True or false?

Not always true, but I can see where people get that impression.

I would say all depends on the situation. There is no just true or false answer.

Joe

Ok just a wee example.

Boy makes a silly stupid but ultimately harmless mistake, tries to say sorry and gets dumped.

Boy treats his girl like crap, maybe even beats her, but says he loves her and that it won't happen again, girl forgives and stays with him.

I would say with that example and that situation. Yes, nice guy finishes last.

Its not that girls like @ssholes... it's that girls like CONFIDENCE and the majority of the time, arrogant @ssholes exude confidence while your typical "nice guy" does not.

So one could say that yes, "nice guys" finish last. However, that doesn't mean that nice guys finish last.

(didja get that?)

Very true.

But I hate it when girls go on and on about how they can't find someone to treat them right or they are sick of always being hurt.

Sometimes you just want to say "darlin maybe prison isnt the best place to go looking for a date" lol

Girls say a lot of things lol ;) the problem is that most of the guys that will treat her right are "wusses". I don't mean that in too much of a derogatory term, its just means that they roll-over. It's the "Lemme buy you a drink", "I called you 17 times today... where were you?", "follow you around everywhere you go", puppy-dog kind of guys.

Its all about the Laws of Attraction. If you are interested, there is a lot of recommending reading on this subject that will help anyone in this area of life. No, its not manipulation or deceiving... its simply a way of being a better you.


But yeah, I was a "nice guy" and it sucked. Always stuck in the friend zone. But that soon changed ;)

Yea man, before I met my ex it seemed that every girl I wanted I was stuck in the friend zone with, now that sucked worse than paris hilton making a comeback vid

LOL agrred to that!! :D

Here's a good post that a cool cat named Wildcat posted. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/great-article-some-stuff-we-discussing-here-attraction-45424.html check that out, and some of his other posts/suggested reading. Hes got this stuff nailed

True or false?

Unfortunately, it's true.

But it doesn't mean that nice guys should become bad. :p

I think we girls like nice guys better, but somehow we're more attracted to the other 'types'... :rolleyes: Again, unfortunately!

False.

False.

Nice guys aren't even in the race to begin with.

Well if you have a girlfriend... You should be nice to her. I mean girls don't want an abusive guy or anything. I think it's all tug-a-war... Even while dating, don't say yes to everything. Let there be some waiting but not to the point of frustration. Also, let there be room to breath. I learned this much from my last experience. Being too nice, they know they can do anything. Being mean will make them leave... I believe it's more of a balance you need to have... But this is only 25% of the game. How good are you in bed? How interesting are you... All these books of relationships and stuff are useless really. Who you are is who you are and somebody will love you just for that someday, forever! Someday, we will all finish last!

Yea very true, I think it sucks that you have to pretend not to really like someone in order for them to stay interested, seems pretty messed up.

It's not messed up, it's silly game playing. You're better off with a girl that doesn't do this.

Its not nice guys finish last. Its about having your own life away from your 'partner!'

The three C'S!

1) Challenge
2) Confidence
3) Charm

Girls DO want nice guys. What they don't want, however, is a nice guy who lacks certain aspects found mostly, but not exclusively, in the jerks you're talking about. They crave these things. You have to have what I call the Three C's - ever so trite, isn't it? The three C's are:

Charm - The ability to hold a conversation, be humorous, and dish out compliments with creativity and style. Believe it or not, "You have such shapely collarbones" is a far better compliment than "You're beautiful", just because it's something you rarely hear.

Challenge - That perfect mixture of flirtatiousness and elusiveness that leaves girls wondering, "Does he like me?". They LOVE that feeling of not having total control.

Confidence - The ability to take risks and handle the inevitable pain and rejection that is so much a part of dealing with the opposite sex with dignity and poise. After all, you know you're the biggest catch this side of Albuquerque! It's her loss, not yours. NOTHING is a bigger turn-off than desperation.

Charm is what most nice guys have, and most jerks don't. But jerks do have more confidence and challenge than those who complain of Nice Guy Syndrome. They've got you outnumbered two to one. Self-proclaimed Nice Guys need to get the rest of the package. You need to show girls that you can be sexy, fun, and full of attitude without sacrificing the heart of gold you know makes you a better man than all the insensitive jerks out there.

Get the three C's and you'll never be at a loss for excitement and fulfillment in your love life.

Hmm strange question hehe I've got two C s

Challenge

Charm

But you see I have girls after me a lot more then jerks but I also am such a unique person that probably everyone knows me I mean I am being flirted a lot with girls although I don't got the slightest bit of confidence to tell the girl I like that I like her.


If you want to know what my uniqueness is in I can tell


But believe me the girls are also going harsh 3 have asked for sex I'm 12 years old(class jump... It's hard being the youngest and most unique person(for not just that reason)in school)

False... In my own experience I was the so called " Popular girl" in high school I cheerleaded and I was all about partying lol... My boyfriend now was the band geek, played video games but was a sweet heart always told me when my boyfriends were jerks I just realized that this guy would do anything to make me happy and we have been together ever since but I could see why you say nice guys finish last, some girls just want bad boys.. lol

I ditto Jisers response, that was a good answer.

Women like a nice guy with the three c's.

