Philippine descent. They said they've only had a handful of African American's report success. Which of course doesn't mean that it won't work, just means that they weren't able to give me very much insight on how this will work for me. You said you were dark skin, I've NEVER seen a dark skin Asian person. Maybe your perception of dark skin is very different than mine. The Asian people I come in contact with are ALWAYS light, yeah they may have blemishes but no where near dark skin, as in African American dark skin!

Thanks so much for your help, it's been a pleasure. I'll keep you posted. Oh and I'll post a photo of my dark facial area, which again is very much so darker than the rest of my body.




Asian. I used to have a very dry skin, very dark brown complexion, and a lot of black blemishes. It was really ugly. Spent thousand of dollars trying a lot of whitening/lightening products but didn’t help just only washed away my money and time. I went to a dermatologist but didn’t really work out good. Actually in 2 weeks time using this product I’ve noticed that my skin getting a little bit lighter just “little” so I said, “at least it’s working so keep using those products and be patient. It’s been 42 days already- Dark brown to glowing light brown. My friend (African-American) seems like 2-3mos and now between medium to light brown. (Sorry really don’t know what color is between the medium and light brown)

Most of the whitening product they mentioned here I tried it already except the glutathione pills- never will take pills though they are saying no side effects but I’m scared the effect later in the future.

I totally understand what you mean. People of other races say they are dark but indeed they are light compared to African American. I am referred to being light Skin By people of African American, My father being AFrican American and My mother being Hispanic, Too Dark races. Some of my all Black cousins Are much lighter than I am with light eyes. But any way Because I am part black (I think more black than hispanic) DS products work for me. Stick with them and give them a chance.


Well now I understand why you've had such great success. I was told by the people at SouthGain that this product hardly ever fails on people of Asian or Philippine descent. They said they've only had a handful of African American's report success. Which of course doesn't mean that it won't work, just means that they weren't able to give me very much insight on how this will work for me. You said you were dark skin, I've NEVER seen a dark skin Asian person. Maybe your perception of dark skin is very different than mine. The Asian people I come in contact with are ALWAYS light, yeah they may have blemishes but no where near dark skin, as in African American dark skin!

Thanks so much for your help, it's been a pleasure. I'll keep you posted. Oh and I'll post a photo of my dark facial area, which again is very much so darker than the rest of my body.

Okay, so you see my skin color in my attached photo. Do you think they will work for me?

Either way, I'm going to continue using to see and the Papaya soap I'll use forever but I'm curious to know if this product is created to work for African Americans.


I totally understand what you mean. People of other races say they are dark but indeed they are light compared to African American. I am refered to being light Skin By people of African American, My father being AFrican American and My mother being Hispanic, Too Dark races. Some of my all Black cousins Are much lighter than I am with light eyes. But any way Because I am part black (I think more black than hispanic) DS products work for me. Stick with them and give them a chance.

I really think that this is a great product, yes because of your darker complexion you haven't had instant results. It worked for me on the third day. It'll probably take a lil' longer for you. My very young daughter is dark skin and if she has a problem with her skin tone when she is older I will for sure let her use these products if they are still around. But I tell her every day that she is a beautiful princess. She is the darkest of my kids. Even though her features are very European looking, (nose, wavy hair). I know she feels different because she is very dark. But if my encouraging words alone doesn't keep her loving herself. I will let her know about the products in about 10 years, LOL :)


Okay, so you see my skin color in my attached photo. Do you think they will work for me?

Either way, I'm going to continue using to see and the Papaya soap I'll use forever but I'm curious to know if this product is created to work for African Americans.

Hiya guys!

I read the whole post and glad to see the product is working well well for you. I'm in the UK and hoping to buy some of the diana products.
My problem is my whole body is light golden brown but my face is darker. My face is very uneven as well. Dark chin, dark upper lip area, dark under eye circles and dark forehead plus lots of scars on my cheek. I'm indian asian. Do I have to buy the kit or just the soap and cream as I'm happy with my skin on my body. Just want my face to be matched up to my body.

At the moment I'm using stillman's bleaching cream and arche pearl cream but want to stop as it's not really helping. Plus, stillman's doesn't say what ingredients it has in it. :(

Hey punk chic I used stilmans and arche too but it didn't work at all.I was recommended that I should mix arche, stilmans, fair and lovely together but it seem to get me brighter and didn't clear any of my scars up. I'm asian too and have the same problems as you with the under eye circles and quite a few scars on my cheeks. Im using the diane stalder creams and I'm quite happy with the results so far.I got mine on eBay and it was quite cheap.Just wish I could get something for my under eye circles

hey punk chic i used stilmans and arche too but it didnt work at all.i was recommended that i should mix arche, stilmans, fair and lovely together but it seem to get me brighter and didnt clear any of my scars up. im asian too and have the exact same problems as you with the under eye circles and quite a few scars on my cheeks. Im using the diane stalder creams and im quite happy with the results so far.i got mine on ebay and it was quite cheap.Just wish i could get something for my under eye circles

Heya. Thanks for your reply.
So you can't use Diana Stalder on under eye circles? I think it'd look a bit weird if my face was matched to the colour of my body yet my dark circles are still there. Lol!
I'm in the UK so anyone know where I can get it from? Thanks :)

Be really careful when u apply it on the eye area.im focusing heavily on that area and that's why it stings quite a bit still.might give it up and just get a decent eye cream but my face is still getting brighter with the diane stalder cream so I'm glad something's working for me finally!

Wow. The product sounds really promising. :)
But first got to find where I can get it from then I'll post my feedback.

One more question, do you use the lightening lotion or the whitening cream around the eyes? And does it give wrinkles?

Thanks guys! :D

Well, today made two weeks and I see absolutely NO RESULTS!! I know it may be too soon but it is becoming very discouraging. I'm baffled when I read you guys post about stinging, peeling, etc. I've gotten a tad bit of stinging on day 3 and nothing since and no peeling whatsoever. I let the Papaya soap stay on twice daily for 10-15 minutes and nothing!

Well, today made two weeks and I see absolutely NO RESULTS!!! I know it may be too soon but it is becoming very discouraging. I'm baffled when I read you guys post about stinging, peeling, etc. I've gotten a tad bit of stinging on day 3 and nothing since and no peeling whatsoever. I let the Papaya soap stay on twice daily for 10-15 minutes and nothing!!

Aww don't give up! I saw your picture that you posted up and I think your skin might need some more time. So maybe give it another week or so and who knows?
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HEY OAE, Just an update about the WOE products, I still can't really see any results from the cream. Yesterday I purchased 5 more DS Whitening creams, cause I know that works. I'm going to continue to use the WOE products on my legs. But as of now not thinking of ordering more of anything from them(WOE). Also has any of you used the Kojic Acid creams?
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Well, today made two weeks and I see absolutely NO RESULTS!!! I know it may be too soon but it is becoming very discouraging. I'm baffled when I read you guys post about stinging, peeling, etc. I've gotten a tad bit of stinging on day 3 and nothing since and no peeling whatsoever. I let the Papaya soap stay on twice daily for 10-15 minutes and nothing!!

HEY OAE, Just an update about the WOE products, I still can't really see any results from the cream. Yesterday I purchased 5 more DS Whitening creams, cause I know that works. I'm gonna continue to use the WOE products on my legs. But as of now not thinking of ordering more of anything from them(WOE). Also has any of you used the Kojic Acid creams?
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I read somewhere that WOE creams are a scam and that they don't work. Lol.
The only kojic acid cream I've used it from Palmers called even tone? Butdidn't work on my pigmentation.
How is skin looking now? How much has it lightened and how long you been using it for?
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I've been using WOE for about a week. ANd DS for about a little over a month with great results.

I read somewhere that WOE creams are a scam and that they don't work. Lol.
The only kojic acid cream I've used it from Palmers called even tone? Butdidn't work on my pigmentation.
How is skin looking now? How much has it lightened and how long you been using it for?
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I've been looking at southgain's products. They are quite cheap but the postage is a bit high! Found someone on eBay that delivers it from the Philippines and the shipping cost isn't all that expensive so hoping to get mine from there.
How long does 1 kit last? :)

The shipping for myself was very inexspensive, Like I stated I ordered 5 creams yesterday at $4.50 shipping for first item and $1 ea. additional item. That is cheap to me because I paid way more when I purchaseded 1 item from WOE.


it depends on how big/small the area you're gonna apply. And really- how much cream you're gonna use. It's in the jar said apply very thin- but sometimes i applied more and i use it twice a day instead of once a day.

I ordered mine from the Philippines. But I messaged southgain asking about postage discounts. Not got a reply yet though.

Check your email because southgain will email you bsck asap. They are true to there customers.

I ordered mine from the philipines. But I messaged southgain asking about postage discounts. Not got a reply back yet though.

Sexy...

How is the WOE Products? I read their forum and they are off the chain in there!! Some saying the product is wonderful and others saying it's a scam. How was your packaged? Did it look professional? Does it list the ingredients?

So far I haven't really seen results, today I thought maybe but not for sure, I am only using on my legs because one is lighter than the other. It does list the ingredients. I am about to check my mail I hope my order from Southgain has arrived. Will keep you guys updated! I know when I first started using DS within days I knew I was lightening.
Yes at times their Forum is CRAZY!!


Sexy...

How is the WOE Products? I read their forum and they are off the chain in there!!! Some saying the product is wonderful and others saying its a scam. How was your packaged? Did it look professional? Does it list the ingredients?

RALPHEAL: Yes I seen your results and they were great, It was your photos that made me order. I seen lots of photos and from women you can maybe use things like extra light, lighter make-up to have it seem as though you have lighten. Well your photo being a guy I knew your results were true. I haven't purchased the MegaBlast yet. I really don't want to spend $200. I have previously stated that I achieved great results from DS products so I didn't think that I would need the stronger Mega Blast. I was hoping to see good results from WOE and then switch back to DS just to maintain, because DS products are less exspensive. But I just purchased more DS products they work well on me. I will continue to use the WOE on my legs to see what happens. I hear its good for legs.


have you tried the mega blast cream sexy from woe. It works fast. I used it and I went from very dark skinned man to a light brown. I dont know if I sent you my before and after pics, but to see them you can email me at [email protected]

I think Ralp probably works for WOE, why else has he got only 3 posts? Think it is a scam as I've heard a lot of negative stuff about it. The only positive I've heard about it is from people like Ralp saying "E-mail me and I will show you before and after pics", and that's all they ever seem to say. Coincidence?

