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sweetmelissa
May 11, 2007, 02:06 PM
My husband and I have a lot of sex but never make love. My problem is it is boring and predictable. I have tried everything to spice it up. How do I get him to become a better lover? I had a brief affair and the intimacy was THE BEST I have ever experienced. I ended it because I don't want another I want my spouse and I want it to be phenominal at least sometimes. He wonders why I don't want it more often. I have tried to talk to him and I have told him exactly what I want and he continues to do things exactly the same with no effort to change. Please help... any and all advice appreciated.

whiteladybug2002
May 11, 2007, 02:10 PM
Honey, I am right there with you!

My husband is a great man and we have a wonderful relationship, but you put us two in a bed... and all fun and excitement is out! Same ole, same ole! His form of foreplay is, "You want to have sex?" I don't know what to do either! I have talked to him, but all that does is hurt his ego. I have tried myself to spice things up, but it goes unnoticed and the favor is not returned!

It sucks!!

sweetmelissa
May 11, 2007, 02:32 PM
Honey, I am right there with you!!

My husband is a great man and we have a wonderful relationship, but you put us two in a bed.........and all fun and excitement is out!! Same ole, same ole!! His form of foreplay is, "You want to have sex?" I don't know what to do either! I have talked to him, but all that does is hurt his ego. I have tried myself to spice things up, but it goes unnoticed and the favor is not returned!!

It sucks!!!!!


What to do? Good to know I am not alone. Sorry your in the same predicament.

whiteladybug2002
May 11, 2007, 02:36 PM
Surely someone has some suggestions??

quaint11
May 11, 2007, 03:27 PM
<raises hand>... I have a few.


Consider writing your husband a detailed "story" of a sexy fantasy you have of him or something you want him to do. If you could paint the perfect picture of what describes a hot night in bed, tell this story from the woman's perspective, and spell out what you would like.

Also, start taking little steps to entice yourself to want your husband. For instance, discover what turns you on, and begin implementing this measure before encountering your husband in intimacy.

For example, many couples have predictable sex lives. If this is true for yours, use that information to your advantage. Take a relaxing shower or bath before hand, spend some time alone in your room in the quiet, touching your body softly. Don't be afraid to do some of the work for him... after all, you will hopefully benefit the most from it.


It will take the pressure and your expectation off him, and the sex can be more about the sexual intimacy, which is what many of us ladies are really looking for. ;-)


I know most of us would prefer a man who already knows how the story goes, but unfortunately, life isn't fair, and we must often take matters into our own hands, so to speak.

sweetmelissa
May 11, 2007, 03:53 PM
Thank you Quaint11 I will try this. My toys are no longer satisfying:(

kepi
May 11, 2007, 04:36 PM
How about... letting him know you're simply NOT satisfying you. Instead of complaining about him, talk to him and let him know what you want. Relationships are about communication!

quaint11
May 11, 2007, 04:40 PM
Here is a site worth checking out. :-)

Enjoy Great Sex -- ThirdAge (http://www.thirdage.com/romance/sh/)

letmetellu
May 11, 2007, 06:28 PM
I am not sure how long you have been married but if it has not been long maybe your husband is just dumb about sex and the female body. All a lots of guys know is what they learned in the back seat of a car during a two minute poke. I have to tell you that there are also some girls that have no idea of just how a penis works but that does not matter that much because the guys desire is to have a orgasm and usually does in any case.

So I suggest to you to teach your hubby what your parts are and what they do to you. Tell his what you clitoris is and how to manipulate it to bring you to the heights you desire. Teach him that time is a good thing, and that maybe you could schedule your sex when there is not a ballgame on or a car race, giving you an hour or so of his undivided attention. Don't be afraid to talk to him, telling hem how each thing he does feels. Sex is in the mind also so go into his mind.

Fr_Chuck
May 11, 2007, 07:03 PM
Wear a costume to bed, get some body paints, and let him know, guide his hands as to what you want.

