Believe in Jesus and you will be saved... what about all the people with the other beliefs? They can't go to Heaven? What if there were cultures in this world that never got the message about Jesus or Mohammed, etc. Why do most people in these faiths want to try and convince you that they are right and you are wrong?

I believe in God because someone had to create us. Gases just don't appear and combust to form the Universe. I believe Jesus is my savior (not our savior) because of his teachings of Love Thy Neighbor and Do Unto Others. Do I think he was the son of God? I don't know. I mean I am me, and my father is my father, but I am not my father. God created life, God created Mary, yet Mary is the Mother of God?

My beliefs on Heaven and Hell: All people will go to Heaven, unless they have sinned and show no remorse. I feel Hitler could be in Heaven right now, because my God is a loving and forgiving God. And who are we to argue with God if Hitler is there?

This is not to offend people or to start arguments. I especially do not want people to reply to tell me I'm wrong. Tell me what you believe and we can have a good conversation. Faith is for each individual to decide what works best for them. As long as you have faith, because what else will get you through the hard times.

Peace to all!

I think Islam is the right religion because-

There is only One God/Allah (which means One God in Arabic).
Allah is neither a man or a woman , He cannot be compared to any of the created beings, He never begot nor was He begotten.
He is the most merciful and most just, and no one else can take the burden of another persons wrong doing.
He will not unjustly punish those who did not receive the message of Islamic monotheism.

The religion is the same religion of monotheism from the time of Adam through Abraham,Noah,Moses,Jesus till Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

Islam teaches man/woman that everything we do from the time we sleep till we wake up if we remember Allah and our intention is to please Him and folllow the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) then all our deeds will be rewarded.
Muslims are not muslims only when he/she prays but everything we do from the birth of a baby till we bury a person in his grave are given guidelines to follow.How we clean ourselves to how we interact with people, how we should gain knowledge to how to rule a state.
Allah forgives those who repent sincerely except setting up partners with Him (even that ,if He wills may forgive)

Another thing is that none of us are guaranteed Paradise/Heaven except those mentioned specifically in the Quran (like the Prophets,messengers,Mary the mother of Jesus, the wife of Pharaoh etc-peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all ).
It is out of Allah's mercy that we are admitted to Paradise. We believe He is the Most Just, hence those who have done an atoms weight of good shall see it, and those who have done an atoms weight of bad shall see it (not in this world,but the Hereafter).

Everyone will have their due on the Day of Judgement and if anyone has wronged or been wronged by others shall see it.That would be the ultimate justice.

These are some of the reasons I believe in my faith, I do not mind if others do not agree with my belief, it is my belief and I embrace it with all my heart.:)

What's the point of having a religion if you don't think it's right?

Nobody has a religion because they think it might be right, or because they think it's wrong but go along with it anyway (okay some people might, but they're not likely to insist that they're right if this is the case). If nobody thinks that it's right, then it's not a religion.

One word answers this question; DOGMA.

I especially agree with the "Love Thy Neighbor and Do Unto Others" part of what you said. But I think we have to be careful that we don't get all bunched up in "doing" and "Do I do enough?" and "Am I good enough?"--to the point that we worry about our actions earning us God's favor and getting us into heaven. I don't believe that's what it's all about, earning points with good deeds.

Better to BE a loving, giving person, having your focus on others, "find yourself by losing yourself," desiring to make life somehow a little better for others.

Then the "doing" will take care of itself.

Giani, you have made up your own denomination of Christianity. It has been my contention for a long time that Christians believe whatever they want to believe... that is one of Christianity's strengths... it's FLEXIBLE!

If you don't like hell, to hell with it!!

If you don't like the virgin birth, screw it!

And, so on...

The most important structure for a human being is to have excellent ethics/morality. Then, you can't go wrong.

I think you can take something good from any religion, but I generally stay away from the pomp, and ceremony, and tradition, and as Ben puts it, the dogma.

Believe in Jesus and you will be saved...what about all the people with the other beliefs? They can't go to Heaven? What if there were cultures in this world that never got the message about Jesus or Mohammed, etc.? Why do most people in these faiths want to try and convince you that they are right and you are wrong?

I believe in God because someone had to create us. Gases just don't appear and combust to form the Universe. I believe Jesus is my savior (not our savior) because of his teachings of Love Thy Neighbor and Do Unto Others. Do I think he was the son of God? I don't know. I mean I am me, and my father is my father, but I am not my father. God created life, God created Mary, yet Mary is the Mother of God?

