View Full Version : Is Fortune Hi Tech Marketing good?
wtfury
Aug 22, 2007, 08:58 PM
My youngest daughter called this evening and told me she was thinking about signing up with Fortune Hi Tech Marketing. My question is this; Are they a good online company, or just another scam?
She wants to try to make some extra money with an online company and do it from home in her spare time.
I've gone to their wesite and it seems legite but haven't been able to locate how much money they want at signup. I'm worried she'll get ripped off and my wife has told her to really check it out before agreeing to anything. So, is there anybody out there that can help? I'd really like to forward any info you can give, good or bad, so she'll make a good decision.
Thx in advance,
wtfury
excon
Aug 22, 2007, 09:03 PM
but haven't been able to locate how much money they want at signup. I'm worried she'll get ripped off Hello wt:
If she's signing up to make money, why would she have to pay anything to sign up?? What does this company expect of her? Is there an actual job doing something??
Without any more information, I'd stay away! It smells to high heaven.
excon
merletweb
Aug 23, 2007, 09:10 PM
My youngest daughter called this evening and told me she was thinking about signing up with Fortune Hi Tech Marketing. My question is this; Are they a good online company, or just another scam?
She wants to try to make some extra money with an online company and do it from home in her spare time.
I've gone to their wesite and it seems legite but haven't been able to locate how much money they want at signup. I'm worried she'll get ripped off and my wife has told her to really check it out before agreeing to anything. So, is there anybody out there that can help? I'd really like to forward any info you can give, good or bad, so she'll make a good decision.
Thx in advance,
wtfury
Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) is a legit company. It's been in business for seven years and continues to grow faster each year. It's a network marketing company. This concept has been around for over 50 years and has made many people very wealthy.
There is an investment since you are starting a business not being hired for a job. My wife and I have been in the business for over a year and we can testify to the fact that the business works if you work the business. Like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it. The company provides training and mentoring. You don't just join and get left on your own. We hold their hands until they can work the business on their own and even then we're still available to help them if they need us.
I strongly recommend this company. Let's get real here, would companies like Dish Network, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, Disney, GE, etc. partner with a company this isn't legit? Those companies are Fortune 500 companies with a huge legal staff. They have looked into FHTM in extreme detail before partnering with FHTM.
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Fr_Chuck
Aug 23, 2007, 09:12 PM
Any body see a theme here, a new member asks a question about a network marketing company and poof, another new member just happens to join up that knows all the facts. Was that not just the perfect luck or what.
If it was that easy, well a promise of riches for doing almost nothing, personal opinoin run from it as fast as humanly possible.
wtfury
Aug 24, 2007, 04:11 AM
Yea Chuck, When she told me about it I thought I'd see if anybody here knew anything. Didn't know I'd start a recruitment theme. I've always been a hard working person. Tried a few home marketing things myself with no results. So when she called and told us what she was thinking about doing, I had to ask.
I'm leaving it up to my daughter to decide, but I have told her to check it out and make sure it's legit. I know she's just looking to supplement her income. I've even told her to check into medical transcribing as she does work in the medical field. Thanks for posts.
Fr_Chuck
Aug 24, 2007, 05:24 AM
Yes, I guess the thing is, a person can make money on any scheme almost if it is just not illegal. ** and they don't seem to be illegal.
A lot of the stuffing evelopes at home and the re-shipping of items is of course as is all of the cashing checks for companies.
But it is just like amway ( love those products) and some of the MLM things, you can really make money, but you will have to work at it.
I wish it was that easy, heck I need to make an extra 1000 a month myself. But I find most money on things are made signing up other people, not sure about this. Heck there is even this Coastal Vacation people. ** have not seen them for a while, I know some people make money, but a lot don't either, it is the how much work are you going to do.
