During the last year I kept stumbling upon information regarding 2012, more specifically the 21st of December 2012 (12/21/12) and have become very interested in what the ancient Mayans knew surrounding this upcoming event for Earth and the Uinverse and the Universal beings here awaiting this event.

Anyone here know about/learning about/interedted in/waiting for 2012? Just curious...

For the conspiracy nuts, it is the date that the government "time machine" made using results from the Philadlphia experiments can not get past and show clear results.

It is the date of a possible UFO invasion by the UFO beleivers in some circles ( related also to the believed dimensional travel done in the above experiment who related it to another dimension instead of time travel.

The Mayan calendar cycles and all cycles end on that date, thus showing that all things are completed.

I still have plenty of time to make my sign to go down down with
* repent the end is near** perhaps I can do a internet sign instead.

I remember reading about this a number of years ago. The Mayans (who correctly predicted the end of their own society) were superb mathematicians and astronomers. If memory serves me correctly you are quite right about the 2012 date given by Mayan calculation to mark the end of the world. However, as a keen scientist or at least someone with a scientific mind I am in doubt in two areas.

1. Mayan calendars differ a vast amount to our own date system of which we have had two over the last 1000 years (Georgian and Julian), calculations between these systems has many compounded variables so a date of 2012 could as easily be 2012+/- 10-100

2. Since archaeologists are merely 'interpreting' the Mayan data the meaning for 'end' may well not mean 'end' as we see it. Much in the same way that the death card in the tarot actually means change rather than death.

Simple really the Mayans forgot to buy the Extended version of their calandar and all you have to do is turn ot over and start again.

Obviously nobody told Uncle Bill, as my outlook calendar goes passed this date! At least if it's the end of the world I can save on Christmas presents that year. Hmm why save? Everyone can have a Porsche/Ferrari/Lambourghini... on the credit card!

Haha. I'm glad you can all make light of this.

Actually, as Wickedimp said, the ancient mayans were great mathematicians and astronomers. To this date their calendar is the only one that has never errored. If you read what is written in the many different places it is written about, this event is sometimes referred to as the 'rapture' by the christians (though no date is given for that), 'the end times' by metaphysicians/new agey types, and going even deeper down the rabbit hole there is all sorts of Universal theories (and yes, regarding 'alien' life).

I'm more interested in the spiritual outlook on the matter. I was hoping to get a response from some starseeds (if there are any on this forum).

Who knows what will ACTUALLY happen on 12-21-12. Maybe nothing at all. Or maybe something wonderful. Or maybe it will be the 'end' of the world as you know it. Though, I don't think it will be END of the world in a literal sense. But who knows. I was just interested in finding others who share common interests. Sorry if I busted anyone's bubble in posting this.

Pixie, bear in mind how many times we have lived through the "end of the world" already with no ill effect, making light is about the best response.

Hey If the Mayans are right then I'll be the first to admit I was wrong ;)

Well perhaps the world really ended at 2000 and we just don't realise it.

2012 is the year WalMart takes over the world to become our new form of Globalist dictatorship. That old guy at the door will implant a chip in your forehead and when you checkout, you bow down and swipe your noggin over the reader on the counter... directly in front of a statue of George W. Bush with Devil horns.

WHAT?

No, but seriously folks, 2012 is the year that the Watchers return to guide all of humanity to truth... well, their truth anyway. When that happens, Christ has no choice but to step in and destroy them.

I have been very interested in this predicton also and read up on it many years ago but unfortunately have forgotten most of it. From what I remember the mayans say there are five cycles and each one has ended in some sort of catastrophe. We are now in the 5th cycle, and the mayan calendar or fifth cycle is set to end on December 21st 2012. That day is also a winter solstice, and I believe that the planets are set to align that day as well. Nobody knows how the mayans knew this back then but I believe the mayans knew much more back then than we do now, but anywayz... Also, I heard somewhere that the mayan calendar was actually slightly more accurate than the calendar we use today.

Further research into known asteroid paths for the year 2012 charts earth's nearest encounter with one object coming as close as 0.27AU (25098089.7 miles) to give you a little comparison our own moon is 0.00256955214AU (238855 miles) distant.

In conclusion the 'threat', if any, is terrestrial or unknown extra-terrestrial in nature.

I bet the Mayans came through the Stargate that's how they knew so much...

Durring the last year I kept stumbling upon information regarding 2012, more specifically the 21st of December 2012 (12/21/12) and have become very interested in what the ancient Mayans knew surrounding this upcoming event for Earth and the Uinverse and the Universal beings here awaiting this event.

