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kiko
Jun 26, 2005, 10:27 AM
Hey all,

Has anyone ordered to the whiterskin products? It is already released but currently out of stock. I must say, it's cheaper than Makari's cream. I hope it'll be more effective. Anyhow, if anyone tried it, don't forget to post your results! I'm still waiting for the restock.

kkasey1982
Jun 26, 2005, 02:35 PM
Hey kiko. I got an email from them saying that their website is up but they ahvnt started selling it yet. Anyway I have used the samples and it works really well. If your skin is really sensitive, I would use only a little since its pretty concentrated. There are some pictures on http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/brighterskin/

hindude
Jul 2, 2005, 08:59 PM
Whiterskin cream works but it takes longer than the 2 weeks they state on their site

newton
Aug 19, 2005, 06:05 PM
:( :( I have used it for almost 2 months and am done with 2 bottles. I did not see any difference in my skin color. In fact sometimes I felt sad when my friend told me that I look darker. 2 months of use and this is the comment!

I haven't tried other products so I cannot recommend another one. But stay away from this at least and people endorsing this product on websites like this.. the comments are totally skewed.

There policy do not allow returns too. Crap... they say they have high demand.. BS! :(

kkasey1982
Aug 24, 2005, 01:48 PM
Hey nikki, don't worry herbal inn doesn't have mercury. Plus I think these people are just trying to spread rumors to shut down whiterskin. I would try herbalinn... it works prety well and its cheap. I was using whiterskin which worked too, but herbal inn is like half the price. The admin of the other site posted this about the rumors:



This is really getting out of hand. I have received some nasty emails
From the whiterskin company and other members so I feel the need to
Set this all straight.

I can understand that since I go to school in Champaign and that the
Whiterskin company is located in the same city, there is reason for
Some to believe there are other "conspiricies" going on behind the
Scenes. I had no idea that a simple eBay auction would cause so much
Trouble, but if you look at the straight facts, the only "suspicious"
One is the fact that the cities are the same (which is not a
Coincendence.. I'll explain in a bit). Yes I go to school in Champaign.
The city is home to one of the biggest universities in the country and
Is also a hotspot for research. Conveniently, the best place to have
Any product tested would be at the school's labs since they are only a
Few blocks away. The tests I had performed on several products was
Done at my school by some close friends under the supervision of
Professors. This is one of the main reasons I did not want to reveal
Their identities because I knew something like this may arise.
Secondly, I think there is some confusion on the results from the
Herbal inn product that was tested. The herbal inn I sent them was NOT
From this new website herbalinn.com. The jars I received were donated
To me by another member and were purchased by some lady who was
Selling them through the United Arab Emirates. I have not been
Following the discussions on herbal inn, so I have no idea if this is
The same product that is now being sold on the website. The jars I
Received were small, plastic and unlabeled. The cream was an off white
Color and thick texture and had somewhat of a pleasant smell. Again,
The results that I posted were based on these creams and not the ones
Being sold out of New York. At the time they were tested, the website
Herbalinn.com did not even exist and most people believed that the
Herbal inn source from UAE had disappeared. There was no intention on
Bad mouthing the New York based company since it did not even exist at
The time (to my best knowledge). I have no idea if the New York based
Products are even remotely the same as the ones from UAE.

Finally , the second issue with the eBay auction. I have already
Addressed on these forums before that BigFat is a friend of mine who I
Introduced to these forums after meeting him in my school's
Residential housing. Personally, I have stopped using skin whitening
Products, but BigFat was keen on using the old herbal inn since it
Worked well for him. From what he told me, he auctioned off his used
Jars after his face started getting really sensitive and red. After
This, I decided to test herbal inn along with the other bundle of
Products to see what was really going on. The Whiterskin cream was
Included in the bunch since I discovered their company and saw they
Were local (after seeing a flyer on campus many months ago) and I
Thought there might be potential in creating a relationship with them
To provide our members a discount. Since bigfat and I were the first
Ones to know about the company, I think he felt the need to introduce
His experience on the forums. This, I believe is what led up to all
The hype and drama. I don't think the Whiterskin company expected such
A large promotion since they are just a small shop putting out flyers
On campus. But I agree that their advertising is done very well and is
One of the main reasons bigfat was so excited to introduce them to the
Online forums. I was told by some members that their supply was
Delayed and what not so this could have been the reason why. Finally,
The auctions for the beakers and such were purchased for me by bigfat
Since we decided to try and test a few other products ourselves using
What we learned from our friends at the lab. I can tell you that it
Takes a lot more than a couple of beakers to create a skin cream.

Now, if you don't want to believe all of this, that's fine. If you
Don't care to use whiterskin, I could not care less. The only thing I
Ask is that you please keep this sort of drama off the forums since
Its causing problems not only for me, but for other companies like
Herbal inn. I do not want any of these groups taking legal action
Against myself or anyone associated with the lab tests. I hope you can
Understand this. If you have any questions, just email me. Thanks.

Tricksh0t

Skinwhite
Aug 26, 2005, 02:41 AM
Niki I don't blame u. I wouldn't buy it either with that information. Sounds fishy to me.

lighthouse
Aug 28, 2005, 02:13 PM
whiterskin cream works but it takes longer than the 2 weeks they state on their site

I understand that a slim margin claim to have had results with whiterskin, but makari works but it takes LESS than the 2 weeks they state on their site. I don't have the time for products that take over six weeks or more to work. If it takes that long then: one, there isn't as high of concentration of the ingredients(i.e. licotrice, mulberry, etc.) to be effective, but just enough to be allowed to put it on the ingredient list, or second, it's just an outright placebo...

sharon1
Sep 2, 2005, 01:37 PM
I understand that a slim margin claim to have had results with whiterskin, but makari works but it takes LESS than the 2 weeks they state on their site. I don't have the time for products that take over six weeks or more to work. If it takes that long then: one, there isn't as high of concentration of the ingredients(i.e. licotrice, mulberry, etc.) to be effective, but just enough to be allowed to put it on the ingredient list, or second, it's just an outright placebo...

