I used to be such a good christian... I prayed all the time, whenever I wasn't doing anything. I talked to God about everything that went on in my life. I avoided any situations where I would be tempted to sin. Then, everything just... stopped. I stopped caring if God listened to me... I stopped trying to not sin... and now I just question everything about religion period. It all just seems like something made up a long time ago by people who were terrified of death, so they made up Heaven and Hell.

Are these signs of questioning the Lord, or becoming agnostic? Or atheist?

Even if you are becoming agnostic or atheist (which is OK of course) the statement "I stopped trying to not sin" is a problem here. Even agnostics/atheists want to be good people and play well with others.

Are these signs of questioning the Lord, or becoming agnostic? Or atheist?

That is one humorous sentence right there. As though you are showing symptoms of some disorder. Obviously, you are questioning your belief, which is a good thing. You should question religion, but that does not necessarily mean you are going to move away from religion. It just means you are thinking for yourself and interpreting what you hear and read instead of being herded. Good for you.

i used to be such a good christian...i prayed all the time, whenever i wasn't doing anything. i talked to God about everything that went on in my life. I avoided any situations where I would be tempted to sin. Then, everything just...stopped. I stopped caring if God listened to me...I stopped trying to not sin.... and now I just question everything about religion period. It all just seems like something made up a long time ago by people who were terrified of death, so they made up Heaven and Hell.

Are these signs of questioning the Lord, or becoming agnostic? Or atheist?
To give you another perspective... your faith in the Lord is being tested and Satan could be the one behind all of this, remember to paraphase a Bible verse " we are not fighting a battle against what is seen but what is unseen, that angels and demons are waging wars over people" Be encouraged and remember what God did for you during those times when your faith was strong.

What event or situation happened that started your issue?

It is hard being a follower of Christ but remember He doesn't expect you to be perfect. We have all gone through times of struggle and hardship and have all questioned our faith. I hope some of this helps you. God bless

I wish I knew how to draw on here...

Our spiritual journey through life is not a steady, unwavering, increasing line, with "no faith" on the bottom and "one with God" on the top. Rather, it looks more like those line graphs they use to show economic stuff like the Dow-Jones. It's full of peaks and valleys, high points and low points.

I think that if we are all absolutely honest with ourselves, we will find that we go through periods of questioning our faith, rebelling against it, and even periods of complete apathy about it.

Faith is a journey, not a destination. As Mountain Man said, we will be tested and tempted by our foe. We may also feel sometimes that God is testing us or maybe has caused hardships to fall upon us. In those times, I remember that a fine sword is not made by lovingly caressing a block of iron, or holding the iron gently and reassuring that--one day--it will be a sword.

No, a sword is made by heating the iron until it's red hot, then taking it out of the fire and hammering it brutally with a heavy mallet. It gets flipped over and hammered on the other side. Then it's thrust back into the fire, and the process continues. Finally, when the shape is right, the work isn't done yet. To get its edge, it must be scraped repeatedly over stone, over and over and over again. When it's all said and done, a fine sword is crafted, but not without trial and effort.

I think that God may use a similar process to craft us into what He sees for us, and sometimes that crafting isn't pleasant for us. However, the rewards are great. Not only for us, but for those whom God puts us in contact with for reasons that may be known to Him alone, but which serve His purpose nonetheless.

Walk your road, but know that you don't have to walk it alone. Find others who have walked the road and speak with them. Take assurance in the fact that you are possibly growing into your faith, rather than losing it.

Continue to seek God and His will for you, and He will be faithful to reveal it.

DK

I am an atheist and recognised exactly what you are saying. I have been there before. I found my path and I'm sure you will find yours in time. Research, research, research is the best advice I can give you. One of the things I did was to observe sites that host live debates on the subject. I learned a lot from observing priests of all religions debate against well educated physicists and other people who were passionate about finding the truth. Be careful though as it can become a vacuum and addictive.
One fact is that to believe the standard religions one needs to believe in or have faith. And in my searches I have found faith is believing in something as a fact when there is no scientific logical reason to do so. I have been through a lot of grief over my beliefs through the years and would always recommend that people be careful and sceptical about what they see and read on these sites.

Please correct me if I have misintrepretated something but I have to respond to a common "theme" on this site and that is the fact that in order for you to be a Christian you have to become a mindless follower of a "religion" that has no value. That is just not true! Religion and a true relationship with Christ are not one in the same. A religion does not save your soul but a right relationship with our creator and Lord will!