I got into an "insurnace" thing a while back, the upper people made money, I did not sign anybody under me, I made a little money
NeedKarma
Aug 24, 2007, 05:35 AM
That byebyejob website exhibits the MLM scam warning signs:
- phone number is unlisted, cannot do reverse lookup on it
- absolutely no contact information for people or company location
- makes a point to not mention what the products are or how they are sold, big focus on getting rich, no mention of "fees" yet you have been asked to pay something up front
Run, don't walk away from this.
merletweb
Aug 24, 2007, 03:23 PM
That byebyejob website exhibits the MLM scam warning signs:
- phone number is unlisted, cannot do reverse lookup on it
- absolutely no contact information for people or company location
- makes a point to not mention what the products are or how they are sold, big focus on getting rich, no mention of "fees" yet you have been asked to pay something up front
Run, don't walk away from this.
Thanks for your opinion. Allow me to resond.
I'll start by asking you a few questions. How long have you been in business? What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
My business web addresss is FortuneHeadquarters.com (http://FortuneHeadquarters.com) There you will find our complete list of products/services and investment required.
We don't use our personal phone numbers because of number of prank callers. This has forced us to use message numbers. A common practice in this industry, I'm sure you're aware of this.
As for getting rich, get your hands on a copy of last month's issue of "Success from Home" magazine. Then entire issue is devoted to FHTM and shows many that have become "RICH" in this company. In fact the magazine will be publishing a follow-up issue. Something the have never done before.
Our company was also featured on the cover of "Millionaire Blueprints" magazine eariler this year.
Other than your opinion that you mentioned above can you give any solid evidence that FHTM is other than credible? I do mean solid evidence, not just opinion based on a hunch. I would like for you to cite your sources. FHTM has a top notch legal department that is poised to sue anyone what slanders the company.
Curlyben
Aug 24, 2007, 03:36 PM
FHTM has a top notch legal department that is poised to sue anyone what slanders the company.
Now before you even think about legal action it is extremely important that you get your terms right.
They can happily sue me for SLANDER, I'll even give you my contact information to that end.
Anyway this DOESN'T detract from the fact that FHTM has all the look and feel of a classic MLM operation.
Call it what you will and dress it up however you want, it's all the same.
The poor schmuck at the bottom does ALL the work for little reward UNLESS he can recruit people for a level BELOW him.
For further eading on MLM read here for starters: Multi-level marketing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing)
merletweb
Aug 24, 2007, 03:50 PM
Any body see a theme here, a new member asks a question about a network marketing company and poof, another new member just happens to join up that knows all the facts. Was that not just the perfect luck or what.
If it was that easy, well a promise of riches for doing almost nothing, personal opinoin run from it as fast as humanly possible.
First of all I never knew this web site existed until I got a message from Google News. I subscribe to the service at they report anything with "Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing" in the title or text of an article. This one came up this week so I investigated it. That's why I subscribe to the service. I'm surprised that a Ordained Minister would have such negative thoughts toward someone he doesn't even know.
Your description of MLM companies falls in line with those that have not really looked at it in detail. Yes, there are sign-up bonuses but the real money is in residual income from sales. Our company requires us to gather only 10 customers. If you want more money, sure you can get more but gathering 10 customers and recruiting only 3 others to do the same doesn't take much and delivers a large sum of money. It can allow one to retire after doing the business for 3-5 years. This is much better than 40 years, don't you agree?
If you are willing I will take the time to show you how MLM compensation plans work and how the money is really made.
If you want to see a scam they go to corporate America. They buy your services at wholesale and resell them at a great profit. You can rarely make more money than your boss and he/she never want for you to learn more than they know. They won't teach you how to do their job. They want you to climb "the ladder of success". Only problem is the scenery never changes. It's the butt of the person above you. The only way you can move up is when he/she does. The secret of success is not to climb the ladder but to own it! Jobs may be good for some but there is a segment of the population that will not settle for that. Network Marketing or MLM is the business for those type of people. It's not for everyone. Some folks have no business owning a business. We look for those that want more and guess what? We find them!
Thanks for opinion. You sound like a reasonable person that can look at all the facts and then come to a qualified conclusion.
