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Curly B
Aug 10, 2007, 09:54 AM
I need info from anyone who has had to deal with biting mites on their body and in their home.. I think they are called 'Black Pepper mites'... Help

inthebox
Aug 11, 2007, 06:40 AM
Is this what you are referring to?


Harvest mite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_mite)




Grace and Peace

J_9
Aug 11, 2007, 06:43 AM
I am not entirely sure what you are talking about. Do you have pets? Could it be fleas? Bed bugs maybe?

When checking Google for "black pepper mites" I came across both fleas and bed bugs.

Curly B
Aug 11, 2007, 07:14 AM
No not fleas or bedbugs... these are mites and get into everything. Click on this link for the info:

Biting Mites - Kleen Green Enzymes - Natural Ginesis (http://www.naturalginesis.com/info_bitingmites.html)

Chery
Aug 11, 2007, 07:34 AM
The humand and animal host has many 'guests' and these are not new.

The enzyme in the link you provided is probably not a bad idea, but there is an enzyme already on the market that can also do the job, it is Quick & Brite. This is super biodegradeable and can be used to wash body and hair - it just is not as 'fragrant' as the expensive stuff.

I am not a sponsor for the product, but I have used it since I found it approximately 20 years ago.

I use this dissolved with water to clean Simba's ears (my daughter's cat), and then I place a few drops of olive oil to protect the cleaned ears from further sudden invasion.

It has been proven that if you wash the body's natural bacteria away too much and don't 'grease' it after the soapy invasion, the body is vulnerable to harsher invasions from all types of mites that are in the household.
So, my suggestion is to try a body lotion right after scrubbing for protection.

Hope this helps.

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Curly B
Aug 11, 2007, 07:47 AM
I have been fighting this invasion for 8 months . I provided that link because it explains what these things are: I have been to 3 Doctors who had no idea as to what I was talking about.. one told me I was obsessing.. in the meantime I am bothered all the time by this.. in my clothes ,my sheets, my car... the product Kleen Green has really helped.. where do I find the product you suggested? By the way, I have no pets.. I think I picked this up trying clothes on in a discount store.:mad:

Makroni
Aug 22, 2007, 07:09 PM
I have been fighting this invasion for 8 months . I provided that link because it explains what these things are: I have been to 3 Doctors who had no idea as to what I was talking about.. one told me I was obsessing.. in the meantime I am bothered all the time by this..in my clothes ,my sheets, my car... the product Kleen Green has really helped .. where do I find the product you suggested? by the way, I have no pets.. I think I picked this up trying clothes on in a discount store.:mad:
I have this same thing in my home too. I been searhing all over the internet and no one really seems to know what to do. These things are so small you can't see them, they infest you rug, clothing, bed and they bite like hell. At least the ones I encountered do, we may not be taking about the same thing. Also, they seem to be able to move through the fiber of clothing and bite. I tried sleeping once completely covered and within a matter of minutes could feel them on my skin. If I stand barefoot on my rug, I can feel them crawling up my leg. The only way I've been able to get a good nights sleep is to spay the rug around the bed with insecticide then spay the mattress with insecticide (non-odor), cover it up good after and hour or so and then spray the sheets, covers, pajamas, and myself with rubbing alcohol. I also turn on my air and fan to make sure the room is well ventilated. The next day, the same thing all over again. Don't know what to do.

Makroni
Aug 22, 2007, 07:26 PM
No not fleas or bedbugs.....these are mites and get into everything. click on this link for the info:

Biting Mites - Kleen Green Enzymes - Natural Ginesis (http://www.naturalginesis.com/info_bitingmites.html)

Curly? Did you try the Kleen Green? Did it do help at all?

Curly B
Aug 23, 2007, 05:28 AM
Makroni
There are several websites that give good info. Use Sulfur Soap to wash up in the shower... Selson Blue shampoo... Kleen Green has helped me... there is Kleen Free and then the newer version Kleen Green.. I buy the concentrate 32 oz bottle and I fill spray bottles following the instructions and keep them all over the house and one in my car.. I use the spray on everything and it does not stain.. cover your mattress with a plastic cover.. I got mine at Wal-Mart.. wash your clothes and sheets with Borax or detergent and add 2 cups ammonia in each load.. these bugs love cotton or natural fabric. Go to the Kleen Green website to find out more mite info.

vib
May 15, 2008, 08:59 PM
Oh my goodness. I have been battling these guys since we went camping in the summer. I thought they were lice, but there were no nits. I used at least 10 different types of pesticides and natural products, I would be clear for maybe a few hours - then I could feel them again. I went to the doctor also, who sent me to a specialist who thought I was imagining them because he couldn't see any legs. I didn't have very many then. I have had them under my nails, in my ears, in my nose (I see them when I blow my nose). I definitely know they are in my car and I see them on my clothes. I can feel them crawl on my face and if a use a wet kleenex to wipe where I feel them I always see little black specks. I would appreciate any help because My home is very infested and I can't possibly vacuum, scrub, and launder anymore!! I have ordered KleenGreen and I will let you all know how it turns out.