My beliefs on Heaven and Hell: All people will go to Heaven, unless they have sinned and show no remorse. I feel Hitler could be in Heaven right now, because my God is a loving and forgiving God. And who are we to argue with God if Hitler is there?

This is not to offend people or to start arguments. I especially do not want people to reply to tell me I'm wrong. Tell me what you believe and we can have a good conversation. Faith is for each individual to decide what works best for them. As long as you have faith, because what else will get you through the hard times.

Peace to all!


Well said! If everyone says that one should follow his religion to get redumption or go to heaven, what about other living things? Do the dogs and the buffellows not go to heaven?

You get what you pay for! Your good deeds will take you to the Paradise. In fact, when we go to the Heaven, we will see only innocent beings, not Christians, Muslims, Jews or people of any religion for that matter! God does not discriminate among religions. If one says that his is the best religion, then he is no more than an atheist!

As far as Mary being the mother of God, here's how I understand this.

God created Mary. Mary is human. God put His Spirit in Mary and she conceived. Jesus is fully human and fully God at the same time. That is how He was able to bridge the gap for us and make a way to God.

Religion exists because people are uncomfortable with uncertainty. Any group that proports to have all the answers to the big questions of life will attract people who ask those questions but are too uncomfortable to say they JUST DON'T KNOW and probably never will.

Religious people need to believe they are right, because their religion is their way to answer those daunting questions of meaning, purpose, existence, etc. So if they don't believe totally and completely that they are totally and completely right, the role of religion in their lives is completely defeated.

And why do they work so hard to convince others that their way is the right way? *shrug* I mean, they'll say, and possibly even believe, it's because their belief has brought them peace and comfort and happiness, and they just want to share it. But realistically, there's power in numbers. The more people who agree with you, the more right you feel. And that then brings more peace, comfort and happiness because another person agrees with you so this MUST be true!

It is not only in religion that individuals feel they are right.

Its in politics [ conservatives, liberals ]

Sports [ kobe bryant is the best, no steve nash is... ]

In music [ rappers talking of other rappers for example ]

In universities [ Ward churchill for example ]

In automobiles [ Ford vs Chevy for exmple ]

In marriage [ sorry , bad example, the wife is always right :) ]

etc..


But Christians are to believe in the Biblical standard. Without standards and absolute truths it is man made. Read, educate yourself, discuss, but most importantly believe, trust, live it through a personal relationship with the Savior.





Grace and peace

"But Christians are to believe in the Biblical standard. Without standards and absolute truths it is man made."

Ohhhhh man. But belief in the bible as a standard and absolute truth is a belief held by one particular religion… who's to say that there IS an absolute truth? Adherence to Biblical standards as the 'right' way is a perspective applicable to those who consider the Bible to be the word of God… which includes Christians only…

Basically, it seems that you're presenting all other types of situations in which individuals believe they are always right, and saying that neither really are, they all just have their own opinions and THINK they are right. And they want to convince everyone else of that due to what I mentioned before… the more people who agree with you, the more confident you are that you know what you're talking about and really are right… strength in numbers.

But then, in the case of Christianity, as we all have access to the Bible, which is the be-all-and-end-all truth, those who disagree… well, they're just wrong! Everything else is a matter of opinion, except for that which is disclosed in the Bible- because it's there in black and white and is an 'absolute truth'- and since we've all been told the Bible is the word of god, then hey! It IS the word of God, and it's just inarguable fact… right?

To say that 'without standards and absolute truth it is man made' is to say that the Bible WITHOUT QUESTION contains the absolute truth. And so Christians are entitled to believe that they are right, and it's acceptable to attempt to convert others to their perspective, because they are the only ones who accept the absolute truth of the Bible as God's word. Since they have the TRUTH, then obviously they have the RIGHT to force it upon others… and with this perspective, I can easily foresee another crusade in our future. Scary.

My belief is that the Bible is man-made. Maybe parts, or hell (oops... I mean 'heck'), even all if it, were 'inspired' by some divine source out there somewhere... for your comfort, we can call it god. But the Bible was not written BY god. It was written by people. It is a combination of many individuals' interpretation of what they thought god was trying to communicate. And, if Christians believe we are all imperfect beings, made in god's image but flawed by sin, then how can they presume that an imperfect person could comprehend, grasp, and communicate what an all-powerful god wants/thinks/feels/expects of humanity, and transcribe it with any accuracy or certainty? And it is entirely absurd to believe that human beliefs, prejudices, biases, agendas and ideas were not in any way integrated into this book… let's be realistic!