Respectfully,
Paul
merletweb
Aug 24, 2007, 03:55 PM
Now before you even think about legal action it is extremely important that you get your terms right.
They can happily sue me for SLANDER, I'll even give you my contact information to that end.
Anyway this DOESN'T detract from the fact that FHTM has all the look and feel of a classic MLM operation.
Call it what you will and dress it up however you want, it's all the same.
The poor schmuck at the bottom does ALL the work for little reward UNLESS he can recruit people for a level BELOW him.
For further eading on MLM read here for starters: Multi-level marketing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing)
Thanks for the correction. It looks like you understood me. Nevertheless my questions still stand: How long have you been in business? What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
For further reading please get a copy of last month's issue of "Success from Home" magazine.
You really don't seem to fully understand the concept of MLM. I'd be more than glad to bring you up to date if you wish.
Thanks for you reply,
Paul
Curlyben
Aug 24, 2007, 04:03 PM
Thanks for the correction. It looks like you understood me. Nevertheless my questions still stand: How long have you been in business? What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice? How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
Ok I'll play for a bit.
1/ Long enough
2/ Common sense
3/ All of them.
Now please this isn't a recruitment campaign for what ever MLM is the flavour of the minute.
If you would take the time to read some other similar posts on the site you will find that this style of post crops up again and again.
Easy Riches are always promised, but on deeper digging the picture isn't so rosy.
There is a saturation point to ANY MLM operation that is reached relatively quickly and the only way to ensure continual growth is to proactivly recruit others.
Remember the says That All That Glitters Is NOT Gold and If It Sounds To Good To Be True It Probably Is.
Thank you.
For anyone that's interested:
Ripoff Report Search Results: fortune hi tech (http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=fortune+hi+tech&Search=Search)
MLM Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=231)
NeedKarma
Aug 24, 2007, 06:54 PM
How long have you been in business?
Much longer than you have.
What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice?
I have been on the internet since its inception, around 1989. I have helped spot dubious business proposals soon after that.
How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
None (thank goodness), but I have seen many others lose money and they have told me their stories.
We don't use our personal phone numbers because of number of prank callers. This has forced us to use message numbers. A common practice in this industry, I'm sure you're aware of this.
No I am not aware of this. I know of no legitimate business that is frightened of prank callers.
FHTM has a top notch legal department that is poised to sue anyone what slanders the company.
The fact that you immediate response is to use legal action puts you in the same league as Scientology. And we all know how legit they are. If you are doing this then you obviously are running scared because you have something to hide.
merletweb
Aug 24, 2007, 06:56 PM
Ok I'll play for a bit.
1/ Long enough
2/ Common sense
3/ All of them.
Now please this isn't a recruitment campaign for what ever MLM is the flavour of the minute.
If you would take the time to read some other similar posts on the site you will find that this style of post crops up again and again.
Easy Riches are always promised, but on deeper digging the picture isn't so rosy.
There is a saturation point to ANY MLM operation that is reached relatively quickly and the only way to ensure continual growth is to proactivly recruit others.
Remember the says That All That Glitters Is NOT Gold and If It Sounds To Good To Be True It Probably Is.
Thank you.
For anyone that's interested:
Ripoff Report Search Results: fortune hi tech (http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=fortune+hi+tech&Search=Search)
MLM Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=231)
I never tell anyone it's easy. In fact I stress the fact that work is involved. It does take work, but then what doesn't? Jobs take work and offer very little in reward. Work 40 hours a week for 40 years then take a major cut in pay when you retire. Someone else decides when you get a raise and when you can take a day off. You have little or nothing to say about it. If one of your kids is sick and has to go to the doctor you have to ask permission to take time off to make sure your child can be seen by a doctor. In some cases it's a supervisor several years younger than you with him mind on reading his MySpace account or what new video MTV will be showing that evening. Now that's what I call a scam!