1.) Charm

2.) Confidence

3.) Challenge

Sorry to repeat that Jiser but I could not rate you on it.

Nice guys can often lack the second which can let them down. Usually the most confident are the **sholes who end up treating a woman badly, although not always.

It's a bit like in the animal world. The strongest who wins a fight ends up winning their mate.

In the human world, it works on a different level, it is either the more confident or he who is financially successful. Again, this is not always the case and with equality between men and women becoming more evident in today's society and women becoming more dominant in the workplace, this can be said to be true for women winning over their man.. LOL

That's drifting from the point but I thought it would be food for thought. I don't think it is that nice guys necessarily finish last. It is a question of balance and if you lose balance and become a walking doormat, puppy dog that has low self esteem, the yes, you will finish last or even not at all.

You don't need to change who you are for someone else. If you are good and a genuinely nice person then why change that?

What you (not referring to you personally) need to do is focus on how to build your confidence so that you can be attractive and still be who you are, THE NICE GUY.

False... In my own experience i was the so called " Popular girl" in highschool I cheerleaded and i was all about partying lol... My boyfriend now was the band geek, played video games but was a sweet heart always told me when my boyfriends were jerks i just realized that this guy would do anything to make me happy and we have been together ever since but i could see why you say nice guys finish last, some girls just want bad boys.. lol

See and not all women want the same thing.

It is also a question of choosing the right woman.

Value yourself and say to yourself, 'I don't want second best. If she does not want someone like me, she is not worthy of me and she can have second best'.

It is an inner arrogance that I accept as being healthy as long as you keep it within.

True or false?

By the way, I like the way you don't beat around the bush with around a page and a half of writing and just get to it.

You certainly don't bang on like me.

I would go with false !

There is someone out there for everyone you just have to find the right one to settle down with. Some women like bad boys and some like good boys, just the same way as some dude's like blonds and some like brunettes!

I also wanted to add that I think that mainly it is the younger women who go for the bad boy jerks that are referred to earlier in this thread. I think at some point as they mature, things change. The bad boy type no longer seems as appealing or perhaps they may be appealing to the woman but the woman changes her focus on what she wants to what she needs. Not always but quite a lot.

I also wanted to add that I think that mainly it is the younger women who go for the bad boy jerks that are referred to earlier in this thread. I think at some point as they mature, things change. The bad boy type no longer seems as appealing or perhaps they may be appealing to the woman but the woman changes her focus on what she wants to what she needs. Not always but quite a lot.

I would agree 100% :)

The younger girls seem to find the bad boys a kind of turn on, until it reaches a point in life when bills and rents need to be paid and start thinking of having kids and settling down etc, then from what I have seen in life the bad boys become the losers !

To be honest who cares? If you can't be yourself in a relationship without mutual respect and both partners putting equal in, well then time to go! Fck bad boys and good guys. Be yourself if the women / bloke don't like it well then bye.

Of course totally contradicting myself. This doesn't allways work! Sometimes you just have to have that mystery and challenge.. as said in my previous posts. Up to you which stance you take.

O yeah Chuff thanks for the comment about my collar bones. One was broken in Judo by a British team member + I have overdeveloped side delts rather than my upper pecs which I so badly need to work on :( But can't much because my rotator cuff.

A HUGE resounding NO!! Well, at least not for me. From what I've seen though, I think it might be true for a fling, but when it comes down to it, if its for the long run... the nice guys win.

For the long run, nice guys definitely win!! No doubt!

Nice guys definitely win...

In the end the bad guys well you know what tey end up with the bad women...

That's right a lot of people say the bad boys get all the girls and this can be true, but it depends what you mean by bad boys.

The best way to be and there is no doubt about this, it is best to be a nice guy who has his own life. All you need is a life of your own which is full and squeeze your girlfriend in whae you ca. Make her a part of your life like every other part of it and your nice guy attitude will win her over.

People say bad guys get all the girls because what normally happens is the bad guy is a bit of a creep and therefore doent want to see her all the time and would rather hang with mates and so fourth meaning the girl chases him more, but because he yells and rants a lot girls adventually get sick of the treatment and fine a gut who hads a life and treats them well...

True in the beginning (ages oh 16-25 give or take)... Then False after that because the bad boy streak is out of the ladies that was in them in the beginning... Nice guys do win in the end.

[QUOTE=zooropa1985]Ok just a wee example.

Boy makes a silly stupid but ultimately harmless mistake, tries to say sorry and gets dumped.


She didn't really want to be with him anyway. The mistake he made was just an excuse for her to dump him.

Ok just a wee example.


Boy treats his girl like crap, maybe even beats her, but says he loves her and that it wont happen again, girl forgives and stays with him.


She has emotional problems and feels that she doesn't deserve to be treated good.

If you can't be yourself in a relationship why bother being in that relationship?

The problem is with some people of either sex if they become to clingy, dependent, needy then the relationship is over in allot of cases. Some people are confused with this being a nice guy.

A nice guy is someone who has his own life away from his GF. Who is there for her when she needs him but doesn't let her life evolve around his. If it does this is unhealthy!

Be happy in yourself first. Work on your issues. If your so insecure, then sort it out!

I think I have fallen into the trap of being a 'nice guy' - and it hasn't done me any favours!

I tend not to realise until after a breakup that I have done it. It's not intentional, but I am a naturally caring person. This ultimately turns me into Mr Nice Guy, who texts all the time, and worries about her all the time. After the break up, I realise - but it's too late!

One day I will learn my lesson! One fine day! LOL

Nice guys are really cool, but I don't know why they're so hard to find.

I mean, I wish I could be interested in a guy who turns out to be Mr Nice Guy, but this never happens. :rolleyes: Or maybe is it just me?

LOL I would never break up with a nice guy who's really nice, but as I said, they're hard to find... It's true though.

Nice guys are really cool, but I don't know why they're so hard to find.

I mean, I wish I could be interested in a guy who turns out to be Mr Nice Guy, but this never happens. :rolleyes: Or maybe is it just me?

LOL I would never break up with a nice guy who's really nice, but as I said, they're hard to find... It's true though.

Shame you live so far away :)

Shame you live so far away :)

Haha
Thanks...

I'll come there if things don't get "better" up here :p

I know eh, kind of sad really.

I think I have fallen into the trap of being a 'nice guy' - and it hasn't done me any favours!

I tend not to realise until after a breakup that I have done it. It's not intentional, but I am a naturally caring person. This ultimately turns me into Mr Nice Guy, who texts all the time, and worries about her all the time. After the break up, I realise - but it's too late!

One day I will learn my lesson! One fine day! LOL


I used to think I was trapped by my own 'nice guy' personality but came to realise that it was a good thing. I have also learned the difference between good and nice and the importance of balance. Being yourself is the best thing to be as long as it is good. Why change something that is good? If people can't accept what is good, then what does that make them? At best, someone who is a poor judge of character or trapped by making poor choices.

Being a nice guy does not mean being a doormat either, although I admit that I had fallen victim to this in the past. Learning more about yourself and other people helps you grow and learn that you just won't accept that. You deserve better and being a nice guy won't hold you back.

Why not consider yourself a rare prize that is waiting to go to the right winner?

The truth is, this probably is the case (if you really do hold the characteristics you think you do). That comes with a sense of arrogance which must be balanced by realising also that no one is perfect including oneself and with this in mind, it is also important not to pre-judge others and to accept faults in others and appreciate them for who they are too.

When I mentioned that more than half of what molds a man into what he is, is determined by what a woman wants people laughed at me. Because of the fact that women are so into the bad guy we have a increase number of "bad Guys". No knock on women, but if they simply refuse to accept these bad guys then the nice guys could possibly finish first, and women will no longer need to say, where are all the good men.

That depends on whether you've confused "nice guy" with "doormat." Nice guys never finish last but doormats always do.

False.

Nice guys aren't even in the race to begin with.

That's not true. Can't you be any better and be more positive?

I think that nice guys are the head of the race! Unfortunately there are girls that like bad guys. But not all, seriously, not all of the girl like @s. U might be looking at the wrong place.

Its not that we like jerks, it is just shocking to us when the man we are with starts acting like a jerk. The reason why we become clingy to them is because we are trying to figure out how a person that treated you so good for a long time can suddenly become a jerk. I love nice, sweet guys that do not have an ego the size of mount everest.

when I mentioned that more than half of what molds a man into what he is, is determined by what a woman wants people laughed at me. Because of the fact that women are so into the bad guy we have a increase number of "bad Guys". No knock on women, but if they simply refuse to accept these bad guys then the nice guys could possibly finish first, and women will no longer need to say, where are all the good men.

I think that some of this response has some interesting truth to it. I think a lot of the 'bad boy' Jerk types are so high in number because of the way some women are attracted to them for their personality traits. I think that sometimes people try to be something they are not, so they self mould (if you like) their own pattern of behavior to satisfy what they think is attractive to the opposite sex. I think it boils down to immaturity and I don't believe for one second that women want a bad guy but I do believe that the characteristics of a bad guy or wild guy or jerk can be attractive to the younger women (NOT ALL). These types often display self confidence and the arrogance that can sometimes come with it (even if false). These men are no stronger than anyone else but may have learned to display themselves differently to the opposite sex to increase their chances of success. I think a lot of it is done without the individual really knowing, kind of subconsciously and is not (for the most part) premeditated. There is a lot of pressure for younger men to display masculinity in today's society and especially among their peers for fear of being seen as less of a man. This is where being who you are, being yourself is the best thing to be and where you will really meet your match. This does bring us back to maturity and both men and women do a lot of emotional growing in their 20's (for example).

I also believe that there are women out their who genuinely want a nice guy but have met so many t**ts that they find it hard to trust anyone or even believe that there is a genuinely nice man out there for her.

I would like to emphasise the words genuinely nice man as I believe also that there are men out there who pose themselves as nice guys and turn out to be bad eggs. Seen plenty of women fall for that trick.

There are players and there are good people and this goes for men and women, just as there are jerk types in us men, there are jerk type women too.

Unfortunately, it's true.

But it doesn't mean that nice guys should become bad. :p

I think we girls like nice guys better, but somehow we're more attracted to the other 'types'... :rolleyes: Again, unfortunately!

nicespringgirl disagrees

nicespringgirl, agree or disagree, it's still my opinion!
Thanks!

True, us nice sweet, loyal lot haven't a hope against a bloke who slags off his girlfriend, and talks openly about how he had her last night with his mates, what luckly lady wouldn't have'um hay (roll eyes) lol

I think I have fallen into the trap of being a 'nice guy' - and it hasn't done me any favours!

I tend not to realise until after a breakup that I have done it. It's not intentional, but I am a naturally caring person. This ultimately turns me into Mr Nice Guy, who texts all the time, and worries about her all the time. After the break up, I realise - but it's too late!

One day I will learn my lesson! One fine day! LOL

Certainly, nobody is suggesting that you be something you're not or that you stop being yourself. However, are you really a "naturally caring person" as you bill yourself or is that a cover-up for insecurity and a constant neediness? To find out, just compare how you treat your love interest with how you treat the other people in your life (family, male friends, etc.) Do you text them all the time and worry about them all the time? If so, then fine, that's just your nature, although you may then need to make some changes in that regard so that people don't regard you as an overbearing pest. On the other hand, if the constant worrying and texting only occurs between you and your current love interest, then that's a sign of neediness and insecurity and that's always a big turn-off. You're going to have to change these habits if you ever want to have a successful relationship with anybody.

I think to sum up what I believe to be true. As women grow older and mature emotionally and have been through there exploration years i.e. <25 then the Nice, caring, genuine guy becomes more appealing, not always but a lot of the time.

Nice guys finish last is a statement used by someone who has been rejected or felt rejected and has grown to resent rather than embrace the qualities that they hold. Look in the mirror, would you really want to change anything? By the way, I'm not referring to the poster of the question specifically, this is just a general question in which we should ask ourselves (whoever we are LOL).

I think to sum up what I believe to be true. As women grow older and mature emotionally and have been through there exploration years i.e. <25 then the Nice, caring, genuine guy becomes more appealing, not always but a lot of the time.

Nice guys finish last is a statement used by someone who has been rejected or felt rejected and has grown to resent rather than embrace the qualities that they hold. Look in the mirror, would you really want to change anything? By the way, i'm not referring to the poster of the question specifically, this is just a general question in which we should ask ourselves (whoever we are LOL).

Great thought! I like what you have said to this post, but your username kind of bothers me, sorry, no offense, but what does it mean and it's so long... does anyone think the same as I do??
Thank you, hun.

Depends e-n-t-i-r-e-l-y on the ethics level of who's doing the judging.

Being straight up in business with all my customers has served me very well. I can look back at three or four times I got screwed by unethical types. But that's out of hundreds of deals and projects.

As to females: Let those who prefer the rowdy promise-breakers have 'em! They'll pop out a kid or two (or get a couple of abortions) and end up at 45 wishing they had chosen the decent, considerate guy who comes home nights, didn't spend the paycheck on a new Chevy Dualie, or blow it in a high-stakes poker game at the lawyers club. (Rotten guys don't have to be low-IQ Neanderthals. They can come from "the best families." )

And as for us decent guys... there's nothing that says we can't stay fit and learn some brutal self-defense... just in case a trouble-maker starts something the decent guy can't talk his way out of. (Hap-ki-do is good because it incorporates submissions as well as kicks and punches.)

Sorry to tlak so long. Great question!

Great thought! I like what you have said to this post, but your username kinda bothers me, sorry, no offense, but what does it mean and it's so long...does anyone think the same as I do???
Thank you, hun.

Why does it bother you? It's just a username.. LOL

My name is Geoff and for some reason, I was given by friends and family a joke username and it stuck with me for years as Geoffersonairplane. Its nothing to do with the 60's band. It's not really supposed to mean anything.

Perhaps it means Geoff>>erson>>is on an airplane and wants to fly far away to the sunny mountains in the south of Spain.

Or it might just mean $**% all. LOL

I've seen a lot worse on here I can tell you.. LOL

By the way, I did not take offence.

Why does it bother you? It's just a username..LOL

My name is Geoff and for some reason, I was given by friends and family a joke username and it stuck with me for years as Geoffersonairplane. Its nothing to do with the 60's band. It's not really supposed to mean anything.

Perhaps it means Geoff>>erson>>is on an airplane and wants to fly far away to the sunny mountains in the south of Spain.

Or it might just mean $**% all. LOL

I've seen a lot worse on here I can tell you..LOL

It's that type of name that I can't remember but I can "rememeber"! U got it?
Well, then what's the sleeping tiger about?! :confused:

it's that type of name that i can't remember but I can "rememeber"!! u got it??
Well, then what's the sleeping tiger about? !!:confused:

I like Tigers. I think they are beautiful creatures.

Why are you analysing everything about a username and an image of a tiger sleeping. I can tell you that this Tiger is not an image of me (at least not the last time I looked in the mirror)

Sometimes things have no meaning but are simply an expression.

:confused: :confused:

:confused: :confused:

Just tease you sweetie;) because you sounds d*mn smart! I like to talk to you, how is that? :p

Just tease you sweetie;) coz u sounds d*mn smart!! I like to talk to you, how is that??:p

Well, that's very nice of you and I am very touched by the comment. ;)

Must be love ;)

must be love ;)

:D maybe, maybe not

She was missing huno earlier... :D

I don't do blind dates. LOL

We're just kidding.

Who does blind dates anyway?

We're just kidding.

Who does blind dates anyway?

I know... LOL

Cilla Black used to host a show called Blind date here in the U.K. and would get 3 contestants to compete against each other for their blind date by coming out with corny one liners in response to the blind date's question.

It was quite funny to watch.

nice guys finish last.True or false?

False, as its the ones who miss the fun who finish last.
In the end
the nice guy wins.

:D maybe, maybe not

She was missing huno earlier... :D

Ey, ey,ey... are you my friend or not?? :confused: :p

Well, thats very nice of you and I am very touched by the comment. ;)

Aw... sweetie, my pleasure. I do enjoy your comments, very in depth and thoughtful. Hugs:o

ey, ey,ey...are you my friend or not ???:confused: :p

I didn't know it was a secret hun... :)

I didn't know it was a secret hun... :)

Now u know... -_-#:mad: :D

Dam no one misses me :(

Lol

dam no one misses me :(

lol

Hey~ sweetie, I do,I miss you, hun!;) but don't you tell this to GEOFFER.. plane(whatever his name is)! :mad:

Ahh thanks, you made my night

;)

Hey~ sweetie, I do,I miss you, hun!;) but don't you tell this to GEOFFER..plane(whatever his name is)!!:mad:

Now you miss everyone (except me) and it's not credible anymore :p

Now you miss everyone (except me) and it's not credible anymore :p

That is because u told GEOF... PLANE-tiger face-no blind date that I miss Huno!! :mad: Now u see the cause and effect:D

That is because u told GEOF...PLANE-tiger face-no blind date that I miss Huno!!! :mad: Now u see the cause and effect:D

That's fine. You've made zooropa's night. :D You've put a little smile on someone's face. The rest doesn't matter.

As for huno, I don't think he cares. He would be here now if he would... :rolleyes: Bad huno! :p

ahh thanks, you made my night

;)

So how you going to make my night then? ;) Hey, why don't u tell you why you stare at a chick and what do you think when you are staring at her? :rolleyes:

Now you miss everyone (except me) and it's not credible anymore :p

I miss you krissie, and I'm fully credible

(die hard 4 peeps July 4th! )

I miss you krissie, and im fully credible

(die hard 4 peeps july 4th!!)

Canada's Day was yesterday...

I know you miss me, but now you need to give us the EXCELLENT ANSWER to that question. :D

so how u gonna make my night then??;) Hey, why don't u tell u why u stare at a chick and what do u think when u r staring at her??:rolleyes:

Hmm how am I going to make your night, well I got cornflakes lol

OK when I stare at a chick its usually because she is hot and I'm interested in her, sadly though I tend to look away as soon as she makes eye contact, then I spent the next 5 minutes beating meself up for not talking to her

Dam my shyness!!

:)

hmm how am i gonna make your nite, well i got cornflakes lol

ok when i stare at a chick its usually because she is hot and im interested in her, sadly though i tend to look away as soon as she makes eye contact, then i spent the next 5 minutes beatin meself up for not talkin to her

dam my shyness!!!

:)

Aw... hun... hugs... :o but are you sure you won't stare at ugly chicks?? :confused:

Thank you hun!

P.S. I honstly look at both ugly and hot guys, I don't why... so I am curious if guys stare at ugly chicks too

ok when i stare at a chick its usually because she is hot and im interested in her, sadly though i tend to look away as soon as she makes eye contact, then i spent the next 5 minutes beatin meself up for not talkin to her

dam my shyness!!!

:)

In this case, is there anything the girl you stare at can do to make you feel less shy, not look away, and most of all not spend the next 5 minutes beating yourself up (I guess this happens each time you stare at her, look away, etc. right?)?

Better yet, is there anything she can do to help you out and so that you can go and actually say something to her, instead of JUST staring? :rolleyes:

Ugly chicks - hmmm that's a good question but then again how do we describe ugly? I mean one persons ugly could be anothers beauty.

I think what makes a person stand out from the crowd is a unique feature, sadly this means that the said person could be ugly to one person and hot to another.

It's a fine line to walk and maybe what I'm saying makes no sense.

But to answer your question I wouldn't stare merely peek :)

In this case, is there anything the girl you stare at can do to make you feel less shy, not look away, and most of all not spend the next 5 minutes beating yourself up (I guess this happens each time you stare at her, look away, etc., right?)?

Better yet, is there anything she can do to help you out and so that you can go and actually say something to her, instead of JUST staring? :rolleyes:

Smile, all she would have to do is smile.

You see the reason I turn away is because I don't want to appear a weirdo, thus by smiling the girl would give out the simple sign that she likes what she sees.

but r u sure u won't stare at ugly chicks???:confused:

Just wondering... Why are you so persistent on this question concerning "ugly chicks"? :eek: Is there a reason?

By the way ladeez, while we are gathered here alone, lol, what do you think of my pic :)

Smile, all she would have to do is smile.

you see the reason i turn away is because i dont want to appear a weirdo, thus by smiling the girl would give out the simple sign that she likes what she sees.

OK, but...

What if she's shy too?

What if she just doesn't dare to smile at you?

Smile, all she would have to do is smile.

you see the reason i turn away is because i dont want to appear a weirdo, thus by smiling the girl would give out the simple sign that she likes what she sees.

Thank you for telling us that! But what if I am a friendly person and I smile all the time? To everyone:confused:... It's important to be nice!:) do u think he will still get it that I am intersted in him?:confused:

Thank you for telling us that! But what if I am a friendly person and I smile all the time?! to everyone:confused: ...It's important to be nice!:) do u think he will still get it that I am intersted in him?:confused:

Do you smile at strangers? All the time?

OK OK

First off if she is shy too then that's a problem. I honestly think sometimes you got to have the guts to go up and say "hows it goin"

Oh and if you smile and look at the guy then yes I'm sure he will get it, either that or he can't read signs too well

Do you smile at strangers? All the time?

no... I mean... at school, I pretty much know everyone, so I smile to everyone kind of. It's not a big school, and people are all very friendly anyway.:)

btw ladeez, while we are gathered here alone, lol, what do you think of my pic :)

Is that you? :D

Duhh

no...I mean ...at school, I pretty much know everyone, so I smile to everyone kinda of. It's not a big school, and ppl are all very friendly anyway.:)

Ah okay. :) Got it.

So there is a guy in your school who's always staring at you, not smiling, only staring; you might be interested in him and you wonder why is he staring, hoping he might be crazy about you. :p Right?

Why yes it is lol

Ah okay. :) Got it.

So there is a guy in your school who's always staring at you, not smiling, only staring; you might be interested in him and you wonder why is he staring, hoping he might be crazy about you. :p Right?

Well actually, :rolleyes: there are plenty of guys do this to me. A LOT OF THEM, so I am confused... :confused:

well actually, :rolleyes: there are plenty of guys do this to me. A LOT OF THEM, so I am confused...:confused:

Ahh that must mean you are fine looking in which case I demand you fly over here and go out with me

:)

well actually, :rolleyes: there are plenty of guys do this to me. A LOT OF THEM, so I am confused...:confused:

But you're not interested in all of them, are you? :p

ahh that must mean you are fine lookin in which case i demand you fly over here and go out with me

:)

But how about Huno and GEOFF... PLANE? :confused: Are you british? Hum... :rolleyes: I think I love that...
P.S. I think you look handsome, and seems like a guy that would like to be bullied by me... :D

But you're not interested in all of them, are you? :p

No, actually not! I only like Huno and GER>>PLANE;) :D

but how about Huno and GEOFF...PLANE??:confused: Are you british??Hum...:rolleyes: I think I love that...
P.S. I think you look handsome, and seems like a guy that would like to be bullied by me...:D


Nope I'm irish and yea ill be bullied by you lol I'm pretty easy going

And thanks

No, actually not! I only like Huno and GER>>PLANE;) :D

Then why make such a fuss out of it? :p As I said, they think you're nice to look at so they look at you. They can't help it.

Just go and talk to them.

Show them that you're confident and not mortally afraid to go talk to them, the way they seem to be. All right? :p

nope im irish and yea ill be bullied by ya lol im pretty easy goin

and thanks

Where are you at then? :rolleyes: in England?

No, actually not! I only like Huno and GER>>PLANE;) :D

You forgot zooropa :D

Indeed she did

I'm in belfast at mo, where be you at and what age will you be? I'm 21 by the way :)

You forgot zooropa :D


Do you have to say that? :mad: are you a friend of mine! :confused: Did u hear that he is irish? I don't like guys who drinks too much!:D And again, don't tell him about it, he problly still thinks I like him:D

Are you guys setting up a blind date? :D

Beware zooropa, she's half Latina! :D

Lol drinks too much, cheeky cheeky!!

Not all of us are drunks, only 99% lol

Besides aren't all the girls in the world meant to love our accents ;)

Krissie you can have me if she won't ;)

Lol

indeed she did

im in belfast at mo, where be you at and wat age will you be? im 21 by the way :)

21 as well;) , where is Belfast anyway? :rolleyes:

To Kristynn: are you racist? :mad:

Are you guys setting up a blind date? :D

Beware zooropa, she's half Latina! :D


That's cool, I like to explore new cultures :)

besides arent all the girls in the world meant to love our accents ;)


Yup, it's exactly what I was going to say. You must have that awesome Irish accent!

By the way, I hate being a 2nd choice. Count me OFF!

21 as well;) , where is Belfast anyway??:rolleyes:

To Kristynn: are you racist??:mad:

Belfast is in a little irish country called Ireland

To Kristynn: are you racist??:mad:

Are you serious?? I was just kidding, hun :) . I am NOT a racist at all. Sorry about that though :o

I looove Latin people as much as I looove Spanish. :p I really do!

Are you serious??? I was just kidding, hun :) . I am NOT a racist at all.

I looove Latin people as much as I looove Spanish. :p I really do!