Not to mention translation after translation from language to language- don't you think that impacts anything? And the way that scholars still debate over interpretations and translation and meaning…

I can't put much stock in a book that has gone through so many people, so many hands, so many translations, and is still debated over today… and live my life based on the 'standards' I personally believe it presents- (because with all the debate around certain translations and interpretations of the Bible, you still have to ultimately choose what YOU take from it and what you don't). And all that really is, honestly, is another way that people are looking for justification for their beliefs and reinforcement that they are right- Because they have a HOLY BOOK to back them up now, and it's from GOD HIMSELF!!

So if there's strength in numbers, then imagine how confident you can be in your beliefs being the only ones that are valid when you have the WRITTEN backing of God!

I understand that this is what Christians believe, and I'm not trying to be judgmental- you believe you're right, and why wouldn't you? If you're going to believe something, then you're not going to believe it and base your life around it if you think that you might be wrong… which is why I don't follow any one religion or make any definitive statements about the existence or nature of a god that I can't validate without doubt. 'Faith' is just not my thing, and I feel like it's an easy out when we hit a question that has no answer, or an answer that just doesn't make sense, but we're tired of searching.

But please don't present it in this way, it is condescending… to draw up a comparison of all other situations in which people think they're right, and in all those cases it's a matter of opinion… but then when it comes to religion, to say that Christians have absolute truth, they have the Bible to back their beliefs, their religion is not man-made… so they obviously have the upper hand in the realm of the 'who's right, who's wrong' debate that's been going on for ages.

Not cool. So please stop it.

Margog 85


"Since they have the TRUTH, then obviously they have the RIGHT to force it upon others… and with this perspective, I can easily foresee another crusade in our future. Scary."

-- there is no force, everybody has free choice.


I understand that this is what Christians believe, and I'm not trying to be judgmental- you believe you're right, and why wouldn't you?

-- "judgmental" - what was your whole post about?

"But please don't present it in this way, it is condescending… to draw up a comparison of all other situations in which people think they're right, and in all those cases it's a matter of opinion… but then when it comes to religion, to say that Christians have absolute truth, they have the Bible to back their beliefs, their religion is not man-made… so they obviously have the upper hand in the realm of the 'who's right, who's wrong' debate that's been going on for ages.

Not cool. So please stop it."


Please stop what? Believing what I do, or expressing my opinion, or belief's?

If you do not believe what Christians believe, that is your choice.

You like Ford , I like Chevy or vice versa, that's cool.




Grace and peace

I did not intend to indicate that YOU personally were trying to force anything upon anyone, even though your post did come across that way. If I misinterpreted your post, then I apologize. I can say from experience, however, that a fair number of Christians (and hey, lump my parents into that bunch as well so no one feels I'm blindly attacking anonymous people… they do it too!) feel it is their Christian duty to 'evangelize'- and if that just meant sharing their beliefs and engaging in intellectual debate, and then leaving people the freedom to decide on their own without condescendingly telling them that they'll 'pray for them to someday find the truth'… that would be fine. But to hound people, walk up to people on the street and tell them that they are going to hell and hand them a pamphlet with all the details of how they can save their souls… I'm sorry, but that IS judgmental and disrespectful, that IS forceful and pushy… and while I have a choice, and everyone has a choice… if people believe that it is RIGHT to be forceful, because it is what they believe and they believe their way is the only way, that is a dangerous thing. The Holocaust. The Crusades. Devastating results.

And my post was not judgmental- I was stating my beliefs, and why I feel it is not right for another to push their beliefs upon me. I never once stated that Christians are wrong- I simply pointed out what I believe to be flawed logic within the structure of Christian religious beliefs and what I see as an over-dependence on the Bible. If it was perceived to be a judgment against Christians, again, I apologize for that. But my 'entire post' was not judgmental or about judging anyone. When you make the statement, 'Read, educate yourself, discuss, but most importantly believe, trust, live it through a personal relationship with the Savior', that comes across as condescending- that people need to read and educate themselves, and then come to the conclusion that they NEED to trust, and have a personal relationship with Jesus because 'that is the most important thing'- to Christians, perhaps. But since you didn't qualify your statement in that way, it came across as preachy and pushy.

If this was not your intent, then I apologize for understanding it in this way and then proceeding in a response based on a misunderstanding. But also try to understand that in a forum where we are expressing our ideas and thoughts in writing, clarity and proper wording of what you are trying to express is essential... and by the way your response was worded, it gave off that impression.