I'm waiting for my DS products to arrive. Now, they have ALWAYS had a good reputation so the product seems promising. Can't wait to use it. :)

Forgot to ask, how many Papaya kojic acid soaps have you all used? And how many did you use till you switched to the black soap? And does the black soap contain kojic acid too?
Thanks. :)

I myself have only used one, I still have my first bar that I use sometime. The soap stung so bad that I didn't use as much. I didn't order anymore soap when I ordered last week. I will use the soap maybe once a week so what I have will probably last for another month. I'm not sure how often everyone else uses the soap. And yes I do use the Papaya


Forgot to ask, how many Papaya kojic acid soaps have you all used? And how many did you use till you switched to the black soap? And does the black soap contain kojic acid too?
Thanks. :)

I myself have only used one, I still have my first bar that I use sometime. The soap stung so bad that I didnt use as much. I didnt order anymore soap when I ordered last week. I will use the soap maybe once a week so what I have wil probably last for another month. I'm not sure how often everyone else uses the soap. And yes I do use the Papaya

So are you now using the black soap? And is it just as effective? The kit I ordered contains the papaya soap. But think I'll order some black soaps also, so can alternate with the papaya one in case it stings like crazy.

I'm wanting to purchase Diana Stalder Skin bleach and Kojic Soap. Has any one tryed them and if so what are your results?
I have rule, if goods somehow related to health and has someone's name in product label, then its probably fake.
It works well for everything else too.

Hello sexy, can you tell me exactly what to buy , I am a little confused, and guys I bought from world of entertainment for almost a thousand dollars, I am using them now for over 3 months, not seeing great results, I want to get DS there prices are reasonable and they seem to work for all the posts here, and could some one tell me the best glutathione to buy, I just lost the previous posts about this , I just made a decision to go with DS and get ligit glutathione

Thanks Whitebutterfly, what exactly to buy and how much do I need to last me for 5 months to last me for and the legit web site, and how much would that cost me?

Though I have not experienced any whitening yet (been using almost 3 weeks). I love and prefer the Papaya soap opposed to the Black soap. It makes your skin feel smooth and silky, whereas the black totally dries my skin out. I'm so mad that I bought two of them too, because I'll probably never use them. I need more Papaya soap, it has become my regular bath soap now. I love the way it makes my entire body feel.



These are for the genuine DS
Papaya kojic soap (color orange)- Kojic and papaine
Black Soap (color black) - Licorice and Kojic
Licorice soap (color pink)- Licorice

gt the info at DS FAQ at southgain

Your fault? For what?


I'm very sorry OA, think my fault.

Officialeyes. Please don't lose hope. It's only been nearly 3 weeks. With other products pescribed by dermatologists, it takes about six months. Give it another couple of weeks and see how it works.

Still waiting for mine to arrive, can't wait to use it! My skin has broke out really bad, got spots everywhere. :(

The lady said she will ship it today. Many people get it within 7-15 days.

MUNA, Yes everything that Whitebutterfly says is true from my use of DS products as well. Yes I'm using the WOE products on my legs with no results. I don't like to say that they are not affective they are just not working for me. They seem to work for some people. Those people who they work for love and brag about the product, and because they do people tend to think that they work for the company. Its not me or whoever to say. I know DS products work for me and because of that I'm too going to brag and recommend DS products to who ever ask. DS is so much cheaper and HELL it works for me and others who I've talked to. Now as you read it doesn't work as fast on some people. But I would rather pay I small amount for a few months until I see results than pay $200 and who knows. We have to try and use what works for us. But YES I'm going to brag now B/C DS works for me.
I'm not for sure who asked but My first kit came with the Papaya soap. Other than that I've bought items separately. They do combine shipping.


Hello sexy, can you tell me exactly what to buy , I am a little confused, and guys I bought from world of entertainment for almost a thousand dollars, I am using them now for over 3 months, not seeing great results, I want to get DS there prices are reasonable and they seem to work for all the posts here, and could some one tell me the best glutathione to buy, I just lost the previous posts about this , I just made a decision to go with DS and get ligit glutathione

Southgain is OK for people from the usa but not outside it because its too expensive. I asked for a quote on shipping. Too bloody expensive can't afford it so sticking to Philippines lady.

WBF: How is your arms coming along, The purchase I made recently of the whitening cream I'm using only on my arms. I thought the cream would be better and stronger than the lotion.


Shazzy, any update?

Hey whitebutterfly! My skins lightened up pretty nice but sorry to say that my eye circles are looking darker and darker by day.In the past few days I have stopped applying DS on my eyes because they were too sore to even touch or rub. Thank god that I stopped because they are back to normal now but I think I need a decent eye cream to get rid of my eye circles.Otherwise everything is going great.Do you recommend put the body whitening lotion on your face?Im about to run out of the cream and while I'm waiting for my next delivery I was thinking of using the lotion on my face in the meantime

DS should come out with an eye crème, lol.

Just updating everyone... so far no lightening whatsoever. I don't even get the tingling that you all speak of. I just don't think these products are made for my skin type. I'm considering ordering from WOE.

How long has it been since you've been using it?

Since Oct. 17th. So almost a month


How long has it been since you've been using it?

Thanks whitebutterfly but I'm going to go back to my garnier eye cream but that's how I used to apply it before.With some eye cream and then a lightening cream.When I was using makari I had to stop myself getting spots so I would apply the makari cream and then some witchhazel but those spots were mad with makari! I'm going to use the body lotion on my face until my next order come and officialangeleyez just wait another week or 2 and you might see some results!

Yes OAE you have to find what works for you. You being darker just may take longer. I will say the cream I ordered from WOE has not worked for me and I'm light-skin. I just prefer to stick with DS. But try WOE they do have a cream that is stronger than what I ordered from them, That may work for you. Keep us updated.


Just updating everyone... so far no lightening whatsoever. I don't even get the tingling that you all speak of. I just don't think these products are made for my skin type. I'm considering ordering from WOE.

Yes, officialangeleyes I would like you to get us updated..

I just ordered the Mega Blast Cream from WOE. We'll see what happens. It was kind of expensive but I really want to lighten. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my brown skin but I just to lighten my face & neck (discolorations) to match the rest of my light brown body. We'll see what happens. But I will still continue to use the Papaya Soap from Southgain, going to order more now. I love this soap for my entire body. Unlike you guys, it doesn't sting or anything. It gives my skin a soft & silky feel.



Yes OAE you have to find what works for you. You being darker just may take longer. I will say the cream I ordered from WOE has not worked for me and I'm light-skin. I just prefer to stick with DS. But try WOE they do have a cream that is stronger than what I ordered from them, That may work for you. Keep us updated.

YES OAE Please keep me updated about the cream, I really want to know how this works for you.


I just ordered the Mega Blast Cream from WOE. We'll see what happens. It was kind of expensive but I really want to lighten. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my brown skin but I just to lighten my face & neck (discolorations) to match the rest of my light brown body. We'll see what happens. But I will still continue to use the Papaya Soap from Southgain, gonna order more now. I love this soap for my entire body. Unlike you guys, it doesn't sting or anything. It gives my skin a soft & silky feel.

Oae how have your results been?

Can someone tell me how to recognize real Diana Stalder products... coz I searched on eBay ang Google as well... some have pink lables and some have green... which one is the real one?

I'm interested in buying their collagen crème, it's a foundation? How can it be matched to your skin tone

Is it the SBF Collagen Creme? I'm using this product DS Sbf collagen creme it is a foundation and a suncreen, too. This is a very good product. I was very dark before when i used this and it did matched my color and now that i'm light brown still using it...still perfect!

Yes I'm talking about that one. What colour is it? Does it match to everyone's skin tone? Also how long do I leave the papaya soap on my face and body again? The whitening crème makes my skin feel dry, can I put another moisturizer on top?

Thanks wb. I have been using the soap and cream for over a week now, my face looks like plastic (not peeling yet)and skin burns like crazy when rinsing off is this normal? Waiting anxiously for you reply

Also does anyone know if ds can be purchased from any shops in london as I live there. If not I'm going to order the melasma kit from southgain. Thanks. :D

How do you guys apply the soap?

How long do you leave it on?

Is there supposed to be peeling?

TO MELLOWKAT AND PUNKCHIC: HELL YES, when I first started using the soap I thought it was so abnormal. I felt I was on fire. I tried using still because I wanted the results, then it became so painful that I was hell bump that, So I started using everyother day. It did continue to burn. It finally stopped. THANK HEAVENS. But now I only apply the soap maybe once or twice a week with no burning at all. I think what happens is that its getting rid of your old dead skin which is when it peels. Now I know longer peel or burn. If you can get though it it's well worth it because after that stage I was fine. It you read back when I first started using I asked the same questions, They told me the same and I thought they were crazy because I couldn't deal with the burning, but it does leave.


how do you guys apply the soap?

how long do you leave it on?

is there supposed to be peeling?

That's odd I've been using the soap for almost 2 weeks and it has drastically whitened
My skin

But I haven't felt any burning sensation

And no peeling

Hello Mellokat, what is your original color ? Could you compare it to a celebrity? And do you use it twice with the DS products?

Hey muna my original color is like tyra banks

But the various whitening products I've been using

I'm a very fair color like persia white (from girlfriends)

I only use the ds soap once a night

Thanks mellokat, I am confused about Tyra Bank's and Beyonce's skin color , are they Alisha key's color. Do you think Tyra and Beyonce use skin lightening?
So you think this is the best soap to lighten the skin? Have you tried world of entertainment?

