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Inspired
Jul 15, 2007, 08:15 PM
Its been about 3 months since we broke up, and 4 1/2 months since I found out that he was lying and cheating for most of the relationship. I have not talked to him in a month ( I didn't talk to him for 2 months and then broke NC and called him and since then its been a month). I have no plans on ever contacting him. We don't even live in the same state. I just don't know why its still so hard. Some days are better but its still always in the back of my mind. I know he's not good for me and I know I would have ruined my life if I ended up with him. I know all these things yet its still so hard to get over what he did to me. I don't cry everyday anymore and am able to concentate at work more. However, today my parents told me they were planning a family trip to the city he lives in (not that they know where he's at). They asked me if I wanted to go with them when I came to visit them. I got upset and said no. After I got off the phone with them, I just cried and cried. I have not cried like that in about a month. I know a part of me is not fully over him. I feel used and hurt because I did not expect everything in our relationship to be a lie (we were together a little over a year). Even though I don't want to be with him and I know he's no good for me, why can't I get over what he did to me?? Even though he was a scumbag, why is it still so hard for me to feel better??

mrmuffins
Jul 15, 2007, 08:48 PM
What have you done to get over it?

dazedandconfused77
Jul 15, 2007, 08:58 PM
I feel weird for saying "this happened to me" to several posts but I've had some ty luck in the past. I was with my ex boyfriend for 2.5 years. After about 1 year he told me he cheated on me. I was so devastated and hurt, but I held onto the relationship because I couldn't be alone. I still loved him more than ever and thought we could work through it. Everything started going well again but I found myself disgusted by him sexually, it felt dirty after what he did. To some extent I was drawn to it in a masochistic way. Anyway, another year later he cheated on me again, with the same person. This time I broke up with him. My point is, I should have done it right away. If he cheated on you once, he would probably do it again. Its hard, but don't put yourself through it, you just need to move on. I know you can't just make yourself "forget about him", but you have to try. It has been years since this relationship, and I am in a new relationship now and I am still damaged, I lack trust and confidence. I let him do it to me twice. You have to think about your own health. I know its hard, but you'll have to try. I wish I did.

Skell
Jul 15, 2007, 10:28 PM
There is not much I can say other than to just give it time. You will be OK in time. There will be many ups and downs but it is all part of the healing process. As long as you maintain no contact and try as best as possible to lead a healthy and fulfilling life then bit by bit it will get better.

Some days will be better than others. On the bad days try and be with friends and keep yourself busy. Sitting at home and moping isn't going to change anything.

For some people it takes up to a year to get over a relationships ending. Others can do it in a month or so. You will be fine if you keep with the no contact and continue to focus on YOU!

Good luck!

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 06:25 AM
I am not communicating with him and I don't plan on doing so ever. Dazedandconfused, I know what you are saying. Although I did not give him another chance after I found out he was cheating the whole time, I did give him many chances when he would lie to me about things. I feel stupid for that and kick myself about it. I had a bad feeling about him in the first place but I still proceeded with him because he pursued me so hard. If you read my other posts, you will see the things he lied to me about.

iwillhelp, I know he's not good for me and that it would have been a horrible future with him. But that does not prevent the fact that what he did to me still hurts. Skell, just like your situation, I was the "stable" one. I had my S*** together and he didn't. I was more career oriented, educated, and made more money than him. He was the lucky one, and that's why in the beginning I didn't like him and he presued me so hard. Even though he knew what he had, why did he do what he did? If he thought I was "all that" why did he cheat and tell the other woman things like "he stopped finding me attractive after I gained 5 lbs". etc. He has never admitted to the cheating (it was with his ex ) or to the other stuff but I know in my heart he did it. He lied to me about so many other things with her like he told me they don't talk anymore which was a lie. In the end I found out that she would borrow his car on the weekend and she had a key to his place. She used to call when we were together and he would lie and say it was work. When he was in the shower I would check the cell phone and it was her. He admitted all of this stuff. Plus all of the other lies throughout the relationship makes me not trust him. I just wish I could stop hurting so much. I know he was bad for me, then why do I still feel so bad??