Anyone here know about/learning about/interedted in/waiting for 2012? Just curious...
PixieMama,

There are a lot of theories on this. The Mayans weren't the only ones who mentioned 2012, 'seers' from many societies gave that date as a big one. There are a lot of book out on the subject, like "The Disappearance of the Universe" and some specifically titled 2012, which you can find at Barnes & Noble. Everyone has their own ideas about what 2012 will entail, if anything, which is why I haven't really studied it. I've heard some people say that those who 'need' an apocalypse will have it.

My own gut feeling is that there will be a major consciousness shift, similar to the Harmonic Convergence of 1987. (Google that, and check out Harmonic Convergence: Information from Answers.com (http://www.answers.com/topic/harmonic-convergence) ). I'm hoping the world, as a whole, will become slightly more enlightened. If it doesn't, it doesn't, but there's always hope. I also think that if it happens, Indigos will play a big part in that!

I looked at my calendar and it ends 12/31/07 the end is near everyone panic!! :)

well perhaps the world really ended at 2000 and we just don't realise it.
I like the idea of quantum immortality - it's like the many worlds hypothesis in quantum mechanics. That every single decision or alternate event creates a different world in which that decision was made differently. If you die in a number of worlds due to a guy shooting you, there will be a subset of worlds in which you don't die. These worlds are the only worlds you continue to observe because they're the only worlds that you are conscious in.

Maybe many of the worlds ended in 2000 for whatever reason, and we are living in the small subset of worlds that didn't end. The main problem with the theory is that it's totally unprovable until you die... which in this interpretation will never happen.

As for the 2012 thing... Why would you make a calender more than 1000 years into the future? My calender ends on the 31st December 2007, that doesn't mean the world is going to end.
Are you actually proposing that they would have made an INFINITE CALENDER that covers every single day for the entirity of existence?

There's 2 reasons the calender ends on that day:

1. End of the world, so no point writing further dates
2. Kind of got bored writing down all the dates 1000 years in the future

I know which is more likely.

Stargate, aliens, end of the world, FTL travel... I like this site take your pick WELCOME TO EXIT MUNDI: A COLLECTION OF END-OF-WORLD SCENARIOS (http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm)

I prefer How to destroy the Earth @ Things Of Interest (http://qntm.org/destroy)

:)

Here is something that's kind of off topic but related to the subject

I don't want to offend anyone by mentioning this,

When you add 11 to 2001 you get 2012

2001 + 11 = 2012

I'm not going to explain what's significant about
The number 11 and the year 2001 out of respect

It might not be armageddon
But I have a really bad feeling that something really bad might happen on 2012

Not because of the mayan calender,
But because there were to many coincidences about september 11th
and 2012 would be the perfect coincidence

And there is a whole lot of people that want to see something really bad happen to the U.S.
Lets face it, the united states have pissed off a lot of countries

Anyway,
My opinion is that I may or may not happen

I think that it is people's decisions that make prophecies come true
Mabey the fate of the world will all come down to a decision

A war will go on forever until one side gives up or one side is totally annihilated

I really hope obama get's voted in...
It's like if you could go back to before george bush was ever voted in,
You totally would have voted for Al Gore I hope

Here is something that's kind of off topic but related to the subject

I don't want to offend anyone by mentioning this,

when you add 11 to 2001 you get 2012

2001 + 11 = 2012

I'm not going to explain what's significant about
the number 11 and the year 2001 out of respect

It might not be armageddon
but I have a really bad feeling that something really bad might happen on 2012

not because of the mayan calender,
but because there were to many coincidences about september 11th
and 2012 would be the perfect coincidence

and there is a whole lot of people that want to see something really bad happen to the U.S.
lets face it, the united states have pissed off a lot of countries

Anyways,
My opinion is that I may or may not happen

I think that it is people's decisions that make prophecies come true
Mabey the fate of the world will all come down to a decision

A war will go on forever until one side gives up or one side is totally annihilated

I really hope obama get's voted in...
it's like if you could go back to before george bush was ever voted in,
you totally would have voted for Al Gore I hope

The Julian Calendar is not based on anything astronomical - surely you should be using something like the lunar calendar for numerology?

Fight fight fight I don't know it looks like a bunch of dumb people trying to prove there fact they don't know

12/21/2012 is the date my driver's license expires (really!). As I recall there's a pretty good Wikipedia article about the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar. It's a base twenty number system with a certain number of digits that starts at 0000001 and ends at 999999. Kind of like the odometer in your car. The car doesn't explode just because the odometer rolls over to zero again.