Hey thanks sosexy.

I was starting to get worried, I'm not peeling just my face feels very very tight and looks like plastic. Maybe its probably going to start peeling soon
Any my skin burns/stings like crazy that I rinse it off with cold water instead of warm

Beyonce seems to be naturally fair

But looking at tyra's parents (who are both dark brown)

It makes me wonder because she sometimes looks really brown and sometimes she looks really light

But I wouldn't try world of entertainment

It looks fake and so does the site

And people have been saying it's a scam

But as for the stalder soaps it's the only soap on this forum that people have said works

Hello Mellokat, what is the website where people talk about world of entertainment products?

The site is worldofentertainment23.com

It doesn't look very professional

Sosexy how much have you lightened?

I think I have lightened just slightly. But still hopeful.

I was light skin, but not what you would call high yellow, <My daughter is high yellow and my older daughter told me that I was becoming lighter than her sister. I know my face is pale. I just have to get my arms and legs there.

sosexy how much have you lightened?

I think i have lightened just slightly. But still hopeful.

HEY WBF my legs and arms seem to have lighten a little bit. Not from WOE but from DS I'm using the Ds whitening cream on my arms instead of the lotion. It seems to be a slow process, about to order more.

Hey, so sexy. How's ur leg doin with the WOE? I'm getting lighter than last week...getting lighter and lighter week by week..:) Thanks DS!!!

My skin is peeling a little around my chin area. And my chin is my major concern because that is where I have pigmentation problem. Have a feeling it's going to lighten once peeling stopped!! :)

I've now got a white patch on my cheek, it looks so strange. Is this normal? :confused:

Punk chic the first week my entire face went pale except for around my hairline so I started making sure I was applying the same amount there. You may have been applying it just a little heavier in that area with out realizing it. But yes I was looking strange too but it cleared up in about a week. EVERYONE lets remember we are lightening and each part of our body parts are different. Meaning your face maybe combination so you will have different results at different times but gradaully things will catch up. SO to get what we want we may have to look strange for a day or two until everything catches up. ;)


I've now got a white patch on my cheek, it looks so strange. Is this normal? :confused:

I am really starting to get worried. Around my mouth (chin area) it's got this dark dry skin that's appeared ever since using it, I'm so worried this isn't suppose to be happening? :confused:

Hey wbf, now you can email me,
And i want to tell all the people here i used a lot of stuff and thanks to wbf for shedding light on this wonderful product (diana stadler), it rocks

Im using the mega blast from woe and I can't complain at all. It's the best lightening cream Ive ever used. Ive used the lemon whitening cream, but the mega blast is wayyyy better

What are the ingredients of DS? I don't see a ingredients list anywhere. We should not use it if it has dangerious ingredients. Can anyone confirm and post the actual ingredients?

Mega blast from woe contains hydroquinone, HQ is very bad for health so I am not going to use it. NOWAY.

Some of the Fair & White Exclusive line doesn't have HQ and is good.

whitebutterfly, what color are you now are u yellow? And which producd has arbutin, and licorice?

Hello Redimond, whitebutterfly is awesome, she helped me with DS and she was right, this product is really amazing, I am using it on my face and some parts on my body, I just love it on the face, all whitening products might lighten u up but not necessarily smooth the skin, the soaps are just amazing , I saw results very fast with the face stuff and the soap great for the body and the lightening lotions for spots and very reasonable prices, and I am sure it has no HQ , I know how that smells like, HQ is fast. If you want something fast you can try HQ and maintain with the other stuff like kojic or licorice , but really you will love DS
And there's this mono, every one is using it but we don't know how to get it , it looks like it gives drastic results if it is done right. Well, keep on searching and I will too, if I find the right mono I will let you know if you want to go for something drastic, I will check with doctor as well. God, lots of opinions but I am sure there is a safe way to go about it with an MD supervision, and this Glutathione, lovely said she's got it form a web site which she swears by, they sell it for $38 buck (good price) it's master of antioxidant, but not while pregnant according to my knowledge, something to look for, Hamid says GT to be taken with vitamin c and rosehip and rosehip oil is fantastic on the skin for scars and imperfections, I will find this elusive mono powder, there're talking about and keeping it secret but still talk about it , funny? will let know when I do, take care

I had some kind of peeling around the corners of my mouth but it's gone now but it's left darker skin behind. Is that normal? Will it lighten up?

The peeling stopped and left darker skin behind (weird). I'm using the whitening cream on it hopefully it will lighten up before christmas time!

I have ordered some black soap from southgain for my face and will use the papaya for my knees and elbows.

thank you so much... I am looking for something that will lighten/brighten me up. I want to being out the yellow undertones in my skin. I am african american with a skin color like ashanti(the singer), I mean I love my skin color its full of yellow tones but due to my years of acne I have spot and in even color. My color appears to be murky/dirty because its dark one place, light in another spot... discoloration. Don't get me wrong I love my skin but I want it to be one nice lighter color. I would love to try the peeling soap because that's the key to lightening the skin... but I need a promising skin lighener. Muna, It is hard to find monobenzene to a cetain extent... I know where to buy it but it seems to be risking my skin. Someone told me that it doesn't lighten but kill the skin color cells meaning you go from brown to pasty white-no in betweens. The skin could spot up and its all is permanent. But that person could be wrong. I'ce heard about Benzyl-arbutin and I'm trying it now , its only been a week. World of entertainment seems fishy, and if it does work that it just too much D^#$ money... lol. Plus I perfer to not use hq because it works but after while my skin starts to look sunburn and eww.. well any feedback and suggestions. Thank u both so much for posting back.

hi my name is aesha and i was told to use fair and white to clear up my dark spots caused by cheaper skin lightening creams and it works it has only been about 2 weeks and i can notice a difference. to see me before i started check out MySpace (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=1510565&imageID=13235299&MyToken=69234b69-ede7-4dc6-970c-609d540424e1)
and to see me today check out MySpace (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=1510565&imageID=13812968&MyToken=69234b69-ede7-4dc6-970c-609d540424e1)
i can tell it takes a while to work but it does it is supposed to change your complexion completely but i am only using a few products, not the entire line which will have greater effects.

thank yall so much...i am looking for something that will lighten/brighten me up. I want to being out the yellow undertones in my skin. I am african american with a skin color like ashanti(the singer), I mean I love my skin color its full of yellow tones but due to my years of acne I have spot and in even color. My color appears to be murky/dirty because its dark one place, light in another spot....discoloration. Dont get me wrong I love my skin but i want it to be one nice lighter color. I would love to try the peeling soap because thats the key to lightening the skin...but i need a promising skin lighener. Muna, It is hard to find monobenzene to a cetain extent....I know where to buy it but it seems to be risking my skin. Someone told me that it doesnt lighten but kill the skin color cells meaning you go from brown to pasty white-no in betweens. The skin could spot up and its all is permanent. But that person could be wrong. I'ce heard about Benzyl-arbutin and im trying it now , its only been a week. World of entertainment seems fishy, and if it does work that it just too much D^#$ money...lol. Plus i perfer to not use hq becuase it works but after while my skin starts to look sunburn and eww..well any feedback and suggestions. thank u both so much for posting back.

That's what I want also. My head and mouth area is very dark while the rest of my face is quite light. I'd like it to be one even colour.
I've tried stillman's, arche and also palmers skin success even tone cream but none of them worked. I'm currently using DS. Just hope this will work!!

DS products are safe. There is no hydroquinone. I can't really give you a complete answers for all the products because i haven't try it all. For their whitening ingredients - papain (papaya extract), kojic acid (mushroom extract), Licorice, arbutin, lactic acid, etc...but i didn't see any hydroquinone.

I am light-medium brown asian-indian. I was using bio-claire on my face and body since Aug 15. In 3-4 weeks it made me about 5 shades lighter and for body it took 7-8 weeks to make about 5 shade lighter. The problem started on face after 10 week of using, I got dark shade on my upper cheeks due to foundation I was using so I stopped using it and in 2-3 weeks, I went back to 3-4 shade darker( just 1 shade lighter than I started with). Although my body is same light as before(no darken effect on body). I started using bio claire again and again got 1-2 shade lighter but then again went darker. Now I am only 1 shade lighter than I began with but my bosy is about 4 shades lighter than my face.. it looks odd.
One of my friend is using fair and white exclusive on face for years without being darker(maintaining the lighten effect) and it has highter lighten effects.
I am thinking of DS products a try on my face as it has such nice review. My question is:
1. Will it make me dark again(with continuing using) like bio claire did?
2. How many shades it can lighten?
3. Is there any skin sensivity issue?

Hey WB
I've been using the soap and crème twice daily. It has slightly lightened up the dark marks. It is taking some time but improving.

I guess with my cream (mega blast) the diane stalder is nothing to me. I use to use it and indeed it lightened, but nothing compared to the mega blast cream

I guess with my cream (mega blast) the diane stalder is nothing to me. I use to use it and indeed it lightened, but nothing compared to the mega blast cream

Whatever. You must be a seller.
To prove you are not a seller take a picture of yourself holding up a piece of paper with askmehelpdesk written on it along with your before picture so I know you're the same person, then maybe I will believe you.

That will be very easy if really want to sell or earn money. Punkchic maybe she was right base on her skin- give her a break. Honestly, i hate sellers at this forum it confuses us users or searchers for the right product with good results on our skin.


I don't know what to believe. I have been on other skin lightening forums and sooo many people like ralpheal join the forums and get people to send them e-mails for their before and after pictures for WOE. It can't be a coincidence.
It upsets me to see these sellers try to sell us things that don't work not caring about what we want and that we end up wasting our hard earned money :( :confused:

I ordered my DS kit about 3 weeks ago. I use the k soap twice a day along with the facial bleach cream on my face but I use the body lotion with the soap about once a day. I have experienced the burning and the peeling. I am so red on my chest and under my breast area. I haven't seen a hard core difference but my father says that my darker areas are lightening up. I'm a caramel brown complexion. I just want to be a ta bit lighter (my original complexion) and get these darker spots out of my face. Has any other African American been successful with these products? I read of one but she didn't have much success. I've been using the kit for like 3 weeks. I'm going to continue to use it until I run out and hopefully I'll have more to tell you guys!