We definitely have a difference of opinion regarding Network Marketing. It's working great for me and my team. We're very happy and have made many people happy with their new futures. Some of us have already reached the "rich" status and are currently helping other get there too. This type of business isn't for everyone. Indeed it's clear that it's not for you. Likewise, jobs aren't for me. I've had some and didn't like 'em. Working for myself sure is nice. The business model is simple, the work isn't easy. It's not a get rich quick scheme. Anyone that says so is simply not telling the truth. Success in network marketing can take 3 to 5 years if it's done right. Yes, you can get rich in network marketing.
The web sites you cited are far from credible. A vast majority of the posts are based on opinion only, very few if any facts. In fact scam.com may very well qualify as a scam. I surprised you haven't come to that conclusion by now.
Yes, I have heard people say "If it sounds too good to be true it is" but I've never heard a rich person say that.
I won't waste you time trying to convert you. I have years of experience in networking marketing and learned long ago that when someone makes up their mind about something no one will change it.
Be well my friend. I wish you well in whatever you pursue.
merletweb
Aug 24, 2007, 07:29 PM
How long have you been in business?
Much longer than you have.
What kind of answer is that? Please tell me how long I've been in business.
What are your qualifications that would urge someone to take your advice?
I have been on the internet since its inception, around 1989. I have helped spot dubious business proposals soon after that.
I worked on the internet in a government facility long before it became public. I wasn't just "on the internet" I actually worked on it before the world wide web was developed and data was being transmitted via telnet and ftp in the 70's. Looks like we have a similar background in that area.
How many years of network marketing do you have behind you?
None (thank goodness), but I have seen many others lose money and they have told me their stories.
I thought so. Most critics have limited or no experience in the field. I know there are people on the internet that are scams but I'm not about to assume that everyone on the internet is a scam artist. That would only be silly. It only takes an hour or so to learn about network marketing from someone that is in the business and successful. Sitting down with someone like that would allow you to ask all the questions you have. Anyone with an open mind should be able to handle something like that. Post a message on your local Craigslist and I'm sure someone would be more than glad to take the time to discuss this issue with you. Network marketing has been around for over 50 years and has survived critics all this time.
Yes, there are some businesses out there that hide behind the title of network marketing or mlm that are scams. Of course that's true in any line of business. It's hard to feel comfortable buying a car from a used car dealer due to all the scams in that business. That doesn't mean all car dealers are scams does it?
Thanks for your input, it was very interesting.
excon
Aug 25, 2007, 05:59 AM
Hello:
I don't know. I went to the website, and I didn't see anything about product and services... I don't know what they sell, if anything.. If I was interested is working, I'd kind of want to know what work I'd be doing... They don't tell you. I wonder why.
excon
Fr_Chuck
Aug 25, 2007, 07:22 AM
Yes Excon this is the verry first red flag of a marketing company, when all the are selling on their web site if the right to sell their product but don't tell you what the product is. Heck at least that other company we talk about a lot tells us on their site what they sell.
I believe they market the right to sign other people up to market the right to market people.
Maybe we should "sell" rights to use this site or something, set up a marketing plan where we get paid to sign up new members. Then all the admin people here would be super rich, could do the site form some island they buy off the coast.
merletweb
Aug 25, 2007, 08:38 AM
Gee folks, this isn't rock science. The web site is very simple to understand. Go to FortuneHeadquarters.com (http://FortuneHeadquarters.com) and look at the menu bar on the left hand side of the page. It's the black bar with gold buttons. The 3rd button from the top reads "Fortune Products". Move your pointer over that button and click on it. You can see all the products/services we offer and you can also buy them there.
As for what you need to do just go to the same menu bar and click on the image at the top of the menu that reads "SEE PRESENTATION".
It's all there. Thank you Fr_Chuck for casting the first stone without looking at where the stone was being cast.
If this business isn't for you I completely understand. Just get ready to go to work for the man for the rest of your adult life and enjoy our 2 weeks of annual vacation.
God bless you all.
nsteblay
Aug 27, 2007, 07:35 PM
Gambiling - many people lose a little, a few win a lot.
Network Marketing - many people spend a little, a few make a lot.