....The car doesn't explode just because the odometer rolls over to zero again.
Correct. But there are very view vehicles that will be able to end a full roll of 999.999 Miles.
The car will have "exploded" long before :)

:rolleyes:

According to me, this is a stupid believe... Actually I would like to see the end of this world.. If there is going to be a doomsday I think many animals can feel it, as they are close to nature than us.. but as we can see there is no such sudden change in behavior of animals.. So I think its just another conspiracy..

According to me, this is a stupid believe... Actually i would like to see the end of this world.. If there is going to be a doomsday i think many animals can feel it, as they are close to nature than us.. but as we can see there is no such sudden change in behavior of animals.. So I think its just another conspiracy..

Tell that to the polar bears. ;)

Animals might only know if the end is natural and there response may be only a few hours or days ahead of time certainly not years

Some people think that it will be the biggest event since humans started speaking- although not nessacarly the end of the world. I was thinking someone should oraganise something strange like everyone all around the world should walk outside naked at the same time or something.

According to me, this is a stupid believe... Actually i would like to see the end of this world.. If there is going to be a doomsday i think many animals can feel it, as they are close to nature than us.. but as we can see there is no such sudden change in behavior of animals.. So I think its just another conspiracy..
Global warming?

1+2=23 2+3=23 20+(1+2)=23!! WOW just like that movie with Jim Carey!

I have been very interested in this predicton also and read up on it many years ago but unfortunately have forgotten most of it. From what I remember the mayans say there are five cycles and each one has ended in some sort of catastrophe. We are now in the 5th cycle, and the mayan calendar or fifth cycle is set to end on December 21st 2012. That day is also a winter solstice, and I believe that the planets are set to align that day as well. Nobody knows how the mayans knew this back then but I believe the mayans knew much more back then than we do now, but anywayz... Also, I heard somewhere that the mayan calendar was actually slightly more accurate than the calendar we use today.

If the Mayans could predict the day that all the planets align to the exact date with no teleccopes,, that in itself is amazing. I wonder if they really are going to align.

If the Mayans could predict the day that all the planets align to the exact date with no teleccopes,,, that in itself is amazing. I wonder if they really are going to align.

They're not. It is the winter solstice though, so perhaps that's what they meant. (Interestingly, the winter solstice occurs at 1111UT in 2012, for all you nuts who want to hang some significance on that number. Perhaps this is why the person before said this was when it was going to end, although they had no clue why).

Me and my mates were talking about that.. we said that it was 12/12/12 and one of my mates said '' we ether all die or that we will all be blessed to see the living and the dead'' that's his opinion, mine is, live life the way u want, if we die or whatever then, then sh*t happens ''whats for you will not go by you''

EDIT: http://www.msghelp.net/showthread.php?tid=74463

Me and my mates were talking about that.. we said that it was 12/12/12 and one of my mates said '' we ether all die or that we will all be blessed to see the living and the dead'' thats his opinion, mine is, live life the way u want, if we die or whatever then, then sh*t happens ''whats for you will not go by you''

EDIT: 7 reasons the world will end in 2012 (http://www.msghelp.net/showthread.php?tid=74463)

Ok Hacker, If you could explain that in 3 words or less, go 4 it. UMMMM, I don't know know...

Ok Hacker, If you could explain that in 3 words or less, go 4 it. UMMMM, I dunno know....

It's actually 12-21-12.

I livee in a country where mayans lived.. and believe me they said things that never happened..
Maybe 2012 is just a common year!

Ok Hacker, If you could explain that in 3 words or less, go 4 it. UMMMM, I dunno know....

Explain that in 3 words or less?

Read The site :cool: :p

have you thought about all this stuff is related to planet X? 2012 and Planet X Books and Free Videos (http://planetxforecast.com/)

Interesting indeed.

YouTube - PT7/10-NWO FU*@ED AND THEY KNOW THEY ARE - PART7-IAN R CRANE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt_Ot6Tki9U&feature=related)

I've read all of your responses and I can't help but to laugh a little bit. So many superstitious people or non believers. To each his own I suppose.