And lastly… please don't take on the role of a victim or martyr. I'm not attacking you, I'm not trying to tell you not to believe what you do. You wrote… 'Please stop what? Believing what I do, or expressing my opinion, or belief's?' But why oh why was this 'question' necessary? I explained exactly what I asked to be stopped:

'But please don't present it in this way, it is condescending… to draw up a comparison of all other situations in which people think they're right, and in all those cases it's a matter of opinion… but then when it comes to religion, to say that Christians have absolute truth, they have the Bible to back their beliefs, their religion is not man-made… so they obviously have the upper hand in the realm of the 'who's right, who's wrong' debate that's been going on for ages.'

I asked you to stop presenting your religion in a way that is condescending to those of other beliefs, setting up a list of topics in which people think there is a 'right' and 'wrong' belief when there's really not, and then bringing in Christianity as something totally different from those other examples because, apparently, based on your presentation of your statement, Christianity really IS the right thing, and people just don't know it… and then stating that 'the important thing' is to believe in Jesus. Say that to YOU, or to CHRISTIANS, the important thing is to believe in Jesus. But don't make a blanket statement like that. It's not important to me, so don't assume it is!

That's all I asked you to stop doing, and not just you personally, but all Christians and… hey, all religious people in general. I am plenty comfortable with an exchange of ideas and statements about what people believe, whether I agree or not. So don't put words into my mouth as though I asked you to change your beliefs or not talk about them. That, my friend, is a silly thing to say.

Obviously if I did not believe in open communication, I would not have posted in this forum to begin with.

I quit taking part in these kinds of "discussions" because no matter what is said, it invariably ticks someone else off and then goes the fight.

But I will answer this question you had - if you had never heard about salvation in Christ, never had it preached, been ministered to in any fashion, you are not responsible. You have to hear the Word before even being able to accept it and you have to accept it before even being saved. We will all be surprised when we meet God. But I will disagree with you about Hitler. While God could forgive him, as far as anyone knows, Hitler always believed he was right with a capital R.

No one is right and no one is wrong. Everyone is intitled to his or her opinion. Come on just leave it at that guys... ;)

Man oh man-
Okay, for the record, I'm not saying I'm right and anyone else is wrong.
I'm not being judgmental.
I'm not telling people they can't say what they think or believe, and I'm not telling anyone to change what they believe.
Okay? Good. Now, let's move on...

margog85:

I am sorry. I did not intend to offend you. :(




Grace and Peace

inthebox

Don't worry about it.

All is well.

:)

One of the reasons I'm so happy as a Jew is that Judaism doesn't say that Judaism is right for everyone -- just right for those who are Jews.

Judaism is a tribal religion like Shintoism and Hinduism. Their God was the god of that tribal people, and that people alone.

Those who founded and established Christianity and Islam borrowed the Jewish God and added embellishments to fit their various agendas. Then, these religions were, an are, spread by proselitizing... any ethnic group or individual can be a Muslim or a Christian merely by conversion. They are universal religions, so to speak.

Judaism is a tribal religion like Shintoism and Hinduism. Their God was the god of that tribal people, and that people alone.

Those who founded and established Christianity and Islam borrowed the Jewish God and added embellishments to fit their various agendas. Then, these religions were, an are, spread by proselitizing... any ethnic group or individual can be a Muslim or a Christian merely by conversion. They are universal religions, so to speak.

Personally I take a lot of effort to stay away from these tyes of discussions as much as possible. Please don't ask me why I am doing this, maybe a moment of weakness I guess.

I was forced fed religion when I was young and I grew to resent it somewhat. But I do not hold a grudge against my family for this. As I entered school and evolution issues arose I was even more emotionally twisted. Some years ago when my 8 week old daughter was baptized I asked our Methodist pastor to come to dinner; I had some questions.

I found him to be a very educated person and his view was a refreshing one that I hadn't heard before. I won't bore you with all this, there were many questions, but an example was; Why all this pomp and circumstance?

He asked me; "I bet you were raised to not even put something like a glass on top of the Bible?" I told him yes and that was a good point, I somehow had a problem with things like this. He took the Bible and threw it on the floor and looked at me; I quess my eyes were wide open? He said, "what's the matter?" I said I thought that he shouldn't have done that.

He told me, there is no benefit to being a fanatic about anything, that will not get you into heaven only who you are and the deeds you do or don't do (bad things I suppose). He said that the Bible was only paper with words on them. Symbols and gagets are not necessary, only that you believe that basically doing good is the road to your personal peace.

