I still miss my ex, she called me last Tuesday and we had a pretty good conversation. She ended it with saying "Call me sometime". I was just on vacation from Thurs-Sun. Think I should call? Email? Or keep the NC going?

Did you answer?? Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't answer!! Call her back a few days later - you're a busy guy now.

DO NOT contact her for now. WAIT a couple months. Date.

DO NOT CALL!! DO NOT!! DO NOT!!

E-mail her in 2 months and KEEP IT LIGHT!! "Hey, how's it going? I wanted to make sure you were doing OK? Anyway, take care"

No tough questions after that!! None!! Ok?

Seriously. Don't call for at least a month. I don't know who broke up with who or how long you've been apart, but don't call and stay busy. For now that is the plan.

I am quite sure she left him.

I am quite sure she left him.

Yes - weird thing was she already called just a little over a week after it happened.

They will ABSOLUTELY always do that. Guaranteed. You shouldn't have answered or really even returned the call - you want her to re-gain feelings for you - she would wonder. You WOULD NOT have been acting needy or desperate.

I know it SEEMS like a bad thing not to answer or return a call - but, NOPE - this is how these things work. You can't let her check up on you any time she sees fit.

I know all this sounds weird - but woman DO not think like men. Remember this always - they generally go by their feelings - there is no logic.

By playing hard to get, unavailable, busy, dating others... she just might realize she doesn't have you. You become a challenge again. These aren't games.

BUT, what happened? Were you to available - too nice - too needy?

They will ABSOLUTELY always do that. Guranteed. You shouldn't have answered or really even returned the call - you want her to re-gain feelings for you - she would wonder. You WOULD NOT have been acting needy or desperate.

I know it SEEMS like a bad thing not to answer or return a call - but, NOPE - this is how these things work. You can't let her check up on you any time she sees fit.

I know all this sounds weird - but woman DO not think like men. Remember this always - they generally go by their feelings - there is no logic.

By playing hard to get, unavailable, busy, dating others.....she just might realize she doesn't have you. You become a challenge again. These aren't games.

BUT, what happened? Were you to available - too nice - too needy?

I think I became to available and know longer a challenge. The first few months I did well and had the whole 'do not care attitude'. Then I guess I crashed and burned and I could tell there was less attraction on her part and interest. When she called me I did not act desperate or needy. In fact I laughed pretty much the whole time and sounded normal again like I was during the first part of the relationship. I know she will contact me again at some point and I will keep your advice in my head. Thanks

That's the key - she WANTS mostly the guy when you first met. Get that BACK = 'do not care attitude' - woman love it.

Here is the crux in the matter - as a guy you start getting feelings for her and you mess everything up - we THINK we shuld be so super nice and do everythng for them. Woman HATE that. I think there is some flaw that they feel they can't be themselves and go through ALL their emotions they go through - they feel like they can't be a wench when they want to be. For some reason they are worried the ymight hurt us - which never has happened to me.

WE think that being super is the key to their hearts... nope.

Heh man trust me from someone who is a woman and seen these things happen and even done it a couple of times... if you were good to her then of course she is going to want you back.. I can't get rid of all my fiancés ex girlfriends always sending text messages saying how much they miss him etc.. but they all had moved on so why would they want him now?? to play him sucka again.. be careful.. the girl hurt you once are you sure you want to play with fire?hurt me once shame on you hurt me twice shame on me.

heh man trust me from someone who is a woman and seen these things happen and even done it a couple of times...if you were good to her then of course she is going to want you back.. i can't get rid of all my fiances ex girlfriends always sending text messages saying how much they miss him ect..but they all had moved on so why would they want him now???to play him sucka again..be careful..the girl hurt you once are you sure you want to play with fire?hurt me once shame on you hurt me twice shame on me.

Yup your right, she was a handful let me tell you with baggage to boot. I was just very physically attracted to her.

Well, when he does get her back he is going to know HOW to behave properly.

I DO advise reading EVERY Dating article at:

www.askmen.com - ESPECIALLY DOC LOVE.

Go to www.sosuave.com and read EVERY article.