Makari I know works for people, but for some reason my skin did not tolerate it. Also it is not permanent at all. I stopped using it and in a few days my skin was darker again. The whiterskin cream is taking a little longer but I think the results are more long lasting since I've been out of town over the weekend I forgot to pack it with me but my skin is still light. The one thing I don't like about is that it does dry your skin out a lot like people say. But other than that its great. I am on my second jar and loving it.

babyfat
Sep 5, 2005, 02:00 AM
Okay.. all this is really confusing the hell out of me here. I duno what the hell is wrong wit people but on all these skin care sites you got a million people dissin and praisin products left and right... I duno what to believe. Anyway so I took the leap and bought the whiterskin cream and been using it for about 2 maybe 3 weeks. Yeah its lightened my skin up prety good but my main issue is DO I Got to KEEP USIN THIS FOREVER? I isn't about to spend $40 a month just on my face. Im afraid if I stop using it , I'm going to get darker again and I can't waste another 2 weeks getting it back to the color I am now. On the site these guys claim the cream is permanent but I highly doubt that if its all natural like they say. Can somoen tell me if there's anything out there that's permanent. I like the results of the whiterskin cream but I don't think any natural product is going to keep the results you know. People say with makary you get darker again too. Does the magic cream permanent? Please give me some HONEST advice here.. I don't want to hear from the merchants.

dimples
Sep 5, 2005, 08:48 AM
So I guess you found your product. If whiterskin cream did wonders for you, then stick to it. So what if it costs you? Your face is the first thing people see. If your face is not worth your $40, then I don't know what is. Be good to yourself & make yourself happy. :)

nikkicute
Sep 5, 2005, 10:29 AM
okay..all this is really confusing the hell outta me here. i duno what the hell is wrong wit people but on all these skin care sites you got a million people dissin and praisin products left and right ...i duno what to believe. anyway so i took the leap and bought the whiterskin cream and been usin it for abotu 2 maybe 3 weeks. yeah its lightened my skin up prety good but my main issue is DO I GOTTA KEEP USIN THIS FOREVER?? I aint about to spend $40 a month jsut on my face. Im afraid if i stop usin it , im gona get darker again and i can't waste another 2 weeks gettin it back to the color i am now. on the site these guys claim the cream is permanent but i highly doubt that if its all natural like they say. can somoen tell me if theres anything out there thats permanent. i like the results of the whiterskin cream but i dont think any natural product is gona keep the results u know. people say with makary you get darker again too. does the magic cream permanent? please give me some HONEST advice here..i dont want to hear from the merchants.


Hello, nikki here.

I'm afraid that the only thing that is permanaent is benoquin but that is not a lightener that is a coplete de-pigmentation product(Micheal J.)
There is no going back with that cream.

You will always have to do use the skin lightening products to maintain your lightening. If you protect your skin and use sunscreen EVERYDAY and try to avoid the sun you will not have to apply the lightening that often.

charité
Sep 8, 2005, 01:03 AM
Hey all,

Has anyone ordered to the whiterskin products? It is already released but currently out of stock. I must say, it's cheaper than Makari's cream. I hope it'll be more effective. Anyhow, if anyone tried it, don't forget to post your results! I'm still waiting for the restock.


where is this manufactured?

how come M. Jackson's name keep on coming out.. haha!

babyfat
Sep 18, 2005, 05:47 PM
Wasup girlies. Wanted to give everyone the heads up about that whiterskin cream I'm using. So far so great ill say. Face, nack and upper chest are looking really nice and lighter. My mom was saying my face looked like it cleared up which is weird because I don't have acne. What I was worried about was how permanent the cream is. I stopped using it twice a day and now I only use it before I sleep right after I wash my face. I haven't gotten any darker but also I have not been outside in the hot days very much. Its starting to cool down here so that's good. I think I can keep this color until spring which will be just lovely. :D

somy
Sep 19, 2005, 11:26 AM
Hi All,

I am very new to this forum. I was planning on buying whiterskin cream. I happened to read all your comments and I am totally confused on the reviews. I have an Asian complexion(not too fair nor dark). I have an acne prone skin. Can anyone let me know the actual facts of the whiterskin cream product. Will this really work for me? Or is it a Scam?

Thanks,
Somy

nikkicute
Sep 19, 2005, 11:17 PM
Hi All,

I am very new to this forum. I was planning on buying whiterskin cream. I happened to read all your comments and i am totally confused on the reviews. I have an Asian complexion(not too fair nor dark). I have an acne prone skin. Can anyone let me know the actual facts of the whiterskin cream product. Will this really work for me? or is it a Scam?

Thanks,
Somy

Well not every cream will work for every person.

I'd say give it a try, buy the small jar. Unfortunately they do not have a money back guarantee so it's on you.

As far as the scam thing goes, I don't know and do not have all the facts but as far as me, I'm sticking to Fair and Flawless and staying away from Whiterskin until I learn more of who is behind the cream first.

amisha
Sep 20, 2005, 01:07 AM
Hi Nikki
I was trying to buy F&F products but I donno why but for some reasons F&F people seems to me not interested to sell their products to me!! I emailed them and stated my interest but after 1 reply ,they didn't reply my inquires !

Today I have send them an email again... I m waiting for their reply ,if they don't reply this time I think I will give up !

BTW Nikky which products of F&F are you using now? And how many shades you have lightened??

nikkicute
Sep 20, 2005, 03:30 AM
Hi Nikki
i was trying to buy F&F products but i donno why but for some reasons F&F poeple seems to me not interested to sell their products to me !!!! I emailed them and stated my interest but after 1 reply ,they didnt reply my inquires !

Today i have send them an email agian ...I m waiting for their reply ,if they dont reply this time I think I will give up !

BTW Nikky which products of F&F are u using now? and how many shades u have lightened????

I think it's better to just call them and ask questions.

I have never had a problem with getting a response from e-mail, but of course I e-mail them in the morning so my e-mail is one of the first ones they get.

I don't think you should give up on them because they don't answer e-mails. I know that sucks! Makes it look like their customers service is bad but it's not. I have always had good experiences with them. Their products are good.

I am using the Fair and Flawless cream, just started to use it again.

I just finished a Skin Culture Peel and you are not suppose to use any other products while using the peel.

The peel set me back a shade! :mad:
I used the cream before and looked lighter after a week and a half.

Who knows how many e-mails they get per day probably asking questions that they can get answered if only they would read the website first.

Just get the cream to start with, I think you'll like it. :)

amisha
Sep 20, 2005, 10:12 PM
I don't want to give up ,I want to use it but what can I do... how can I purchase their products if they don't sell it to me??