This is the color that I am now

http://55.img.v4.skyrock.com/55d/sosiedestar/pics/1049611648_small.jpg

That's good to know that it worked n3rd..
I'm thinking of purchasing this product..
I've used several creams with no avail..

By the way..

Karen Denise Aubert is one of the finest women I've ever seen.
She's gorgeous.

I have been using a week now but no drastic results.but I started with the black soap so I ordered the papaya now to try that . By the way I am indian with ashanti's complexion and I get dark easily so I keep you guys posted. And for me nothing works .this is my last hope. Going on to week 2 hope I get beter results. By the way my skin is a lot smoother though.

thats good to know that it worked n3rd..
im thinking of purchasing this product..
I've used several creams with no avail..

by the way..

Karen Denise Aubert is one of the finest women i've ever seen.
She's gorgeous.

Indeed she is!
I love her.
But back to the products...
Lol.

I can see a difference in my face.
I barely use to lotion because of the peeling
But the face cream is doing fine.
My dark areas are just about gone.
By the time I run out of the cream, they should be fine.
I plan on ordering some more.
I probably will still be using the same bottle of lotion though.
Lol

I have been reading the forum trying to figure out what's best to lighten up my skin. I read Whitebutterfly saying that he/she is black, then she said that she was Asian. So what guarantee is there that she is not the distributor of DS products?

I think skin lightening products work differently on everyone.

I've been using DS for ages now. Maybe 2 months I think? No drastic results. It has slightly lightened my skin. Think when it comes to lightening products, we should never really believe it when people say it is meant to lighten in one week or two. That's just total bull.

I am still using DS. It did lighten my skin slightly which means it is working, so with a little patience I will achieve the results I want. I'm not really dark skinned either.

I just received the my kit today and today is the first day I used the papaya kojic soap and the black licorice soap. I have the bleaching lotion, the two soaps I just mentioned and the bleaching cream (purchased on eBay. All DS). I was born with fair skin and now I have darker skin due to the sun exposure. My hips are still fair though because I never go out with shorts. If I use ds, will it give me my original skin tone back, and fast? Say 2 weeks?:confused:

I just received the my kit today and today is the first day I used the papaya kojic soap and the black licorice soap. I have the bleaching lotion, the two soaps I just mentioned and the bleaching cream (purchased on eBay. All DS). I was born with fair skin and now I have darker skin due to the sun exposure. my hips are still fair though b/c I never go out with shorts. If I use ds, will it give me my original skin tone back, and fast? Say 2 weeks?:confused:

No sorry I don't think you will get your original skin tone back in two weeks. But you might see some slight improvement within those two weeks. You just got to be patient. :)

But I WILL get my original skin color right?

Hi DS users or want to use it, I just want to add that I had very fast results (Melasma kit), I had vitalize peel 2 weeks prior may be that made a difference.
The vitalize peel made my face smooth but it was red and then I started the Melasma kit, saw results in 3 days later. So I don't know, may be the with vitalize peel you will get fast better results? Just thought to share that

BTW I purchased mine from an eBay PowerSeller. She's very friendly & helpful. And now, she's running a 15% sale on her eBay store! $23.79 for a DS kit consist of a bottle of lotion, a jar of cream & a bar of soap!!

That was a very good deal...But sorry- when i checked those 15% items at the website the lotion, cream and soap are unlabeled but there is a DS at the background....She gt some labeled ones but not on sale....I will still get mine with the genuine labeled products....

Didn't you say you used monobenzone before and you got all streaky? How did you rectify it?

Hi whitebutterfly, you told me the lightening creams/lotions are stronger than the whitening creams/ lotions, I don't think that was right, I bought all of them lightening cream/lotion and one whitening cream, you told me to exchange the lightening cream in the Melazma kit to whitening cream that was a good advice, but the body stuff, you told me to get the lightening instead of the whitening I don't think that was right either, all the whitening products are stronger than the lightening ones, I guess it is clear from the name, the lightening cream irritate my face the whitening was good, just thought to point that out for new buyers, buying stuff with a lot of money you want to get the right stuff, I know you mean well WBT and you were great

Hey WBF, I like the facial stuff very much, they're very good, but like you said exchange the lightening cream to the whitening , the lightening facial cream might lighten but I could not continue because it irritated my skin, didn't feel good on the skin.
The body lightening lotion is not bad but not great, the whitening lotion might be better, I did not get it according to your advice.

Here's a tip..
You can cut the soap into 2 pieces in order to make it last longer.

Anyway, does anybody here knows how long does the peeling last? Cuz, today is my second day using the product and school is starting in a day. That means tomorrow is the last holiday! And the rest is school!! NO!
I'm going 10th grade... how stressful..
I don't want anybody in class to notice my skin peeling. How emberassing would it be?
I don't experience the peeling yet anyway.

Here's a tip..
You can cut the soap into 2 pieces in order to make it last longer.

anyway, does anybody here knows how long does the peeling last? Cuz, today is my second day using the product and school is starting in a day. That means tomorrow is the last holiday! And the rest is school!!!! NO!!
I'm going 10th grade.... how stressful..
I don't want anybody in class to notice my skin peeling. How emberassing would it be?!
I don't experience the peeling yet anyway.

I still peel like crazy even though I've been using it for a while. Getting quite tired of it now especially when I wear foundation it flakes off.

Whew! That was the worst nightmare in 2007....try to imagine spending/investing big amount of money for a bad results! Well, tried the WOE thought it will help to get back to my normal skin at least eventhough not to whiten but i was so unlucky to get positive results as what others gt. I went to spa twice to get the salt glow just to scrub or make my skin not dry. I have a friend who recommneded this DS and at first i can't believe it's gonna work because its too cheap compared the other products i tried...Nothing to lose- try it and give a chance. And that's what i did! Skin become smooth and smoother- spots getting lighter and was really happy i was so sure getting good results...So give more time (patience)and buy more products and experiment becuase i don't really follow the directions (instead of using once a day i used it 2x a day; applied only in the morning but i applied day and night) Now- i'm not dark that used to be....In our family pictures ur not gonna say i'm just a "FRIEND" because i'm one of them,too...see from the skin color.

For the people doesn't know about what i'm talking about-
I'm a Filipina and my mother, sibling and cousins they have a fair complexion. I used to have very dark complexion because i got it from my black american father. I was always out of place.. But now wont that happen anymore- I have a glowing light brown complexion.


Don't think that made much sense - sorry. You said people called you polka dot lady when you used monobenzone so how did you manage to to even it all up? DS has given me 3 white patches even though I try to apply it evenly. It still hasn't evened up for me yet. :(

I still peel like crazy even though I've been using it for a while. Getting quite tired of it now especially when I wear foundation it flakes off.
How long did you mean "a while"? Also, how many times do you use the DS products?

I use the black soap on my face & papaya kojic soap on the whole body & leave it on for 10 minutes or less. I do that every day in the morning. Also, I apply the cream on my face & the body lotion on exposed area (arms, legs, neck etc) every other day. Today is my second day on treatment. Used the soaps twice & the cream & lotion once. No, peeling & stinging yet whatsoever. Though my skin is getting smoother & softer. :D

Since DS products are especially formulated for southeast asian skin, I thought it would work faster for me since I have southest asian skin (I'm not a filipino though) especially I was born fair. I heard many people from the philippines saw results within 3 - 14 days. Some see results after an overnight application. But the average time is 2 weeks. On the other hand, african americans often see results within months.
I bet in my case, I would see result in a week! :D

Anyway, I found information on how to use DS products & stuff here (I didn't buy my DS from the seller but their pages are sooo informative! Don't forget to read the WHOLE auction! That is where the most info are! The FAQ page is GREAT too!)..
Melasma Fading Set Kit Skin Bleach Whitening Bleaching - eBay (item 370010198204 end time Jan-06-08 16:57:11 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Melasma-Fading-Set-Kit-Skin-Bleach-Whitening-Bleaching_W0QQitemZ370010198204QQihZ024QQcategoryZ 40088QQcmdZViewItem)
eBay Store - A Shopaholic's Bargains: FAQ's Vicki Belo Bleaching Products (http://stores.ebay.com/A-Shopaholics-Bargains/FAQs-Vicki-Belo-Bleaching-Products.html)

Before & After pictures
eBay Store - A Shopaholic's Bargains: Testimonials Vicki Belo Customers (http://stores.ebay.com/A-Shopaholics-Bargains/Testimonials-Vicki-Belo-Customers.html)

I know broad spectrum sunscreen/sunblock is A MUST while on treatment & I have one question. I'm curious as what sunscreen/sunblock do you guys use? I use Neutrogena Ultra-Sheer Dry Touch Sunblock SPF 55.

Think it has been a month or two since I've been using DS.
I used to leave the soap on my face for 10 minutes also but then my skin went really sore and red so left on for a minute or two. I used to apply soap and crème twice a day but now lowered to once a day as my skin is now really dry and flaky.
Those links you gave, I've read them before, and pages like that put me off buying DS as they tend to exaggerate the product but on here no one really does that and they just share their experiences so that's why I bought it.
I use banana boat sunscreen.
I have Asian skin and I'm not really dark either. When I bought DS I thought I'd get results within a fortnight because I'm not really dark but still after a month or two usage, it has only slightly lightened my face and given me 3 white patches.
I hope it works out for you. I'm going to still carry on using it, if in a few weeks it hasn't improved, I'm going to stop and switch over to bio claire.

Hi Whitebutterfly, I am also wondering, how did you get the pigment back since starting using mono there is no going back?

Whitebutterfly, how did you use mono? If you had and still have some fade polka dots that means it is in your system and it won't go away from what I've heard, have you seen a doctor? What is you skin color compare to a celebrity before and after DS?