I am one of those superstitious weirdos. I pray when a black cat walks in front of me, I don't like seeing ladders leaning on buildings and I freak when someone spills salt, I also happen to believe very much in the Mayan calender. I respect their amazing culture, and I think they were a lot more knowledgeable then, then we are now, about future events. I'm really not sure I have even decide what to believe will happen on 12-21-12. There are so many prophecies and explanations, but I do not think it will be the end of the world. More like, the end of the world as we know it now, hopefully this means a better one will begin, because I don't see how it could possibly get any worse then it is now.

Anyway, check out this sit. My grandfather writes it all and he's kind of... eccentric.
2012 A.D. (http://www.halexandria.org/dward415.htm)

Laugh a "little" if you like. I'll tell you though, I don't think mankind is going to have a major leap in anything. I believe the entire planet will be taken over and controlled by the Fascist elitist that secretly control it now and have for many, many years. There are some of us that are speaking out about their strangle hold on the illusion of money and power. Speaking out because we have been fighting their wars and testing their latest greatest weapons of mass destruction on those less fortunate for many, many years.
For the most part though, the majority of people want to be ruled. They want to live under the false assumption that they are free when in fact, everything is really tightly controlled and always has been. Now, there are just too many unnessesary eaters and breeders to handle effectively. 2012 will be the year they take care of that problem.
This ain't going to be good. The New Age Woo Woo's tell you it will be all nice and warm and fuzzy but that is all part of the plan. Like a thief in the night.

In my opinion I do believe that it could be the end of all things. Change is among us all for example the change of presidency in the US. For the first time in history a man of color is in the seat of power. Many things are going to change and many consequences of this will follow. The consequences may not exactly be bad but this is a big change. Its something I will say no one saw coming or expect. Change is among us and perhaps this change may bring about the end of days as we know them. Time does have to end eventually. An energy source that forces time to pass must run out sooner or later nothing last forever. We can speak of god and religions but the proof is in the pudding. Unless it can be proved beyond a doubt I do believe the end itself may come. I myself am no genius or mathematical genius. But when it comes down to it most things are a prediction and only time itself can tell what is to come or not so we can all just wait and see for ourselves. We can experience the changes and evolve to them of the evolution can cease to exist and fault from reality but to my understanding everything must come to an end eventually...

It won't be the end.
Some say it will be a new beginning OR the beginning of the end but it is not the end. At least not 12/21/12.
Maybe possibly 12/21/21 but not 12/21/12

From what I looked at I found that nearly 5000 years ago the long count or third and last calendar of the Ancient Mayans ends on Dec 21 2012. There isn't much information as to what the Mayans thought would occur in 2012. During the Spanish Conquest many records where burned by a Spanish Priest claiming that the human sacrifices and ceremonies where the devils work. This collapsed civilization showed evidence of intelligence as the Greeks and Egyptians... somehow it was all lost but when a German Scholar cracked the code of some of the records remaining (calenders) back in the 1800's he found it had more information about the planets and astrological elements... structures and that the code followed our new modern day calender thus coming up with December 21, 2012. I don't believe that it is a religious end of the world Judgment Day (I am Catholic) but in my heart I just don't feel that it is a day the living and the dead rise together to be judged on that day... but the end will be near once the world has been divided with and between politics and religion wage to war. The war in heaven... the first war and the war of heaven and hell on earth... for an end to the old and a new beginning... a new earth. Humans destroy themselves... I think we are the most self destructive species on earth... look at what we do... we are worse then any animal thanks to our intelligence and ability to evolve scientifically and technologically. So back to the calender... I would like to consider that it would not be the end of the world and nothing is going to happen but if something did happen then I would consider it would be a day of great change maybe even catastrophic change for humanity and earth. There is evidence of planets colliding and stuff like that so here are some possibilities I found:

-Flu Pandemic
-Nuclear or Biological War
-Nanotechnology
-Nuclear Accident
-Genetic Modification (Technological Advances - Clones)
-Nearby Supernova
-Explosion from the black hole at the center of our galaxy - read about how something similar could have caused the recent tsunami
-Gamma Ray Burst
-Asteroid/Meteor/Comet
-Coronal Mass Ejection (CRE) from our Sun
-Cosmic Rays
-Solar System Falls Apart (butterfly effect)
-Magnetic Pole Shift
-Crustal Pole Shift
-Global Warming

Not sure but there will be the end of the world but rather a change... remember it is never the end of the world only the beginning to a new one :).

This is only an idea though.