Curly B
May 16, 2008, 06:49 AM
Vib
I just got your post... this is the beginning of a disease known as Morgellons... there are people everywhere that have it.. it is a bacteria or fungus that gets into the body if your immune system is not up to par.. then these mites are attracked to you and that is why you can have it and other members of the family do not.. Use the Kleen Green spray on you and all over your home and car and clothes..
Change your diet.. eliminate sugar and build up your immune system with every vitamin that helps it. I drink bottled water with lemon juice in it all day long.. this gets rid of the acidity in your body and makes it more alkaline which is what you want. In other words bring up your PH level.. I bought some books on it and followed the advice and felt better..
Join the website LYMEBUSTERS.COM it is scary when you start reading some of the things that have happened to other people because of this.. the CDC is now doing a study on Morgellons.. Florida is a hot spot for it as is California, I was living in Florida and started with the symptoms when I moved back to New England.
The info on the lymebusters website is very helpful.. I tried a new body cream that a member told me to use and I have had great success... Neoteric Diabetic skin care
Oxygenated advanced healing cream.. Target has it and so does Walgreen's... it worked so good... I put it all over my body after a bath at night and shower in am.. my scalp is the worst which is common.. lesions now and fibers started 6 months ago.. Read up on this.. if you are informed you can handle it better.. please keep in touch... Curly B

Olivedrab
May 17, 2008, 03:11 PM
Oh my goodness. I have been battling these guys since we went camping in the summer. I thought they were lice, but there were no nits. I used at least 10 different types of pesticides and natural products, I would be clear for maybe a few hours - then I could feel them again. I went to the doctor also, who sent me to a specialist who thought I was imagining them because he couldn't see any legs. I didn't have very many then. I have had them under my nails, in my ears, in my nose (I see them when I blow my nose). I definately know they are in my car and I see them on my clothes. I can feel them crawl on my face and if a use a wet kleenex to wipe where I feel them I always see little black specks. I would appreciate any help because My home is very infested and I can't possibly vacuum, scrub, and launder anymore!!!! I have ordered KleenGreen and I will let you all know how it turns out.
This sounds like bird mites or tropical rat mites. Check out the birdmites.org website.
I think it's important to find out which mite you're dealing with.

VMaggie
Nov 17, 2008, 03:08 AM
Dear Curly,

Please tell me how you know that Black Pepper Mites are related to Morgellons?? :confused: I live in a small desert community in California and out of 80 people there are 4 definite cases and I see the signs on others yet to be diagnosed. Strange thing about my case is about 17 years ago I received multiple notes from my daughters school stating she had lice. She was treated several times and I was vigilant with the laundry. She suddenly developed other symptoms, fatigue, intestinal issues, loss of appetite and so on. All these are cause for alarm when you're talking about a previously very active 9 year old girl. I had the same thing. A nurse friend of mine told me to take her to the hospital and have her evaluated for a "Parasitic Infection" I did. And this is what scares me. They said we were being attacked by lint! This was long before there was any info on Morgellons available. They then put me in the psychiatric ward and put my daughter in a foster home. It took me three years to get her back! I've never complained again. My symptoms are back worse than ever now. I can't keep up with the laundry, scrubbing and cleaning either. I would be interested in your opinion of the products available. God Bless you and keep you. May we all find some relief soon. Keep in touch.

Maggie

rstmetal
Nov 19, 2008, 06:47 PM
Dear Curly,

Please tell me how you know that Black Pepper Mites are related to Morgellons???:confused: I live in a small desert community in California and out of 80 people there are 4 definite cases and I see the signs on others yet to be diagnosed. Strange thing about my case is about 17 years ago I received multiple notes from my daughters school stating she had lice. She was treated several times and I was vigilant with the laundry. She suddenly developed other symptoms, fatigue, intestinal issues, loss of appetite and so on. All these are cause for alarm when you're talking about a previously very active 9 year old girl. I had the same thing. A nurse friend of mine told me to take her to the hospital and have her evaluated for a "Parasitic Infection" I did. And this is what scares me. They said we were being attacked by lint! This was long before there was any info on Morgellons available. They then put me in the psychiatric ward and put my daughter in a foster home. It took me three years to get her back! I've never complained again. My symptoms are back worse than ever now. I can't keep up with the laundry, scrubbing and cleaning either. I would be interested in your opinion of the products available. God Bless you and keep you. May we all find some relief soon. Keep in touch.