Network Marketing - always based on some good (health, clean, etc.) feel product. In recent times has proved to be a cost effective means for large companies to market their products. No downside for the large companies, so they sign up. It's all economics.
I think people should educate themselves - arts, literature, sciences, engineering, philosophy, theology, politics, psychology, etc. and get job, start a business, provide a service, make something that really adds value to life.
It is a Godly to work hard at something you love and that really helps people. It is un-Godly to work for the love of money and earn simply by taking advantage of others. Just because a system provides economic benefit to large corporations and is "legal" doesn't make it ethical. Network marketing (pyramid schemes) will always be legal, like gambling, because there aren't "big" losers, just lots of "little" losers. Pyramid schemes are mostly harmless but philosophically I question their ethics.
merletweb
Aug 27, 2007, 09:05 PM
Network marketing (pyramid schemes) will alway be legal, like gambling, because there aren't "big" losers, just lots of "little" losers. Pyramid schemes are mostly harmless but philosophically I question their ethics.
Pyramid schemes, a business model where only the people at the to make all the money. Sounds like corporate America to me. How many businesses exist where an employee makes more money they their supervisor? Churches are a pyramid. Pastor, associate Pastors, Deacons, and on down the line. Government, same thing. Families, Parents are at the top of the pyramid. Work place, pyramid.. The pyramid is not a bad thing. It's bad in a business that is MLM but not all MLMs work that way. FHTM allows members to excel beyond their sponsors. My son has past the 5 people above him in earnings.
Not all MLMs are bad. It's true that 80 percent of MLMs will fail within the first year but guess what? The same is true for any small business. In fact the failure rate is higher in the restaurant business! It more in the hight 90 percentile! Does that mean all small business are scams? Does that mean that all restaurants are a scam? NO! It just means that only 10 percent of people belong in business. When someone joins a MLM and fails a majority of the time it's because that person failed to follow directions.
I don't believe that anyone can make money by doing nothing! MLMs, just like any other business requires work! I don't think it's evil to desire money. In fact the Bible has something to say about that: "But remember the Lord your God, for it is he who give you the ability to produce wealth..." Dt. 8:18 God wants us to be blessed in order to be a blessing to others. This requires us to work for it, not just pray and sit there until manna falls from heaven. It doesn't work that way. "Faith without deeds is dead" James 2:26
If it's bad to desire wealth then should everyone quit their jobs? Of course not! Is $6.00 an hour wealth? In a majority of the world, yes it is! A wealthy person can do a lot of good. Ask any pastor where the majority of his church's donations come from. He will tell you that 20 percent of the members give 80 percent of the offerings. A majority of that 20 percent are business owners or wealthy people. Go ahead, ask! I've asked many pastors and that's the answer I keep getting. Rich people carry the local church. There isn't anything wrong with that. I asked a local business man about his giving thousands of dollars to his church and other churches too. He told me: "I simply can't out give God, the more I give the more he blesses me." He understands where his success comes from and shares his wealth with the churches in his community.
I just can't agree with your comments. I'm in the MLM business and I know how it works. Not by what someone's know-it-all brother-in-law but from personal experience. A person will get as much out of MLM as he puts into it. No work, no money. Lots of work, lots of money. Hey, it's a business. It requires work. If someone doesn't like work then he has no business in any type of business, not just MLM! Lazy people don't make money.
Thanks for you time. May God bless you, He certainly blesses me!
wtfury
Aug 28, 2007, 03:31 PM
Ok, enough is enough!
Thanks for responding to the question. I'll send all the info to my daughter. She's the one interested in supplementing her income. I didn't mean to start a war of words here and I apologize that people are getting so argumentive with the pros and cons.
All I wanted was some good solid information as to how much money it would cost her to start, and if the business was legit. But since my question has "not" been answered I withdraw it.
I understand quite well how business works in the free enterprise system. There is always an investment to start up and I just wanted to know about how much she would have to pay... She works in the medical field and has a one year old at home, so her funds are limited. Thanks again for the posts and like I said, I'll forward them to her so "she" can decide.