You will question things regarding your faith. That is a fact that will occur when we walk on this earth. The choice we make when questioning our faith is do we turn to the world for answers or to God. Look at the life of David and see the distinct difference between leaning on you own understanding and leaning on God.

Quote;JohnSnownw agrees: Yup, this is very true. Though I see you still answered the question after me, again ;)
Yes John, (Brotherhood of the wolf) but at least I was brave enough to admit my beliefs. I'm always afraid the word atheism is going to trigger massive bombardment disagreements. LOL, I love talking religion but wish I could remove the judgement option. :-)

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Please correct me if I have misintrepretated something but I have to respond to a common "theme" on this site and that is the fact that in order for you to be a Christian you have to become a mindless follower of a "religion" that has no value.
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Where did it say that?

Please correct me if I have misintrepretated something but I have to respond to a common "theme" on this site and that is the fact that in order for you to be a Christian you have to become a mindless follower of a "religion" that has no value. No one said that anyone following your religion was "mindless", nor did anyone say it has no value. What you call a "theme" on this site is opinion differing from yours. If we go by a popularity contest there is a much larger percentage of pro-christian posts on this site than posts which offer a differing opinion - therefore the "theme" of this site is pro-christian.

That is one humorous sentence right there. As though you are showing symptoms of some disorder. Obviously, you are questioning your belief, which is a good thing. You should question religion, but that does not necessarily mean you are going to move away from religion. It just means you are thinking for yourself and interpreting what you hear and read instead of being herded. Good for you.


That is the common theme I am referring to, not just with you but with many different people.

What's wrong with questioning religion? Just as you should question your government or your bank charges.

That is the common theme I am referring to, not just with you but with many different people.

I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I am not going to elaborate on that, as I believe it's unnecessary.

The words I should have highlighted in JohnSnownw's post was "instead of being herded" it implies a certain mindless wandering... my intention wasn't to get away from the poster's original question but that is why I responded.

And yes NeedKarma there is nothing wrong with questioning religious beliefs. And no I am not challenging a "theme" because it differs from my opinion.

Quote;JohnSnownw agrees: Yup, this is very true. Though I see you still answered the question after me, again ;)
Yes John, (Brotherhood of the wolf) but at least I was brave enough to admit my beliefs. I'm always afraid the word atheism is going to trigger massive bombardment disagreements. LOL, I love talking religion but wish I could remove the judgement option. :-)

Very true, it is difficult for us non-believers to mention our take. I was going to follow up with something more profound here, but I deleted it fearing what I said would be misconstrued. So, I suppose, case-in-point Greg :)

"Doubt is the ants in the pants of faith." - Frederick Buechner

Back on the subject... Does anyone feel that it is unfair to bring a specific (or any)religion to a child who has no ability to define their own logical opinion? I don't believe I know anyone who wasn't raised believing in god.
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I used to be such a good christian...i prayed all the time, whenever i wasn't doing anything. i talked to God about everything that went on in my life. I avoided any situations where I would be tempted to sin. Then, everything just...stopped. I stopped caring if God listened to me...I stopped trying to not sin

Back on the subject..... Does anyone feel that it is unfair to bring a specific (or any)religion to a child who has no ability to define their own logical opinion? I don't believe I know anyone who wasn't raised believing in god.
Quote:: Mahal_kitta9---

I used to be such a good christian...i prayed all the time, whenever i wasn't doing anything. i talked to God about everything that went on in my life. I avoided any situations where I would be tempted to sin. Then, everything just...stopped. I stopped caring if God listened to me...I stopped trying to not sin



I don't think it is unfair to create a foundation of beliefs in a young person but ultimately a relationship with God is quite personal and must be found by that individual.

Back on the subject..... Does anyone feel that it is unfair to bring a specific (or any)religion to a child who has no ability to define their own logical opinion? I don't believe I know anyone who wasn't raised believing in god.


As I believe I am following the truth, I would want my child to grow up learning the truth...

When I was growing up and questions about other religions arose, our minister (who happened to be my father) answered them, sometimes incorrectly unfortunately. I had wished then, and now realize it was a valid wish, that representatives of other religions could have been brought in to our church as guest speakers and Bible class guests.