Maggie
I recently started having the same issues, at first I thought the problem was because of fleas, but it just wasn't adding up. I decided to try KleenFree after doing some searching, and then I found this thread, I'm really dreading going through what everyone has. I'll be following this closely, Good Luck All

VMaggie
Nov 20, 2008, 04:47 PM
I recently started having the same issues, at first I thought the problem was because of fleas, but it just wasn't adding up. I decided to try KleenFree after doing some searching, and then I found this thread, I'm really dreading going through what everyone has. I'll be following this closely, Good Luck All

I had also looked at KleenFree and I am planning to order some in the near future. I am already on disability and money is short. The cost of trying to deal with this is steep! Whatever this is, it just seems to get worse.

I (and Artie, my dog) have resorted to "living" in my minivan. It's a little more comfortable than the house. At least a little easier to breathe in. I am seriously worried about Artie. He seems to be having respiratory problems in addition too the "Attack of lint" in his fur. We've had to watch the fur between the pad on his paws too. We are constantly removing excess "lint" and when we do the skin underneath is extremely sore. The first time I discovered this the skin was actually bloody. He has been "off his feed" and lethargic too. Please keep in touch and let me know how you are doing.

I have been researching home remedies and herbal cures for the symptoms. :)Personally, I found two things that helped with my hair and the itching. One was cold milk on a cloth, dabbed on the skin gave much needed relief from the itching. And listerine applied to the hair and scalp and then combed out seem to remove quite a bit of debris as well as calmed the itching. :(Tea tree oil does absolutely nothing!

:D Heads Up Everyone!! Harvard University is doing research and you can submit samples of what is biting you for evaluation for only 20.00!!! There is a deadine 1/12/2009 For additional information go to Accessing Headlice Information Sheet (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/headlice) Hell it's worth a try!!

Take care everyone! Good luck! Maggie

VMaggie
Nov 20, 2008, 04:50 PM
I had also looked at KleenFree and I am planning to order some in the near future. I am already on disability and money is short. The cost of trying to deal with this is steep! Whatever this is, it just seems to get worse.

I (and Artie, my dog) have resorted to "living" in my minivan. It's a little more comfortable than the house. At least a little easier to breathe in. I am seriously worried about Artie. He seems to be having respiratory problems in addition too the "Attack of lint" in his fur. We've had to watch the fur between the pad on his paws too. We are constantly removing excess "lint" and when we do the skin underneath is extremely sore. The first time I discovered this the skin was actually bloody. He has been "off his feed" and lethargic too. Please keep in touch and let me know how you are doing.

I have been researching home remedies and herbal cures for the symptoms. :)Personally, I found two things that helped with my hair and the itching. One was cold milk on a cloth, dabbed on the skin gave much needed relief from the itching. And listerine applied to the hair and scalp and then combed out seem to remove quite a bit of debris as well as calmed the itching. :(Tea tree oil does absolutely nothing!

:D Heads Up Everyone!! Harvard University is doing research and you can submit samples of what is biting you for evaluation for only 20.00!!! There is a deadine 1/12/2009 For additional information go to Accessing Headlice Information Sheet (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/headlice) Hell it's worth a try!!

Take care everyone! Good luck! Maggie

Sorry the website is: Accessing Headlice Information Sheet (http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/headlice)

VMaggie
Nov 20, 2008, 04:53 PM
I must be doing something wrong here! I cannot get the website address to print in this post! Go to Harvard's website and search for Headlouse evaluation Request Form

mitzipars
Oct 24, 2010, 05:31 PM
I am dealing with the fruit rat mites as well (since I made history of their host). I have not found any thing that has rid my home yet. However, I do use De Flea Pet & Bedding Spray (natural). It seems to kill the ones that are on me and on the furniture at the moment. But does not rid you of the others and any new ones which I gather is hatching from old ones.

I do know that if you find the nest (which if in an attic good luck with insulation), you must get it out. But you still have to deal with the ones that left the nest and came in your home. Now wondering if the little guy needed to die. I am SERIOUSLY considering buying me a rat and letting it lose in the attic!