With that in mind: Please close this discussion. Thanks!
NeedKarma
Aug 28, 2007, 03:42 PM
There is always an investment to start up and I just wanted to know about how much she would have to pay.If she starts her own business and controls every aspect of it. Consider this: when you've accepted a job in a company, when was the last time you had to pay anything upfront to another person?
merletweb
Aug 28, 2007, 06:17 PM
If she starts her own business and controls every aspect of it. Consider this: when you've accepted a job in a company, when was the last time you had to pay anything upfront to another person?
Not everyone should start their own business. Some belong in a job. No responsibilities, no money up front, no freedom to decide when they should work, no freedom as to when they get a raise, no freedom to work with the people they want to work with, no freedom from a boss, no freedom to make as much money as you want.
The company you work for didn't start without paying up front. In a job you climb the ladder of success, your boss owns the ladder. In the end we all have to decide where we want to be. All businesses, to include MLMs, require money up front. With a job you pay later. Retirement with an income well below your base income from your job. Either decision isn't wrong. It's just what the person want to do. Simple as that. If you don't like the idea of owning your own business then don't own one! Now that was easy wasn't it?
nogetrich
Sep 17, 2007, 04:26 PM
Another MLM, sure some people can make money, but when the well runs dry, the last people in are toast! Some people want to badger friends, family, and anyone that will listen hence the numerous Rah Rah meetings. For me, it's about ethics as well as the dirtiness of asking people to join a MLM.
As far as the big mega companies that have partnered up, with competition so great for cellular and satellite providers, they would gladly provide a commission to people who can convince others to switch from DTV to Dish or from Sprint to Verizon or whatever it is, does that make the business legitimate? Not in my book, the theme and basis of making the money is to recruit other people, for some people that's okay, for me, that's not. This is nothing more than another legal MLM scam! Some people will make money of course, but I would try to do it without having to risk losing relationships with friends and family.
merletweb
Sep 18, 2007, 08:52 AM
Another MLM, sure some people can make money, but when the well runs dry, the last people in are toast! Some people want to badger friends, family, and anyone that will listen hence the numerous Rah Rah meetings. For me, it's about ethics as well as the dirtiness of asking people to join a MLM.
As far as the big mega companies that have partnered up, with competition so great for cellular and satellite providers, they would gladly provide a commission to people who can convince others to switch from DTV to Dish or from Sprint to Verizon or whatever it is, does that make the business legitimate? Not in my book, the theme and basis of making the money is to recruit other people, for some people that's okay, for me, that's not. This is nothing more than another legal MLM scam! Some people will make money of course, but I would try to do it without having to risk losing relationships with friends and family.
A "legal scam"?? Since when are scams legal? We just had Intel lay off 1,500 people from a local plant. Let me tell you, that guys at the top of that company made lots of money. Sure some people can make money working for Intel but when the well runs dry, the last people are toast! Just ask those 1,500 people that lost their jobs! But the people at the top made all the money. Sound familiar?? Does that make Intel a scam too? Of course not. Just because you don't agree with a business model doesn't make it a scam. It's just not for you. Hey, that's OK. I wouldn't want you in my business because It's not for you, simple as that.
shello
Sep 18, 2007, 11:58 PM
I have an important question for you. In doing research on "Success from Home" magazine it seems that every issue is devoted to one At Home/MLM company only. This seems odd to me. Can you confirm then that your organization simply purchased and produced the issue you speak so highly of? Because that is what I was gathering from the sypnosis' I read on each issue.
If the above is true, then your touting of this magazine might be a little misleading.
nogetrich
Sep 19, 2007, 03:09 PM
A "legal scam" ???? Since when are scams legal? We just had Intel lay off 1,500 people from a local plant. Let me tell you, that guys at the top of that company made lots of money. Sure some people can make money working for Intel but when the well runs dry, the last people are toast! Just ask those 1,500 people that lost their jobs! But the people at the top made all the money. Sound familiar???? Does that make Intel a scam too? Of course not. Just because you don't agree with a business model doesn't make it a scam. It's just not for you. Hey, that's ok. I wouldn't want you in my business because It's not for you, simple as that.