Well no doubt ur face will get sore- u leave it for 10minutes though it doesn't sting or feeling sensitive 5 minutes is enough already. Maybe that's why making it flaky and dry- its peeling. Just use some moisturizer or facial lotion to even out the skin.

I bought my very 1st bar of soap there...I was tempted with her lenghty details and feedbacks but was a mistake. So i change to another seller and stick to them.

For two weeks I left it on my skin for 10 minutes then stopped. I stop when it gets too bad and just apply olive oil for a week then my skin is OK. After that I start apply DS and begins peeling again.

Well no doubt ur face will get sore- u leave it for 10minutes though it doesn't sting or feeling sensitive 5 minutes is enough already. Maybe that's why making it flaky and dry- its peeling. Just use some moisturizer or facial lotion to even out the skin.

I bought my very 1st bar of soap there...I was tempted with her lenghty details and feedbacks but was a mistake. So i change to another seller and stick to them.
Why did you change to another seller? Does she sell fake DS products?

Who is the manufacturer of DS and where?

Its manufactured in the philippines

Diana stalder is a dermatologist I think

its manufactured in the philippines

diana stalder is a dermatologist i think
No, Diana Stalder is the name of the product. The dermatologists are Dr. Vicki Belo & Dr. Pie Calayan, if I'm not mistaken. :)

I noticed SouthGain offer two types of creams. One is Whitening Creme & the other one is Lightening Creme. What's the difference between those two creams? I checked on..
:: Diana Stalder - The Skin Care Expert :: (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/product.html)
And it only list Whitening Crème, Double Action Whitening Lotion, Body Whitening Lotion & Plain Whitening Crème. There is no Lightening Crème listed. I'm terribly confused.. :confused:

I think the plain whitening cream is the same as the lightening cream by describing the uses i compared to both website- maybe they changed the name...But i'm not very sure better ask southgain they know that...
You're right. I contacted SouthGain & they said DS recently changed some of the product names. Double Action Whitening Lotion became Lightening Lotion. And Plain Whitening Crème became Lightening Crème. :p

That was a very good deal...But sorry- when i checked those 15% items at the website the lotion, cream and soap are unlabeled but there is a DS at the background....She gt some labeled ones but not on sale....I will still get mine with the genuine labeled products....
The DS at the background is the box DS used to ship the products to her (the seller). Well, I will still consider to get mine from her (after the first set runs out) because I know she sells genuine DS products & they are a lot cheaper. She even showed me the invoice/receipt.

She says that DS laboratories have a new product coming out soon. They say it will lighten the skin in 7 days but they're not selling them yet because they are letting their models try it first before selling them. They say it'll be more expensive than the existing ones. I cannot wait to get my hand on the new one! She said she will try them herself before selling them.

I will let you guys know if they are out and distribute to their clients.. ;)

I am waiting for my DS to come in the mail. I ordered it a few days ago so hopefully it will be here soon!! I am half black and white with an uneven skin tone,which makes me have to wear make up and i HATE foundation so im praying it does the trick. I will keep everyone updated when i recieve it. :)

Ever since I started using DS products, everything I put on my face, stings! Including sunscreen, my usual moisturizer & even when I wash my face with my usual natural soap bar in the morning (I use my DS Black Bar at night). They do not sting before I started using DS products. The sting lasts about 3 minutes or less. Well, it's not that bad!

Here's my regimen.
Morning: My usual soap bar, sunscreen
Night: DS Black Bar, DS Lightening Crème (I alternate it with my usual moisturizer)

Well, since I use my DS Lightening Crème every other day, I use my usual moisturizer when I'm not using the Lightening Crème. And I use my DS Black Bar once every day, so I use my usual soap bar in the morning & DS Black Bar at night.

They started to sting on the 3rd day of using Diana Stalder products. Does it mean that it's working or did I do anything wrong? :confused: Or does that mean I have sensitive skin?

Ever since I started using DS products, everything I put on my face, stings! Including sunscreen, my usual moisturizer & even when I wash my face with my usual natural soap bar in the morning (I use my DS Black Bar at night). They do not sting before I started using DS products. The sting lasts about 3 minutes or less. Well, it's not that bad!

Here's my regimen.
Morning: My usual soap bar, sunscreen
Night: DS Black Bar, DS Lightening Creme (I alternate it with my usual moisturizer)

Well, since I use my DS Lightening Creme every other day, I use my usual moisturizer when I'm not using the Lightening Creme. And I use my DS Black Bar once every day, so I use my usual soap bar in the morning & DS Black Bar at night.

They started to sting on the 3rd day of using Diana Stalder products. Does it mean that it's working or did I do anything wrong?? :confused: Or does that mean I have sensitive skin?

You have not done anything wrong. It stings sometimes when I apply the crème but I just take it. Will be worth it in the long run (if it works for you that is). :)

I am waiting for my DS to come in the mail. I ordered it a few days ago so hopefully it will be here soon!! I am half black and white with an uneven skin tone,which makes me have to wear make up and i HATE foundation so im praying it does the trick. I will keep everyone updated when i recieve it. :)
Where did you order yours? :)


You have not done anything wrong. It stings sometimes when I apply the creme but I just take it. Will be worth it in the long run (if it works for you that is). :)
Thanks.

The DS black soap has started to sting so now I only leave it on my face for around a minute. It seems like everything I put on my face right after I wash my face (no matter what cleanser including my usual soap bar), stings! Not to mention, even my usual soap bar "stings" me. The weirdest thing is the soap used to not sting my face as it is a natural, gentle & soothing soap bar I loved. So, now I have to wait for at least 5 minutes after cleansing, before I can smear on moisturizer, DS Lightening Crème or sunscreen. That stings too but not as bad. After all this, I haven't experience any peeling yet. This is getting weirder & weirder. Does that happen to you? Is it normal?

Will it continue to sting every time I use soap & cream (forever)? Or will it eventually get better? :confused:

Does diana stalder products get rid of acne scars and acne?

I ordered the papaya,whitening cream & body lotion. Its original packaging so I hope its genuine. My skin s pretty light but my forehead and around my mouth is darker... plus I have some spots on my face from breaking out. I have dry skin already, but its not sensitive.

The DS black soap has started to sting so now I only leave it on my face for around a minute. It seems like everything I put on my face right after I wash my face (no matter what cleanser including my usual soap bar), stings! Not to mention, even my usual soap bar "stings" me. The weirdest thing is the soap used to not sting my face as it is a natural, gentle & soothing soap bar I loved. So, now I have to wait for at least 10 minutes after cleansing, before I can smear on moisturizer, DS Lightening Crème or sunscreen. That stings too but not as bad. After all this, I haven't experience any peeling yet but my twin sister did (we share the products). This is getting weirder & weirder. Does that happen to you? Is it normal?

Will it continue to sting every time I use soap & cream (forever)? Or will it eventually get better?

The DS black soap has started to sting so now I only leave it on my face for around a minute. It seems like everything I put on my face right after I wash my face (no matter what cleanser including my usual soap bar), stings! Not to mention, even my usual soap bar "stings" me. The weirdest thing is the soap used to not sting my face as it is a natural, gentle & soothing soap bar I loved. So, now I have to wait for at least 10 minutes after cleansing, before I can smear on moisturizer, DS Lightening Creme or sunscreen. That stings too but not as bad. After all this, I haven't experience any peeling yet but my twin sister did (we share the products). This is getting weirder & weirder. Does that happen to you? Is it normal?

Will it continue to sting every time I use soap & cream (forever)? Or will it eventually get better?




Is your skin sensitive? Have u used this before?

Is your skin sensitive? have u used this before?
I don't think I have sensitive skin. I contacted the seller & she said it could be that I have sensitive skin. I thought I have oily skin. My skin is always oily at school (my friends told me that too) & when I touch I can feel the "grease". It's obvious that I have oily skin.

Today is my 6th day on treatment. It started since the 4th day. I have no problem on the 1st, 2nd & 3rd days.
It's weird that I haven't experience any peeling but my skin has lightened slightly.

If you read the earlier thread you will see that most of us had the same stinging problem. I stinging was so bad that I was scared to continue to use it. I stopped for a while and started back eventually it stopped. Now I don't use it as often and leave it on as long. But it will stop. My skin too is (was) oily. I would touch my chin or forehead and my hand would shine as if it was wet. I had to use the oil sheets from Mary Kay and they would have so much oil on them. After the Ds products I don't even have oily skin now. That alone was good for me even if it hadn't of worked as a lightener. But It helped with both.

I don't think I have sensitive skin. I contacted the seller & she said it could be that I have sensitive skin. I thought I have oily skin. My skin is always oily at school (my friends told me that too) & when I touch I can feel the "grease". It's obvious that I have oily skin.

Today is my 6th day on treatment. It started since the 4th day. I have no problem on the 1st, 2nd & 3rd days.
It's weird that I haven't experience any peeling but my skin has lightened slightly.

If you read the earlier thread you will see that most of us had the same stinging problem. I stinging was so bad that I was scared to continue to use it. I stopped for a while and started back eventually it stopped. Now I dont use it as often and leave it on as long. But it will stop. My skin too is (was) oily. I would touch my chin or forehead and my hand would shine as if it was wet. I had to use the oil sheets from Mary Kay and they would have so much oil on them. After the Ds products I don't even have oily skin now. That alone was good for me even if it hadnt of worked as a lightener. But It helped with both.
Thanks, so sexy!
My skin has started to peel! Yay! Anyway, after the stinging goes away (if it ever will), I'm planning to use the cream every night & use the black soap twice a day. So, my question is can I apply the Lightening Creme & let it absorb & then smear on my usual moisturizer on top?? Is that okay? :confused:

Also, is it normal that my usual soap has started to "sting" me & it used to not sting my face as it is a natural, gentle & soothing soap bar I loved. Every creams/sunscreen including my usual moisturizer "stings" me within the first hour after cleansing!! After the hour, I smear on a little bit of moisturizer/sunscreen & it only stings a bit. Later on, I apply on more & it doesn't sting no more. It happens every time after I cleanse my face no matter what soap/cleanser I use!