These websire is great, but a little more mature and serious: www.relationships.blog-city.com - learn about nice guys and jerks. Don't become a jerk, but learn what jerks do to make woman go crazy.

How old was she - what type of baggage if I may ask? I may have some insite.

For the next month you NEED TO WORK ON YOU!! Learn about woman's tests, what causes attraction, how to tease, not to bore, be independent, become a leader, be unavailable sometimes, etc.

He's going to learn not to be so nice. Not play her games. NOT buy her things - especially expensive dinners etc all the time.

YOU NEED to be the prize - NOT HER.

Well, when he does get her back he is going to know HOW to behave properly.

I DO advise reading EVERY Dating article at:

www.askmen.com - ESPECIALLY DOC LOVE.

Go to www.sosuave.com and read EVERY article.

These websire is great, but a little more mature and serious: www.relationships.blog-city.com - learn about nice guys and jerks. Don't become a jerk, but learn what jerks do to make woman go crazy.

How old was she - what type of baggage if I may ask? I may have some insite.

For the next month you NEED TO WORK ON YOU!!!! Learn about woman's tests, what causes attraction, how to tease, not to bore, be independent, become a leader, be unavailable sometimes, etc.


She was 28, I am 24, she had 2 kid's... I really didn't mind though because I fell in love with her. I read a lot of the articles on sosuave.com. Good stuff thanks :)

Hmmmmmmmm - that's interesting, usually a woman with kids enjoys the extra attention.

Was she recently divorced - at least last year, or year and 1/2? - unfortunately it could be a 'rebound' relationship. Divorcées go through these - it takes them 3 or 4 short relationships to get their heads on straight.

See - "I feel in love with her" - kind of bad for business as well - did you share your feelings? Any woman RUNS when you share your feelings too soon.

1. You need to learn to stop being a nice guy.

2.You can NEVER convince a woman to like you - NEVER. You just have to be there, be funny etc.

3. Never look for her approval on anything - YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. YOU DECIDE WHERE YOU GO FOR DINNER. We guys think we are doing the right thing and asking if we can do something or ask whre SHE wants to go to dinner - you make the decisions!! You're the MAN!!

4. Don't buy her affection - keep gifts and fancy meals few and far between - especially early.

5. Sharing TOO EARLY HOW YOU FEEL - WOMAN HATE THIS!! It repulses them.

6. Learn HOW attraction works in woman. Being a needy-wuss us NOT it. Go to www.doubleyourdating.com - buy the book - get the e-mail.

7. Think it takes money, looks to get woman - NO WAY. It's how you make them FEEL!!

8. Giving away ALL your power to a woman - they HATE that!! Meaning you never make decisions. DOING WHAT EVER THE WOMAN WANTS - STOP THAT!! Doing ALL the favors she asks of you... never.

9. You need to know wha tto do in EVERY situation - ESPECIALLY WOMAN'S TESTS. Woman Will test you to see if you are a Wuss.

Hmmmmmmmm - that's interesting, usually a woman with kids enjoys the extra attention.

Was she recently divorced - at least last year, or year and 1/2? - unfortunately it could be a 'rebound' relationship. Divorcees go through these - it takes them 3 or 4 short relationships to get their heads on straight.

See - "I feel in love with her" - kind of bad for business as well - did you share your feelings? Any woman RUNS when you share your feelings too soon.

1. You need to learn to stop being a a nice guy.

2.You can NEVER convince a woman to like you - NEVER. You just have to be there, be funny etc.

3. Never look for her approval on anything - YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. YOU DECIDE WHERE YOU GO FOR DINNER. We guys think we are doing the right thing and asking if we can do something or ask whre SHE wants to go to dinner - you make the decisions!!!! You're the MAN!!!!

4. Don't buy her affection - keep gifts and fancy meals few and far between - especially early.

5. Sharing TOO EARLY HOW YOU FEEL - WOMAN HATE THIS!!!! It repulses them.

6. Learn HOW attraction works in woman. Being a needy-wuss us NOT it. Go to www.doubleyourdating.com - buy the book - get the e-mail.