If I were raising children again, I would definitely present what I believe but also take my child to the library to do a literature review and find out what other religions teach, and then take my child to other churches, mosques, synagogues, etc. and talk with those of other faiths.

I have a little girl who is inevitably involved in a separation, she is pushed into Christianity by my X and her grandma. She is 2 and a half, and at a point that I have to allow this because I love her and I know what damage could happen by introducing question so early on. We had an agreement that we would hold off of the whole belief "Religion" thing until a better time where she would be more suited to understand. That was not honoured at all, so now I'm venting. LOL

I have a little girl who is inevitably involved in a separation, she is pushed into Christianity by my X and her grandma. She is 2 and a half, and at a point that I have to allow this because I love her and I know what damage could happen by introducing question so early on. We had an agreement that we would hold off of the whole belief "Religion" thing until a better time where she would be more suited to understand. That was not honoured at all, so now I'm venting. LOL


In your case I think you are correct not to push any beliefs onto her, she is very young and needs to deal with other things.

As I believe I am following the truth, I would want my child to grow up learning the truth...

I should have used the word "I know" instead of I believe.

And Greg,

About being in the middle of a separation,I have read of some children (teens and older) who seem to find comfort in religion during divorce,separation etc.

Not trying to be funny here at all, but I agree with that, some nonbelievers believe on their deathbeds. During the most dreadful times during the Holocaust Jewish people with children stood there with their children telling them that " It's OK! God is watching over us". Some seniors go to church only because it is close to the end for them and they need to believe in a greater power. And for bereavement, religion alone has stopped "I'm sure" hundreds of thousands {millions?}of suicides.
Because of my (Very strong) beliefs I feel it is important for me to always be honest with my daughter.
"Kind Quote" As I KNOW I am following the truth, I would want my child to grow up learning the truth..." FIRMBELIEVER

Not trying to be funny here at all, but I agree with that, some nonbelievers believe on their deathbeds, During the most dreadful times during the Holocaust Jewish people with children stood there with their children telling them that " It's OK! God is watching over us". Some seniors go to church only because it is close to the end for them and they need to believe in a greater power. And for bereavement religion alone has stopped "I'm sure" hundreds of thousands {millions?}of suicides.
Because of my (Very strong) beliefs I feel it is important for me to always be honest with my daughter.
"Kind Quote" As I believe I am following the truth, I would want my child to grow up learning the truth..." FIRMBELIEVER
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Sounds like you are growing up and questioning what you were told when you were a youngster.

This is the beginning of you becoming a full grown adult, a person of integrity; there is a lot of work ahead of you---learning about the world and religions and different worldviews. There is a danger that if you stagnate as you are you will just become "rebellious" without any knowledge of why. Your goal is to become a person with character/integrity with useful knowledge!

Good luck in your journey! :)

When I was young I was pretty religious then started seeing what was taught in Sunday School was NOT was I was seeing in real life. How could I believe in a 'Just God' if what I was seeing was a lot of injustice? How could so many people profess to be big believers when what they were doing in life belied what they were saying? How come I'm doing all the "Right Things" but I keep getting slapped upside the head for following that path?
So I essentially quit. Wow! The 80's were a lot of fun (and a lot of pain as well.)
But then I found that being off the Path was far more painful than being on the Path and got back on it, but with a lot more understanding and foregiveness towards myself and others. Maybe that what it was all about, at least for me it was and is.

One thing I found for sure - I might have given up on God but He sure didn't give up on me! Too many miracles, minor and major have I had to reinforce my faith.

Oh, and my confirmed atheist friend, Dave, who did his research as well, found time to find God and become a big part of a church group when he found out he had terminal cancer. I guess it goes to show that in the end, we do get back to the basics.

I wish you well in your search for deeper meaning.

i used to be such a good christian...i prayed all the time, whenever i wasn't doing anything. i talked to God about everything that went on in my life. I avoided any situations where I would be tempted to sin. Then, everything just...stopped. I stopped caring if God listened to me...I stopped trying to not sin.... and now I just question everything about religion period. It all just seems like something made up a long time ago by people who were terrified of death, so they made up Heaven and Hell.

Are these signs of questioning the Lord, or becoming agnostic? Or atheist?


If you believe, there is nothing you can do to make God love you any more or any less.

Romans 8:
37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ephesians 2:
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.



As to questioning, go ahead, it does not condemn you.
Lee Strobel has a "Case for... " series.
Scientific evidence, for me points to a Creator...