The reason why I want to lighten my skin is because all the popular girls at my school are fair & they are considered as beautiful even though they have turtle lips, chinese eyes (they are not chinese), flat nose & all that. The complexion changes everything! I have a little cousin (9 years old) who is very fair & has chinese eyes, thin lips & flat nose yet many adults like her better than my other cousin (same aged) who is cuter in my opinion (beautiful eyes with naturally curled lashes) but darker. I pictured her with darker skin & she's not that pretty. We went to this occasion 4 days ago & she received many attentions! The teen girls wanted to play with her. A photographer even asked what her name is & took pictures of her a couple of times. I was born with fair skin but it got darker when I was 6 because we went to beaches many times. And by the time I reached 8, I got lighter back & got many compliments from my friends. LoL. They were just 8! But the skin redarken when I was 10 & never get lighter!
So, I hope Diana Stalder will lighten my skin to my original skin color. :p

DS black soap is not as strong as the papaya soap in peeling. Maybe you really have a sensitive skin. Of course you will feel a little bit sensitive everytime you put something on your face because ur skin is peeling (no more rough skin later-didn't mean u have a rough skin what i mean is the outer layer skin peeling) and u'll get to use it.

You can apply DS lightening cream first once absorbs you can apply your moisturizer then sunscreen. But if you are using the DS SBF collagen cream/sunscreen cream it's ok not to apply a moisturizer.
Thanks, whitebutterfly!

Yea, the papaya soap is stronger than the black soap in term of exfoliation. No, I don't have sensitive skin. I read on..
Facial Skin Analysis by Anne Thomas (http://www.theremustbeabetterway.co.uk/acatalog/Facial_Skin_Analysis.html)
About sensitive skin & no, because I don't have broken capillaries, I don't flush easily, my skin doesn't feel warm to touch & they don't flake (Well, until now). I have oily skin. Normal teenager skin.

I totally get what you mean about the rough skin. I can feel it. :)

BTW, an eBay seller who sells Diana Stalder products claims that Regine Velasquez used Diana Stalder to lighten her skin & WOE too claims that Regine Velasquez used their products to lighten her skin. Which one is true?
Forgot to mention, WOE site is unprofessionally CRAP-LOOKING!

The only time i becme dark (sunburn)again was when we went camping and watched the football game last summer but i continue using DS products and back to lightening again. ( actually i'm not afraid to get burn because i have this product ) If u have a sensitive skin u bertter use the black soap. DS have this suncreen with foundation called SBF Collagen cream and its really good for the face and neck. Skin Toner or Facial lotion goes with it. I think if u want to try the DS - in your case- the Melasma kit- this is complete set with black soap,SBF collagen, skin toner, facial lotion, Lightening cream - if u want you can replace that cream to whitening just ask the seller--ooppss well it depends where u will get it. Getting a kit is cheaper than buying it individually- as my opinion. How many shades- well try to remember all of us have different skin tone. Just try to get the genuine DS to make sure of good results. Good Luck.
whitebutterfly,
I am back from vacation and wanted to start DS product. As you suggested, I will use the Melasma kit. You said "Lightening cream - if u want you can replace that cream to whitening" My question is what is the difference between lightening cream and whitening cream? Thank you

DS black soap is not as strong as the papaya soap in peeling. Maybe you really have a sensitive skin. Of course you will feel a little bit sensitive everytime you put something on your face because ur skin is peeling (no more rough skin later-didn't mean u have a rough skin what i mean is the outer layer skin peeling) and u'll get to use it.

You can apply DS lightening cream first once absorbs you can apply your moisturizer then sunscreen. But if you are using the DS SBF collagen cream/sunscreen cream it's ok not to apply a moisturizer.
Thanks, whitebutterfly!

Yea, the papaya soap is stronger than the black soap in term of exfoliation. No, I don't have sensitive skin. I read on..
Facial Skin Analysis by Anne Thomas (http://www.theremustbeabetterway.co.uk/acatalog/Facial_Skin_Analysis.html)
About sensitive skin & no, because I don't have broken capillaries, I don't flush easily, my skin doesn't feel warm to touch & they don't flake (Well, until now). I have oily skin. Normal adolescent skin. I'm 14. :)

I totally get what you mean about the rough skin. I can feel it. :)

BTW, an eBay seller who sells Diana Stalder products claims that Regine Velasquez used Diana Stalder to lighten her skin & WOE too claims that Regine Velasquez used their products to lighten her skin. Which one is true?
Forgot to mention, WOE site is unprofessionally CRAP-LOOKING!

According to my friend who lives in the Philippines - Regine Velasquez used the DS products and went to their Dermaline clinic and she was also the DS/Dermaline endorser. And now she is one of Dr. Belo's endorser -high pay and more free treatments.
So that means WOE is LYING!

both of them used the same photos - i think it's up to us to think which one is lying....
But your friend has confirmed that Regine Velasquez used the DS products?

Woe mega blast cream do work. I use it and have gone from a wesley snipe color to an ll cool j color. I have pics.

woe mega blast cream do work. I use it and have gone from a wesley snipe color to an ll cool j color. I have pics.
Wow. You are the only one who is promoting that stupid WOE products! I bet you're the seller. If you're really using the WOE Mega Blast Cream, expect cancer then.

woe mega blast cream do work. I use it and have gone from a wesley snipe color to an ll cool j color. I have pics.

Can I see your photos ralpheal345, please?

I just ordered the Mega Blast Cream from WOE. We'll see what happens. It was kind of expensive but I really want to lighten. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my brown skin but I just to lighten my face & neck (discolorations) to match the rest of my light brown body. We'll see what happens. But I will still continue to use the Papaya Soap from Southgain, gonna order more now. I love this soap for my entire body. Unlike you guys, it doesn't sting or anything. It gives my skin a soft & silky feel.

OfficialAngeleyez how is the mega blast cream going? I have been waiting for your update about the product. Hope to hear from you soon.

OfficialAngeleyez how is the mega blast cream going? I have been waiting for your update about the product. Hope to hear from you soon.
The update of the product? Have you read the new thread. WOE is highly poisonous! It contains mercury, hydroquinone & many dangerous chemicals. It doesn't work! Plus, it will lead you to cancer, kidney problems, skin problems etc etc. You still have faith in them, do you? I'm telling you, Forget WOE! Instead, try something else. Don't try something you'll regret later on.

Good luck!

What's your email address fairskin and sugarblush the mega blast don't contain mercury. It contains hq and arbutin as the main ingredients. Ive been using it for over a year now and it have me 8 shades lighter with smooth skin. The reps said the other natural ingredients that it contain are in higher percentages which is the reason why it is very effective.

whats your email address fairskin and sugarblush the mega blast dont contain mercury. It contains hq and arbutin as the main ingredients. Ive been using it for over a year now and it have me 8 shades lighter with smooth skin. the reps said the other natural ingredients that it contain are in higher percentages which is the reason why it is very effective.

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The update of the product? Have you read the the new thread. WOE is highly poisonous! It contains mercury, hydroquinone & many dangerous chemicals. It doesn't work!! Plus, it will lead you to cancer, kidney problems, skin problems etc etc. You still have faith in them, do you? I'm telling ya, Forget WOE! Instead, try something else. Don't try something you'll regret later on.

Good luck!

Gosh you sound very angry!! Sugarblush can I just mention that I work in health, my position never mind (but will tell you if you insist) and surely I know what I am doing. And yes I saw what someone or you posted about how dangerous WOE is or can be. "You still have faith in them, do you?" I find that statement very judgemental. But that's OK! I just want to let you know that I am here not to fight with anyone but to get as much information as I possibly can about what's good for my skin. Living in Australia is not easy for me at all. There is not many black people here and hence it makes it very hard to find skin ligthening products, that's the main reason I am on these forums otherwise I wouldn't. I must admit so far I have found useful information on these forums and I appreciate the fact that everyone seem concerned about "one another"

Gosh you sound very angry!!!! Sugarblush can i just mention that i work in health, my position never mind (but will tell you if you insist) and surely I know what i am doing. And yes i saw what someone or you posted about how dangerous WOE is or can be. "You still have faith in them, do you?" i find that statement very judgemental. But thats ok! I just want to let you know that i am here not to fight with anyone but to get as much information as I possibly can about whats good for my skin. Living in Australia is not easy for me at all. There is not many black people here and hence it makes it very hard to find skin ligthening products, thats the main reason i am on these forums otherwise i wouldn't. I must admit so far i have found useful information on these forums and i appreciate the fact that everyone seem concerned about "one another"
Did I sound that angry? I didn't mean to. I'm sorry. If you know what you're doing, good luck then! :) Wish you every success.

whats your email address fairskin and sugarblush the mega blast dont contain mercury. It contains hq and arbutin as the main ingredients. Ive been using it for over a year now and it have me 8 shades lighter with smooth skin. the reps said the other natural ingredients that it contain are in higher percentages which is the reason why it is very effective.

Natural ingredients such as?? I'm sorry but I'd rather believe what that dermatologist said. It contains high percentages of mercury!!

It also contain like ascorbic acid, evening primerose,disodium,sodium citrate, glycolic acid,p-chloro-m-creso,glyceryl stearate, isopropyl myristate, water, octyl dimeethyl paba, parfum.they said that these ingredients are at higher percentages than other creams which is why it helps in lightening the skin much lighter than other creams

it also contain like ascorbic acid, evening primerose,disodium,sodium citrate, glycolic acid,p-chloro-m-creso,glyceryl stearate, isopropyl myristate, water, octyl dimeethyl paba, parfum.they said that these ingredients are at higher percentages than other creams which is why it helps in lightening the skin much lighter than other creams

Umm I doubt high percentages of parfum lightens skin. It is merely a scent!
You are obviously a seller for WOE.

i ordered the papaya,whitening cream & body lotion. Its original packaging so i hope its genuine. My skin s pretty light but my forhead and around my mouth is darker...plus i have some spots on my face from breaking out. I have dry skin already, but its not sensitive.