7. Think it takes money, looks to get woman - NO WAY. It's how you make them FEEL!!!!!

8. Giving away ALL your power to a woman - they HATE that!!! Meaning you never make decisions. DOING WHAT EVER THE WOMAN WANTS - STOP THAT!!!! Doing ALL the favors she asks of you....never.

9. You need to know wha tto do in EVERY situation - ESPECIALLY WOMAN'S TESTS. Woman Will test you to see if you are a Wuss.

Yes she was separated for over a year and recently just divorced. I think she had a few short relationships over the last year before me. I shared my feelings more lately. The first few months I didn't. I think I passed her first wuss test and failed the second one.

Well unfortuantely, it defntely was a re-bound relationship. The good news is you could get her back, but you have to be disciplined. It's up to you - give her some space - don't accept the 'friend zone' - I wouldn't even return her calls for a while.

You really need to evict the 'inner wuss' - and then, when you get a chance I na month or two - shoot her a simple e-mail.

The e-mail should be short and simple - "Hey, I wanted to see how you were doing" Maybe ask avout the kids. Keep it very short and simple. No pressure. No dates. See what happens.

She probably will call.

Ask her to MEET for coffee - "to catch up" - keep it light and funny - No tough questions - no relationship questions. This will take time. But you have time.

I also advise dating other woman - maybe she finds out.

Just stay out of her space for a while.

Well unfortuantely, it defntely was a re-bound relationship. The good news is you could get her back, but you have to be disciplined. It's up to you - give her some space - don't accept the 'friend zone' - I wouldn't even return her calls for a while.

You really need to evict the 'inner wuss' - and then, when you get a chance i na month or two - shoot her a simple e-mail.

The e-mail should be short and simple - "Hey, I wanted to see how you were doing" Maybe ask avout the kids. Keep it very short and simple. No presure. No dates. See what happens.

She probably will call.

Ask her to MEET for coffee - "to catch up" - keep it light and funny - No tough questions - no relationship questions. This will take time. But you have time.

I also advise dating other woman - maybe she finds out.

Just stay out of her space for a while.

Yeah I didn't accept the friend zone. Forget that... Thanks for the advice, will keep updated.

Be busy improving yourself and learning to more of the guy who EXTERNALLY doesn't care. You got to learn to hide your cards - no hearts on sleves, woman hate that - all of them.

You're mission is just to be the fun to be with guy - nothing more. You can slowly build that back - IF you follow the rules - and #1 is zero contact.

Be busy improving yourself and learning to more of the guy who EXTERNALLY doesn't care. You gotta learn to hide your cards - no hearts on sleves, woman hate that - all of them.

You're mission is just to be the fun to be with guy - nothing more. You can slowly build that back - IF you follow the rules - and #1 is zero contact.

Gotchya thanks.

Sorry to hear that. That happens ALL the time - for some reason they are more comfortable with the guy who treats them like CRAP. The jerks do something to many woman.

AND the crux of the problem is - she'll end up leaving him again for the same freaking reasons.

It probably has something to do with the way she was brought up. Her parents may have been abusive, so she is used to being treated poorly - she doesn't have to worry about NOT hurting his feelings because he is a jerk and it doesn't matter. You - being the 'good guy' - she has to worry about ALWAYS being nice.

If this is the case leave her aloen for now. She doesn't deserve to be a part of your life and you don't need to be in the 'Friend Zone'.

It great to treat a woman well - going forward - just remember to be a little less available - don't call all the time - MAKE Decisions - no -kissing - make her laugh - no nee0dy-clingy, be independent, do other things in life - break a date - don't always be there. SAY NO sometimes!!

... so being a little more independent and not a lap dog and proving you can handle her crap and make sure you don't take ANY of her crap would have been a big turn on. I am sure at the end you probably tried make not to do anything to upset her. WHICH is wrong - woman need to go through their emotions - their emotions are like waves - highs and lows - they need to get mad, cry, laugh, angry, low, high... you've probably seen this - with my gal sometimes I wonder if she is the same gal! Haha!

Remember - they think differently than us - they use their feelings. It's the bizzaro world. She went back to guy because he makes he feelings go bizzerk.

So if you guys don't use feelings, what are you operating on?

Logic. Always.