I can't call them because I don't live in USA... its today again they haven't replied yet!!

Waiting... waiting.. waiting...

nikkicute
Sep 21, 2005, 01:48 AM
i dont want to give up ,i want to use it but what can i do ...how can i purchase their products if they dont sell it to me????

i can't call them because i dont live in USA ...its today again they havn't replied yet !!!

waiting...waiting..waiting....

You can't call them? Why not? They have customers from outside the USA.

There are others that I know of who ordered the cream from the U.K and beyond.

Well do you have a credit card? You can e-mail the sales e-mail address and give them your information or order and ask how much the shipping will be?

Where do you live?

somy
Sep 21, 2005, 04:45 PM
Thanks Nikkicute

nikkicute
Sep 22, 2005, 06:04 AM
Thanks Nikkicute

Your welcome. :)

amisha
Sep 22, 2005, 04:55 PM
HI Nikki I live in australia ! I was trying to order their custom formulation but before that I had some questions on their custom formulation products ,like what are the ingridents they going to use.. this type of normal questions! But their customs service are so bad ! I wonder how they doing their business!
Anywayz Nikki are you using F&F on body also? If so, did it lighten your body?









You can't call them? Why not? They have customers from outside the USA.

There are others that I know of who ordered the cream from the U.K and beyond.

Well do you have a credit card? You can e-mail the sales e-mail address and give them your information or order and ask how much the shipping will be?

Where do you live??

nikkicute
Sep 23, 2005, 09:27 AM
hI Nikki i live in australia ! i was trying to order their custom formulation but before that i had some questions on their custom formulation products ,like what r the ingridents they going to use ..this type of normal questions! but their customs service r so bad ! i wonder how they doin their business!
anywayz Nikki r u using F&F on body also? if so, did it lighten ur body?

Whoohoo! Those custom formulations are EXPENSIVE! :eek:

Did you read the site on how to go about getting the custom formula's?
Did you do any of these steps before e-mailing them?

How custom formulations work.
To get the information we need to custom-tailor your Fair & Flawless® whitening system, we use a simple, proven successful process.

Step 1: Take close-up photos of your current skin tone.

Step 2: Collect photos of your desired new skin tone. You can use magazine clippings of celebrities etc, or take pictures of family members or friends who have the skin tone you would like.

Step 3: Fill in our Consultation Intake Form. This will give our skincare experts and chemists an understanding of you as an individual, along with important information about your skin's specific needs.

Step 4: Mail items 1-3.

I know of someone who lives in Amsterdam who got her custom made products, so I'm sure they can get products to you. Linda (co-owner) of Fair and Flawless says they have customers all over the world.

But let me know if you did steps 1-4 first. If you didn't well maybe that is why they did not answer your e-mails. Like I said before, who knows how many e-mails they get everyday. I think the people who send in their pictures and fill in the consultation forms are the ones who they know are ready to purchase the products.

Since these are custom made formula's they would have to see your pictures first and see how light you want to get in order to find out which ingredients they will use.

The ingredients they will use in one cutomers creams will not be the same as yours. That's why they are called custom made. You might want to get 3 shades lighter while someone else will want to get 5 or 6 shades lighter. Obviously they are going to make theirs stronger then yours and add whatever ingredients they need to add to make the cream.

amisha
Sep 23, 2005, 05:22 PM
Hi Nikki I already followed those steps! I have emailed them my photo and they emailed me back mentioning that how much I have to pay before ordering those customs formulation but the amount they asked me to pay its for both face and thebody but I want to order for face first ! Then I asked them is it possible to order only for face now! But they did reply after that ! I felt to weird ,if they don't want to take order only for face ,they could v mentioned it to me !
Since then I ve emailed them for few times but my badaluck yet no reply!









































whoohoo!! Those custom formulations are EXPENSIVE!!:eek:

Did you read the site on how to go about getting the custom formula's??
Did you do any of these steps before e-mailing them?

How custom formulations work.
To get the information we need to custom-tailor your Fair & Flawless® whitening system, we use a simple, proven successful process.

Step 1: Take close-up photos of your current skin tone.

Step 2: Collect photos of your desired new skin tone. You can use magazine clippings of celebrities etc, or take pictures of family members or friends who have the skin tone you would like.

Step 3: Fill in our Consultation Intake Form. This will give our skincare experts and chemists an understanding of you as an individual, along with important information about your skin's specific needs.

Step 4: Mail items 1-3.

I know of someone who lives in Amsterdam who got her custom made products, so I'm sure they can get products to you. Linda (co-owner) of Fair and Flawless says they have customers all over the world.

But let me know if you did steps 1-4 first. If you didn't well maybe that is why they did not answer your e-mails. Like I said before, who knows how many e-mails they get everyday. I think the people who send in their pictures and fill in the consultation forms are the ones who they know are ready to purchase the products.

Since these are custom made formula's they would have to see your pictures first and see how light you want to get in order to find out which ingredients they will use.

The ingredients they will use in one cutomers creams will not be the same as yours. That's why they are called custom made. You might want to get 3 shades lighter while someone else will want to get 5 or 6 shades lighter. Obviously they are going to make theirs stronger then yours and add whatever ingredients they need to add to make the cream.

nikkicute
Sep 24, 2005, 08:01 AM
hi Nikki i already followed those steps! i have emailed them my photo and they emailed me back mentioning that how much i have to pay before ordering those customs formulation but the amount they asked me to pay its for both face and thebody but i want to order for face first ! then i asked them is it possible to order only for face now! but they did reply after that ! i felt to weird ,if they dont want to take order only for face ,they could v mentioned it to me !
since then i ve emailed them for few times but my badaluck yet no reply!

I don't know what else to do then to call them. I know it's long distance and you will have to call late at night to talk to them when they open in the morning because you live in Australia, but I have no idea what more they want.

You did the steps and they still won't answer? What's going on?
That's not good.
Just give them a call and have all your information ready so they will have an idea of who you are.

Hopefully it will work out better if you call and explain you want the custom made creams just for your face only.

What else can you do?