Thank you,that's all I want to hear.:cool: In exchange, u can have this irish guy, but u need to make sure that u don't still huno from me okay?:o :D

Thank you,that's all I want to hear.:cool: In exchange, u can have this irish guy, but u need to make sure that u don't still huno from me okay?:o :D

You're 21? I thought you were younger. :p

See, she prefers huno cause huno's Latino! I can't keep your secrets anymore. :)

Thank you,that's all I want to hear.:cool: In exchange, u can have this irish guy, but u need to make sure that u don't still huno from me okay?:o :D

Who is this Huno guy, a rival to my new loves affections, I shall challenge him to a drinking contest!!

Lol

Krissis is that pic you, been meaning to ask that for ages

You're 21? I thought you were younger. :p

Because you are an old woman! :p seriously I am 21

krissis is that pic you, been meaning to ask that for ages

Always the same question, but the answer is NO. Sorry to disappoint you.

Why krissis? :rolleyes:

coz u r an old woman!!:p seriously I am 21

I'm a little bit younger. :p

[email protected] - that's all I'm saying lol

I'm a little bit younger. :p

What age are you

wat age are you

Mickey the Irish guy,

I am 20.

Mickey the Irish guy,

I am 20.

Hehehe, I knew I am more mature then you are! little sis:D

Mickey the Irish guy,

I am 20.

Ahh I wish I was called mickey but sadly I'm called Will.

20 hmm that's a good age

ahh i wish i was called mickey

I knew it! :D

Never mind, do you all have the Facebook? :D

never mind, do ya all have the facebook??:D

Nope but I do have myspace and dare I say it Bebo!!

never mind, do ya all have the facebook??:D

Nope :rolleyes:

Myspace.com/spikybill - check it out

I tend to fall for nice guys myself, so this can't always be true. I do know a lot of girls that like the "bad boy" type and not the nice guys. My best relationships have been with nice guys.

I tend to fall for nice guys myself, so this can't always be true. I do know a lot of girls that like the "bad boy" type and not the nice guys. My best relationships have been with nice guys.

Oh come one everyone knows that we like nice boys,huh?;)Will:D
Continue our conversation will, let's ignore the third person:D

Is it okay to call you Mickey? :)

I tend to fall for nice guys myself, so this can't always be true. I do know a lot of girls that like the "bad boy" type and not the nice guys. My best relationships have been with nice guys.

True, but I still think nice guys are hard to find. :rolleyes:

Sure why not, called me will, call me Mickey hell call me anytime

You see what I did there, works every time :)

sure why not, called me will, call me Mickey hell call me anytime

ya see what i did there, works everytime :)

May I ask you a question: How tall are you?:rolleyes:

ya see what i did there, works everytime :)

That is?

May I ask you a question: How tall are you?:rolleyes:

He's 1.73 :D

Actually I'm 5foot 9

Don't know what that is in centimetres, we don't work that way over here

actually im 5foot 9

dont know what that is in centimetres, we dont work that way over here

That's 1.75 m

We have them both in Canada :)

Ahh I was close then, that was a guess

So how's things in canada land

ahh i was close then, that was a guess

so hows things in canada land

Everything's good in Canadaland.

Damn, I leave you for a few hours and you're already cheating on me with zooropa? I don't even remember what the original question was...

Anyway I am too tired to answer all the various witticisms that were exchanged between the lot of you, but here are the pertinent points:

1) I am Sir Hunoeth III, MS, Esq. I am to be referenced in the third person perspective ONLY.

2) Yes, I am latino, Mexican, in fact. So Mexican, my socks are still wet from crossing the river.

3) woh337, I am humbled by your fascination and would be pleased to make your acquaintance. Be warned, though, that my eyes have been described as portals to the purest essence of man. The instant you set your gaze upon my glorious visage you will be seduced and also tranced, and I can promise you only that I will take you into my arms, comb back your hair and, in the comfort of your boudoir, we will make beautiful, sweet, passionate, hot wet monkey love.

Ladies and genetelman, Sir Hunoeth III, MS, Esq. is back! :)

1) What the heck Sir Hunoeth III, MS, Esq. Huh?

2) She'd be happy to know that, I guess. :p She was missing you badly...

3) LOL... no comment!

Everyone misses me when I'm gone but no one misses me when I'm around... :(

So I am still wondering why you ladies won't just go up to these guys and start conversations yourselves. We are in modern times now! Women need to step up and take the reins!

Oh, and kristynn, if that pic wasn't you, just WHO was it? :)

So I am still wondering why you ladies won't just go up to these guys and start conversations yourselves. We are in modern times now! Women need to step up and take the reins!

Just cause it would be REALLY nice if THEY would just be able to do that. Very much appreciated indeed! :)

We can do it if we want to (sometimes!), but it would be better the other way around. Can't explain it better, but yeah, it would be better. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know... everybody says that.. modern times, bla bla bla... but still.

Just cause it would be REALLY nice if THEY would just be able to do that. Very much appreciated indeed! :)

We can do it if we want to (sometimes!), but it would be better the other way around. Can't explain it better, but yeah, it would be better. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know... everybody says that.. modern times, bla bla bla... but still.

No, I get it; I have female friends who absolutely will NOT talk to a guy first.

"I can't do that, I'm the GIRL!"

Well, if I could go back to the past and change my shyness I would, because I could have saved myself a lot of grief. I lost a lot of golden opportunities because of it.