I have the same problem as you. But my skin is combination. Papaya soap was not suitable for my face so I am now using the black soap. :D

Umm I doubt high percentages of parfum lightens skin. It is merely a scent!!
You are obviously a seller for WOE.no I'm not a seller and I won't give anymore information about the product, you asked and I gave it to you and know you are being rude, at least I could have gotten a thank you dayummm. I was just saying what the reps told me. I use it it works. I went from dark wesley snipes to ll cool J color so I know it works for me, not saying it works for everyone, but it does work for my skin. Keep in mind I did say wesley snipes color. fairskin you saw my pics. I was real dark plus Im a man so..

Umm I doubt high percentages of parfum lightens skin. It is merely a scent!!
You are obviously a seller for WOE.
I agree. Check his posts & all of them are about WOE telling how great they are. Blah, blah, blah. And I recognize his writing style. It's Yolonda's writing style from the WOE forum.
This thread is supposed to be about Diana Stalder products not WOE products.

Zameera :)

I agree. Check his posts & all of them are about WOE telling how great they are. Blah, blah, blah. And I recognize his writing style. It's Yolonda's writing style from the WOE forum.
This thread is supposed to be about Diana Stalder products not WOE products.

Zameera :)

Yes you're right there. :)
How's DS working for you then? My dark areas are now slowly lightening up.

Fairskin,

I ordered the Mega Blast, received it and now am all broke out from it! I don't recommend this stuff. After all these people won't even reveal their identity. They are false. But what they don't realize is that they are messing with the wrong one. Their product has harmed my skin and I will get to the bottom of this even if it takes every cent I got! The principle is what matters!! The forum is a scheme. Everybody is there is all one person. Critique their responses, the writing is the same. The verbiage is the same! It is one person mostly replying. I am a very intelligent, highly educated professional and you can't fool me with that BS. WOE is not even a real company anyway! I'm requesting a refund today of everything I've bought there! If they know what's best for them they better give it to me!!

So there you go Shel... oh I meant Chinedra!! It's on B$tch!


OfficialAngeleyez how is the mega blast cream going? I have been waiting for your update about the product. Hope to hear from you soon.

Yes they are sooooooooooo scammy ansd I can't believe that people spent so much money on their mercury based creams it's a shame and they really need to investigate them that's not right.

WOE has taken down those fake photos they had up too! They had us thinking you could get results from their products but in fact the pictures were from this site: index.htm and the hair one was the lady pictured as model I on this site: MODELS GALLERY-INDIAN LONG HAIR

They've snatched the forum down, but it ain't over!! They can change what they want because I already printed the entire site to show what it was when I bought my product and that is false advertising and it was done to deceive & mislead consumers. The Texas Attorney General's office has been informed. You can file a complaint too online at https://www.oag.state.tx.us/forms/cpd/form.php

They have given me some steps to follow, first one being ask for a refund and advise them it is granted! That will be today!

Now if you look on their before and after page on the bottom that asian lady pic has been altered she has the same shirt on the same pose and if you look at her underarm area it is exactly the same and the only diffrence in that pic is that the fluff the hair up some.

Anybody that orders from this company deserve to have their skin jacked up. The proof is in the pudding.

Yes you're right there. :)
Hows DS working for you then? My dark areas are now slowly lightening up.
They're working great. Though I always forgot to use the papaya soap on the body! Hah! I use the cream everyday now. After using the black soap on the face every night, my face feel soooooo tight & dry. I can't even yawn. LoL. I have to wait like 5 minutes before applying the whitening cream to avoid soreness. And then a few minutes more before applying my usual moisturizer. I've been using the cream under my eye for a while now & have had no problem.

Does anybody know if my face is going to be tight after every wash using the black soap (forever)? Or I'm at the stage & it will get better? Because I can't stand with tight face. It feels like clay mask! And after a while, my face looks like there's a coat of clear plastic! :eek: Has anybody notice that?
Answer me, anybody. :)

I need to order this DS today because my complexion is so uneven every where ranging from milk chocolate to cinemon to caremel! I hate it. My face is dark around the chin and mouth area and I have a few spots from achne so hopefully this will work because I have tried a lot of things and nothing has ever worked to lighten my chin area. The rest of my body is fairly light but my butt, knees and elbows are dark, I don't know why.

Where is the best place I get this DS? eBay?

They're working great. Though I always forgot to use the papaya soap on the body! Hah! I use the cream everyday now. After using the black soap on the face every night, my face feel soooooo tight & dry. I can't even yawn. LoL. I have to wait like 5 minutes before applying the whitening cream to avoid soreness. And then a few minutes more before applying my usual moisturizer. I've been using the cream under my eye for a while now & have had no problem.

Does anybody know if my face is going to be tight after every wash using the black soap (forever)? Or I'm at the stage & it will get better?? Because I can't stand with tight face. It feels like clay mask! And after a while, my face looks like there's a coat of clear plastic! :eek: Has anybody notice that?
Answer me, anybody. :)

My face felt like plastic when I first started using DS. I ignored it till my skin got really sore and got some kind of dark patches. So I gave my skin a break and just used olive oil till my skin healed. After that my skin wasn't plastic-y and continued using DS. My skin does however feel very dry, a little sore and peeling a little.

I need to order this DS today because my complexion is so uneven every where ranging from milk chocolate to cinemon to caremel! i hate it. My face is dark around the chin and mouth area and i have a few spots from achne so hopefully this will work because i have tried alot of things and nothing has ever worked to lighten my chin area. The rest of my body is fairly light but my butt, knees and elbows are dark, i dont know why.

Where is the best place i get this DS? ebay?

I got mine from eBay. Just make sure when you search for it, that they are labeled. The unlabeled ones aren't genuine DS products.

I got mine from ebay. Just make sure when you search for it, that they are labeled. The unlabeled ones aren't genuine DS products.


Thanks punkchic,

Have you seen any lightening at all yet?

Thanks punkchic,

Have you seen any lightening at all yet?

It is slowly lightening up my skin. I have nearly finished my second kit. I found that the black soap is more suited for the face and the papaya soap for the body.

My face felt like plastic when I first started using DS. I ignored it till my skin got really sore and got some kind of dark patches. So I gave my skin a break and just used olive oil till my skin healed. After that my skin wasn't plastic-y and continued using DS. My skin does however feel very dry, a little sore and peeling a little.
So it seems like my face is going to be dry forever. My face feel a little tight (I can yawn though) but it looks oily (I have oily skin).

whitebutterfly, is my face going to be tight after every wash using the black soap (forever)? Or I'm at the stage & it will get better?? Because I can't stand with tight face. It feels like clay mask! And after a while, my face looks like there's a coat of clear plastic! Has anybody notice that?
Answer me, please.


The unlabeled ones aren't genuine DS products.
I have to disagree with that. Not all unlabeled DS products are not genuine. I bought the unlabeled ones & they're genuine. She also showed me proof photo that they're genuine. She's also going to show me a copy of the receipt. I bought my set from..
eBay Store - Celebrity Skin Care: Health Beauty (http://stores.ebay.com/Celebrity-Skin-Care)

They're cheaper than the labeled ones. I trust her. She give discount for comeback customers. She have been selling the unlabeled DS products for a long long time. She told me that the Stalder Laboratories is having to release a new DS cream that is said to lighten the skin in 7 days. She will try it first for selling it to their customers. I can't wait to get my hands on it!

I just started my DS yesterday... It stings a little right now being my second day.. but I can handle it..

I just started my DS yesterday...It stings a little right now being my second day..but i can handle it..
Mine stings on the 4th day. :) And now is my 8th day using it, still stings like hell but got better. I can handle it. I even leave it on for 4 minutes every time I use the soap.
I use the soap & cream everyday.

But right now, I'm concerned if my skin is going to be sensitive & dry forever! :(
I want my skin to get normal back!

Good luck, Doll_Face!

Why just show the photo? Why not included in the soap?

I didn't say she's not selling the genuine DS. She's selling mixed products (labeled and unlabeled)- She can show all the receipts u want with the labeled one - but why u get the unlabeld? If its unlabeled i can't really tell u whats goin on ur skin because we have different product.

Before new years i checked the web u said having 15% off those are the unlabeled and the labeled products no discount.

I'm not against with ur seller...u can get anywhere u want.
Sorry. I don't understand what you said.
"Why not included in the soap?"

Other than that, yes the soaps are in the original packaging & yes my skin is peeling.
Here's the proof photo..

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5459/celebrityboxii7.jpg

Sorry to say we have different product. Those are generic . I think u better tell her u want ur product with the individual original packaging. That box is original from the manufacturer and i don't have any doubt but the product inside tsk tsk tsk. If u can check it at the DS website..:: Diana Stalder - The Skin Care Expert :: (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/product.html) u'l see the genuine products look like- they are the manufacturer. I thinkl they will not sell unlabeled products.
Yea, I know how the labeled ones looks like. The seller bought directly from the Stalder Laboratories (they're are still Stalder's). That's why they're unlabeled. What I was trying to say is that the contents (creams & lotion) are the same exact thing and are manufactured & produced by the same factory as the labeled ones. That means you'll get the same results as it is just the container that's different. Only the containers are different because she wants to get it cheaper. Designer containers adds up prices.

Mine stings on the 4th day. :) And now is my 8th day using it, still stings like hell but got better. I can handle it. I even leave it on for 4 minutes everytime I use the soap.
I use the soap & cream everyday.

But right now, I'm concerned if my skin is going to be sensitive & dry forever! :(
I want my skin to get normal back!

Good luck, Doll_Face!



Thank you Same goes for you!
I ordered my kit from eBay from HBA closeouts... It smells better than I thought it would. I started "stinging" this morning but I'm wondering, how long will the whole process take (dry and peel off) until I see results?

OK...no comment.
Keep in mind, designer containers add up prices. :)

I'm wanting to purchase Diana Stalder Skin bleach and Kojic Soap. Has any one tryed them and if so what are your results?