Brennan
Sep 24, 2005, 08:26 AM
You're price is very low considering that I asked almost all the Distributors in the philippines. THey all claimed that there was a price increase and the MSRP for the large one is P660 or 770 and you're selling it for P500. Is this not against any rules and regulations of Amira? Are you the ones that they called cross trader?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:




Like what I have posted on the other thread for your Skin problem especially on your FACE, UNDERARM and WHOLE body. I would suggest to try the AMIRA MAGIC CREAM, Magic LOTION and MAGIC SOAP ALL available.... and promise you wont regret in trying it... It may and may not work for you depending on the reaction of your skin but 99% safe and effective... contact me at +639175109254 or +639189409544... thanks!!!!


NOW ACCEPTING DEALER WORLDWIDE!!!


www.picturetrail.com/magiccream
www.girlpowercentral.com

***BEWARE of FAKE DISTRIBUTORS see first the face of your distributors before buying. I believe that it should work first to us before selling it to others and trust me... It works like a CHARM!!!

Brennan
Sep 24, 2005, 08:32 AM
:eek: THat you have on picturetrail looks like the fake one, you see, the lotion just came out a few days ago and it's sealed, yours is not and has a different logo on it. Pepole be careful with this GirlPower0129, she claims to be aware and beware of fakes and imitations and Unauthorized distributors, well that's all she is. Her products are all fake!
Shame on you to be selling it here in this Forum. SELLIGN IS NOT ALLOWED HERE!! :mad: :mad:



Like what I have posted on the other thread for your Skin problem especially on your FACE, UNDERARM and WHOLE body. I would suggest to try the AMIRA MAGIC CREAM, Magic LOTION and MAGIC SOAP ALL available.... and promise you wont regret in trying it... It may and may not work for you depending on the reaction of your skin but 99% safe and effective... contact me at +639175109254 or +639189409544... thanks!!!!


NOW ACCEPTING DEALER WORLDWIDE!!!


www.picturetrail.com/magiccream
www.girlpowercentral.com

***BEWARE of FAKE DISTRIBUTORS see first the face of your distributors before buying. I believe that it should work first to us before selling it to others and trust me... It works like a CHARM!!!

somy
Sep 24, 2005, 06:48 PM
Hi nikkicute,

After going through your reply to amisha , I am curious to know more about F&F products. Where do I find it? Do they have a website where I can get more details on the custom made whitening creams? How much do these creams cost?.

Looks like these custom made creams work well. I want to try one of these. Can you pleasse give me more information about these creams.

Thanks in advance.

PhdTarewha
Sep 25, 2005, 12:58 AM
Good day,
I'm new at this and will try not to step on anyone person mentality. :rolleyes:
You say you want something that shall continue to give you lighter skin there are such products but it does not just lighten your skin it will strip you of all of your natural pigmentations therefore you will never have to worry about getting dark again and never look beautiful again. People will look at you and say wow :eek: , that does not look natural... "JUST ASK MICHAEL" He will never look be beautiful again.
All the products that people are talking about have one common thread... HOW TO GET YOUR MONEY!! :D with false since of have whiter, lighter skin and BEAUTY is yours, your beauty is having a beautiful complexion in any shade. If your problem has nothing to do with some form of discolorations, blotchy, scarring from pimples, natural dark circles and acne then why are you trying to lighten your skin????
Again I mean no harm just wondering what is wrong with liking your skin tone as it is?

nikkicute
Oct 6, 2005, 12:58 PM
There is a Fair and Flawless thread on this forum for those who would like to chat about the product. :)

You can ask me any questions you'd like. I'll be glad to help anyone if I can since I am actually using the product.

I would not take the words from others who have not tried the cream themselves and have only listened to the negative comments of others who have also NEVER used the cream.

I'm still using my Facial Whitener and it's working really well for me.

I' d like to thank the good people on this thread (like Somy) who have not made this thread into a Fair and Flawless fight.

I WILL LEAVE this thread for others to fight.

I'm not telling others what to do, it's your skin and you should be careful what you put on it.

I'm here to help others.
Take advantage? NO.

I think we or at least most of us here are ADULTS, full grown men and women who can make decisions on their own.

So unlike others on this thread who have insulted your intelligence to think that the big bad Nikki can MAKE YOU buy Fair and Flawless is just ridiculoous and sad. :rolleyes:

Thanks everyone!! Stay positive!!

hindude
Oct 6, 2005, 03:04 PM
I have to agree with the other members that Nikki needs to be banned. Every post I read of hers is basically the same thing... trying to put down every other product and praise her own. I know she's been banned from all the other forums so this place is probbaly her last resort.

hindude
Oct 6, 2005, 03:12 PM
What is funny is that the testimonials she speaks of don't even exist on the xtremecream page. Unless they took them down which would mean that THEY copied whiterskin not the other way around. Also means that the owner of that xtremecream site is probably a member on this forum.

kkasey1982
Oct 6, 2005, 10:43 PM
I didn't want to say anything before, but one of the main reasons I left the Yahoo forums was because it was all Nikkis chatter about Fair&flawless. I have no tried it myself, but anytime someone would talk about another product, it would somehow steer back to fnf. One thing I have noticed is that since day one she has been trying to bring down whiterskin. I can tell you that at least one of those testimonials on their site is real because it is the testimonial I submitted to them. I posted my pics some time ago on Yahoo and then sent it to whiterskin for a free jar in exchange. Anyway, I don't know if F&f is all that it is cracked up to be, but whiterskin has been working great for me. If you don't like it, that's cool but really do you have to start false accusations? I figured Nikki was working for F&F. I guess her company can't handle the competition and so she feels to need to troll all the forums. Get a life! And YES I AM Positive sheesh

bella05
Oct 7, 2005, 05:55 AM
Kkassey,

You are so right. As soon as Nikki becomes one forum's member, she turns down every product to promote this nasty F@F.
AND NOBODY COMES FORWARD, because she has no life and is member in EVERY FORUM and always is around waiting that as soon as someone write a good review about one product, she counteract Immediately.
That's why we need to reunite to get rid of this VIRUS as soon as possible! :mad: :mad: :mad:

dachsonish
Oct 7, 2005, 11:55 AM
Wow... I don't know what to say.. I had no idea that there could be so much drama over a skin care line.

-D

sharon1
Oct 7, 2005, 03:51 PM
Wow... I dont know what to say.. I had no idea that there could be so much drama over a skin care line.