MParsons

mitzipars
Oct 29, 2010, 04:59 AM
They are similar to bed bugs. But I believe these are Pepper Mites.

mitzipars
Oct 29, 2010, 05:07 AM
These are very close. However, another characteristic I have noticed is when you happen upon them (you can't see them), they seem to release something that affects your breathing. It is like a powder almost but too late once you come upon it.

debbiemurphy
Apr 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
I had the same problem, to a tee, as what you are describing. My washing machine wa running all day long, I was living in a "pesticide" house since I had to spray everything, all day (and night) It finally got so bad that I started wearing plasic bags on my legs and actually spraying bug poison on me and my clotehes (NOT a good idea!) I am very allergic to insect bites. I had open sores all over my body from the itching and the fact that the bite area swell 200 % . Any bite I get takes at least 3 months to heal and I have been left with horrible scars all over my body. I tried everything I heard about but nothing worked and I was at my wits end. I couldn't sleep any more due to the intense pain of the bites. And then it happened! I DISCOVERED HOW TO GET RID OF THEM! It's VERY cheap, you do it yourself, and it's 100 % safe! (no harmful chemicals) Best of all, it actually Does work. Just go to your supermarket and pick up a box of Mule Team Borax or two, depending on the size of your home, and apply a thin layer on all floors, mattresses, laundry room, couches, etc.. etc.. Then, sit back and wait 2 to 3 weeks (mine were gone after 2 weeks, but I waited 3, just to be sure.) THEN, vacuum. That's it! You will have to put up with the inconvenience of living with white powder on everything, but that was nothing compared to the horror of living with these pests! I have no stake or interest in the Mule Team company. I am not making a dime. I have been pest free for a little under 3 years now, although I do still leave powder out in hidden places such as under the couch, under sinks, etc.. I wanted to share with others this secret I found because I know how horrible it truly is. So take a chance and try it. You will only be out 5 or 10 dollars! Oh, the reason this works (for fleas too) is beause they can't get immune to it. It burns their legs off when they come in contact with it. Bed bugs are the worse about being immune to all the poisons out there. This also works great for roaches! Good Luck to you and have a great, bug free, day!

mitzipars
Apr 9, 2012, 05:27 AM
Thank you. I have 20 mule but am concern for my pets.

mitzipars
Apr 9, 2012, 05:28 AM
And I use straight boric acid for under sinks and appliances and such. That is the active ingredient.

uri72ah
Apr 24, 2012, 05:09 PM
I have had the same problem invisible biting mites for a couple of years: the biggest problem is that you are unable to discuss it with the medical profession who have arrogantly decided a lack of visible evidence equates with no evidence.
Like all above I have not found the answer however I am wondering about a American vacuum cleaner `Rainbow' I think it's called which cleverly filters any impurities it picks up through water - one of the problems with existing vacuums is that as soon as you attempt to empty them you release this vermin back into the air.
Has anyone used one of these machines -which sadly ain't cheap- and with what if any success - it would be helpful to know before incurring this high cost?

I note too most of these entries are up to 2/3 years old has anyone had the good fortune to find the answer since?

uri72ah
Apr 24, 2012, 05:32 PM
I had the same problem, to a tee, as what you are describing. My washing machine wa running all day long, I was living in a "pesticide" house since I had to spray everything, all day (and night) It finally got so bad that i started wearing plasic bags on my legs and actually spraying bug poison on me and my clotehes (NOT a good idea!) I am very allergic to insect bites. I had open sores all over my body from the itching and the fact that the bite area swell 200 % . Any bite i get takes at least 3 months to heal and I have been left with horrible scars all over my body. I tried everything I heard about but nothing worked and I was at my wits end. I couldnt sleep any more due to the intense pain of the bites. And then it happened! I DISCOVERED HOW TO GET RID OF THEM! It's VERY cheap, you do it yourself, and it's 100 % safe! (no harmful chemicals) Best of all, it actually Does work. Just go to your supermarket and pick up a box of Mule Team Borax or two, depending on the size of your home, and apply a thin layer on all floors, mattresses, laundry room, couches, etc.. etc.. Then, sit back and wait 2 to 3 weeks (mine were gone after 2 weeks, but I waited 3, just to be sure.) THEN, vaccum. Thats it! You will have to put up with the inconvenience of living with white powder on everything, but that was nothing compared to the horror of living with these pests! I have no stake or interest in the Mule Team company. I am not making a dime. I have been pest free for a little under 3 years now, although i do still leave powder out in hidden places such as under the couch, under sinks, etc.. I wanted to share with others this secret i found because i know how horrible it truly is. So take a chance and try it. You will only be out 5 or 10 dollars! Oh, the reason this works (for fleas too) is beause they can't get immune to it. It burns their legs off when they come in contact with it. Bed bugs are the worse about being immune to all the poisons out there. This also works great for roaches! Good Luck to you and have a great, bug free, day!
This is truly exciting if it works as you say - you'll see my today's post a little way down- if we're indeed talking about your successfully eliminating invisible biting mites it will be an absolute blessing to many thousands. I'm in the UK and must investigate whether this product sells here under the same name. Presumably you were unable to occupy your home in the three weeks it was covering everything until a full vacuuming had taken place?

