View Full Version : How can you force your beliefs on someone?
OhSweetJesus
Oct 5, 2005, 09:05 AM
:confused: Please tell me if someone simply states what they believe how is that forcing your beliefs?
J_9
May 13, 2007, 12:02 PM
When you argue with someone over and over and continuously think your way is the one and only right way, you are trying to force people to believe your way is the only way.
That is not right. I have my beliefs, which I choose to keep to myself, but if you knew them you would bash me and my beliefs like you have begun to do to so many here already.
Just because I may choose to believe differently than you does not make what I believe in wrong.
A good debate is nice once in a while, but telling people that your way is the only way is totally unacceptable and rude.
I was raised to keep my religion and my politics to myself, and it has worked very well for me.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 12:07 PM
I am hardly bashing nor am I arguing with anyone.. you have taken things way out of context. People can believe what ever that want.. but if it isn't about Jesus it isn't right... point blank The bible is right.. maybe I actually know what I believe maybe that is my problem. Oh well I say my peace and that is that. I know the truth and I know I am not alone.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 12:11 PM
but if it isnt about Jesus it isnt right... point blank The bible is right..
My point EXACTLY!!
So Judiasm is not right because they do not follow the Bible?
They are wrong for being born Jewish?
Muslums are wrong because they believe in the Kuran?
Are they wrong for being born Muslum?
I recommend you take a course in World Religions. It would certainly open your eyes to the world at large.
incognito
May 13, 2007, 12:14 PM
Well your first point was right on, you are NOT "forcing your beliefs" when you say what they are.
Your second post is contradictory, "people can believe what ever [they] want... but if it isn't about Jesus it isn't right... point blank The bible is right."
You say that you are tolerant of other people's beliefs and opinions but then you say if it isn't what YOU personally believe in, Jesus, then that makes their beliefs null and void.
Fr_Chuck
May 13, 2007, 12:15 PM
Please understand, you are coming here as a new member and I have received more complaints on you than I have spammers and people posting obscene material because of your attitude and your constant use of the "disagree" buttom, You should state your beleifs, perhaps using bible verses, but again, others can use bible verses to show their point of view. Remember all christian beliefs are based off a bible verse or teaching, even those that are opposite
No one is asking you to change your view points, only respect those that have other beliefs, since they are also all based on the bible. And they are just as sure as you are that they are right and you are wrong.
So you know the truth, so does the other members who have a different idea, they know that their teaching is also the truth, you need to come to grasp with that, if you study comparison religion you will find that many opposite beliefs are all bible based
So if you are truly a Christian, you will understand that Jesus did not go in and put down anyone for their belief, he merely lived and expressed his teachings,
We want you to be a happy part of our family ( as disfuntional as it is) and we can share beleifs, some will learn from you, and you may well learn some other bibie teachings you were not aware of. No one stops learning.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 12:17 PM
Please let us all remember that the Bible is open for interpretation. What one may see out of a particular verse, someone else may see and understand something completely and entirely different.
That does not make one person right and the other wrong, it just means that we all see things differently.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 12:25 PM
What I say is how I feel I never said any one people or any one religion. If you have a problem with Jesus that's you. I never pointed any fingers at anyone. I said that I (key word) Believe in Jesus and I know what he is all about. Yes he is the only way... if you can't or won't accept that its your problem. I don't appreciate being told that I am bashing I am absolutely not! I am telling what I know and believe to be the truth if you can't accept it fine! Don't tell me I am bashing or forcing anyone to believe anything. You can't force anyone to do anything.. I mean really get a grip.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 12:25 PM
Please understand, you are comming here as a new member and I have recieved more complaints on you than I have spammers and people posting obscene material because of your attitude and your constant use of the "disagree" buttom, You should state your beleifs, perhaps using bible verses, but again, others can use bible verses to show thier point of view. Remember all christian beliefs are based off of a bible verse or teaching, even those that are opposite
No one is asking you to change your view points, only respect those that have other beliefs, since they are also all based on the bible. And they are just as sure as you are that they are right and you are wrong.
so you know the truth, so does the other members who have a different idea, they know that their teaching is also the truth, you need to come to grasp with that, if you study comparison religion you will find that many opposite beliefs are all bible based
So if you are truly a Christian, you will understand that Jesus did not go in and put down anyone for thier beleif, he merely lived and expressed his teachings,
We want you to be a happy part of our family ( as disfuntional as it is) and we can share beleifs, some will learn from you, and you may well learn some other bibie teachings you were not aware of. No one stops learning.
You need to get a grip.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 12:28 PM
So you are saying that any religion except your is not the way? I did not put those words in your mouth you said it. Here, I'll show you:
he is the only way
Girl, take a world religion class, you need to know that there are others who are just as passionate about their beliefs as you are, but they believe differently than you do.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 12:30 PM
Right then, Caresse.
Listen up and listen good !
With an attitude like that you are highly unlikely to last long at this site.
TOLERANCE of others beliefs and ideals is something that AMHD prides itself on.
Now you are free to express your own beliefs in any way you want, but when you start to belittle other members because they disagree with you, then you have over stepped the line.
This type of activity WILL cease NOW.
This is your FINAL WARNING on this subject.
Action will follow if you continue posting in this fashion and retribution will be swift.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 12:32 PM
I haven't belittled anyone
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 12:34 PM
FYI
1. To represent or speak of as contemptibly small or unimportant; disparage: a person who belittled our efforts to do the job right.
2. To cause to seem less than another or little: The size of the office tower belittles the surrounding buildings. See Synonyms at decry.
Enough said
NeedKarma
May 13, 2007, 12:36 PM
You need to get a grip.Another good christian treating people with respect.
Not.
So now are you going to tell me the bible is wrong?It sometimes is.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 12:42 PM
Another good christian treating people with respect.
Not.
It sometimes is.
SHow me one time that it is wrong..
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 12:45 PM
Really go back to your post #9 where you DISRESPECT Fr_Chuck.
Not only one of the sites most senior members, but a man of the cloth!
Also The Bible is one of the most well read works of Fiction there is.
The stories may have been based on fact at one time but after generations of being retold, by word of mouth, they have lost that fact and become merely a story.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 12:50 PM
A man of the cloth? He does need to get a grip... He kept on having an issue with what I believe... I don't agree with his sugar coating and him thinking he knows everything that is not so not saying I know everything... nor will I be told I am bashing so far from the truth. If I want to express what I know and believe to be the truth he should allow me that right. Like I said I am not bashing belittling or forcing anything on anyone.. I say what I know and believe with authority becaue I know Jesus is real in my life. I will share what I have experienced with anyone...
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 01:07 PM
Jesus may be "real" in your life but this doesn't give you the "right" to tell others that they are wrong for believing anything else.
Point in fact is your post, quoted by J_9, #3.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 01:21 PM
Jesus may be "real" in your life but this doesn't give you the "right" to tell others that they are wrong for believing anything else.
Point in fact is your post, quoted by J_9, #3.
Yea sure... who gives you the right to tell me anything.
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 01:24 PM
Hmm I wonder.
Could it be because that I am an ADMINISTRATOR of this site and as such charged with up holding the Rules and ensuring the smooth operation of said site?
Who would be the site OWNER !
You are showing a serious amount of negative attitude for someone so young.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 01:29 PM
Hmm I wonder.
Could it be because that I am an ADMINISTRATOR of this site and as such charged with up holding the Rules and ensuring the smooth operation of said site ?!
Who would be the site OWNER !
You are showing a serious amount of negative attitude for someone so young.
I am not negative at all actually just annoyed that people want to jump on me for what I believe and discredit my beliefs... but that o.k. I am not worrying about it. I said what I needed to and that all for right now. I just don't like when people discredit Jesus... its just so wrong.
Capuchin
May 13, 2007, 01:29 PM
yea sure...who gives you the right to tell me anything.
Sorry, but what gives you the right to tell anyone else anything?
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 01:35 PM
Sorry, but what gives you the right to tell anyone else anything?
Was that comment pointed toward you? How about you stay in your limits... no one said anything to you.
Thanks
Capuchin
May 13, 2007, 01:38 PM
So... not answering that one are we?
I'm perfectly within my limits.
Please realise that just because you say something, that doesn't make it true.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 01:44 PM
So.... not answering that one are we?
I'm perfectly within my limits.
Please realise that just because you say something, that doesn't make it true.
It is true to me as I have said you don't have to believe it... why people are getting so uptight I couldn't tell you but whatever people get mad at what they don't understand I guess... like I said the comment wasn't directed to you.. I will not argue with you, you have no ground to stand on really.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 01:45 PM
was that comment pointed toward you?? How about you stay in your limits... no one said anything to you.
Thanks
This is a community board, anyone who wants to participate is very welcome to participate.
So, I don't know who you are to be telling anyone to stay in their limits.
Woman of Jesus, NOT!!
<--------- wonders if this is just the newest troll of the week.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 01:47 PM
This is a community board, anyone who wants to participate is very welcome to participate.
So, I don't know who you are to be telling anyone to stay in their limits.
Woman of Jesus, NOT!!!!
<--------- wonders if this is just the newest troll of the week.
Picking a fight and pointing finger is not a good thing.. kind of childish don't you think..
Capuchin
May 13, 2007, 01:49 PM
Oh, so you're just so much more intelligent than the rest of us that you can see the truth in the world and we can't?
I do hope that you don't believe that.
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 01:52 PM
NO one here is "picking a fight" excpet your negative attitude.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 01:52 PM
Oh, so you're just so much more intelligent than the rest of us that you can see the truth in the world and we can't?
I do hope that you don't believe that.
Did I ever say that!! Don't put words in my mouth! Stop just stop I mean really how petty can this get. I am done replying to such crazyness.
Good day!
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 01:59 PM
My vote is for Troll of The Week.
Capuchin
May 13, 2007, 02:01 PM
Did i ever say that!!! Dont put words in my mouth! Stop just stop I mean really how petty can this get. I am done replying to such crazyness.
Good day!
You implied it repeatedly. Take care :)
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:03 PM
My vote is for Troll of The Week.
Don't forget what happens to trolls and others who try and create problems. ;)
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 02:05 PM
I have no idea what you mean, but my finger is starting to hurt a little ;)
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:06 PM
Yea a real problem I am sure.. I hope God gets a hold of each and everyone of you... you still will be stuck until you experience him.. then you will see. I will be praying for each of you. Serisouly. When you experience him some and find me I want to hear the report.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:11 PM
Please don't pray for me, I can and do pray for myself. My God is a loving God and I am in no fear of Him for any reason. I am in His graces, please pray for yourself.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:11 PM
I have no idea what you mean, but my finger is starting to hurt a little ;)
Well stop pointing it at me try yourself next time.. :)
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 02:12 PM
FSM doesn't require pray as HE already knows HE is the greatest.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:13 PM
Oh, yes, FSM, He watches all!!
Scratch that itchy finger Ben.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:21 PM
What is FSM?
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 02:27 PM
Well you have already read and REPORTED it.
OhSweetJesus has reported this post:
He Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - Words to live by
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-religion/he-gospel-flying-spaghetti-monster-words-live-91191-post408532.html#post408532
This is part of this question:
He Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - Words to live by
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-religion/he-gospel-flying-spaghetti-monster-words-live-91191.html
This is the reason that the user gave:
Just look at it!
This message has been sent to all moderators of this topic, or all administrators if there are no moderators.
Please respond to this post as applicable.
You really have no idea how one of these forums work do you?
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:34 PM
Well you have already read and REPORTED it.
You really have no idea how one of these forums work do you ?!
Nothing better to do but try and start trouble... eh? I feel bad for you I really do.. what a sad world.. guess what! I don't care how about that. Makes you feel bad doesn't it lol I feel really bad for you. I truly do. Prayer works.. atleast will give you something better to do with your time.. honestly try it! Actually since you feel so strongly about me you should pray for me.. Do that because here you can't win. But thanks for playing
curlybenswife
May 13, 2007, 02:36 PM
The only praying he will be doing tonight dear girl is to me you need to go pray to your god that you never have to deal with us evil beings ever again.
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 02:36 PM
Hey I'm not the one show intolerance for others beliefs.
THIS is the ONLY point of the WHOLE thread.
Now just because someone posts something that isn't what you believe you report it.
Now Miss KETTLE meet Mr POT
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:37 PM
LOL, Ben, you can't win here!!
Do you see that?
Hmmmmmmm
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:39 PM
Hey I'm not the one show intolerance for others beliefs.
THIS is the ONLY point of the WHOLE thread.
Now just because someone posts something that isn't what you believe you report it.
Now Miss KETTLE meet Mr POT
Actually that isn't why I reported it... and you thought you had it all figured out.. DARN!. I reported it because it was rude but obviously you must be o.k. with that..
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:42 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if Jesus would be proud about the way she is revealing in her clothing. I know I NEVER wear anything that revealing.
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 02:42 PM
Well as your "report" was as vague as your arguments here it's hardly surprising, now is it?
Now if you'd explained HOW you found it rude then that might have been a different matter.
Surprisingly enough I'm NOT a mind reader.
I leave such mundanities to mere mortals.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:45 PM
Well as your "report" was as vague as your arguements here it's hardly surprising, now is it ??
Now if you'd explained HOW you found it rude then that might of been a different matter.
Surprisingly enough I'm NOT a mind reader.
I leave such mundanities to mere mortals.
No worries ben I think I have talked enough to you for a life time..
Capuchin
May 13, 2007, 02:46 PM
I much prefer the invisible pink unicorn (blessed be her holy hooves).
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 02:47 PM
Well you have a very boring life if all you do is talk to some techie geek about the merits, or not, of your beliefs.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:48 PM
No worries ben i think i have talked enough to you for a life time..
Sorry, he will be around much longer than you hun. So, remember that every time you post here.
curlybenswife
May 13, 2007, 02:50 PM
And he is so much better than your god too :)
J_9
May 13, 2007, 02:52 PM
<--------- Bows to Ben (and FSM of course)
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 02:58 PM
Psalm 31:18
Let the lying lips be put to silence; which speak grievous things proudly and contemptuously against the righteous.
Psalm 34:16
The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth
Psalm 35:1
Plead my cause, O LORD, with them that strive with me: fight against them that fight against me.
Psalm 35:21
Yea, they opened their mouth wide against me, and said, Aha, aha, our eye hath seen it.
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
curlybenswife
May 13, 2007, 03:00 PM
LMAO must get ben to print that out we need fuel for the fire
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 03:00 PM
Well done excellent response.
10 out of 10 for effort MINUS several million for lack of original thought.
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 03:01 PM
And he is so much better than your god too :)
Isaiah 59:13
In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.
J_9
May 13, 2007, 03:01 PM
Please don't preach to me,
My finger is now itching!!
curlybenswife
May 13, 2007, 03:02 PM
WOO HOOO keep it up lady I might have enough to stoke it tonight
J_9
May 13, 2007, 03:06 PM
MB church obviously
OhSweetJesus
May 13, 2007, 03:20 PM
Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
curlybenswife
May 13, 2007, 03:21 PM
Yes baby keep it up its getting hot in here...
Curlyben
May 13, 2007, 03:22 PM
Yawn.
Now I'm bored.
Say Goodnight Zebedee
J_9
May 13, 2007, 03:25 PM
Yawn, they are contagious.
Did it take you that long to copy it word for word?
NeedKarma
May 13, 2007, 05:04 PM
So why was my FSM thread deleted then?
Fr_Chuck
May 13, 2007, 06:16 PM
Just for everyone's info, the poster has been banned due to other issues not related to this post,
NeedKarma, I did edit a couple of words, I do know there was a complaint on it, but I did not see that it violated any rules.