Grace and Peace

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I think when a person is cheated on... sometimes they realize it well after the fact. This is only a reference and not saying anyone was actually cheated on or was lied to. The same thing has happened to me in regards to religion, I was raised to believe something by others. I started to think on my own and came to the same idea on my own that MahlKita_9 had come to question. QUOTE; "It all just seems like something made up a long time ago by people who were terrified of death, so they made up Heaven and Hell." I'm certainly not going to get into some random matrix take the blue pill or red scenario. But I researched it on my own, and came to my conclusions. I want to add as I am a hair defensive on the subject but loath being biased, that if anyone starts to doubt, and only look up atheist web sites you would be subjected to an amazing amount of one sided knowledge (just as if you were questionable about people of different races and only researched on the KKK website) I like to imagine anyone in that scenario making sure that they really see what is fully out there. I honestly miss the search because Its so much like space " You only see new things if you continue to look"... QT; Men have had the vanity to pretend that the whole creation was made for them, while in reality the whole creation does not suspect their existence.
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If you believe, there is nothing you can do to make God love you any more or any less.

Romans 8:
37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[m] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ephesians 2:
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.



As to questioning, go ahead, it does not condemn you.
Lee Strobel has a "Case for... " series.
Scientific evidence, for me points to a Creator....




Grace and Peace
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What does that prove exactly? This person is questioning their faith, and the existence of a God. Not "if god loves them."

Oops... I accidentally double posted. I used the edit button and redid it.

I think when a person is cheated on.... sometimes they realize it well after the fact. This is only a reference and not saying anyone was actually cheated on or was lied to. The same thing has happened to me in regards to religion, I was raised to believe something by others. I started to think on my own and came to the same idea on my own that MahlKita_9 had come to question. QUOTE; "It all just seems like something made up a long time ago by people who were terrified of death, so they made up Heaven and Hell." I'm certainly not going to get into some random matrix take the blue pill or red scenario. But I researched it on my own, and came to my conclusions. I want to add as I am a hair defensive on the subject but loath being biased, that if anyone starts to doubt, and only look up atheist web sites you would be subjected to an amazing amount of one sided knowledge (just as if you were questionable about people of different races and only researched on the KKK website) I like to imagine anyone in that scenario making sure that they really see what is fully out there. I honestly miss the search because Its so much like space " You only see new things if you continue to look".... QT; Men have had the vanity to pretend that the whole creation was made for them, while in reality the whole creation does not suspect their existence.
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Greg,
I would like to ask..
Have you stopped your search for the truth?

Thanks in advance.

There was a point when I became obsessed with the topic. I grabbed everything I could lay my eyes on and really went to town. I have some very religious family members who are part of a right wing church that asks not for minimal offerings of 7 to 10% but... 15% of their income. It was such a bother to me when I realized that all the money is sent down to a very rich man in California who operated this organization. The money is never spent on the church here (in Canada) as it is just a cheap time share hall that only operates as a meeting place on Sunday. Anyway, I became consumed with wanting to change all of that, and for so many other reasons as well... I had many debates. My friends enjoyed discussions and so did my family members. And I continued to learn more and more but always came to the same conclusion. A few years ago I stopped it all together and accepted that I can not discuss this any longer because no matter what I do or say it changes no man if the man {woman} has faith. And vice versa, this is the first time I've even discussed religion in years. And to be quite honest am surprised it has been so pleasant, lol. I am always interested in new facts or findings but "as I'm sure you do" try to stick to my beliefs. It's funny that I'm an atheist, but I follow the ten commandments. Its funny that I try to avoid the seven sins. Although they could add to that list. I have a few telescopes now and Kayla and I sit out at night sometimes and I find cool planets to look at and tell her that maybe she can go to that planet one day. I fill this need for knowledge in a better way now. But to answer your question, I look but don't hunt, give me the star-ship enterprise and I promise to do a better search for the truth. But until then I'm pretty content believing that I have found just about all the believable by me truths I'm going to find for now. I enjoy NOVA and other programs that give both sides in different ways, times, and presented as facts no matter what the topic. But that's about it.

Thanks for the help guys.