SAB123
Jul 16, 2007, 06:48 AM
It's been a little over 5 months for me and does get better. She's playing mind games with me so it makes it that much harder to let go of her. And I still cry now(once in awhile) but it does get a little better. I am like you she is not rite for me but it is still hard to get over the 6 breakups in 5 years she did with me and. But Like iwillhelp said I think you and I need to start dating people to see how badley our ex's treated us. But give it time 2 months ago I didn't think I would be where I'm at in my recovery.

huno
Jul 16, 2007, 07:03 AM
This is a tough situation, but also one people can learn from. See, the reason you can't get over him is BECAUSE he's a loser. I have been criticized, chided, reprimanded--even threatened with death--for my theories, but I stand by this one and will until the day that I die (and when I do die, it will be engraved in my tombstone):

The more worthless a guy is, the more a girl will like him.

Now, your ex sounds like one royally pathetic loser. Whereas most morons are found at the bottom of a barrel, your guy couldn't afford the rent in the barrel to begin with (I imagine you found him in an old refrigerator box behind Sears). This makes him ultra-attractive.

Why? Well, I don't know. You might try and fill us in on that one.

In any case, I agree with the above advice: you need to start meeting other guys. Don't be in a rush to jump into a new relationship, but just get out there and start talking. Flirt with other guys. Go out on a few dates. Wear clothes so tight people think your skin is 50% cotton and should be dry cleaned. Post booty shots on your Myspace (or, if you don't have a Myspace, you can post them on this forum :D).

Get out there and have fun. Enjoy yourself. Treat yourself once in a while. You need to concentrate on you instead of your ex. Now get out there and shake your moneymaker!



--huno

P.S.: I really do want to know: why did you fall for the guy in the first place? How long were you together? What kept you with him throughout the relationship?

P.P.S.: you may be wondering why I would have the audacity to advise you to post pictures of your butt online. In a recent university double-blind study, patients suffering from post-relationship stress disorder (PRSD) show significant improvement in their disposition, wellness, vitality and constitution after showing off their @ss in a microscopic thong to the world.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 07:27 AM
Huno, to answer your questions, I really didn't fall for him in the beginning. We were friends and I told him I didn't want to be with anyone because I had just gotten out of a relationship at that time (I was with the guy before this guy for 6 months). I was a bit vulnerable and didn't want to be in a relationship or for that matter get physical with anyone. He knew which buttons to push. One day we were hanging out and he started to kiss me. We made out and I told him I didn't want to anymore because when women are physical with someone they do not know they tend to develop feelings for that person even though its not good because they don't know that person. He pretended he understood but still tried to make out with me the next time he saw me. I resisted in the beginning but then gave in. We did not sleep together, were not even close but making out was nice. Once I found out (3 months into knowing him as a friend) that he had lied to me about being married (he was married for papers) I cut him off. Then his ex wife calls me telling me he loves me and their marriage is not for love or anything, but that she was just trying to help him out with his papers. That before they got married they were friends and she offered to marry him because his work visa had expired. She said that he didn't love her and that he loves me. I still did not want to have anything to do with him. Within that week he got a divorce and moved into his own place. He really wanted to be with me and wanted to prove to me that he “loved me”. I believed him and was kindof impressed that he all the sudden moved out and got a divorce. His ex called me and told me he's a really good guy and although she had fallen in love with him, he never loved her. Later I found out that they were intimate during the marriage.

I decided to give him a chance because I felt he was making an effort and trying to fix what he messed up. He kept asking me for a chance and I kept saying no but then I decided to say yet because I felt he made an effort. I started to like him a bit too. The unfortunate part was that my gut feeling kept telling me different and I didn't listen. I really fell in love with him. We were together 14 months.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 07:51 AM
I don't think it's that women like jerks/loosers. I just didn't expect that he would hurt me in this way since I did have my life together and since he presued me so hard in the beginning.

nicespringgirl
Jul 16, 2007, 08:04 AM
I am sorry, but I think you will get over with it soon! You are a strong woman, you can do it!
Don't let any guy make you cry no more!