Meaning... my gal LOVES Tulips. I WOULD buy her tulips every day if I could - but she would HATE me for it. I would buy a field every day of tulips. Nope! Doesn't work that way... tulips every so offten when she DOESN'T expect it.

It's like I love cigars and wines. If she gave me those things every day I would be an extremely happy camper.

Sorry to hear that. That happens ALL the time - for some reason they are more comfortable with the guy who treats them like CRAP. The jerks do something to many woman.

AND the crux of the problem is - she'll end up leaving him again for the same freaking reasons.

It probably has something to do with the way she was brought up. Her parents may have been abusive, so she is used to being treated poorly - she doesn't have to worry about NOT hurting his feelings because he is a jerk and it doesn't matter. You - being the 'good guy' - she has to worry about ALWAYS being nice.

If this is the case leave her aloen for now. She doesn't deserve to be a part of your life and you don't need to be in the 'Friend Zone'.

It great to treat a woman well - going forward - just remember to be a little less avaialble - don't call all the time - MAKE DECISONS - no -kissing - make her laugh - no nee0dy-clingy, be independent, do other things in life - break a date - don't always be there. SAY NO sometimes!!!!!

Yup girl is damaged goods... Moving on... at least I learned a valuable lesson - thanks man

I didn't want to say those words, but yes she is.

You MORE than likely saved yourself from a lot of trouble, heartache, and bad situations.

The first couple months it's easy to be smitten/lust - she behaves well.

Later - you probably could have a world of hell. She most likely is very unhappy.

Just take it as experience.

AND the crux of the problem is - she'll end up leaving him again for the same freaking reasons.



Yup how can any idiot get 3 chances? :eek:

Take that as a massive red flag.

Woman think it's a good idea to get back together with the father of their children for the sake of the children.

I bet a lot of money he cheated on her? Plus - she was with you.

It's all F-ed up.

You may not have done much wrong, but she may have been secretly pinning away for him - you just kept her company. She can't live with him, OR with out him.

Woman with Baggage need to be treated mean. NOT bad, not cruel. Just never give into them, make them think you are seeing someone else - or see someone else. You really have to use the love tactics in a the worst way.

That is gross. Is that really true?

I would say from my experience yes

Hey Turtle - what is gross?

If you mean woman like this? There are some really f---d up people out there.

These woman forget how bad these guys were to them for some major screwed up reason. AND for some reason they FEEL they shouldn't be treated well!! I am serious!!

I know a woman I dated once 3 years ago who left/divorced her husband 3 years ago because he was abusive to her. YET, she was STILL in love with him - he was re-married and had a kid - he was really happy and very good to his second wife - he had grown up. (also this woman brought out the abusiveness in him)

I'd just becareful and take things slow with divorcées - MOST ARE great. But many have issues and baggage.

ALSO - you have to be really careful of rebound relationships - SOME are looking to hurt someone else. It's sickening - but it makes them feel better.

ALSO - you have to be really careful of rebound relationships - SOME are looking to hurt someone else. It's sickening - but it makes them feel better.

Yup it's sickening all right. Just made me stronger in the end.

It's gross that "women with baggage need to be treated mean." Tragic, really.

It's gross that "women with baggage need to be treated mean." Tragic, really.

The sad part is they do not realize it.

Exactly!! They don't - even when people tell them.

Hi,

It's really tricky to answer to that question without knowing anything about both of you...

Well, it has been very long time, I am having relationship with girls...

So, I suggest you which might work...

If she dumped you and asking for getting you back, it would be because of your new look / new achievement / better qualities or power than the one who she liked after you, etc.

It might be because she is jealous seeing her friends getting coupled.

Perhaps, she thought that she could get another person who could satisfy her or match to her. Or, her parents or any kind of guardians are nomore strict as they were earlier.

Or during the relationship with you, she was confused with her career and now clear that relationship won't affect that anymore.

And many more. What do you think?

I don't have enough time to elaborate everything and give you the point which must be from among all those I would write down to you.

Anyway, you can couple up with her if for any of the aforementioned point, she broke up with you except it spoils your career or reputation or anything which is important to you.

