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Uric
Aug 24, 2007, 10:48 AM
Hi There!

I´m a brazilian International Relations Student and a professor told me about the site and so, here I am.

I would like to know about International Anarchy. When and where this term was used for the very first time? Is there someone before Hedlley Bull who wrote about this?


I´m glad to meet the site and the community and I´m waiting for the answers. :)

ETWolverine
Aug 24, 2007, 12:36 PM
Hello, Uric.

Hedley Bull did not actually use the term "International Anarchy" or claim that international anarchy would be a good thing. What he said was that the international community, while anarchical in nature, is actually made up of states that work together to form a "system" and a "society" when they have sufficient interaction with each other. They end up forming treaties and a set of international laws in order to interact with each other to mutual benefit. His argument was actually against the idea of anarchy in the international community. Bull was one of the founders of the "English School of international relations" (AKA "liberal realism").

There are a number of other authors who are associated with Bull that you might want to check out: Andrew Hurrell (who's actual expertise is in Brazillian international relations, as a matter of coincidence), R.J. Vincent (author of Order and Violence), and Brunello Vigezzi (another author on the topic of the English School). You might be able to find more information by reading up on those authors.

Elliot

tomder55
Aug 25, 2007, 03:36 AM
Hi Uric
,welcome... this is a fun site.

Pierre-Joseph Proudhon is arguably the father of the anarchist movement. He is famous for saying "property is theft " and "anarchy is order " . He was a friend and correspondent of Karl Marx until they had a split over their philosophical differences.

He defined anarchy in 1840 as "the absence of a master, of a sovereign" in his writing 'What is Property? Or, an Inquiry into the Principle of Right and of Government '. He saw capital ,the church and the state as equally oppressive .


What capital does to labour, and the State to liberty, the Church does to the spirit. This trinity of absolutism is as baneful in practice as it is in philosophy. The most effective means for oppressing the people would be simultaneously to enslave its body, its will and its reason .

Of course later in his life he modified his views in favor of personal property as a guard against the state.


"property is the greatest revolutionary force which exists, with an unequaled capacity for setting itself against authority."
Theory of Property

Anyway it is much more complex than my simple summary . Suffice it to say that he was and continues to be one of the major influences of the anarchist.

'Pierre-Joseph Proudhon: A Biography' By Woodcock, George is a good place to start researching him.

Dark_crow
Aug 25, 2007, 08:20 AM
Hi There!

I´m a brazilian International Relations Student and a professor told me about the site and so, here I am.

I would like to know about International Anarchy. When and where this term was used for the very first time? Is there someone before Hedlley Bull who wrote about this?


I´m glad to meet the site and the community and I´m waiting for the answers. :)
Hello

As has been pointed out, and I believe rightfully so, we must start with the concept of Anarchism. When I think of Anarchism, what comes to my mind is the struggle between freedom and slavery.

La Boétie wrote the following essay while still a law student at the University of Orléans in the early 1550s.

The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude.

“THESE WORDS Homer puts in the mouth of Ulysses,1 as he addresses the people. If he had said nothing further than "I see no good in having several lords," it would have been well spoken. For the sake of logic he should have maintained that the rule of several could not be good since the power of one man alone, as soon as he acquires the title of master, becomes abusive and unreasonable.
The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude by Etienne de la Boetie (http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/laboetie.html)

But was not liberty Christ's message, and is that compatible with government; no, Jesus' life began in an- Act of Defiance to Government.

Consider Jesus' commandment of the Golden Rule, is that not anarchist; a free market, anarchist to be specific i.e. that no person or group of people may initiate the use of force against another, or threaten to initiate force against another.


Romans 13:8-10:
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not bear false witness," "You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Luke 4:4-8: Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours." And Jesus answered and said to him, "Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " (See also Matt. 4:1-11; Mark 1:12,13; Luke 4:1-13.)


So it is that Jesus was the first anarcho-capitalist.

Jesus Is an Anarchist, by James Redford -- anti-state.com (http://www.anti-state.com/redford/redford4.html)

Leo Tolstoy's The Kingdom of God Is Within You [1] (1894) is a key text in modern Christian anarchism.

Christian anarchism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism)