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Wondergirl
Jul 8, 2007, 10:49 AM
Now that I have your attention -- When I was a teen about a thousand years ago, we depended on our parents or "knowledgeable or experienced" friends for information about sex. Often parents' information was brief and unhelpful; friends' knowledge was too often incorrect. Many of us were virgins when we married because that is just how it was back then. There was a lot of misinformation, so it was often better to err on the side of chastity.

My question is, why in the 21st century are there so many confused teens seeking information, especially with questions about sex? Magazines, books, TV, and the Internet are full of answers to any question one can ask. In fact, there is nothing left to the imagination any more. So why all the confused and lacking-in-knowledge people?

bushg
Jul 8, 2007, 10:56 AM
Some people are just to lazy to read or do research. I think some teens want the reassurance of a live person, esp. if they think they are pregnant.

rockerchick_682
Jul 8, 2007, 11:00 AM
Actually, I don't know, cause I'm one of those teens that will Google information and find out for myself. I'm guessing kids who post on here want to talk about it on a more personal level.

rrcheer2007
Jul 8, 2007, 12:18 PM
I agree with rocker chick!! I am one of those teens!!

But on the other side I grew up where it was not talked about at all! I mean I am only 18 and I lost my verginity this year! I think that it is ridiculous with the girls who do it at 14 15 because that is morally wrong!! I think that when people blame it on there parents that it is bull because everyone noes what sex is ! Exspecially in this century!! I think a lot of girls have questions about it once they have that guilt trip on their shoulder! And I think that the reason teens ask about sex so much is because it is not taught properly all we are taught are the negative aspects of it and not the actually experience! 1

Beckylee
Jul 9, 2007, 08:33 PM
I agree with rocker chick too lol.. . I have a boyfriend now and I have more Q about sex now then I ever did when I didn't have a boyfriend and if I want info I come on here and ask real people lol and at the mo I need help so come check it out loves lol

s_cianci
Jul 9, 2007, 08:44 PM
For much of the same reasons you've mentioned in your post. There may be a lot of "information" out there but much of it is still inaccurate, misinformed and just plain erroneous.

Synnen
Jul 9, 2007, 08:47 PM
Actually, I blame the fact that the last 10 years or so have gone towards teaching abstinance and not much else in sex educations courses.

Parents assume kids learn it there, teachers assume that it's not their place, and lord knows the church just doesn't talk about it.

A lot of the problem comes from people in charge of the teens assuming that the teens learned it from somebody at some point.

Synnen
Jul 9, 2007, 09:24 PM
Wondergirl... Just because they aren't PRACTICING it doesn't mean that they're not TEACHING it.

Look at the vast majority of sex education programs in public schools across the country. There is an incredible amount of time and energy spent preaching abstinence, and hardly any time in comparison teaching kids how to have safe sex and birth control.

I don't think it's RIGHT that teens have sex--but the reality is that they DO have sex. As adults, it's our responsibility to teach them how to do it safely and responsibly. The whole abstinence program was somewhat of a joke from the start---I was a teen when it was first implemented, and it was a laughing matter at our school. PARENTS should teach morals. SCHOOLS should teach common sense approaches to preventing pregnancy and disease.

Wondergirl
Jul 9, 2007, 09:32 PM
So why aren't they teaching what they should? (This will require a book, methinks.)

P.S. Schools and parents used to teach abstinence, and most kids used to be abstinent.

Synnen
Jul 9, 2007, 09:39 PM
Yes, but there are fewer consequences now than there used to be.

It USED to be that if you got pregnant, you either went away and went through an adoption where they ripped away your soul when they took your baby and told you to forget about it as if it never happened

OR

You got married and raised your kid, regardless how suited you really were, so you ended up either in a miserable marriage for the rest of your life, or you divorced and were shunned by polite society for that.

As far as parents teaching abstinence now... I think parents PREACH abstinence, but don't TEACH it. TEACHING it would require making their children morally responsible for themselves, and showing them how to confront situations that might tempt them into sex with a way out. Teaching is NOT telling your kids "Don't have sex! With AIDS and diseases, and you could get pregnant, it's just not worth it! I never want to hear about you having sex! LALALA! I can't hear you ask me about birth control, because you don't need it, because you're not HAVING sex!" --which you have to admit that many parents do.

Honestly, the bigger problem is that so many people don't take responsibility for their own actions, setting the example for teens that they don't have to take responsibility for THEIR actions either.