There was a lot more that we discussed and it was many years ago. Sometimes I wonder how he is doing? But they say that when you need the answers you seek that a special person will come into your life to help, he did.

Well, to finish up here, I basically try to live my life by trying not to intentionly hurt, harm or take overt or consealed advantage of anyone. And this has allowed me to gain some form of peace and move toward my basic goal of being happy. I am happy but I want to experience being really happy, what a feeling that must be.

I think that in some instances formal religion has been corrupted by persons seeking to take advantage and control. I think the primary principles of most all religions are good, people change and manipulate things.

And I believe that mankind needs to believe that there is someone or something in charge. "We can't be responsible for everything that we do, can we? There has to be a bad or negitive force that made me do it-right?"

People want to be lead.

Please don't judge me by the few words I posted here, I am more complex. That would be like a caveman somehow finding matches and using them to only pick his teeth.
Stringer

No harsh words here- just commendation. :D

I also was raised in a religious family- Roman Catholic. As I was growing up, my mother was pursuing her Masters in Theology- so the hour ride home from the Seminary consisted of her regurgitation of all she had learned that evening in class. Very interesting stuff.

Despite my previous posts where I stated that I personally don't feel religious affiliation is a necessity in my own life, I do truly appreciate those who, like you, question things. You come to whatever conclusion suit you regarding your religious beliefs, and I am in no position to cast judgment. I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe. That's the beauty about religion, in my mind- there are no right answers.

Questioning is so often frowned upon. It's often construed as something along the lines of 'if you doubt your faith, you doubt your God, who loves you unconditionally... how dare you, you dumb bastard!' lol :p

A lot of what always irritated me about Catholics was their ignorance to parts of the religion which, when you know a little, make it so beautiful. But they don't care to know that. They know that if they go to church and can stand, sit, and kneel at the right time, they're 'good Catholics'. They recite prayers as though they are in some sort of eerie trance. They know when to respond, and do so in unison as though completely brainwashed. And watching that, knowing that so few, if any, of the people there have ever gone any deeper than this cult-ish routine... it's truly frightening.

And just so no one thinks I'm generalizing based on any sort of prejudice against Catholics or Christians, I'm not making assumptions in regard to their understanding of the mass or prayers or where specific traditions come from. I used to be heavily involved in the Youth Ministry at my parish, both as a participant and as a youth leader. I interacted with other youth leaders, parents, teens, children, and even those EMPLOYED BY THE CHURCH to facilitate programs. NONE of whom had any solid understanding of their 'faith'.

For some, 'faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.' For others, it is an easy out when they are asked questions they haven't the motivation to seek answers to, but they still want the security of a religion to cling to so that they don't feel so alone in this world. They don't know or understand- so they say they believe these unexplainable things because they just 'have to keep the faith'. Thus my statement about there being 'strength in numbers' and that's why people try to recruit for their particular religion- their uncertainty is pacified with the illusive mantra of 'just have faith' and they try to bring others into their uncertainty by this 'faith' so that they are more comfortable in it.

Not sure who said it, possibly a saint or theologian... I'm thinking Augustine... but I've always liked it: "Faith that does not doubt is dead."

In my own life, I've found it much simpler and genuine to live without religion. I feel I cannot truly understand the nature of god, or whatever that superior being might be, if it even exists... but the purpose of my life is not to continuously seek for that which I will likely never find. I feel my purpose is to be HERE, NOW, present to those around me and doing good in small ways that touch other people's lives. So many people get caught up in adhering to what their interpretation of the Bible deems 'right' and 'wrong', they forget about the human aspect of life that Jesus embraced totally, based on Biblical records of his life.

Dining with tax collectors, rescuing prostitutes from those who are so quick to pass judgment, and flipping tables in the temple- how many of today's 'Christians' follow in the footsteps of the Biblical Jesus?

Just my honest opinion, and my way of approaching life- to each his own, and that's mine.