NeedKarma... I guess I worded differently than what I meant. When I said that I stopped trying not to sin... I meant that things I did that weren't good were just... things I did that weren't good... instead of sins... if that makes any sense. I just stopped seeing them as sins... and just as mistakes. Maybe they are both the same... I don't know... I'm just confused about it all. If anything... I think I've been a better person lately. As if I'm being good for myself... not for god. Which in truth, makes me feel very good. That might sound bad, but its only the truth and how I feel.

I have researched a lot... about different types of christianity... atheism... buddhism... even satanism... but that was more out of curiosity I think. They all seem made up. And I hate the fact that there has to be so many rules and guidelines. That seems so pointless. I'm told that they are to keep humans acting civily... but we know what is right and what is wrong. Does anyone get what I'm saying?

Thanks for the help guys.

NeedKarma... I guess I worded differently than what i meant. when i said that i stopped trying not to sin...i meant that things i did that weren't good were just... things i did that werent good...instead of sins...if that makes any sense. i just stopped seeing them as sins...and just as mistakes. maybe they are both the same...i dont know... im just confused about it all. if anything...i think ive been a better person lately. as if im being good for myself...not for god. which in truth, makes me feel very good. that might sound bad, but its only the truth and how i feel.

i have researched a lot...about different types of christianity...atheism...buddhism...even satanism...but that was more out of curiosity i think. they all seem made up. and i hate the fact that there has to be so many rules and guidelines. that seems so pointless. im told that they are to keep humans acting civily...but we know what is right and what is wrong. does anyone get what im saying?


In your search for the truth and going through all these religions and guidelines I hope and pray that you stop and talk to God about Him opening up your eyes to the truth Romans 3:22-24

I have. I have asked god countless times to help me or guide me or show me the way and all that. I have kept my heart, mind, and eyes open for signs and miracles. And I continue to do so.
So far... this is where it has lead me.

if anything...i think ive been a better person lately. as if im being good for myself...not for god. which in truth, makes me feel very good. that might sound bad, but its only the truth and how i feel.Great to hear. You can be spared all the guilt associated with trying to please someone else. You seem to have good inner morality, follow it, that's what I do. Good luck!

There was a point when I became obsessed with the topic. I grabbed everything I could lay my eyes on and really went to town. I have some very religious family members who are part of a right wing church that asks not for minimal offerings of 7 to 10% but... 15% of their income. It was such a bother to me when I realized that all the money is sent down to a very rich man in California who operated this organization. The money is never spent on the church here (in Canada) as it is just a cheap time share hall that only operates as a meeting place on Sunday. Anyways, I became consumed with wanting to change all of that, and for so many other reasons as well..... I had many debates. My friends enjoyed discussions and so did my family members. And I continued to learn more and more but always came to the same conclusion. A few years ago I stopped it all together and accepted that I can not discuss this any longer because no matter what I do or say it changes no man if the man {woman} has faith. And vice versa, this is the first time I've even discussed religion in years. And to be quite honest am surprised it has been so pleasant, lol. I am always interested in new facts or findings but "as I'm sure you do" try to stick to my beliefs. It's funny that I'm an atheist, but I follow the ten commandments. Its funny that I try to avoid the seven sins. Although they could add to that list. I have a few telescopes now and Kayla and I sit out at night sometimes and I find cool planets to look at and tell her that maybe she can go to that planet one day. I fill this need for knowledge in a better way now. But to answer your question, I look but don't hunt, give me the star-ship enterprise and I promise to do a better search for the truth. But until then I'm pretty content believing that I have found just about all the believable by me truths I'm gonna find for now. I enjoy NOVA and other programs that give both sides in different ways, times, and presented as facts no matter what the topic. But that's about it.

A starship could take us a long way,but it will still not take me where I wish to be.:rolleyes:
I follow the ten commandments too but I am not a Christian!:)
I believe in Jesus (alaihi salaam) and his teachings too, not the part about him being the son of God or God Himself etc.

Thanks for the help guys.

NeedKarma... I guess I worded differently than what i meant. when i said that i stopped trying not to sin...i meant that things i did that weren't good were just... things i did that werent good...instead of sins...if that makes any sense. i just stopped seeing them as sins...and just as mistakes. maybe they are both the same...i dont know... im just confused about it all. if anything...i think ive been a better person lately. as if im being good for myself...not for god. which in truth, makes me feel very good. that might sound bad, but its only the truth and how i feel.

i have researched a lot...about different types of christianity...atheism...buddhism...even satanism...but that was more out of curiosity i think. they all seem made up. and i hate the fact that there has to be so many rules and guidelines. that seems so pointless. im told that they are to keep humans acting civily...but we know what is right and what is wrong. does anyone get what im saying?