Wondergirl
Jul 9, 2007, 10:25 PM
Unfortunately, society and popular culture aren't helping. TV shows, magazine articles, novels, video games all scream SEX SEX SEX, so you just got to do it to keep up with what you think everyone else is doing.

Insterestingly, studies are finding that women especially put emotion into even a one-night stand or casual encounter and then feel worthless afterwards when they end up alone. Studies are saying that women can't do this to themselves, can't get through a casual hookup without suffering emotionally. Maybe there's a good reason for females to say no, to hold out for a guy who will complete them physically, mentally, and emotionally. There are historical and biological evidences for this kind of female behavior too, that this is the best way to continue the species. But how does one re-educate the world?

Synnen
Jul 9, 2007, 10:28 PM
One doesn't re-educate the world.

One teaches the women and girls that she loves that there is a time and place for sex, and that self-respect and self-esteem are more important than having a boyfriend or being popular.

Wondergirl
Jul 9, 2007, 10:35 PM
Yes, you re-educate the world one female at a time telling her just what you said.

huno
Jul 9, 2007, 10:50 PM
I wonder about this. How likely is it that anyone will listen to advice given to them? It's not just a matter of telling them they shouldn't give themselves up so easily... they won't listen because they want it so bad. No amount of logic will change their mind. It isn't until they get hurt that they realize the err of their ways.

Wondergirl
Jul 9, 2007, 10:52 PM
I was told no and listened to my parents even though I thought they were wrong. It can be done.

huno
Jul 9, 2007, 10:57 PM
I was told no and listened to my parents even though I thought they were wrong. It can be done.

You have to admit it's a rare occurrence when a kid listens to an adult concerning things that are forbidden.

Take drinking, for example. Kids are told by adults that there are laws in place forbidding them to drink before they're 21. And yet most do it anyway. Why? Because they want it more than anything--alcohol is thrown in their face everywhere, too: movies, video games, advertisements--it's everywhere and it's glamorized. The consequences are rarely talked about in pop culture and, despite the seriousness of the issues surrounding underage drinking and how adamant parents are about telling their kids not to drink until they're of age, kids can't put off drinking.

Sex is the same way. It's just something that's glamorized to the point that it has to be done to keep up, even if there are consequences.

It's great that you listened to your parents; but I happen to know far too many girls that demonstrate the contrary.

Wondergirl
Jul 9, 2007, 11:02 PM
I bet I could match you girl for girl (and boy for boy) -- teens -- in the 21st century, no less, who have listened to their parents and have behaved themselves regarding no drinking and no sex. And I live in the Chicago area. It's all in how a parent communicates and how the "rules" are made.

huno
Jul 9, 2007, 11:03 PM
Really?

I'd love to move out there. Because out here on the west coast it's a whole different story...

Wondergirl
Jul 9, 2007, 11:07 PM
I'm sorry to hear that. There are lots of good kids with good values here, raised by parents who knew how to do it right. Of course, there are losers around too. I was afraid to die and leave the world to what I had thought was a bad generation or two (or three), but my spirits have been lifted over the past five years as I've dealt more personally with young people and found out how rock-solid most of them are.

huno
Jul 9, 2007, 11:23 PM
Not here. Around here it's all Escalades, weed, Paris Hilton and the degenerate sleaze each of those things bring.

In fact, the common complaint I hear from girls around here is that there is no "dating scene." This is right before they jump in bed with a drunken football player.

Skrypt
Jul 10, 2007, 01:53 AM
I don't get smoking. You have to force yourself to like cigs. Really stupid.
(a little off topic.)

Synnen
Jul 10, 2007, 04:03 AM
Skrypt disagrees: uh schools do teach about safe sex. It's mandatory every year I believe in high school or at least 9th grade. You learn a whole lot about safe sex. There was so much we learned on how to prevent pregnancy, protect against stds, and have more fun doing

You were VERY lucky. I had a sex ed course, in 1989 (my 9th grade year), that spent a month on the reproductive systems in humans, and then 2 forms of birth control in every class hour for a week. That's IT. What was emphasized for the birth control was the failure rates, not the best ways to make them work, or the possible side effects, or the fact that combining them could lower your chances of getting pregnant further.

My brother is 8 years younger than I am, and didn't even get that much.

I sat on the school board's committee to select the sex ed program/books/etc my senior year in high school. It was 4 high school students, 4 parents, 2 members of clergy, 2 members of the school board, a judge, an attorney, and 3 teachers. The other students and I fought for MORE information in the class, saying that being informed helped make better decisions.

We were overruled constantly, by ADULTS, who felt that it was a parent's right and obligation to teach their OWN children, and that giving kids that much information was encouraging them to have sex, rather than giving the information they needed. I was disgusted and put down on the record as one of 5 dissenting voices on the final choice--3 students, 1 teacher, and the attorney all said that the "abstinence program" was idiotic, but were overruled.

So YES, some school systems are informed and do give good information, but the vast majority lean towards teaching abstinence.

prayerlord
Jul 10, 2007, 10:46 PM
Now that I have your attention -- When I was a teen about a thousand years ago, we depended on our parents or "knowledgeable or experienced" friends for information about sex. Often parents' information was brief and unhelpful; friends' knowledge was too often incorrect. Many of us were virgins when we married because that is just how it was back then. There was a lot of misinformation, so it was often better to err on the side of chastity.

My question is, why in the 21st century are there so many confused teens seeking information, especially with questions about sex? Magazines, books, tv, and the Internet are full of answers to any question one can ask. In fact, there is nothing left to the imagination any more. So why all the confused and lacking-in-knowledge people?
U know what girl... (im a guy)... screw sex... make sure your ready!! Meet the guy you love most and then get laid.. j/k

synonim
Aug 27, 2007, 02:17 PM
Now that I have your attention -- When I was a teen about a thousand years ago, we depended on our parents or "knowledgeable or experienced" friends for information about sex. Often parents' information was brief and unhelpful; friends' knowledge was too often incorrect. Many of us were virgins when we married because that is just how it was back then. There was a lot of misinformation, so it was often better to err on the side of chastity.

My question is, why in the 21st century are there so many confused teens seeking information, especially with questions about sex? Magazines, books, tv, and the Internet are full of answers to any question one can ask. In fact, there is nothing left to the imagination any more. So why all the confused and lacking-in-knowledge people?
It is all the massive amounts on the misinformation about sex. Sex was simple at one time, a woman only had sex with her husband, or one boyfriend before that. If she was no longer capable of providing for her husband sexually she support him have a mistress. Pretty black and white. Now a days women are telling women that they can have all the sex they want risk free, except, it is not risk free, it devastates women emotionally. Or they become men, sex changes, and all that, be like a man, that is what society tells a woman, don't be like a woman.

shayloveantwan
Aug 27, 2007, 02:29 PM
Now that I have your attention -- When I was a teen about a thousand years ago, we depended on our parents or "knowledgeable or experienced" friends for information about sex. Often parents' information was brief and unhelpful; friends' knowledge was too often incorrect. Many of us were virgins when we married because that is just how it was back then. There was a lot of misinformation, so it was often better to err on the side of chastity.

My question is, why in the 21st century are there so many confused teens seeking information, especially with questions about sex? Magazines, books, tv, and the Internet are full of answers to any question one can ask. In fact, there is nothing left to the imagination any more. So why all the confused and lacking-in-knowledge people?
Because people in general are to to lazy to look up the answer themselves.That simple.

firmbeliever
Sep 3, 2007, 05:48 PM
I agree with wondergirl,
In today's age we find more unwanted pregnancies and I do not think it is lack of knwoledge but more to do with carelessness and carefree attitudes of many.
As someone said most do not believe when people talk about single mothers and their hardhsips,these are just old wives tales to some,but when they face it themselves it is too late.

About sex -ed, we never had that while I was in school around 1996,but one day all the girls from 7th up till 10th grade were informed about menstrual cycle and all the diseases attached to sexual activities.
They even showed slides of AIDs patients in their deteriorating stages.Some slides showed diseased sexual organs, most of us did not have an appetite that day for sure.
And I have a feeling that most of us present there remained virgins a long time...

For me personally,call it parental guidance or religious guidance or part of my old romance book readings, but I always thought that my husband should be the first... and after marriage. I felt it was a treasure to be kept until marriage,not something I would willingly give up on a whim.
And I am so glad I did.
As I know many of my friends who used to have one physical relationship after another,some have settled down,but the ones they married lack in their eyes because they have so much to compare with and some have even divorced and gotten away from good marriages because they think some other guy/girl is more sexier than their spouses.

Another thing as someone on this thread mentioned,
Sex is glamourised,as drinking and smoking.Teens get the impression that the ones not doing it are boring fools.The hip ones are those getting it on with one or another until they find the right one,who I may say sometimes passes by because their concentration is so much on the physical aspect and less on the emotional aspect of relationships.

This is just my opinion.