From what I looked at I found that nearly 5000 years ago the long count or third and last calendar of the Ancient Mayans ends on Dec 21 2012. There isn't much information as to what the Mayans thought would occur in 2012. During the Spanish Conquest many records where burned by a Spanish Priest claiming that the human sacrifices and ceremonies where the devils work. This collapsed civilization showed evidence of intelligence as the Greeks and Egyptians...somehow it was all lost but when a German Scholar cracked the code of some of the records remaining (calenders) back in the 1800's he found it had more information about the planets and astrological elements...structures and that the code followed our new modern day calender thus coming up with December 21, 2012. I don't believe that it is a religious end of the world Judgment Day (I am Catholic) but in my heart I just don't feel that it is a day the living and the dead rise together to be judged on that day...but the end will be near once the world has been divided with and between politics and religion wage to war. The war in heaven...the first war and the war of heaven and hell on earth...for an end to the old and a new beginning...a new earth. Humans destroy themselves...I think we are the most self destructive species on earth...look at what we do...we are worse then any animal thanks to our intelligence and ability to evolve scientifically and technologically. So back to the calender...I would like to consider that it would not be the end of the world and nothing is going to happen but if something did happen then I would consider it would be a day of great change maybe even catastrophic change for humanity and earth. There is evidence of planets colliding and stuff like that so here are some possibilities I found:

-Flu Pandemic
-Nuclear or Biological War
-Nanotechnology
-Nuclear Accident
-Genetic Modification (Technological Advances - Clones)
-Nearby Supernova
-Explosion from the black hole at the center of our galaxy - read about how something similar could have caused the recent tsunami
-Gamma Ray Burst
-Asteroid/Meteor/Comet
-Coronal Mass Ejection (CRE) from our Sun
-Cosmic Rays
-Solar System Falls Apart (butterfly effect)
-Magnetic Pole Shift
-Crustal Pole Shift
-Global Warming

Not sure but there will be the end of the world but rather a change...remember it is never the end of the world only the beginning to a new one :).

This is only an idea though.

They believed that the previous world ended at the 13th baktun, not ours. In fact one of the kings wrote about the celebration of the 80th anniversary of his accession in 4337 - showing that he didn't believe that the world would end before then.

They believed that the previous world ended at the 13th baktun, not ours. In fact one of the kings wrote about the celebration of the 80th anniversary of his accession in 4337 - showing that he didn't believe that the world would end before then.

That may be true... I have no idea :). That does make me feel better though :).

If it's the end of the mayan calendar than it could just mean the end of time and not the end of our lives, maybe more a change of our world and ourselves. Maybe we will meet ourselves and we will have to reset ourselves (just like a computer has to once in a while) to delete all the useless files that's keeping us from running smoothly. To me time is a system to keep us enslaved.

Time seems to be invented by draconis (the serpent often referred to as the beast-the number 666) who also were the masters of mathmetics, they made time and a clock (the northern starclock).
Crichton E M Miller explains, it is quite simple after you recognise the constellations in the northern hemisphere, go to Polaris the current pole star in the tail of the Little Bear which is at 90º. Deduct half the tilt of the earth which is 23.4º from the 90º and you are left with 66.6º.
Draw an imaginary line from the centre of the earth into outer space bisecting the earths surface and you will find the ecliptic pole in the first coil of the constellation Draconis.

The ancients used a plumb line along with the cross which is really the Philosophers stone much sought after by Grail Hunters who think that to find the stone one must go to the centre of the earth and back again.
The Serpent is always above latitude 66.6º North and this is why the Vikings in Norway which is centred on 66.6º have the Serpent as their symbol and the early pre Viking Christian Churches at that latitude are decorated completely with Serpent signs. Harald Boehlke. Det Norske Pentagram. 1996 These are those early Christians that once knew the system and were evicted from Ireland by St Patrick, Ireland's Roman Catholic Patron Saint.

THe lost mayan civilization seem to have vibrated their cells in such a way that they became invisible.

If its the end of the mayan calendar than it could just mean the end of time and not the end of our lives, maybe more a change of our world and ourselves. Maybe we will meet ourselves and we will have to reset ourselves (just like a computer has to once in a while) to delete all the useless files thats keeping us from running smoothly. To me time is a system to keep us enslaved.

Time seems to be invented by draconis (the serpent often referred to as the beast-the number 666) who also were the masters of mathmetics, they made time and a clock (the northern starclock).
Crichton E M Miller explains, it is quite simple after you recognise the constellations in the northern hemisphere, go to Polaris the current pole star in the tail of the Little Bear which is at 90º. Deduct half the tilt of the earth which is 23.4º from the 90º and you are left with 66.6º.
Draw an imaginary line from the centre of the earth into outer space bisecting the earths surface and you will find the ecliptic pole in the first coil of the constellation Draconis.