Thanks anyway, looking forward to hearing from you soon.

TRY TO BE DECISIVE and TAKE DECISION. REGRET BEFORE TAKING DECISION BUT ONCE DECISION IS TAKEN, TAKE THE ADVANTAGE OF IT. You can sort it out anyway... Always sound confident in front of her... Hope a great life, Dude...

Things must not be working out with the ex. She's already emailing me. Probably just misses those multiple orgasms.

Well, please don't respond for a couple days - you're busy and she didn't need you before. Play hard to get.

Although - maybe you're done with her?

Well, please don't respond for a couple days - you're busy and she didn't need you before. Play hard to get.

Although - maybe you're done with her?

From how I feel now I am done man. If she wanted me back she's the one now who needs to read up haha. Ex couldn't hold a candle to me, and she's soon going to be realize it if she hasn't already.

That happens a lot - remember - always:

People WANT what they can't have!

She didn't have her ex - she probably got him back too easy. Now she doesn't want him.

You're not paying attention to her now. She probably feels she doesn't have you.

Just lay low on this. Be cool. Or, move on. Don't be in any hurry to contact her, it will drive her bizerk.

That happens a lot - remember - always:

People WANT what they can't have!

She didn't have her ex - she probably got him back too easy. Now she doesn't want him.

You're not paying attention to her now. She probably feels she doesn't have you.

Just lay low on this. Be cool. Or, move on. Don't be in any hurry to contact her, it will drive her bizerk.

Yup don't even think he dated or moved on during the whole time they were separated.

See - that's not attractive to a woman. She wanted a challenge he probably did not give it to her. Give her a challenege. Don't be a whimp and just go crawling back.

See - that's not attractive to a woman. She wanted a challenge he probably did not give it to her. Give her a challenege. Don't be a whimp and just go crawling back.

She told me in an email the times we were alone together were really good, but the times we were with other people with alcohol were really bad. I know I have a problem with drinking and acting stupid when I do. She said she is confused and needs to sort things out. She also said she thought I was a great guy and 'perfect' and her kids loved me but she couldn't deal with the stresses a relationship brought with everything going on in her life. Part of me wants another shot and I know I need to leave her alone right now. I really think she cares what people might think of her if she was divorced with 2 kids. So I think she is trying her ex out one more time. Sad thing is it's was only a week before she told me she was thinking about giving us another try. I thought the first part of the relationship was suppose to be the best. Then again she could have been lying. I don't see how her and the ex could last. He is such a tool but I think the only reason she is doing it is for her kids.

Give her space and time. Woman change their minds. Let her stort through it. Don't contact her. I sure her ex confised the F out of her as well.

What happened with the alcohol and how do you avoid that?

Just be a man and work on yourself. Learn how to deal with her - no more soft guy.

Divorce is NOT a bad thing - you need to tell her this. She tried - she PROVED she can commit.

Today, being divorced is NOT a BAD thing - it used to be - things sometimes just don't work out - right? Tell her this - she proved she can be I na relationship.

Give her space and time. Woman change their minds. Let her stort through it. Don't contact her. I sure her ex confised the F out of her as well.

What happened with the alcohol and how do you avoid that?

Just be a man and work on yourself. Learn how to deal with her - no more soft guy.

I take medication so if I drink too much it makes me act crazy. I really messed up with it and I can't blame the alcohol.

I sure her ex confised the F out of her as well.


Haha that's funny

Dude - stop the drinking and medication! Please tell her you stopped!

Dude - stop the drinking and medication! Please tell her you stopped!

Haven't drank in awhile, I feel so much better now and my confidence is back up...

Good for you. Boozing is great, but if it effects your game OR you feel like hell for more than a day - for get it.

Good for you. Boozing is great, but if it effects your game OR you feel like hell for more than a day - for get it.

Yup my game took a huge dive man, I can think so much better now.

Yay Kingpin! I quit drinking too, for now, and life is better. For now.

Yay Kingpin! I quit drinking too, for now, and life is better. For now.