talaniman
Jul 16, 2007, 08:05 AM
You will have good days, and really bad ones, after a break up. The key is to enjoy yourself, and when thoughts of him pop in your head, get something positive to do, to change your focus. I know one poster who got over the ex by cleaning her closets, LOL but that's the way it works. Make new habits and have hobbies, and projects so you can stay busy, and change the focus of your thoughts. It takes time and it is very hard, but you can do this.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 08:21 AM
Thank you Oracle and Tal, your advice is great. I have been doing other things, going out with friends, focusing on work (we have been crazy busy this month with quarter end reporting), and trying to keep my mind off things. I am also taking an additional grad school class in my field ( I graduated with my masters last year but thought it would be something to do to enhance myself). It still hurts and is still always in the back of my mind. I still wonder what he is up to and if he made the millions he was supposed to make (he was supposedly involved in this construction project that he was supposed to make a lot of money in, sounds like bogus to me since this project was ongoing for 2 yrs so he says and he hasn't seen a dime). Sounds like another one of his “get rich quick” pipe dreams. I hope he didn't make the money and I hope he is miserable.

nicespringgirl
Jul 16, 2007, 08:27 AM
Thank you Oracle and Tal, your advice is great. I have been doing other things, going out with friends, focusing on work (we have been crazy busy this month with quarter end reporting), and trying to keep my mind off of things. I am also taking an additional grad school class in my field ( I graduated with my masters last year but thought it would be something to do to enhance myself). It still hurts and is still always in the back of my mind. I still wonder what he is up to and if he made the millions he was supposed to make (he was supposedly involved in this construction project that he was supposed to make a lot of money in, sounds like bogus to me since this project was ongoing for 2 yrs so he says and he hasn’t seen a dime). Sounds like another one of his “get rich quick” pipe dreams. I hope he didn’t make the money and I hope he is miserable.
U'll have no problem find another new guy, you are a smart woman with great potential, I know it's hard to let it go, but focus more on work, is problly the best to do now.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 08:48 AM
Im trying my best. I am not so much worried about having trust issues with whomever I end up with (im not in a rush or anything). What still hurts me to this day is how is it humanly possible to be so fake? How can someone pretend he loves you, treat you good, and the whole time lie and cheat behind your back? Some of my friends said that that is just who he is. That he did love me but it was his own F***** up way of loving. That this is the way he knows how to love and he is not capable of more.

talaniman
Jul 16, 2007, 09:39 AM
(https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/talaniman.html)talaniman (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/talaniman.html) agrees: In the real world there are great people and moron losers, they look alike but act different, thats just life.
(https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/members/talaniman.html)
Accepting life for what it really is, makes you more alert cautious and wiser about how you go about living. There is good and bad. Enjoy the good and try to leave the bad alone.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 09:44 AM
Tal,
Darn its not letting me give you a reputation because I have to spread more around. But I wanted to tell you that I really like what you said about how there are great people and moran loosers, and that they look alike but act different. Its so true. Unfortunately I wish I could stop thinking of what he did to me and focus on how bad he was for me. Some days I am able to look into the future and say "thank god I didnt marry him or prolong our relationship" and other days I'm stuck in the past and moping about what he did to me.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 10:53 AM
Oracle,
I have made several lists during the last 3 months lol. I have a list of all the good/bad qualities of him. Of course the "bad qualities" list is about as big as Santa Clause's list. I have also gotten away, went to DC, New York, and I am going to visit my parents next month and on a cruise the month after. My work schedule is very hectic ( I am an investment banker), so whenever I get free time I go out and do fun stuff. Last weekend I went to a water park with a bunch of friend (kindof juvenile but fun nevertheless).