-D

LOL I was thinking the same thing. Damn people, you guys are crazy. Whiterskin is a decent product. It lightened my skin a few shades in just a month. Now Im just using it a few times a day to keep my color. I might try F&F again for my body... we'll see.

babyfat
Oct 8, 2005, 01:05 PM
I'm in love with my whiterskin cream! Can't wait to get the new one :D

nikkicute
Oct 9, 2005, 05:26 AM
Wow... I dont know what to say.. I had no idea that there could be so much drama over a skin care line.

-D

Me neither!
I had no idea people could get this way myself.
It's sad really and so petty.
After all it is a skin cream, but they rather attack me than help others.

I'd rather not focus on the lies and accusations made against me and Von Hoven Cosmetics.

None of which are true! They can say "Nikki works for Fair and Flawless" till the cows come home.

Still won't make it true!

Oh well... Back to the topic at hand.

So Dachsonish have you tried this Whiterskin cream yet?

nikkicute
Oct 9, 2005, 07:02 AM
From: "markusss2k1" <markusss2k1@... >
Date: Sat Oct 8, 2005 2:05 pm
Subject: JUST GOT MY NEW JAR OF WHITERSKIN markusss2k1
I JUST GOT A JAR OF THE NEW FORMULA. THIS STUFF SMELLLS SO DAMN GOOD.
I FEEL LIKE IM ON CRACK JUST SNIFFING IT. THEY GIVE IT TO ME IN A
GLASS JAR AND THE CREAM FEELS AND LOOKS SO MUCH NICER. IM Going to GIVE IT
A MONTH TO SEE HOW THIS ONE WORKS.

This is a post someone wrote on the Yahoo boards. LOL!
He is crazy about this new formla! :)

I hope this works out for him.

Has anybody else ordered the new and improved Whiterskin cream?

dachsonish
Oct 11, 2005, 10:44 PM
I just bought some to see what all the hype is about. I will wait to see the results.

-Dash

nikkicute
Oct 11, 2005, 10:53 PM
I just bought some to see what all the hype is about. I will wait to see the results.

-Dash

Yes, please post your results and how fast you lightened and how much. The Whiterskin cream is new and improved now.

It should work much better than the old version of which I hear was pretty good.

somy
Oct 12, 2005, 07:40 PM
Hi All,

I bought Whiterskin a week ago and I started applying it. The ingredients listed in their site does not say it has coconut oil and other oils also. It has not helped a little bit also. I have started getting acne on my face. Now I don't know what I should be doing with the remaining part of te product. I just cannot continue applying it. This poduct has seriously disappointed me. I had lots of hope with this product.

Terribly disappointed. :mad:

-Somy

nikkicute
Oct 12, 2005, 08:20 PM
Hi All,

I bought Whiterskin a week ago and i started applying it. The ingredients listed in thier site does not say it has coconut oil and other oils also. It has not helped a little bit also. I have started getting acne on my face. Now i dont know what i should be doing with the remaining part of te product. I just cannot continue applying it. This poduct has seriously disappointed me. I had lots of hope with this product.

terribly disappointed. :mad:

-Somy

Sorry it did not work out for you.

When you received the jar does it list coconut oil on it?
Are you allergic to coconut oil?

If it's breaking you out, you have to discontinue use of it. I don't think they have a money back garuntee. :(

I would not try any other products until your skin as cleared up.

hindude
Oct 12, 2005, 11:03 PM
Hi All,

I bought Whiterskin a week ago and i started applying it. The ingredients listed in thier site does not say it has coconut oil and other oils also. It has not helped a little bit also. I have started getting acne on my face. Now i dont know what i should be doing with the remaining part of te product. I just cannot continue applying it. This poduct has seriously disappointed me. I had lots of hope with this product.

terribly disappointed. :mad:

-Somy

Is that the new version you're using? The new one comes in a clear through glass jar. That's what I'm using now... its supposed to be a lot better. Its looks and smells completely different so maybe the new one doesn't have that oil you're allergic to. You should have them exchange it for the new formula

somy
Oct 13, 2005, 07:42 AM
Its new I guess. It's the same piece which they advertise on their website. It is light lemon yellow in colour and the ingredients is listed on the bottle. It has coconut oil and jojoba oil. My face is oil-prone. I had asked them whether this was a oil-based cream or not, but they replied saying its water-based. That's the reason I bought it. I am very disappointed. :mad: If anyone wants to know the ingredients listed on it I can type it over again.

Thanks,
Sowmya

somy
Oct 13, 2005, 07:49 AM
hindude,

What are the ingredients listed in your new whiterskin bottle.

Thanks,
Somy

hindude
Oct 14, 2005, 08:57 AM
hindude,

What are the ingredients listed in your new whiterskin bottle.

Thanks,
Somy

You know, I have no idea because I ripped off the label soon as I got it. I can't have my family know I'm using something called "whiter skin" now can I LOL. The new cream is like a completely different product. Its white instead of yellow and has a nice smell to it. I don't know if it has oil in it or not, but it's not oily when I touch it or put it on. It feels just like lotion on my skin. I think you should just email them a nasty email saying your skin broke out and that you want to exchange it for the new one.

hindude
Oct 29, 2005, 02:43 PM
So far my progress with the new formula is considerably better than the old one. The new one does cause more of a slight stinging if you apply a lot at once. Also one night I slapped on 3 finger fulls and in the morning my skin was peeling a little. It washed away after my exfoliation scrub and my whole was really light. But when I put my sunblock on, DAMN that stung like a *****. Maybe there is some alcohol in the sunblock.

RevAnne
Oct 31, 2005, 09:56 AM
Sorry it did not work out for you.

When you received the jar does it list coconut oil on it?
Are you allergic to coconut oil?

If it's breaking you out, you have to discontinue use of it. I don't think they have a money back garuntee. :(

I would not try any other products until your skin as cleared up.

Hi ladies, I've been following this thread for a while and am really interested in what you are doing to your skin. I'm also from the Caribbean, living in London and studying at Cambridge. I've met several women who lighten their skin and am curious whether the reasons they give are universal? Would any (or all) of you please telll me some of the reasons you lighten your skin? I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

nikkicute
Nov 1, 2005, 04:00 AM
Hi ladies, I've been following this thread for a while and am really interested in what you are doing to your skin. I'm also from the Caribbean, living in London and studying at Cambridge. I've met several women who lighten their skin and am curious whether the reasons they give are universal? Would any (or all) of you please telll me some of the reasons why you lighten your skin? I'm genuinely interested in your answer.