I remember my first crush... this girl was GORGEOUS. Just stunningly beautiful, to this day I still think about her. I first saw her in the 9th grade, we had health class together. Anyway, we would always stare at each other in class but I could NOT talk to her to save my life; any time I passed her by in the halls or in class we'd look at each other. She even once sat nearby with her friends, said, "Oh, there's huno!" and they all turned and giggled.

The signs were obvious.

In the 10th grade we had P.E. and it was the same thing. One day, though, through some miracle of god I managed to compliment her; just a few sentences, nothing more. The next day, she came to ME and started asking about me, my classes, what I did, who my friends were and all that.

This went on for a while, and her friends would start smiling at me and all that. She'd talk to my friends about me. Join up with me to play in P.E. Meet me after class. All that.

This girl gave me the loaded gun--all I had to do was pull the trigger.

Of course, I didn't... :( :( :( and of course, she moved on. I spent the rest of high school trying to win her back, but it was far too late.

Let this be a lesson to all you shy guys out there: quit obsessing. Start acting. You get a short window of time and after that's over, it is OVER. Staring, wishing, hoping, pleading gets you nowhere. Move. Talk. Live, laugh, love. And when you get signals, ACT on them; don't sit there wondering what they might mean, if they were meant for you--screw all that. Just go for it.

Worst thing that can happen: she politely says "No thanks" and you move on.


--huno

P.S.: no, wait--the worst thing that can happen is you never ask her out and she ends up bitter, like kristynn. :D

P.S.: no, wait--the worst thing that can happen is you never ask her out and she ends up bitter, like kristynn. :D

:( :( :( I regret some things too. Actually, my biggest regret has something to do with this. It's sad... Same as you, huno. :(

Now, do you understand why?

Well I think you can start by taking the initiative, kristynn. Just throw yourself out there. I imagine Canada's progressive, probably more so than the U.S.: be the one to initiate, to instigate, to converse!

Well I think you can start by taking the initiative, kristynn. Just throw yourself out there. I imagine Canada's progressive, probably more so than the U.S.: be the one to initiate, to instigate, to conversate!

I am, I really am! But not always, and not when it's most needed :rolleyes:; and it's crazy how they become shy/intimidated/whatever that I just feel bad myself in the end. :rolleyes: Seriously...

Just cause it would be REALLY nice if THEY would just be able to do that. Very much appreciated indeed! :)

We can do it if we want to (sometimes!), but it would be better the other way around. Can't explain it better, but yeah, it would be better. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know... everybody says that.. modern times, bla bla bla... but still.

Exactly! :D

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What is this?

What for?

I have wondered this for a long time. I even had an experiment. For 3 months I trweated every girl I met like complete . I was mean. Dry. I was horrrible (I didn't beaat them or anything). I got more friggen action and free dinners in that 3 months than in my WHOLE LIFE. I have asked other girls and they say it is the drama behind having a mean BF. I personally think the following makes sense:

A guy beats his GF and to make up for it. Buys her a puppy. There is no between. Either the guys is really bad or he is extra sweet. The girls only react the extra sweet and forget about why he is being extra sweet in the first place.

Nice guys do finish last, however, they finish last to a girl that does not deserve them. A girl who will choose an over you is not a girl you want at all. When you actually do find a girl that will choose you over an... then you finish more than first... you are on top of the world.

Nice guys develop great 'karma' and social network. S eventually become known as just that, s. people won't want to work with him or talk to him and he will have a trophy girl that can't stick up for herself.

Nice girls also finish last. Find a nice girl... if one is actually out there

Krystinn---this thought was originally intended for Zooropa1985. Sorry. The site I referred to is one that is intended to get guys to understand that women don't stay for wusses. Interesting reading. You should check it out, anyway.

Lol don't worry my friend, I don't need any help when it comes to the ladeez, was just wondering what others thought?

I don't know why so many girls like "bad boys" I just knowthat not every girl is like that. But nice guys don't finish last, because they will get a nice girl who will be there through everything. Nice guys get the girls that will stick around

I don't know why so many girls like "bad boys"
Well, my theory is that girls like masculinity, strength, and ambition. But most girls confuse masculinity with stupidity, strength with drunken aggression, and ambition with the desire to hold the record for most tequila shots downed in the frat.

I just knowthat not every girl is like that. But nice guys don't finish last, because they will get a nice girl who will be there through everything. Nice guys get the girls that will stick around
Yes, but the problem is the number of nice girls is also dwindling. See, at one point there existed a surplus of nice guys and girls. People naturally want what they perceive as valuable and scarce, and so the nice guys and girls were slowly abandoned for morons and cheap sluts. These people have children and raise them to be morons and sluts, while the nice guys and girls, once abundant and in control of society, began to produce less and less offspring, thinning the pool of decent, law-abiding people in society.

Right now, we're in the peak of that downswing into social despair. My hope is that, eventually, nice guys and girls will be as scarce as the bottom-feeding chimps you all call "bad boys" once were and society'll be back to normal.

I hope it happens soon... I'm tired of being passed up for gang members in Escalades.

Nice guys finish. Who cares when. My best friend and I are nice guys who are drilling away at college now. Our old friends, who aren't nice guys, are drop-outs who are literally in jail or stuck raising kids with a wife that they don't love or care about.