It sounds like you were tired of trying to be "good" and got to point where you did not care anymore.

Is this your impression of Christianity? Or the one you get from Christians:) ?

You don't need to be "religious" to want to or try to "be good."
Go ahead, research science, Buhdism, Islam, Wicca, Judaism, Atheism.
You can work to be "good" no matter what you call it.


Now,


Think about it,

Jesus forgave those who crucified Him, certainly they were sinners and not being good.

Jesus granted clemency to the thief crucified at His side just for his belief. Certainly he was a sinner and had no time to be "good."

Jesus did not condemn, but rescued the women caught in the act of adultery. Certainly she was not "good."

Jesus told parables the lost sheep, the prodigal son, the lost coin. There was rejoicing when these were found.



I hope you find your answers.




Grace and Peace

It sounds like you were tired of trying to be "good" and got to point where you did not care anymore.Please reread what he wrote, you missed something.

NK

Yes, I misunderstood that.

Let me restate that, perhaps the OP is tired trying to be "good" for the sake of others or "isms" and feels more natural when they are following their own sense of right and wrong.




Grace and Peace

That's sounds right to me. :)

Yeah, we can agree!!



Grace and Peace

i used to be such a good christian...i prayed all the time, whenever i wasn't doing anything. i talked to God about everything that went on in my life. I avoided any situations where I would be tempted to sin. Then, everything just...stopped. I stopped caring if God listened to me...I stopped trying to not sin.... and now I just question everything about religion period. It all just seems like something made up a long time ago by people who were terrified of death, so they made up Heaven and Hell.

Are these signs of questioning the Lord, or becoming agnostic? Or atheist?

Yes you are questioning your faith, perhaps it's because your have not found the relationship with God that Christianity is actually about. Christianity is not a religion, that is a system of rites and acts to please God, Christianity is a relationship, one to one with Jesus Christ

Yes, I know paraclete. I had that relationship once. Its like time and experience weared it down until it eventually disappeared.

Yes, i know paraclete. i had that relationship once. its like time and experience weared it down until it eventually disappeared.

We are all being worn down everyday, I would just encourage you to read or re-read the book of James, specifically James 1:2-18. "The road is narrow and difficult that leads to salvation but the road that is wide and easy leads to destruction (paraphrase)"

Keep on keeping on... just the fact that you are reading this and posting these things means you after giving up the good fight. God bless.

I to have questions about my faith. I gitting more and more sick of organized religion. On one hand someone says "Love your neibor ,and then they put down a muslim for not beliving in jesus. And they say Muslim women should not wear burqas. That sounds like pride to me. do get me wrong, I have my own problems. all chirstians say jesus was god made man. Muslims say he was only a pophet. Wars have been fought over this. When will it end? Satan is laughing at all of us. He wants us to argue, call names ,and act like kids.
I have learned that Muslim women actually a burqa as to not attract the opposite sex. Some people say that burqas are a sign of oppression, and in former taliban ruled Afganistan it was. That's what people focus on. So they say "No one should wear burqas!" So what should they wear then? Tight fitting shirts instead? And people wonder why young girl and women get raped. They need to wear non-sexuality stemulating cloths and travel in groups.

I got kicked a star wars website called thejediacademy because I had written sci-fi story about Chirstians fighitng radical muslims. Ironic that those same people did not believe in god. I was mad because those people in my eyes had forgotton about 9/11. I was also mad that they probaily never a dissicion that take place between two young marines (two of the main characters.) A Chirstian and Muslim. The muslim asks the chirstian if he feels threatened by muslim friend. The Chirstian says no, and not to bring up issue again for fear of paranoia setting in. I had gotten made at them for bad mouthing my story, then I spent over a year apoligizing, I was kicked out for having Conscience ,and thirst hear or see the words I FORGIVE YOU. I tried to be nice but they hated me because of my consent posting asking to be forgiven.
Pure creation Pure evolution both are too judgmental. That's why like divine design.

Faith is a struggle, it's no cake walk. People that say they have all the answers make me sick. Granted I have done that same thing. Questioning organisized religion is good. Sometimes it takes quiet maddition to trutly grasp something. Find a nice quiet place and read your bible.