uri72ah
Apr 24, 2012, 05:44 PM
This is truly exciting if it works as you say - you'll see my today's post a little way down- if we're indeed talking about your successfully eliminating invisible biting mites it will be an absolute blessing to many thousands. I'm in the UK and must investigate whether this product sells here under the same name. Presumably you were unable to occupy your home in the three weeks it was covering everything until a full vacuuming had taken place?

A further thought occurs to me debbie presumably this product is not something one can safely put on one's body - how did you get around that problem?

hurricanet62
Aug 1, 2012, 01:35 PM
Did this product work for anyone else? Please help as I am suffering the same problem for over a year now

mitehater
Aug 20, 2012, 05:42 AM
Oh my goodness. I have been battling these guys since we went camping in the summer. I thought they were lice, but there were no nits. I used at least 10 different types of pesticides and natural products, I would be clear for maybe a few hours - then I could feel them again. I went to the doctor also, who sent me to a specialist who thought I was imagining them because he couldn't see any legs. I didn't have very many then. I have had them under my nails, in my ears, in my nose (I see them when I blow my nose). I definitely know they are in my car and I see them on my clothes. I can feel them crawl on my face and if a use a wet kleenex to wipe where I feel them I always see little black specks. I would appreciate any help because My home is very infested and I can't possibly vacuum, scrub, and launder anymore! I have ordered KleenGreen and I will let you all know how it turns out.

I found that Kleen free combined with vinegar, bleach, pure lysol, and borax fights them. I put lysol, borax and a capful of bleach in my clothes to wash. Cleaned my carpets 8 times alternating from kleen free and vinegar with capful of bleach. I have washed walls, wrapped beds with plastic and pillows, use permethrin cream in hair and wash everything everyday. I packed up all nic nacs and put them in a storage for less cleaning and that is where they will stay until they die. It is a continuous ongoing effort to rid yourself of these nasty pest and spray bottles full of kleen free and vinegar with cap full of bleach. Every time I feel anything I spray. My problem is that I can't get it out of my vehicle... I have sprayed everything even with lice spray that kills bedbugs and they do not want to leave. Did not drive my vehicle for 2 weeks and sprayed with little results and have no clue why I cannot get them out of my car.

DeepMysteries
Jun 1, 2013, 08:36 PM
Wondering if you ever identified what you actually had infesting your house, car and body?

And--a year later, whether you have conquered them?

DeepMysteries
Jun 2, 2013, 08:33 PM
Having same problems with these tiny pests-- seems like people just disappear after awhile and it is hard to know if any of the solutions have worked to return life to normal and if anyone has ever actually had positive identification of the insects or disease involved. If any of you are still around, please check back in for updates.

tynk60
Jun 11, 2013, 11:33 AM
Having same problems with these tiny pests-- seems like people just disappear after awhile and it is hard to know if any of the solutions have worked to return life to normal and if anyone has ever actually had positive identification of the insects or disease involved. If any of you are still around, please check back in for updates.

I have been dealing with the same problem for a year and a half, I recently discovered it is Morgellon Disease I also have found a solution and am very excited to share this with all who suffer with this. This sounds weird but really works.Use a POWDERED laundry detergent that has a bleach alternative,1 cup mixed with 10 alfalfa tablets ( I chop mine very small in a chopper adding small amounts of water until I have a smooth paste ) and 4 st. johns wort (open capsules and pour out) mix all 3 ingredients together into 1 gallon of water. I put it in a bug sprayer and spray everything and everywhere inside and outside and your car, I use a weaker solution to bath in and wash my dogs with and this disease will be gone very fast, when you soak your body in this you will feel things coming out of your body.Make sure you add this solution to your laundry also, good luck and god bless

DeepMysteries
Jun 17, 2013, 07:09 AM
This is very interesting--how in the world did you come with this formula? I read somewhere else that alfalfa tablets had had an impact, but what inspired you to mix in St. John's Wort? Also what powdered laundry soap are you using?

Thanks for this information.