Have you ever asked caucasians why they tan? They tell you they want to look better, they enjoy the look of a light brownish skin tone. SO DO I!!

Instead I will have to lighten for that color and they will have to darken.
Go figure??

This for me is cosmetic. Like coloring ones hair, putting on makeup etc..
This is no different as far as I'm concerned. My complexion and skin tones are uneven.
I want my skin to be one color of all over from head to toe and a lighter color at that.

It's not about lighter skinned is better, lighter is more attrative. I've seen very unattrative light skinned individuals and absolutely gorgoeus dark skinned people.
I would not tell someone who is very dark to lighten their skin. They maybe happy with it.

Those are some of my reasons for wanting lighter skin. :D

RevAnne
Nov 1, 2005, 05:15 AM
Hi Nikkicute
Thanks for responding to me and I appreciate your honesty. One point I'd like to pick up on: Caucasions who tan simply buy a bottle of suntan lotion, or maybe spend a couple of minutes in a tanning booth. There may be some unfortunate accidents, but none on the scale of what I've seen in London. Many of the women I see who bleach their skin end up with really bad skin in the end, and are not at all attractive after all their efforts. Some of the products used are not safe and still many people continue to use them. Secondly, I think one of the ladies mentioned that once you stop using these products your skin reverts to its original colour and in most cases become even darker. So this then becomes like a sort of addiction, you HAVE to continue using these products if you want your skin to be lighter. Is it really worth it?

Pale White Skin
Nov 1, 2005, 08:48 AM
All I know is my skin would look so much better if it was lighter. A couple of shades from head to toe and I'd feel more confident in myself. I'd feel a whole lot better. For many it's an obsession.. but we all have an obsession about something different. You can't judge anyone because theirs might be a little "odd" since you don't see it too often. I just know for a fact that if I had a brighter complexion it, it would really make my face stand out. Everyone's told me that I'd look much better with white skin. I'd have to agree! All I've been using are soap brands though. No results at all but I'll continue to try. I want to buy a whitening lotion but I don't know which ones are effective and what brand to buy that would possibly be sold at an oriental market. Anyone know?

dimples
Nov 1, 2005, 09:04 AM
Hi ladies, I've been following this thread for a while and am really interested in what you are doing to your skin. I'm also from the Caribbean, living in London and studying at Cambridge. I've met several women who lighten their skin and am curious whether the reasons they give are universal? Would any (or all) of you please telll me some of the reasons why you lighten your skin? I'm genuinely interested in your answer.
A lot of people would think that we are extremists for doing this to our skin but I think, the grass is always greener on the other side. We who have been born colored would like to be in a lighter girl's shoes & vice versa. Did you ever wonder why people with straight hair have their tresses curled while those with curly ones have it straightened? Same goes for skin. Trying to improve on your looks is not a crime. With improved looks, I can be more confident in my daily dealings. I could look at people in the eye & be a better conversant. It is all about increased self esteem.

RevAnne
Nov 1, 2005, 10:39 AM
Hi there Dimples, I agree with you that 'the grass is always greener on the other side.' But if you knew the grass on the other side was dangerous to your health, would you still covet it? I notice no one has addressed the issue I raised about the dangerous aspects of these products. Also, WHY would any of you want your skin to be white? Why is that a yardstick for beauty? I'm black and I believe I stand out when I walk into a room, and NOT because I am black, but because I am who I am and the confidence and self-esteem I have in myself shine through - no matter my complexion.

dimples
Nov 1, 2005, 11:44 PM
Hi there Dimples, I agree with you that 'the grass is always greener on the other side.' But if you knew the grass on the other side was dangerous to your health, would you still covet it? I notice no one has addressed the issue I raised about the dangerous aspects of these products. Also, WHY would any of you want your skin to be white? why is that a yardstick for beauty? I'm black and I believe I stand out when I walk into a room, and NOT because I am black, but because I am who I am and the confidence and self-esteem I have in myself shine through - no matter my complexion.
I am not aiming to be white-white. Just a few shades lighter. Even, lighter skin. I do not aim very drastic changes like that of Michael Jackson. I do my research about products I use before I even try them so I do not think they are as dangerous as you imply.Maybe you like being black. That is fine with me. But different folks, different strokes.

RevAnne
Nov 2, 2005, 04:13 AM
I am not aiming to be white-white. Just a few shades lighter. Maybe you like being black. That is fine with me. But different folks, different strokes.

Yes, I like being black. It is who I am, it is how God made me. Maybe being black in a society that privileges white above other skin colours comes with a tremendous amount of disadvantages, and sometimes for a split second (if I am to be honest) we begin to doubt/question our own value and selfworth but then I turn my anger towards the SOCIETY and its twisted values that would cause some people to go to such length and expense to devalue their own identity. I think, Dimples, it is our our thinking we need to change, rather than how we look on the outside to feel truly accepted and loved for who we are. Please, please, don't think I'm having a go at you (or trying to preach at you), I'm also trying to work through this myself and question my own feelings about it.

nikkicute
Nov 2, 2005, 07:23 AM
Hi Nikkicute
Thanks for responding to me and I appreciate your honesty. One point I'd like to pick up on: Caucasions who tan simply buy a bottle of suntan lotion, or maybe spend a couple of minutes in a tanning booth. There may be some unfortunate accidents, but none on the scale of what I've seen in London. Many of the women I see who bleach their skin end up with really bad skin in the end, and are not at all attractive after all their efforts. Some of the products used are not safe and still many people continue to use them. Secondly, I think one of the ladies mentioned that once you stop using these products your skin reverts to its original colour and in most cases become even darker. So this then becomes like a sort of addiction, you HAVE to continue using these products if you want your skin to be lighter. Is it really worth it?

Hello RevAnne,

A tan wears off, does it not? And they will HAVE to continue using the tanning products if they want their skin stay darker right?

I still don't see a difference.

I too have heard and seen pictures of women who have used bleaching creams only to end up disfigured. As you mentioned these products are toxic and contain banned ingredients. Most of those cream are smuggled into other countries illegally. Some are made right in the UK (Bolton, Manchester, Egham and London)The black-market network begins in the UK, along with the major producers of legal hydroquinone based skin-lightening creams.

Long term use of hydroquinone has been known to have a rebound effect and your skin get darker instead of lighter. That is why it is for short term use only.