Thanks it pretty much improved everything I do

OK first off you don't need to even be in communication with this girl... she ripped your heart out and handed to you on a silver platter and just when you thought she was done she threw it on the floor and stomped on it.. sorry but that is the cold truth.. shes a badboy type she likes bad guys... she likes to be treated the way she has been by her ex man and sad to say but there is no real explanation for it except that she loves him... or she doesn't want to see him with anyone else... OR and watch out this is a classic one... she still thinks that she can change him into the man she wants him to be.. I think you shouldn't even waste your time..

Oh guys when should we try you people.why should you give your ex a chance don you no the more you get close to her you start feeling for and the next thing you do is... that is very bad so please forget about her as you've already done and continue with girl

ok first off you dont need to even be in communication with this girl...she ripped your heart out and handed to you on a silver platter and just when you thought she was done she threw it on the floor and stomped on it..sorry but that is the cold truth..shes a badboy type she likes bad guys...she likes to be treated the way she has been by her ex man and sad to say but there is no real explanation for it except that she loves him...or she doesnt want to see him with anyone else...OR and watch out this is a classic one...she still thinks that she can change him into the man she wants him to be..i think you shouldnt even waste your time..

Yes I realize it now, the only time I really wanted her back is when I was drinking and I was drinking nearly everyday.

Booze WILL do that to you - no questions. It totally CLOUDS reality.

Reality IS you don't need her at all.

6. Learn HOW attraction works in woman. Being a needy-wuss us NOT it. Go to www.doubleyourdating.com - buy the book - get the e-mail.



I read that book last night - good stuff... Learned a lot

GOOD FOR YOU!!

It's amazing - YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT ATTRACTION!! Most guys don't get it. Again - most guys don't understand attraction in women.

It's not what we think. It's exactly what we don't think. It's so important to understand this. Woman are in the bizzaro world compared to us.

If you don't build and maintain attraction - she will leave. You have to build a challenge.

I hope to hell you received Dave's e-mail from today. It was outstanding.

I could forward it to you.

This stuff is so simple once you crack the code. Woman don't want 'nice', approval seekers, etc.

Dude - stop the drinking and medication! Please tell her you stopped!

Wildcat - How can I tell her I stopped if I am suppose to not be in contact with her? I believe our last correspondence was like 10 day's ago through email. It just seems if I told her I stopped I would look desperate to her, and I am sure she would think the reason I stopped was to get her back but it wasn't.

10 days? Are you sure? No text in that 10 days?

IF that's the case - call - but if not AND you texted - wait 2 or 3 weeks.

Call - she MOST likely WILL NOT pick up. NOT. Woman do this. AND when you totally don't have her she MAY not call back - woman do this.

Do not leave a message - leave her guessing! Always. Always be unpredictable. Call her in 2 days.

Here's were people ALWAYS blow it in win-back - THEY RUSH THINGS!! YOU HAVE tons OF TIME ON YOUR SIDE!! There is no rush.

They OVER contact.

They share feelings immediately.

NO pressure.

And do not go right into the fact you stopped drinking - mention casually and that's WHY your doing GREAT and always FEEL GREAT!!

No pressure, no dates - yet - unless she asks, no negative stuff.

Let her talk - remember to listen.

10 days? are you sure? no text in that 10 days?

IF that's the case - call - but if not AND you texted - wait 2 or 3 weeks.

Call - she MOST likely WILL NOT pick up. NOT. Woman do this. AND when you totally don't have her she MAY not call back - woman do this.

Do not leave a message - leave her guessing! Always. Always be unpredictable. Call her in 2 days.

Here's were people ALWAYS blow it in win-back - THEY RUSH THINGS!!!! YOU HAVE tons OF TIME ON YOUR SIDE!!! There is no rush.

They OVER contact.

They share feelings immediately.

NO presure.

And do not go right into the fact you stopped drinking - mention casually and that's WHY your doing GREAT and always FEEL GREAT!!!!!

No presure, no dates - yet - unless she asks, no negitive stuff.

Let her talk - remember to listen.

Yes I hadn't sent a text in about 3 weeks... And I never actually called her since she broke it off. You were right though, she didn't answer... It didn't surprise me though. I just felt in a good mood and wanted to call.