I guess I do question whether the love was real or not. That's what hurts but as I mentioned above, not everyone loves the same way. I guess I am basing it on myself. If I really loved or cared about someone, I would never do the things he did to me. I feel used and played. I feel that he needed me as a 'crutch' to lean on. He always used to say that I was his inspiration to get his life back in order. He also used to say that he knows that if we are together than he will be on the straight track, and if we ever break up than his life will spiral out of control because he will be doing things he shouldn't be doing. I guess in a way he wanted me to save him.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 12:37 PM
Thanks again Oracle, your advice is so wonderful. I don't have any sympathy for him anymore. I did initially when he was so miserable and felt so bad. But I don't have any sympathy anymore. Your absolutely right when you say that he is selfish. I know he is and that's what hurts me the most. How could he have been such a good pretender to make me believe that he was the most wonderful man in the world? How could I have been fooled so easily? That's what hurts, knowing he was the complete opposite of the man I thought he was. He was the type of person who couldn't watch the news because it would ruin his whole week to see a crime committed on innocent people. He always talked about how he wants to have a lot of money so he can help the poor. He would get upset at me if I would kill a bug. This is the type of person he portrayed to be, but he was nothing like that as evident in the end of our relationship. That's what hurts so much. It hurts that everything about him was a lie. He was nothing he claimed to be. He really never had any intentions of moving to my town or marrying me. That's what hurts.

talaniman
Jul 16, 2007, 01:13 PM
Grieve the death of this relationship, celebrate your freedom. You needed this life lesson, and now you have it, so thank the fool for it, and learn to live, and be happy as a wiser person.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 01:18 PM
I know what you mean tal. I was just so surprised at myself yesterday when I broke down when my parents brought up taking a family trip to the town he lives in. They don't know where he lives, but the area he lives in is a tourist hotspot. That made me realize that I am not over it and it may take a lot longer. I have been in serious relationships before but none hurt to this extent. I guess that's what hurts, I thought it was serious when he didn't value it at all and pretended he did. I actually got really sick last month too and had an ulcer due to all the stress.

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 05:18 PM
I was driving home from work and I broke down and started crying again. I don't know why I am reliving this.

nicespringgirl
Jul 16, 2007, 06:05 PM
I was driving home from work and I broke down and started crying again. I dont know why I am reliving this.
Aw... I wish I could give you a hug, can't say much since I have never been to this kind of situation. I hope you feel better, the things d'nt kill you will make you stronger!!

hair2007
Jul 16, 2007, 06:14 PM
I was driving home from work and I broke down and started crying again. I dont know why I am reliving this.
I understand what yr going through, I'm in it myself right now. If you read my posts you will understand.

I haven't even posted about me going back with him again since my last posts, I'm kind of ashamed of it. Lol. But I did, and went 20 steps back, and am at the point of where you are,(once again) I can't understand how another human at the age of 38 can play such friccan mind games with someone. So many times, its just so selfish. And I am not like that so its even harder to understand, just leave the relationship if you know you don't feel it.

Needless to say I can not eat, sleep terrible, and think I also have an ulcer. But I am more to blame than him because I must have a very low self esteem to continue to fall for his blulsh!t. I end up the one screaming at the end and acting like a nut, because he never follows through with effort. I left him like 20 messages of how I felt in about a week. Just to get it out. But it has been 4 days now of no contact, and I wish I never screamed into his voice mail now, waste of time. I end up looking phsyco and he walks away cause he never meant any of his words. And I'm here alone wondering why.

I wish you luck, its hard nomatter what the situation, but it does get better but right now we can't see that. I wish you well, try to think of better things... ( ;

Inspired
Jul 16, 2007, 06:47 PM
Yea its been tough. I had a crappy day. I am going to try to get some sleep to see if I feel better tomorrow morning. All last night I had nightmares.

Inspired
Jul 17, 2007, 07:04 AM
Update: I woke up this morning with a huge headache. Didn't sleep well last night. Im going to try to get through the day without breaking down. It sucks because I wish I could just turn my emotions off. It is horrible to know that I think a part of me still loves him. I have no intention of ever talking to him or calling him. I know he's bad for me. I wish I could just look at what a blessing it is to have him out of my life instead of continuing to look into the past and not be able to get over the pain he caused me.

kaj675
Jul 17, 2007, 07:36 AM
I'm in the same situation that you're in. it's very hard. I feel so stupid for believing anything mine said. It's just beyond me how someone can treat another human being like that. I wish you all the luck. Wish I had some advice but I don't.