The ancients used a plumb line along with the cross which is really the Philosophers stone much sought after by Grail Hunters who think that to find the stone one must go to the centre of the earth and back again.
The Serpent is always above latitude 66.6º North and this is why the Vikings in Norway which is centred on 66.6º have the Serpent as their symbol and the early pre Viking Christian Churches at that latitude are decorated completely with Serpent signs. Harald Boehlke. Det Norske Pentagram. 1996 These are those early Christians that once knew the system and were evicted from Ireland by St Patrick, Ireland's Roman Catholic Patron Saint.

THe lost mayan civilization seem to have vibrated their cells in such a way that they became invisible.

You should check this with an almanac, it might be exactly 66.6 on dec 21 2012!! Let me know your conclusions.

They mayans are probably laughing now saying "we just put some random date so we wouldnt have to worry about it!".I mean come on everyone thought we were going to die on 2000 and then again on 2001.

On dec 21 2012 at around 6 pm our solar system will cross the equater of the galixie. What this means I have no idea. But some believe that this will cause the magnetic poles will shift. And that may efect how it protects the earth from the sun. but the truth is nobody really knows. It only happens on average every 250000 years. Some scientists think it has already began to shift.

The entire planet above the equator will become dark as night. Then I can finally get some real sleep.

2012 is not going to be the demise of the world! In fact, it is a bogus theory which is continuously supported by the uneducated. It is simly the year that the Mayans' cellestial calendar restarts. All of the stars will be in the same position as they were in the time of the start of the calendar. At the end of December, is the world going to end because we have reached the end of our calendar... apparently not. Everything travels in cycles and all cycles end where they start and start where they end basic trigonometry. Can you tell me where a circle ends? It doesn't because it is an eternal cycle just like everything else in this world from seasons to PMS to tides. I am sorry to break it to you but 2012 is not going to be a catastrophic doomsday.

You mean... we're not going to die?

NO Magprob I believe you will live another good 50 yrs :D
I believe the 2012 date will have some major significant event but not the end of the world. Maybe the beginning of the end times but not the end.

2012 is not going to be the demise of the world! In fact, it is a bogus theory which is continuously supported by the uneducated. .

It has been *predicted* by many more than the mayan's
Nostradomus, the Aztecs and many others

Tonight at 9 pm eastern time the History channel is having a special on all that predicted the 2012 date and what it is suppose to be. Again NOT the end of the world... sorry Magprob!

[QUOTE=N0help4u;1463411]It has been *predicted* by many more than the mayan's
Nostradomus, the Aztecs and many others QUOTE]

Nostradomus "predicted" everything he could possibly think of and then they pieced together his many "predictions" into some sort of grand idea. If you predict every possible thing that could happen, something is bound to happen. Also, the mayan's did not predict the end of anything, they merely ended their calandar as we end most of our calendars with December. It will mean that the stars will be the same as they were when the calendar started. Also, the a lot of the ancient cultures went off celestial stuff and in hisory the Mayans and Aztecs are close. Further more if anything exciting, other than the stars aligning with the beginning of the few-thousand-year calander(if you call that exciting), happens (out of human hands of course because people could be planning stuff because we all know how great the human race can be) I will publicly admit I was wrong. I am pretty sure nothing cosmicly catyclysmic will happen though.

Most of what he predicted for 2012 was also predicted by many others and the pyramids and lined up with the stars and galaxy.

Also many today are predicting much of what he said as well.
Sure if you predict everything some of it may happen but if it happens in the order or time frame you predicted then it makes you more credible.

YouTube - manna fest astronomy (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manna+fest+astronomy+&search_type=&aq=f)

YouTube - manna fest end times (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manna+fest+end+times&search_type=&aq=f)

People pieced together his "predictions" so they might seem right but are not necessarily what he said. The pyramids with the galaxy once again cellestial charts in ancient times. Many people today are bogus and crazy. The people of today are also the ones that predicted something crazy would happen when the new mellenium came, nothing happened at all.

I never fell for the millennium thing. I don't even believe the global warming scare.
I do believe a lot of what the Nostradamus documentaries say are pieced together but interesting none the less.
With all the other predictions from the Bible and everything else I do believe that 2012 is going to be the beginning of the end times but not the end as the predictions are saying.
I believe it will be something like a meteor shower, a highly unusual eclipse or something with the earth axle
Shifting severely, for starters.