The product I plan on using is all natural and is safe for long term use. It's possible that you can go back to your original skin color but if one uses sunscreen everyday you can maintain your lighter complexion longer and won't have to use the lightening product as often. They have one customer who only buys one jar of their body lightening cream every 6 months to maintain her new complexion. That's not so bad.

Is it worth it? YES!! :D

dimples
Nov 2, 2005, 10:15 AM
Yes, I like being black. It is who I am, it is how God made me. Maybe being black in a society that privileges white above other skin colours comes with a tremendous amount of disadvantages, and sometimes for a split second (if I am to be honest) we begin to doubt/question our own value and selfworth but then I turn my anger towards the SOCIETY and its twisted values that would cause some people to go to such length and expense to devalue their own identity. I think, Dimples, it is our our thinking we need to change, rather than how we look on the outside to feel truly accepted and loved for who we are. Please, please, don't think I'm having a go at you (or trying to preach at you), I'm also trying to work through this myself and question my own feelings about it.
I have no problems about ethnicity since I am mixed. I have no prejudices about dark color. In fact, I think it is beautiful. When one is dark & look good, she is a TRUE beauty. But when one is beautiful & light color, some people say it might be because she is white or light skinned? No offense here but I heard some women say that a lot. As for me, I have stretch marks after all the dieting & everything & let us face the real facts. When you have darker skin, it tends to look more obvious but with lighter skin, it tends to blend with the skin until you come really close. Another point is scarring after wounds & pimples. I have noted it to hyperpigment more on darker skin. In summary, I do not have anything bad to say about dark skin except that I want to lighten up for purely cosmetic reasons. Hope you understand my point.

RevAnne
Nov 2, 2005, 12:29 PM
Nikkicute, you seem to be well informed about the products, so obviously you've done your home work. And it does seem to mean a lot to you to have lighter skin but I'm not sure how comparable it is with suntanning!! I think there are deeper social issues operating with the desire/compulsion of black people who want to bleach their skin.

On another point: don't you feel any concern that these products the UK has deemed dangerous can still find their way onto the shelves here? I'm sure not all women who buy these products are as informed as you.

Question- would your friends and family like you any more if you have lighter skin?

RevAnne
Nov 2, 2005, 12:34 PM
Hey Dimples, thanks for being honest with me.

Pale White Skin
Nov 2, 2005, 12:35 PM
In Hong Kong, China, it's looked upon as a status symbol to have milky white skin, sometimes in Japan too. Women buy skin whiteners to have their skin whiter, and go to lengths to have white skin. It's like the opposite of the USA.

In the USA, it's looked down upon for whatever reason, probably the influence of pop culture. A scrawny tanned boy is seen as innocent, where a scrawny pale boy is looked down upon heavily in the USA by some people.

It's funny how that works but it's true! Pale is in.. So whatever makes you happy! Now if only we knew what products are available over the counter that are effective. Hmm...

nikkicute
Nov 2, 2005, 02:59 PM
Nikkicute, you seem to be well informed about the products, so obviously you've done your home work. And it does seem to mean a lot to you to have lighter skin but I'm not sure how comparable it is with suntanning!!! I think there are deeper social issues operating with the desire/compulsion of black people who want to bleach their skin.

On another point: don't you feel any concern that these products the UK has deemed dangerous can still find their way onto the shelves here? I'm sure not all women who buy these products are as informed as you.

Question- would your friends and family like you any more if you have lighter skin?

Well I think it is comparable cause they both involve changing ones skin color for cosmetic reasons.
What else can you compare it too :confused:.

The social issues go way back to slavery.:rolleyes:
Seems like a lot of black issues go back to that.
Field slaves worked out in the fields and were dark skinned, house slaves worked indoors and were lighters skinned, they were taught to read and write. I think that is why till this day some black people think lighter skin is better than dark skin. They've got that house slave mentality.
You were a house slave you were able to work indoors and was probably treated better cause your dad was also the guy who owned you.

I'm not concerned about the products showing up at the stores here in the U.S. at least not the major department stores or even the discount stores(Wal-Mart,Target,K-mart).

But a little mom and pop store might carry them.
Around where I live (Wisconsin) if you want to purchase black haircare products (most stores have a limited selection of black haircare products) or hair for getting braids or extensions usually the store you go to the people who work and own the store are asians.
We have large populaton of Hmong people in Wisconsin.
They have plenty of bleaching products and I would not be surprised if some of the banned brands were in there some where. Yeah, maybe those type stores might have them sure.

I don't think my family would care. I mother uses bleaching creams. She definitely has the rebound effect caused she usrd hydroquinone products for years, still does, but I'm going to buy her a jar of natural lightening face cream. My cousin uses it too. I don't think my sister does, but since moving to Florida I think she is noticing something's. It's Florida you know? Sunny all the times, people wearing shorts and bathing suits, probably started to notice how even tone some people skins were. Now she wants to lighten her knees and be two shades lighter. I'm going to buy her a jar of the new gel and lotion for Christmas.

I'm more concerned about nosy co-workers saying something. I used a really good cream that is no longer being made and they sent a white co-worker to ask me if I was bleaching my skin!! How dare they!! She said they were talking about me in the employee lounge of how light my skin was lately. So? What is it any business of theirs?

Another guy (the darkest one there, he's from Africa) asked me what I was doing to my face?
I acted like I had no idea what he was talking about. Lol

Nosy!! :mad:

They will be talking even more when I lightening a couple shades!

RevAnne
Nov 7, 2005, 09:10 AM
To Phd Tarewha

Your response to these ladies and the language you use indicate that in spite of what you yourself look like on the outside, you are actually rather ugly on the inside. And in the end, that is all that matters. Our character is the one thing that will sustain us and the one thing that people remember. I think you need to work on that a little bit. You can get your point across (even in cyber space) without being nasty

I may not agree with the practice of skin lightening but I hope that I'm more polite than you are in my responses and my reaction to those who do. As far as I can remember, we are all equaly free to make our own decisions within the parameters the law allows.

RevAnne

dimples
Nov 8, 2005, 12:46 AM
There are really no words to explain a person that lives their lives base on rather their skin is light or dark. :rolleyes:
If you had any intelligence, talent you might be able to have a wonderful life in, career, personal affairs, and just really liking you because your success with your esteem stems from you being you and at your best.