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Avoid any MLM plan that includes commissions for recruiting additional distributors.
Be cautious of plans that claim you will make money through continued growth of your recruits the commissions on sales made by new partners rather than through sales of products you make yourself.
Avoiding MLM Scams beware of plans that claim to sell miracle products or promise enormous earnings. Just because a promoter of a MLM plan makes a claim does not mean it is true. Ask the promoter of the plan to substantiate claims with hard evidence.
To avoid MLM Scams beware of references that may be setups or even friends paid by a plan's promoter to describe their phony success in earning money through the plan.
Do not sign any contracts in any high-pressure situation. Insist on taking your time to think over a decision to sign or to join. Talk it over with a third party maybe your business partner, or a knowledgeable friend, or lawyer.
Do your Due Diligence or research on all MLM Programs you are considering. Investigate with your local Better Business Bureau (BBB) about any plan you're considering, especially when the claims about the product or your potential revenues seem too good to be true.
Bottom line is does anyone want to make a living at trying to recruit family and friends? The comparison with Intel laying people off is ridiculous, there's no way to sugar coat it, it's MULTI-LEVEL! Forcing members to buy products to stay as a upline manager?
Hey did the intel employee ever have to pay $299 to get the job? I didn't think so!
You got suckered into the program hook line and sinker and now because it's your new business of suckering others, you get offended by someone throwing the truth in your face! It's a MLM, have you ever heard of scamway? Do you know what people perceive other people who are in these scams? Scammers! Go call your mother, father, brothers, sisters, cousins, godfather, cousins, dentist, doctor, neighbors, etc.. And go invite them to your scam meeting, what fun!
They will be looking at you as scum! People who get into these scams are always looking for the quick buck, finding and recruiting and convincing others that this is a "honest" way to get rich quick.
A total joke!
merletweb
Sep 19, 2007, 06:47 PM
The federal government has ruled on the difference between MLM and a pyramid scheme: The difference, they say, is that pyramid schemes expect a high buy-in with emphasis on signing others up while MLM actually has products that are sold.
If you say to someone that you're in MLM, you'll get one of two reactions: They either love MLM themselves and buy into the business model, or they hate it. Those who love it see the potential upside. Those who hate it have either been burned in the past or are sick of friends hounding them with a new business opportunity.
It's true, MLM does not have a great rap with some. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. The theory behind Network marketing is strong: Relational and word-of-mouth business building has always been one of the strongest ways to build business. Most traditional-style (that is, non-MLM) business owners will tell you that the best customers are the ones who were referred through word-of-mouth from satisfied customers.
So why does MLM have such a bad rap?
The main reason is that, although MLM companies do offer a variety of products (usually good products at reasonable prices), many MLM marketers see the possibility of making more money with their "downline" (the people they sign up who will sell products and share a cut of the profits) than with actually selling products. And, for the most part, many MLM companies spend more time encouraging their new recruits to build the downstream rather than sell products.
I know people who have not been successful with MLM. And, I know people who earn a living (not "get rich quick" but actually earn a living) with MLM. Frankly, the ones who were not successful tried to do it as a sideline to their regular job and spent more time trying to find additional recruits. The ones who earned a living who were successful did so by not placing such a priority on the downline and rather spent their energy and focus on selling products. Which is how a business makes money.
And if that's the case if the successful ones are the ones who are selling the products, not building a downstream then they are simply independent sales people with a catalog of products. But success with that method requires some sweat.
Is MLM a scam? No, it's not. Unfortunately some people who are not willing to put in the sweat equity required to make a business successful give it a bad name. Sure, there are bad MLMs out there just like there are bad car dealerships. Are all car dealerships bad because a handful are? I think not.
As for employees not having to pay $299 to get a job that what the difference it. MLM is a business not a job. Don't worry, this is a very common mistake that people make. Starting any business involves an investment.
