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wbbk7knu
Aug 18, 2007, 08:31 PM
Matthew 12: 22-32 Mark 3: 20-30

God said Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So why live on if you have ever blasphemed the Holy Ghost, why not just kill yourself, because you'll never be forgiven anyway.

Clough
Aug 18, 2007, 10:12 PM
By my understanding, I believe what is meant by these passages, is that whoever truly believes the Divine mission of Jesus Christ and is infused and influenced by the Holy Ghost commits the sometimes called unpardonable sin, when they ascribe the miracles of Christ to that of the Devil. However, if someone already believes in the Divine mission of Jesus Christ, then it is not possible for them to commit this sin because by believing, then it would not be possible for them to say that which is of Christ is of the Devil since they already believe and know that which is the work of the Holy Ghost from God.

In short then, "those who do this sin in ignorance, before they truly learn about God, will be forgiven if they later confess and repent (Genesis 20:3-6, Luke 12:47-48, Acts 17:30, Romans 2:12-15, Hebrews 5:2, James 4:17). Sin will only be counted against those who have heard truth and rejected it (John 9:41; 15:22)."

That's my take on it anyhow. I have had trouble with these passages myself. Maybe someone else will come along who can explain them even better.

I am wondering why you are asking your question. Do you think that you have committed blasphemy against the Holy Ghost? If so, how?

There is excellent commentary on these passages on the following site. Taking single Bible verses out of context and then thinking they mean one thing without knowing the full story behind them can be very confusing.

Link: Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (http://ecclesia.org/truth/blasphemy.html)


Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost

Richard Anthony

What specifically is the unpardonable sin? What does it mean to blaspheme against the Holy Ghost?

The most fateful words ever spoken by Jesus had to do with the fearful possibility of committing the unpardonable sin. He said:


Matthew 12:31, "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

Mark 3:28-30, "Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."

Luke 12:10, "And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."

No one can misconstrue the clear message of these verses. There is a sin unto death. A man or woman may pass over a line which separates God's mercy and His wrath and not be able to come back. What is this sin which Heaven regards with such abhorrence and loathing? Why will God deal so severely with those who are guilty of this sin? To the human mind a great number of depraved and cruel acts might fall into such a category but which one of them would God count so heinous and horrible that it could never be forgiven?

By looking at these verses in context, and reading the few verses just before Jesus says "blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven," we can understand its meaning.


Matthew and Mark's Passage

First, let's take a look at the book of Matthew and Mark. You will notice that, in these passages, the Pharisees accused Jesus of casting out demons in the name of Beelzebub the prince of the devils (Matthew 12:22-30, Mark 3:22-27). This is the context in Matthew and Mark just before Jesus spoke about the unpardonable sin.

In other words, what Jesus meant by this phrase is this: when a person attributed those works to the devil, which he had the fullest evidence could be wrought only by the Spirit of God, that this, and nothing else, is the sin against the Holy Ghost. This is evident from Mark 3:30! Right after Jesus said blasphemy against the Holy Ghost would not be forgiven, Jesus stated the reason:

Mark 3:30, "Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."

Here the matter is made clear beyond the smallest doubt. The unpardonable sin, as some term it, is neither less nor more than ascribing the miracles Christ wrought by the power of God, to the spirit of the devil. No man who believes the Divine mission of Jesus Christ, ever can commit this sin.


Luke's Passage

Now, let's look at the book of Luke. Just before Jesus says "but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven" in verse 10, Jesus said the following:

Luke 12:8-9, "Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God."

Again, this passage confirms that whoever "denies" Jesus before men will not be forgiven. The way one does this is by denying that the miracles Christ did was by the power of God, and ascribing his miracles to the spirit of the devil. However, this applies only to those who are knowledgeable about God. Those who do this sin in ignorance, before they truly learn about God, will be forgiven if they later confess and repent (Genesis 20:3-6, Luke 12:47-48, Acts 17:30, Romans 2:12-15, Hebrews 5:2, James 4:17). Sin will only be counted against those who have heard truth and rejected it (John 9:41; 15:22).


From Adam Clarke's Commentary

The sin here spoken of by our Lord ranks high in the catalogue of presumptuous sins, for which there was no forgiveness under the Mosaic dispensation (See Deuteronomy 1:43; 17:12-13, Numbers 15:30; Leviticus 20:10). When our Lord says that such a sin hath no forgiveness, is he not to be understood as meaning that the crime shall be punished under the Christian dispensation as it was under the Jewish, viz. by the destruction of the body? And is not this the same mentioned in 1 John 5:16, called there the sin unto death; i.e. a sin that was to be punished by the death of the body, while mercy might be extended to the soul? The punishment for presumptuous sins, under the Jewish law, to which our Lord evidently alludes, certainly did not extend to the damnation of the soul, though the body was destroyed: therefore I think that, though there was no such forgiveness to be extended to this crime as to absolve the man from the punishment of temporal death, yet, on repentance, mercy might be extended to the soul; and every sin may be repented of under the Gospel dispensation.

paraclete
Aug 19, 2007, 08:51 PM
This is something which is very deliberate and No Christian would do knowingly do it

wbbk7knu
Aug 20, 2007, 06:06 PM
I am wondering why you are asking your question. Do you think that you have committed blasphemy against the Holy Ghost? If so, how?

There was this guy on TV 'Benny Hin' or something had people healing at his preaching and my dad and his friend who are Christians said it's probably evil or something I don't know what to think about him cause I'm too scared to try and discern faith healing Holy or Evil cause I don't want to blaspheme. Think know my dad and his friend will never be forgiven? And another thing, I asked God for stuff and my prayers seemed to be answered when I found astral projection, but then I thought it was evil fallen angels for astral projection, but what if it was not evil fallen angels and it was God answer my prayer then did I blaspheme? Also If I say astral projection is from God and it's actually evil then again danger blaspheme I'm scared It's all over for me.

Fr_Chuck
Aug 20, 2007, 06:26 PM
No this would not be blasphemy against the holy spirit, You are worrying too much about something you can not do by accident or by mistake.

And by the way, I have seroius issues with Benny Hinn myself. I am sure people get healed in spite of him.

paraclete
Aug 20, 2007, 07:02 PM
Look, Christian ministers pray for healing all the time expecting God to hear their prayer and respond. Healing is one of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and so they act in Faith. To suggest this has anything to do with the practices of "faith healing" which is occultic at least is to blaspheme and it is certainly blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to say it is evil since God does not do evil things. Whether is is meant by the Scripture is difficult to discern. Astral projection is of the occult and to be involved is sin, not blasphemy but you should not pray to God for those things that are not part of His Will. To know his will you have to read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal it to you.

GoldieMae
Aug 20, 2007, 07:27 PM
"Faith Healing" for money is its own special sin, and criticizing someone who bilks people out of their hard earned money by proclaiming them healed is not blasphemy, but common sense.

I believe in healing by faith, but never by a proclaimed "faith healer." It is not blasphemy to call a fraud a fraud.

What I want to know is what's with the hair on the people on this show?? :eek: