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Mocha
Jul 1, 2007, 07:14 AM
I am a happily married man for over 5 years now. Recently, my wife traveled to Hong Kong for a business trip (5 months assignment). So, I got to stay in the house by myself. I developed a habit now is having a need to go to a strip club. I have already gone 3 times in a month and I am seeing myself going to there more before my wife gets back. I am writing this to see what other people think about this? Does my action considered to be cheating on my wife? How can I stop thinking mentally not to go there? What do you think about a married man going to strip club on his own? Confused man... :confused:

Angel eyes22
Jul 1, 2007, 07:55 AM
Hey,I'm not married , but I'm sure your feelings will change when your wife gets back. I don't see this as cheating but as away of meeting your needs although I would be quite unhappy if some told me or my boyfriend told me that they were going to a strip club. And you don't want to get spotted there either. It seems to becoming a habit but at least your not doing anything with theses girls but you should keep stuff like that for you and your wife. Hope things get better

Fr_Chuck
Jul 1, 2007, 08:19 AM
Why are you going, are you trying to take one of the dancers back home, how much money are you spending there, can you afford to spend that money.

If you were going one time with a group of friends for a party before they got married, or some special event, and your wife is fully aware you are going, it is no problem.

If you are ashamed to admit to your wife you are going, it is wrong, and while I am guessing at the reasons you are going, I would say you are going for some wrong reasons.

chiquita_bandita
Jul 1, 2007, 08:20 AM
I used to be a dancer, so I'll try to answer for you.

A majority of the guys in the strip club are married or with someone, so you're not alone in that respect.

Whether it's considered cheating would ultimately be up to your wife, as everyone's definition of cheating is different. If you think your wife would be mad about it, then it's probably not something you should be doing.

If you want to stop going, there's a couple things you could do. First, is it possible to spice things up with your wife either on the internet or over the phone? It sounds like you're missing her companionship and looking for it elsewhere, so maybe you two could start having sexy phone conversations, sending each other racy emails and IM's, that sort of thing. Just be 100% sure it's safe to send your wife emails (because she's there for work, you wouldn't want to get her in trouble if she's on a work computer).

Second, if you want a good reason to stay out of the club, I'll be perfectly honest. The girls there just want your money. They'll sit and talk with you and act like you're the only person in the world as long as you're spending. At the end of the night, they count it up and laugh all the way to the bank.

Third, find something else to do when you get the urge to go out. Call up a friend and go do something together. Maybe find a hobby. Buy a couple of adult magazines to satisfy your curiosity. Try an adult bookstore/novelty shop... they have lots of things there you can use for "alone time".

Just be assured, you're perfectly normal! And the fact that you are concerned about your wife's feelings speaks volumes.

SameOldSituation
Jul 1, 2007, 08:06 PM
Fr Chuck,

I'm a bit surprised by your answer. The Bible clearly states that lust of the heart is adultery. Of course, we all sin, and we all lust at times. I won't deny that. But, the Bible also says that you should cut off the source of your sins. I'm not sure if the poster is religious, but, being a priest, I'd expect and desire more answers based upon the Christian faith. I'm pretty disappointed.

Mocha, man, I'd challenge yourself to be the best guy you can. You can listen to all other poster's answers, and not mine, and many may disagree with me---I mean, that's fine. Different opinions from other people. But, based on the simple fact that you're teetering with the idea that it MAY be a bad thing--and came looking for advice here--I think you know what you should be doing. Do the right thing, bro. Cut off the source. Be proud in doing the right thing.

HeyMan
Jul 2, 2007, 04:12 AM
I think you should honestly talk to your wife about going to strip club when she is gone. She shouldn't be mad at you if you tell her the truth.
If you love your wife, tell her how you feel...
Mocha, I don't think it is a good idea to get into a habit going to the strip clubs, those gals just want your money.
But at least, I think it is better for you to go to the strip clubs than having sex with other gals... THAT WOULD BE A BIG PROBLEM!

Kattalover
Jul 2, 2007, 07:16 AM
But, the Bible also says that you should cut off the source of your sins.

So what's a man to do? Cut off Big Jim & the Twins? LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist!

SameOldSituation
Jul 2, 2007, 08:51 AM
Haha... funny mrs. bobbit! But, here, ridding the source would be eliminating factors which stimulate the lust, and, in this particular case, going to the strip club.

Look, I understand the reality that it is tough---especially for this poor guy---his wife's all the way in China! But, you got to do the right thing. Doing the right thing very often is tough. We all know that.

I'm also aware that he, I, and everyone else will still have lustful thoughts in our lives. But... and this is my opinion... (and I by no means regard my opnion as the utmost correct one)... it's important to work on your sins as hard as you possibly can. Of course you'll still screw up. But if you can eliminate things, then, hey, do it!

It's VERY easy to say "hey man, a guy's got needs...I mean, come onnnnnnnnn!" Trust me, I know. It's also easy to say "gee i don't see a big deal....i mean, would you rather him be having an affair?" Heck, I say things like that myself sometimes!

But that is fallacy, and it avoids the matter-at-hand.

Again, my more religious talk may not even be of interest to the poster, nor may it even have a place in the Adult Sexuality forum---I was simply disappointed to see a Priest with the title "Super Moderator" on the Forum that claims to give "Live Help from Real Experts!" say that there is a "wrong" reason for going----like there is ever a right reason to go---to lust in the heart. The Bible I read would speak against attending--even if it were for a bachelor party.

It's easy to get caught up in secular views and say "ohhhh come on....nothing that bad going on give me a break." Easy indeed.

smoothy
Jul 2, 2007, 08:54 AM
I like seeing women naked. Doesn't mean I like my wife any less. Never went out with a stripper and never tried to either.

SameOldSituation
Jul 2, 2007, 08:58 AM
Eff it. I can't win a secular battle with religious talk. Think what you want, bro.

alkaline
Jul 2, 2007, 09:13 AM
It's VERY easy to say "hey man, a guy's got needs...I mean, come onnnnnnnnn!" Trust me, I know. It's also easy to say "gee i don't see a big deal....i mean, would you rather him be having an affair?" Heck, I say things like that myself sometimes!

But that is fallacy, and it avoids the matter-at-hand.

Again, my more religious talk may not even be of interest to the poster, nor may it even have a place in the Adult Sexuality forum---I was simply disappointed to see a Priest with the title "Super Moderator" on the Forum that claims to give "Live Help from Real Experts!" say that there is a "wrong" reason for going----like there is ever a right reason to go---to lust in the heart. The Bible I read would speak against attending--even if it were for a bachelor party.

It's easy to get caught up in secular views and say "ohhhh come on....nothing that bad going on give me a break." Easy indeed.

I'm happy to see someone that feels the way I do on this issue. When I posted in a thread previously giving my opinion I got attacked with "boys will be boys" and "you are insecure" and things of that nature.

It comes down to opinion, as I said before. In my opinion, going to a strip club is cheating. I have zero tolerance for it. Other people may feel differently, and that is fine, but I wouldn't be in a relationship with them.

I agree with you that there is never a "right" reason to go. Not even for a "bachelor party." Personally, I think if you're about to get married to someone because you love them so much the LAST thing on your mind should be wanting to give other women that dance around you naked money... but that's just how I feel about it. I guess some women wouldn't care, I'm just not one of them.

The only thing I disargee with you on is the "secular views" part. Maybe from your perspective and you being Christian and trying to really follow the Bible in your life (which I respect, by the way, many people call themselves Christian and don't seem to try and live a Christian life at all) you think that this is based on "secular views."

I'm an Atheist. So were my last two boyfriends. We all agree with what you think about this. You can be Atheist or "secular" and still have strong moral values that you live your life by. I do everyday. I have my opinions on right and wrong, many of which would probably be similar to those in the Bible, that I live by just like you.

smart701
Jul 2, 2007, 10:01 AM
Hello Guys,

Well my English is not very good, but I try to write this message hoping to give help to you Mocha,
Lets get away a bit from religion, If you hear that your wife is going to a strip club in Hongkong and maybe she is dating someone there, what would your reaction be? So please put yourself in the place of your wife and try to think 1000 times.

americangayboy
Jul 2, 2007, 10:31 AM
If you feel guilty about going, you should not be going! Talk to your wife about it and see if there is anything she can do to "ease the pain." I really thought that previous post about adult magazines was good advice. Of course, you should let your wife know about it so she's not taken by surprise when she finds "Jugs" when she comes home.

Also, I agree with smoothy. Just looking isn't cheating (to me) but you should consider what your wife would think.

self_lnflicted_hell
Jul 3, 2007, 05:55 AM
I am a happily married man for over 5 years now. Recently, my wife traveled to Hong Kong for a business trip (5 months assignment). So, I got to stay in the house by myself. I developed a habit now is having a need to go to a strip club. I have already gone 3 times in a month and I am seeing myself going to there more before my wife gets back. I am writing this to see what other people think about this? Does my action considered to be cheating on my wife? How can I stop thinking mentally not to go there? What do you think about a married man going to strip club on his own? Confused man ... :confused:
I think you already know the answer, you pretty much told yourself in your post... "Does my action considered to be cheating on my wife? How can I stop thinking mentally not to go there?" You feel bad about it and you feel that in some way it's wrong. I think it's wrong, I'd be devastated if I found out that my boyfriend of 2 years was frequenting strip clubs and the like. I'd feel like I'm not good enough for him.

trudiloulou
Jul 3, 2007, 06:00 AM
I am a happily married man for over 5 years now. Recently, my wife traveled to Hong Kong for a business trip (5 months assignment). So, I got to stay in the house by myself. I developed a habit now is having a need to go to a strip club. I have already gone 3 times in a month and I am seeing myself going to there more before my wife gets back. I am writing this to see what other people think about this? Does my action considered to be cheating on my wife? How can I stop thinking mentally not to go there? What do you think about a married man going to strip club on his own? Confused man ... :confused:
Omg if my husband did that while I was away I would kill him and as a wife yes I think its cheating are we as wife's not good enough for you?

njrider69
Jul 24, 2007, 03:29 PM
Hello Mocha--

I understand what you are saying as I am in the same boat.
When my wife and kids are away, my behaviour is similar: visit a strip club, get a massage, rent X flicks, etc.

I know it is something she will be deeply hurt by, but I cannot control myself. I rationalize that at least I am not taking a lover, etc. But this is a hard thing to overcome.

Its not that I don't have other friends and activities to occupy with. Just somehow feel a bad side of me takes over. It is possible to overcome this eventually, and I am myself working hard. Care to join?

lostinatrance
Jul 24, 2007, 03:41 PM
Would watching porn instead of going to a strip club?

talaniman
Jul 24, 2007, 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Mocha
I am a happily married man for over 5 years now. I developed a need to go to a strip club. I have already gone 3 times in a month, and I am seeing myself going to there more before my wife gets back.


What started as a lark by a bored fellow, has escalated to an obsesion, because you can't think of any constructive way to spend your time. Enjoying it once is fine no problem, but if that's all you do I suggest you call a close friend, and have him tie you up or something. That you asked for help is good, and shows you recognise that it is becoming a problem, now stay away and do something else with your freedom.

SnaveLeber
Aug 3, 2007, 11:21 PM
Very very good

gallivant_fellow
Oct 8, 2007, 02:47 PM
If you have any problem, shouldn't the love of your life and the woman you chose to be with forever be the first person to go to? In this case, the problem is even about her, she should have been the first person you went to.

I admire you for feeling guilty. It shows you care about your wife, but maybe you don't even have to feel guilty. Talk to her about it.

PixieMama
Oct 8, 2007, 03:01 PM
Are you doing something your wife would consider cheating? I am married. My husband knows how I feel and what I do consider cheating. And I DO consider a married man going to a strip club without his wife, to be cheating. If you feel ashamed by it, then I think you have the answer you want right there. If you have to ask strangers if what you are doing is wrong, then I think you know in your heart that it is. You should know how your wife would feel.

If you are going there because you are lonely, call up a friend to hang out with. If you are going because you are horny, look at porn. At least with porn you and your wife can both feel better knowing that some other woman isn't actually grinding her naughty bits all over you. On the other hand, maybe you enjoy that sort of thing. Maybe your wife is the type of woman who isn't jealous and wouldn't mind a lap dance or two. You would know better then we would how she feels about that.

I would suggest letting your wife know what you've been up to. Whether it counts as cheating depends on what she defines as cheating.

N0help4u
Oct 8, 2007, 04:45 PM
I saw this on Eye for an Eye a TV court show where the Judge picks unusual 'pay backs'
The wife took her hubby to court because she was sick of him going to strip clubs.
Judge Extreme Akim had the wife learn to strip and then the next time he went to the
Strip club SURPRISE his wife came out stripping and he ran up and threw his jacket around her. So the moral of the story is think of how you would feel if other guys were to see your wife strip. Think of how these women are somebody else's daughter, girlfriend and wife.

If you still want to go, really check your motives and consider the consequences of if your wife finds out.
Often a girlfriend or a boyfriend, husband or wife, will do something one time or for a very short time and then realize it could ruin their relationship and realize how much it means to them to not take the chance and months later after they quit the other finds out and either will not forgive them and end the relationship OR forgive them BUT totally lose their trust and then they want to know everything you are doing, where you were, why you were late. They turn into a real nag and constantly thinking the worse and accusing. Then the relationship ends up ruined because they can't find any way to get rid of the mistrust they have.

stonewilder
Oct 8, 2007, 04:56 PM
I see nothing wrong with it as long as your wife is aware that you're going and she's OK with it. Although I take it she doesn't know... that's not good.

RustyFairmount
Oct 9, 2007, 06:13 PM
Whether it's cheating or not, you should stop going. First, the beers are expensive at strip clubs. Second, a 3 minute lap dance will cost you $20. My guess is that you spend no less than $100 every trip.

Why not spend that money on your wife? Heck, after a couple months of saving, you could afford to take a flight out to meet her!

smoothy
Oct 10, 2007, 04:46 AM
When I went I would nurse a drink along for about 45 minutes, and tip each dancer a $1 each turn at the stage. Lap dances aren't legal here nor would I spend $20 on one even if it was.

You can get out of there cheap like I did, or you can throw away a huge sum of money real quick. And to me that's plain stupid.

godofthunder75
Mar 23, 2009, 12:12 AM
You are worrying waaaay too much about this. There seems to be an issue heer nobody is addressing; Your wife is away on a business trip for 5 months! I assume she is coming into contact with all kinds of other men both personally and professionaally, and although I can not state with 100% certainty, I would say the odds scream in favor that she is also getting her needs met on the side. Don't fool yourself. I say go to the club ( as long as you can afford it) and maybe get a little piece on the side for yourself. Whaat's good for the goose...

Choux
Mar 23, 2009, 04:36 AM
Mocha,

Did you and your wife discuss the lack of sexual contact on BOTH your parts for all those months. If not, why??

Stop going to strip clubs... they are a bad influence on your psyche just like porn is. Don't become an effer, be a lover. :)

This is a good time for you to take up a sport and get into good condition.

Don't tell yourself you NEED the stimulation of a strip club excessively... you are making yourself weak and self-centered.

Good luck! :)

Synnen
Mar 23, 2009, 05:59 AM
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