Also, I've heard an analogy once that I would like to share here... for the person who initially asked the question regarding all religions believing they are right and why... fact of the matter is, in my opinion, no one has all the answers. Each religion has something to offer, and should all participate in the conversation of 'who is god' if that's what they're all trying to figure out. Rather than all insisting they have it down pat and have all the answers, conversation and communication and discussion would lead them all closer to any hope of reaching a well-rounded understanding of whatever may or may not be out there. Anyway- the analogy is this-

Look at your hand. You've got the palm of your hand in the center, and from the palm of your hand extends five fingers. Each finger looks different from the others and serves a different purpose to make the hand useful to you as a whole. But despite their differences, each finger is equally a part of the hand. If you only look at one finger, you cannot understand what your hand is for in it's entirety. If you only utilize one finger your entire life, you will have a very acute understanding of how that finger works and all that it can do. It has been useful to you and allowed you to accomplish things you could not have possibly accomplished without it. But what happens when you finally realize that ALL of your fingers are part of the hand? Your world opens up, there is so much more you can do- had you continued your whole life utilizing only one finger, you would have been thankful for it, but never really understood what your hand was all about.

Well, the same goes for religion. God is (or should be!) at the center of all religions- the palm of the hand. Each religion is a different way of understanding god- the fingers- each of them important and necessary. And though they may have their differences, they are all reaching for the same understanding, seeking the same enlightenment, trying to achieve the same end- they are all connected to God and all equal in their significance and importance- just as each finger is connected to the hand and equal in significance and importance. If you are raised in only one religion your entire life, you've got it down pat- you know it, understand it, and are comfortable with it. But if you don't broaden your view to encompass the whole of the world's varying experiences and understandings of god (THE WHOLE HAND) then you are limiting yourself unnecessarily. You may be thankful for the religious beliefs you currently have, as you wouldn't be where you are now without them. But until you step back and look at the beauty in all religion, the beauty in everyone's and every culture's and every religion's search for god, then you are missing out on what god is really all about.

It's not just about finding one way. It's about knowing that there are many ways, and appreciating that all of those ways and all of the people on those varying paths are moving in the same direction- to an understanding of what they call God, Allah, Jahova, Yaweh...

Actually it's not the religions that think they're right. It's the adherents and the way they interpret them. Many a Christian I know say the Bible is against philosophy (love of wisdom) for example. Reading the quote they supplied I found it a warning about false philosophy, i.e. that masquerading as it and not against philosophy itself. Same I found re religion. He'll Jesus applauds a Roman centurion aboth those who claim to profess the faith. At the time of writing the centurian would likely have been a Mithraic if he was an historical person. Btw, Mithraism is quite a bit older than Christianity and yet it mirrors Christ in details

All Religions have there bad apples. Christianity has a few preachers that tell people they going to hell because they don't believe jesus was, as bible says the son of man and son of god. I'm a Baptist (sect of christianity) If a person worships god and believes Jesus a prophet as muslims do, they should not be attacked or judged for the way they worship god. In the bible it says to love your neibor as our self. I realize that is never easy for anyone, but our future as species will depend on rather we can learn to accept other people's views (even though we my not agree with them.) Satan wants to fight and bicker until we destroy ourselves. We must resist the temptations he sets for us. The abrahamic religions must unite and show god's love to the world.

I struggle with kind of stuff daily as we all do, look to god for help.

I view all the religions as right insofar as their doctrine goes. However none are the be all and end all of the teachings so to speak. None of their doctrines denounce the other religions. Only man does that. Now here's an interesting Q for some to consider. What if the religious teachings weren't meant to be taken literally? ;)

How many of you are simply repeating teachings that have been passed down from others and do not really know the truth for yourselves.
How many of you have directly spoken to spirits. Spoken with the one known as Jesus? How many of you have assisted trapped spirits (ghosts) ascend into the light (heaven). It is this way that you find the truth, not repeating stories of old that have been corrupted by those who would control others.
The Christian religion, as well as the Muslim religion as well as the Ku Klux Klan, are organizations created by man for their own specific human purposes and cloaked with a claim of divinity.
In all of the acceptances into the light that I have assisted hundreds with, never has there been a requirement to be of a certain religion. Never has Jesus or Mohammed been required. And also never has one been denied that was sincere in requesting admission. Some assistance from this side is required but it has absolutely nothing to do with what group they belong to. Would you favor one of your children over the others just because they joined a particular club. Do you really think the creator of all of this is that simple minded? My questions are not condemnations of you or your chosen belief systems, they are just a simple suggestion to quiet your mind and ask your own heart for what is the truth. And does it lie in the organizations to which you belong, or does the Kingdom lie within? I stand in humble respect of your time involved in reading this response. And I do not ask you to be converted, or to join my organization and contribute tithes and offerings to God (but send it to my address). No, be weary of those tactics. I only ask you to stop and think ! Love and Light to all of you and all of yours.