That's the one I ordered. I'll let you know how it works:)

Thank you Same goes for you!!
I ordered my kit from ebay from HBA closeouts...It smells better than i thought it would. I started "stinging" this morning but im wondering, how long will the whole process take (dry and peel off) until I see results??
I have the same question also. Is the tightness going to be forever every time I use the soap?

I have the same question also. Is the tightness going to be forever everytime I use the soap?


On the FAQ's, they say 1-2 weeks to see results. How long have you been using? You're using the Black soap right?

Wait, my mistake... 2-3 weeks until FULL results I just read somewhere else...

On the FAQ's, they say 1-2 weeks to see results. How long have you been using? Youre using the Black soap right??
I've been using it for about a week. :) Yup, I'm using the black soap.

Sorry to say we have different product. Those are generic . I think u better tell her u want ur product with the individual original packaging. That box is original from the manufacturer and i don't have any doubt but the product inside tsk tsk tsk. If u can check it at the DS website..:: Diana Stalder - The Skin Care Expert :: (http://www.staldergroup.com/diana/product.html) u'l see the genuine products look like- they are the manufacturer. I thinkl they will not sell unlabeled products.
They aren't knockoffs. They are real DS products. They are authentic. I really recommend buying DS products from her (if you want to save money) because her prices are so much lower but of course you can buy from anyone you like! She regularly has discounts on her eBay store (more bucks save in pocket!). Right now, she is offering 10% discount on some of DS products from her store! Check it out!
eBay Store - Celebrity Skin Care: Health Beauty (http://stores.ebay.com/Celebrity-Skin-Care)

Anyway, she's an authorized distributor of Diana Stalder here in California. Actually, she knows more about Diana Stalder than any other sellers. She knows the owner of the Stalder. From who's the owner's daughter to where she (the owner of Stalder) came from in the Philippines. The real owner of Stalder is her (the seller) aunt's close friend and a very private person. She will send me a scan of her identification (authorized ID) and also the receipt. I will show it to you guys when I receive it from her.

Please note that I'm not advertising her store or anything negative you might think. I just want to prove to you guys that I bought genuine DS products & I want to help you guys to save money too! :D

Zameera

I just started my DS yesterday...It stings a little right now being my second day..but i can handle it..

I have the same problem, stinging/burning on my face. I bought DS products and started using it 3 days ago. My face started stinging/burning on the same day I started using it. It is still stinging/burning especially on the face not so much on the body and I am black. Is this a good sign that it is going to work? Fingers crossed.

Diana Stalder BODY BLEACHING KIT skin whitening, did not come with instructions of how to use it. Does anyone have an idea of how to use this kit? I have no problems using the soap just the lotions. :confused:

Hi Just ordered mine from southgain. So I will let you know how it works for me. I have milk chocolate complextion.

Hi Just ordered mine from southgain. So i will let you know how it works for me. i have milk chocolate complextion.

I bought mine from Southgain too. I have already started to peel. Whitebutterfly or somebody here mentioned that the kit comes with instructions, mine did not. I bought a packet of four (papaya soap) and the bleaching kit. I will keep you posted.

Wish me luck!

I bought mine from Southgain too. I have already started to peel. Whitebutterfly or somebody here mentioned that the kit comes with instructions, mine did not. I bought a packet of four (papaya soap) and the bleaching kit. I will keep you posted.

Wish me luck!

Thanks fairskin, good luck!

Here's a copy of the instruction. But I didn't get it from SouthGain. I bought mine from CelebritySkinCare. They're so much cheaper.


KOJIC SOAP AND LOTION
DIRECTIONS:
1. Use kojic soap as your daily bath soap. Use on the body first before using on face. You can use twice a day & lather it well at least 2 -3 minutes & rinse well.
2. If you have very sensitive skin, please use only 3x a week. REMINDER PLEASE APPLY SUNBLOCK FOR SUN PROTECTION THANKS.

SAVING FOR THE SOAP & LOTION
1. You can cut the soap into 2 pieces in order to make it last longer. You can also use loofah or cloth with the soap to make it last longer.
2. You can apply whitening lotion to exposed areas such as your neck, arms and legs. That's how you save the lotion.
If you are using kojic soap on your face, please do not leave it for over a minute becasue it might be too strong for your face. You can use it 3x a week on your face if you have very sensitive skin.
Note: Avoid exposure to sun while on treatment. If irritation occurs discontinue the use of products.

Zameera

I always do combined shipping to save some bucks- when i compared both sellers prices and shipping with the same products ( what i mean her labeled and his labeled items ) with single item or even combined shipping it shows the difference who's cheaper but it's too minimal...

SugarBlush - im not against with your seller ok.
Of course, you're not! :)
But you keep saying we have different products, that's generic & all that. So, I just want to prove to you that I bought genuine DS products. That's all. NO hard feelings.

Anyway, try to compare her unlabeled & his labeled items. Her unlabeled are much cheaper because if you buy the labeled ones it will cost a lot of money because you are only paying for the nice containers and its not worth it. :) What's the point of just paying for the containers. You'll going to throw it later on anyway. You will still obtain same outcome as you would with the labeled DS. If you don't believe she's selling genuine DS products (referring to her unlabeled ones), buy her unlabeled cream & SouthGain labeled cream. Feel it, smell it, test it. And lastly, compare them. They're the same thing!

SugarBlush

Is this stuff natural?

Is this stuff natural?
Absolutely. :)

The reason why I asked because a friend of mine uses it and it turned her red and the soap broke her out badly. I don't think everything works for everyone.

Here's a copy of the instruction. But I didn't get it from SouthGain. I bought mine from CelebritySkinCare. They're so much cheaper.



Zameera

I must say I like the way CelebritySkinCare give instructions on how to use their products, dos and donts. Wish other sellers could do the same.

the reason why I asked because a friend of mine uses it and it turned her red and the soap broke her out badly. I dont think everything works for everyone.
Maybe your friend bought fake Diana Stalder products. Who knows. But you're absolutely right. There is NO product works on everyone. But it seems like the genuine Diana Stalder products work for most of us.

Do not buy from Arizona4Pinoys! I believe they sell fake Diana Stalder products. I know a person who got bad side effect from using it. She's been using it for 2 months & still have not achieve the skin tone she wants. She now have dry, flaky skin which stings every time he wear clothes. That's bad!
Stores that you can trust are..

eBay Store - SouthGain: Diana Stalder, skin, baseball cards (http://stores.ebay.com/SouthGain-Enterprises/)
eBay Store - Celebrity Skin Care: Health Beauty (http://stores.ebay.com/Celebrity-Skin-Care)

I can guarantee both of them sells genuine Diana Stalder products. If you want to save some money, I recommend buying the unlabeled ones from Celebrity Skin Care. She's offering 10% discount right now.

Zameera

It was the one from southgain, it had the label and all we were up to date on the real from the fake. She tried it before me. I guess everything don't work for everyone.

She was pissed because it had the label and she thought it would work, but it broke her out and turned her red, maybe it was too strong for her skin.

I agree not everything work for everyone. I used it and it didn't irritate me or anything nor turn me red because I was too black when I used it lol but in the same token, it didn't really lighten my skin either. It was the one from southgain. I got it on eBay. Used it for 4 months and nothing happened, so really I got nothing out of nothing with it, Ive tried a lot of different creams so I know what works and what don't

she was pissed because it had the label and she thought it would work, but it broke her out and turned her red, maybe it was too strong for her skin.
Yea, that could be the reason. I could also be that she was using it frequently?

I agree not everything work for everyone. I used it and it didnt irritate me or anything nor turn me red because I was too black when I used it lol but in the same token, it didnt really lighten my skin either. It was the one from southgain. I got it on ebay. Used it for 4 months and nothing happend, so really I got nothing out of nothing with it, Ive tried alot of different creams so I know what works and what dont
Exactly not everything work for everyone. I think it depends on your skin color.

exactly not everything work for everyone. I think it depends on your skin color.
What's her skin color?

She's like caramel colored naturally

the reason why I asked because a friend of mine uses it and it turned her red and the soap broke her out badly. I dont think everything works for everyone.

There could be a number of reasons her skin turned red and broke out.
What happened with me was I used the papaya soap for my face and body. It DID make me break out and my skin developed a rash kind of thing on my chin area. So I stopped using it and applied olive oil on my skin till it healed. Then I started using the black soap which is so much better than the papaya.

The black soap didn't sting me that bad today. It wasn't that bad like it used to be. This morning, I used the soap. I left it on for like 2 minutes & I was surprised I didn't feel any stinging so I left it on for another 3 minutes. Total 5 minutes! Then, I decided to use the black soap & the cream 2x a day! Also, my face didn't look like there's a coat of clear shiny paint no more!

The ds products that aren't labeled on eBay, is that the way they send them
SKIN BLEACHING/WHITENING/LIGHT SET 6 V BELO/D STALDER - eBay (item 320202649741 end time Jan-11-08 20:25:33 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/SKIN-BLEACHING-WHITENING-LIGHT-SET-6-V-BELO-D-STALDER_W0QQitemZ320202649741QQihZ011QQcategoryZ40 088QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I'd never buy unlabeled DS (personal preference). But then if you look at that woman's feedback on eBay, you'd see she has 99.9% positive feedback. Surely if it was harmful she'd have had lots of negative feedback by now..

She may have positive feedback, but is it legal to sell creams without a label. I just thought it looked weird.

Hi Whitewoman08,

I'm curious to know if you know someone by the name of "Chinedra Marushel Williams"?

Just curious...



she may have positive feedback, but is it legal to sell creams without a label. I just thought it looked wierd.

Hi Whitewoman08,

I'm curious to know if you know someone by the name of "Chinedra Marushel Williams"?

Just curious...

Yeah I bet she does know this person. To see her all she has to do is look in the mirror...

LOL... don't make me fall out of my chair!! LOLLLLLLL


Yeah I bet she does know this person. To see her all she has to do is look in the mirror...