I do believe that if you suffer from discolorations and just have some areas on your skin that does not blend, such as dark circles, scarring from pimples or something like dark spots on your legs,then I believe it may be appropriate to lighten those areas, but to change your skin tone because you think you are more accepted or liked you and all those that support this kind of behaviour deserves all the negatives that comes with it.
Your failures has to do with your lack of self esteem :D You should be ashamed that a person from the continent of Africa (does not mean you are Black-get it right!) asked you what are you doing to your skin:p as, a person whom is married to a man from/born in the continent of Africa and he is not Black African but is an Afrikhan... do you know the difference? I'm from England,not London... do you know the difference when one says I'm from England, not London and I am a person who has a lot of mixes going on but in the end "I AM A BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMAN". Michael pictures as a child until now are so very different how can family members explain his nonsense his natural children would have had Michael's original features and maybe skintone, even if the mum is white/black there are some things you can F****UP and guess what your DNA is not one of them.. :p
I WOULD WISH YOU PEACE NIKKIUGLY, BUT PEACE IS NOT YOURS ... you shall continue to have a UGLY spirit until you come to your senses, all those that embrace what you call grown up decisions will be forever doomed.
SO KEEP ON PLAYING STUPID...WHAT YOUR SILLY *** DOES NOT KNOW, IS NO ONE THINKS YOU ARE PLAYING STUPID :eek: YOU ARE REALLY STUPID, DUMMY! ;)
I think you must be really really ****ed up to say these things. First & foremost, what we do with our skin does not have anything to do with you. We earned what we spend so what is that to you? We do not owe you any explanation for everything. Secondly, we are not failures. Most people who think of beautifying their outward appearance are already okay on the inside so we are just improving on what we think we need to. Obviously, you still have a lot to do about your insides from the way you curse.I would imagine you look as bad as you sound. Get some manners, will you? If you do not like these forums that are very much into everything you condemn, I suggest you put your large foot where your mouth is & shut the **** up. We do not need your opinion here. Read on if you are amused but we do not like you here so do get out. Please. Thirdly, not all people in these forums have African heritage. Some are Asians, others Mediterraneans, etc so do put your anger elsewhere. There are a lot of reasons people want to look better & maybe you have way too much confidence to say that you do not need any improvement in your life. Wow! Hey, get a shrink than visit these sites. They would do you a lot of good. We do not need a SUPEREGO like you. Hmmm... if you are so great, why bother reading on. Tsk.. tsk... MAybe you are not so great after all. Have a nice day, !

kammiepooh
Aug 16, 2009, 01:09 PM
Well I think it is comparable cause they both involve changing ones skin color for cosmetic reasons.
What else can you compare it too :confused:.

The social issues go way back to slavery.:rolleyes:
Seems like a lot of black issues go back to that.
Field slaves worked out in the fields and were dark skinned, house slaves worked indoors and were lighters skinned, they were taught to read and write. I think that is why till this day some black people think lighter skin is better than dark skin. They've got that house slave mentality.
You were a house slave you were able to work indoors and was probably treated better cause your dad was also the guy who owned you.

I'm not concerned about the products showing up at the stores here in the U.S. , at least not the major department stores or even the discount stores(Wal-Mart,Target,K-mart).

But a little mom and pop store might carry them.
Around where I live (Wisconsin) if you want to purchase black haircare products (most stores have a limited selection of black haircare products) or hair for getting braids or extentions usually the store you go to the people who work and own the store are asians.
We have large populaton of Hmong people in Wisconsin.
They have plenty of bleaching products and I would not be surprised if some of the banned brands were in there some where. Yeah, maybe those type stores might have them sure.

I don't think my family would care. I mother uses bleaching creams. She definitely has the rebound effect caused she usrd hydroquinone products for years, still does, but I'm going to buy her a jar of natural lightening face cream. My cousin uses it too. I don't think my sister does, but since moving to Florida I think she is noticing somethings. It's Florida ya know? Sunny all the times, people wearing shorts and bathing suits, probably started to notice how even tone some people skins were. Now she wants to lighten her knees and be two shades lighter. I'm going to buy her a jar of the new gel and lotion for Christmas.

I'm more concerned about nosy co-workers saying something. I used a really good cream that is no longer being made and they sent a white co-worker to ask me if I was bleaching my skin!!! How dare they!!!!!! She said they were talking about me in the employee lounge of how light my skin was lately. So? What is it any business of theirs??

Another guy (the darkest one there, he's from Africa) asked me what I was doing to my face?
I acted like I had no idea what he was talking about. lol

Nosy!!!!!!!! :mad:

They will be talking even more when I lightening a couple shades!!



What compels people to want to change who you are ? I really don't understand it ! Will you be a better, more intellectual, more decent person after you lighten yourself ? Try reading more books or even looking at National Geographic or anything that will constructively inform about your individual heritage, weather it's Africa, Asia, India or what ever!! Take a little time to invest in yourself AND Educate yourselves!! FOR GOD'S SAKE!! There are so many problems in the world . So many poor, sick, homeless, desolate people who you could help with the money and time and effort you invest in this skin lightening issue ! It's totally ridiculous!! We all need God's help, His Grace and Mercy to help us learn our purpose on this planet and fulfill our destiny for the short time we are here. Come on! Smart -Up people! I really do think that we as blacks have done a disservice in educating and raising this generation and our youth of today. They are LOST!

Golden_Boy
Oct 11, 2009, 10:09 PM
Well not every cream will work for every person.

I'd say give it a try, buy the small jar. Unfortunatly they do not have a money back garantee so it's on you.

As far as the scam thing goes, I don't know and do not have all the facts but as far as me, I'm sticking to Fair and Flawless and staying away from Whiterskin until I learn more of who is behind the cream first.

I have heard about Fair And Flawless all over this forum. But I opened up this thread because they are talking about Whiterskin.

However, I can't find a product named Whiterskin, despites this topic about it being 'released'.

Was it discontinued or changed? :confused:

nikkicute
Oct 11, 2009, 10:40 PM
Why do you keep bringing up old threads?
Where are the mods?
They need to put a lock down on this!

Vicky_D
Oct 12, 2009, 12:09 PM
Why do you keep bringing up old threads?
Where are the mods?
They need to put a lock down on this!!

Hahahahaa