Inspired
Jul 17, 2007, 07:38 AM
Kaj,
You can post a question and I am sure people will give you advice. This forum is wonderful and people are helpful. Try it. I also wish you the best.

talaniman
Jul 17, 2007, 08:28 AM
She has posted and her questions will be answered. Also Inspire, I want you to know that the pain your going through is because you really cared for this human, even though he didn't deserve it. You are an honest caring sensitive woman, who deserves better and you will find your happiness, despite the temporary pain you find yourself in. That you have given such good advice and support to others lets me know, that your closer than you think you are, and only need time. Hard to wait on relief of the misery, but your doing the right things to get you there, just keep going.

diya
Jul 17, 2007, 08:51 AM
Time, my dear, Time is what is going to make you forget, nothing and no one else. At this point it is subconscious ego(that how could he do this to me)... is what is making you lingerin on with this... and subconscious mind is a slave to memories and time. So only Time can help you. In the meantime, please try not to let your thoughts revolve around the memories of the person who treated you like crap... u have a dignity of your own. Hell with this man who knew nothing of the matters of respecting a woman who deserved love. These kind of people deserve no inch of our respect and time. Be strong.

Inspired
Jul 17, 2007, 09:48 AM
Thanks Tal and Diya. I am trying to get through the day without being sad. Its hard but I'm trying. I just keep thinking how it was so easy for him to pretend that he loved me, that he wanted to move to my home town and was trying, and how he pretended that he never talked to this woman anymore and that he hated her. While all along he was messing with her and sleeping with her. Its so hard to realize that he was soooo fake. He was always so sensitive and nice to me. Ok I'm driving myself crazy again. Time to go to lunch

emopunk7
Jul 17, 2007, 10:36 AM
Relax...

Inspired
Jul 17, 2007, 11:43 AM
I just got back from a lunch meeting. The food was good. Still feeling bad. Last night I woke up with that "shocked feeling". I used to go through that at least 3-4 times a night for about 3 months after I found out he cheated. At least last night it was only once.

Inspired
Jul 17, 2007, 03:05 PM
Its weird but actually helping others with their problems makes me feel good for a few minutes.

hair2007
Jul 17, 2007, 03:40 PM
I just got back from a lunch meeting. The food was good. Still feeling bad. Last night I woke up with that "shocked feeling". I used to go through that atleast 3-4 times a night for about 3 months after I found out he cheated. Atleast last night it was only once.
Me too! On top of it my ex is dating his neighbor now and they live in the same city and 10 house up from my work.. I see them a lot, and my stomach turns!! I guess in my case its just another thing he has done to me, and it really hits me to know if he can be with some one so soon and not care then he really never loved me and was always just using me as plan b...

Inspired
Jul 17, 2007, 04:15 PM
However, helping others does harp on the heart strings a bit as it reminds me of what I went through and am still going through. I cried most of the way from work to home. (I have a 1 hour drive).

Inspired
Jul 18, 2007, 04:48 PM
I had a tough day today again. I cried driving home. When I look into the future I know 100% that this was the best thing that has happened for my future. However I get stuck in the past. Its like the flood gates opened since this Sunday (when my parents mentioned the family trip to where he lives). I don't feel as bad as I did when I found out, but its still pretty bad. I feel like I am reverting backwards. When I get emotional, nothing helps, no logic, nothing. I am seriously considering therapy but I don't know if it will help. I have had therapy before (a few yrs back when I lost my fiancée to a car accident) and it didn't help. I do remember that medicines did help. I was on paxil (this was 5 yrs ago). I don't understand why it still feels like a rollar coaster. Sometimes I feel fine and other times I feel like I am reverting back. Has anyone else gone through this type of rollar coaster?

diya
Jul 19, 2007, 05:51 AM
Everyone goes through it... and each one of us learns from our own mistakes. It's all experience that we inhale each moment of our lives. One thing that lets me get over any unpleasant experience is the feeling that nothing... NOTHING is permanent. No one person, thing or place stays with you forever... we simply get stuck because of what we call attachment. Attachment gives us hurt... one of my exes told me he was unemotional and never shared anything with anyone... very strong guy... it was easy for such people to get detached and they move to the next level of happiness. I've become like that too but only to a certain extent... so don't lose yourself while having fun in life. Whatever you're going through right now will also phase out with time... remember nothing is permanent. Give yourself happiness that you deserve. He might have given you happiness while you were with him... cherish it.. love it... learn to smile when you think of it... but that's gone too.. it's the reality... he's no more with you... detach yourself from feeling about him to get happiness... that is hard but if tried will eventually be good for you... u will grow as a person... this experience will make you stronger... take it positively and see each day as new and fresh to begin with.