This is far from "new" for me and actually I don't get offended when someone expresses their opinions about it. I know what I'm doing, I'm making money and I don't have to use lies to lure people into my group. In fact I don't try to change their minds if they don't like it. My intent in this forum is to show readers that Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (the subject of this thread) is a legit business. If you choose to believe otherwise that's fine with me.
I agree that before joining any MLM/Network Marketing company you should do your homework first. This industry is not a get-rich-quick scheme and I recommend one should stay away from any company that promises quick riches. It's taking me time to get where I am and I make that very clear to anyone I talk to about the business.
I do this full time and enjoy the freedom that the businesses affords me. I don't have to ask anyone for a day off or a raise. I don't have to settle for a 2% raise and then watch the cost of living go up by 5% at the same time. Hey, if this isn't for you that great! Showing up to a job every day, that's not for me!
nogetrich
Sep 21, 2007, 09:58 AM
Calling and pestering everyone I know to get them to do the same thing is NOT FOR ME!
Not to mention that you are immediately classified as a "MLM" type of person. NOT FOR ME!
I am sure there a few that can convince or find people willing to recruit and you can make money, but guess what, it's NOT FOR ME!
NeedKarma
Sep 21, 2007, 11:48 AM
So why does MLM have such a bad rap?Because a lot more people lost money than made money.
skrncoug87
Oct 2, 2007, 09:44 AM
Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) is a legit company. It's been in business for seven years and continues to grow faster each year. It's a network marketing company. This concept has been around for over 50 years and has made many people very wealthy.
There is an investment since you are starting a business not being hired for a job. My wife and I have been in the business for over a year and we can testify to the fact that the business works if you work the business. Like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it. The company provides training and mentoring. You don't just join and get left on your own. We hold their hands until they can work the business on their own and even then we're still available to help them if they need us.
I strongly recommend this company. Let's get real here, would companies like Dish Network, Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint, Disney, GE, etc. partner with a company this isn't legit? Those companies are Fortune 500 companies with a huge legal staff. They have looked into FHTM in extreme detail before partnering with FHTM.
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Yea that's the same line they pitched to me when I signed up (by the way it was a mistake) buh yea as far as is it legit?? Yes it is... will they pay you.? Yes they will... buht the only thing is if u're upline was like mine then yea fat chance u'll get helped at all... oh yea whoever the fortune rep is I set the denver record to get promoted the fastest to rsm so yea I know OK... buh yea... that's besides the point... the point is the reward is not worth what you put into it... it might be for like 2% of the people who join and for them congratulations but for the rest of us it's just a waste of time and money...
ReeRee1966
Oct 7, 2007, 06:17 AM
Hello. I happened upon your question and thought I throw my 2cents in. I recently became a rep for Fortune. I have a legal background so before I just "up and signed" I checked into the company. They are in good standing with the BBB in Kentucky. They have no complaints filed against them. They have a 3.8 rating with Dunn & Bradstreet. I checked with the Secretary of State's office in my state and there is nothing bad about them. I was told by the SOS's office that before a company is allowed to do business in our state (or any state) they (the SOS's office) must review a business layout, informing them of what the company is, what they do, etc. and then it's either approved or not. If it isn't they aren't allowed to operate inside our state. I learned what I could about them and between that and just plain common sense decided to become a Fortune Rep. Honestly, do you or anyone for that matter, really think that a Fortune 500 Company such as AT&T, Dish Network, Disney, GE, etc. etc. would do business with a company if they weren't legit? My advice... join Fortune with your daughter so you both can make money together. Good luck. ReeRee :)
crazymom101
Oct 10, 2007, 05:21 PM
That is not entirely true, I checked on the BBB site and it says: Number of complaints processed by the BBB over the last 36 months: 21
Number of complaints processed by the BBB in the last 12 months: 6
Go to Business Information from the BBB Serving Central and Eastern Kentucky (http://www.lexington.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=14004419) to check for yourself.