I am totally NOT surprised she didn't answer. She wanted you to leave a message most likely - OR, seriously she could have been busy. Make her 'wonder'. There is a slight chance she will call in the next two days because it will really bother her as to why you called.

I would call her in like two days - maybe Saturday afternoon early. (make sure to have plans Saturday night with friends or what ever in case she asks) I bet she picks up that - if not, leave a simple message - "Hey hows it going, wanted to say hi" Again, no pressure, no desperation, no trying to impress.

These seem like games, but they really are not. It's human reaction to Psychology.

For some reason, and I have studied this - woman don't return calls and e-mails as much - even my sister does not return calls and e-mails. They read and listen, they appreciate them - but for some reason they do not return them - even my gal rarely returns e-mail (she thinks it's way to impersonal).

You need strong patience here my friend. No needy or desperate - which you could come off as. Confidence, laugh, tease her if possible.

This is going to be tricky though. I don't thin kyou want her to think you are trying to get back together.

I am totally NOT suprised she didn't answer. She wanted you to leave a message most likely - OR, seriously she could have been busy. Make her 'wonder'. There is a slight chance she will call in the next two days because it will really bother her as to why you called.

I would call her in like two days - maybe Saturday afternoon early. (make sure to have plans Saturday night with friends or what ever in case she asks) I bet she picks up that - if not, leave a simple message - "Hey hows it going, wanted to say hi" Again, no presure, no desperation, no trying to impress.

These seem like games, but they really are not. It's human reaction to Psycology.

For some reason, and I have studied this - woman don't return calls and e-mails as much - even my sister does not return calls and e-mails. They read and listen, they appreciate them - but for some reason they do not return them - even my gal rarely returns e-mail (she thinks it's way to impersonal).

You need strong patience here my friend. No needy or desperate - which you could come off as. Confidence, laugh, tease her if possible.

This is going to be tricky though. I don't thin kyou want her to think you are trying to get back together.

Well she could have been asleep, I no longer remember her work schedule. Your right about the emails, in my experience though with the phone I usually always get a call back. The email thing though does seem rather impersonal. I am good at being funny and teasing, that's one of my strong points so I am not worried there. We'll see what happens, thanks..

A call back is always a good sign. That means she is into or there is a chance. When a woman is into you she will do almost anything to be with you, talk etc.

A call back is always a good sign. That means she is into or there is a chance. When a woman is into you she will do almost anything to be with you, talk etc.

WildCat - I pm'ed u something - thanks

I am quite sure she left him.
Hiiiii how are you sweety :p

Hello how are you talk to me
;)

You talking to me?

I think she is showing you a positive sign by telling you to call her up sometime
Maybe she ants to patch up with you again
Talk to her over this matter when you call her up in the near future
That way you can be clear whether she wants to come back to you or just remain your friend

While you are playing tactical games another man will be there :p

Nope - those aren't games.

And it has worked for him. It just depends how far he wants to take it.

Nope - those aren't games.

And it has worked for him. It just depends how far he wants to take it.

Yup great info in this thread

Absence makes the heart grow fonder? But ultimately if the relationship developes, togetherness occurs. Then how do you keep the attention, more periods of withdrawal?

Remember, each side can play the same tactics. If you are to be together it happens. Clear requests get to the truth and you all know where you stand. Do not get drawn into other peoples tactics. Go for what you want, be brave, it may work, if not, move on; if it does, then it is good that you grabbed the opportunity.

That's a nice fantasy - but not in this world. Never. These aren't tactics.but true relationship psycological principles.

The biggest thing people screw up is they REFUSE to change themselves. You have to change. Change is good.

Call her, but don't expect anything to come out of it. That way, you won't be disappointed if it doesn't. Talk for a while then end the conversation. If it seems to go well then about a week later call her again and invite her for coffee (but don't be disappointed if she declines.) The key is not to make yourself too available to her and let her pursue you instead of the other way around. Make sure you stay in the driver's seat and don't let her start with the head games.

I still miss my ex, she called me last Tuesday and we had a pretty good conversation. She ended it with saying "Call me sometime". I was just on vacation from Thurs-Sun. Think I should call? email? or keep the NC going?
Call her