Inspired
Jul 19, 2007, 06:47 AM
Diya,

I know what you are saying.Its weird because when I was with him I was happy but depressed (he was always depressed and brought me down). I chose to suppress the depression and ignore it and just focus on the happiness. I should be relieved he's out of my life, but it still hurts that I put up with so much of his crap and he cheated on me and lied to me throughout. Its not that I want him back, I just want a closure.

Inspired
Jul 19, 2007, 07:50 AM
Thanks Oracle,
Its so weird because when I am down, I use no logic. It feels as though nothing will get me out. I had a really odd dream last night. I had a dream that my home was filled with spiders (tranchillas) and alligators. There was a hole where all the spiders were coming from. I tried to kill them but there were too many. I couldn't excape. Then I had another dream about someone having a lot of health problems ( I don't know who or what problems, this dream was hard to remember) and I remember waking up feeling like "gosh people go through so much, I should feel blessed that I dont have major health problems". It was a bitter sweet dream.

jasonpeace
Jul 19, 2007, 08:22 AM
Just relax...

Inspired
Jul 22, 2007, 02:23 PM
Hey Guys,

Quick update: I am doing much better this weekend. I had lots of fun with friends. I will tell you what made me feel better. Saturday I was down again and couldn't concentrate on anything. One of my friends and I went to the mall and I walked into "Bath and Body works" and remembered how 7 months ago (this is before I found out about everything and we were still together) I came into bath and body works to get some type of aromatherapy oil to relieve stress. I remember how drained I was that time and how I was so stressed because of his constant depressive state and stupid thinking. It was a really weird flashback and it was almost if I was watching myself from a third person going 7 months back. That's when I snapped out of it and started to feel much better.

Its still weird though because when I was down, I knew all these things about him and all of his faults and how he would drag me down. However, I was not able to snap out of it for weeks. Maybe I need to go to places where he made me miserable more often to get over him lol.

nicespringgirl
Jul 22, 2007, 02:32 PM
Well then do it! U are succeeding on getting over with him!
And don't forget to study Stallas, I hoppe u pass it the first time, my friend told me it is going to be hard, okay, go back to study now;)

Inspired
Jul 22, 2007, 02:35 PM
Lol nicespringgirl,
Im actually studying stallas for the CFA right now.

nicespringgirl
Jul 22, 2007, 02:52 PM
Lol, I am stuyding now as well... but just can't stop refreshing the webpage, love this website. Good luck on your study,oh, do you have to work for certain years to take the test?

Inspired
Jul 22, 2007, 03:13 PM
No you don't. Since I have my masters and have been in the field of finance for 2 yrs, I should be fine. I think the requirements are a B.S. I love this site as well.

nicespringgirl
Jul 22, 2007, 03:19 PM
no you dont. Since I have my masters and have been in the field of finance for 2 yrs, I should be fine. I think the requirements are a B.S. I love this site as well.
Good, what will be your advice on getting master working in finance field?:rolleyes: Did you work first then get your master? In what? or you went straight to get your master after your undergraduate study?:confused:
I have this feeling that we are doing the same job:D

Inspired
Jul 22, 2007, 03:24 PM
Nicespring, I will email u

Inspired
Aug 2, 2007, 11:32 AM
Update: I am doing much better. Also met someone really wonderful. I am taking it slow but its been a long time since I have had a good feeling about someone. No shadiness and I met him through family (which is always good). He knows my sister. I will be leaving this site but I wish you all the best.

SAB123
Aug 2, 2007, 11:46 AM
Good luck Inspired, in time you will be 100% again.