Get some marriage counseling, everyone needs it some, it sounds like you need it more than ever

AltaVista
May 11, 2007, 08:37 PM
Well, hard as it is to admit Sweetmelissa & whiteladybug, I'm the male version of you two. And it's been this way for 25 years. Yes we have communication and so on... it's just how things are. I'll leave it at that.
I'm so very sorry for your situation and believe me, it's not easy to deal with!

robertsqueen
May 11, 2007, 09:37 PM
I would try to spice things up before you two part. Give him a knock your socks off kiss, or whisper something dirty into his ear that you want to do to him before you walk out the door. Another thing to try is write him a naughty email or text message telling him how bad you want him and what you are going to do to him.

YeloDasy
May 11, 2007, 10:03 PM
Intimacy doesn't have to started in bed... and it sounds like there is an expectation that it will be bad, no matter what... it is a given... and sometimes it is doomed before you are even doing anything, just by your attitude, knowing it is not good enough...

So I would suggest a sex therapist... they will help you start over... relearn each other, yourself, and it can be fun things the therapist suggests. You will also learn to communicate, which brings the intimacy, even non verbal!

If you don't go to counseling, I suggest taking the pressure off sex, and just build intimacy. Think about what makes you feel close to someone... etc... cause if you keep your same doomed mindset, it will never be the way you want.

EnglishRose
May 12, 2007, 08:53 AM
Has anyone actally been to a sex therapist? I have the same problem, but I'm not even married yet! I'm just not sure this will work because I can barely get him to talk to me never mind a stranger but I have tried EVERYTHING!!

Ash123
May 12, 2007, 02:13 PM
Ouch.

Why are so many men bad in bed?
The same reason so many men are bad at communicating with their S/O:
They put emotional connection secondary - unless it's of the son/mother kind:
see also Sigmund Freud.

Yikes. So, What can you do?

Take control. Do not expect a ham-fisted, wham-bam-thank-you-maam guy to suddenly become mr. velvet in the satin sheets...

BUT next time he is "in the mood" or you are - do it by YOUR rules... don't be afraid to act out what turns you on. And pleasure yourself however you wish. Say whatever you want. Do not hold back... and yes, make sure he gets to the finish line too... he'll wonder: "What the hell was that?!" maybe you will give him more. Maybe you won't... if he learns what you like - he may get more

More on this later.

Sunshine2
May 12, 2007, 09:22 PM
My husband and I have alot of sex but never make love. My problem is it is boring and predictable. I have tried everything to spice it up. How do I get him to become a better lover? I had a brief affair and the intimacy was THE BEST I have ever experienced. I ended it because I don't want another I want my spouse and I want it to be phenominal at least sometimes. He wonders why I don't want it more often. I have tried to talk to him and I have told him exactly what I want and he continues to do things exactly the same with no effort to change. Please help....any and all advice appreciated.
Rent a porn flick

kepi
May 12, 2007, 10:30 PM
Porn is not always the best choice- people become addicted to it.

Irena3
May 23, 2007, 04:05 PM
I am in the same boat. My husband is the only man I have ever had sex with but I know what I want and after 17 years together he still does not know how to please me. He is a very selfish lover and talking does not help. GOOD LUCK.

steviebeezie
May 23, 2007, 04:08 PM
Frankly, some men really don't like hearing they're not doing it right. I can only hope that the advice of some of these fine people works for you. Just remember to remain honest about the sex problems with your husband. But don't pressure him too much, because that can cause problems of their own--so long as he's making an effort, coax him along gently.

letmetellu
May 23, 2007, 05:40 PM
My husband and I have alot of sex but never make love. My problem is it is boring and predictable. I have tried everything to spice it up. How do I get him to become a better lover? I had a brief affair and the intimacy was THE BEST I have ever experienced. I ended it because I don't want another I want my spouse and I want it to be phenominal at least sometimes. He wonders why I don't want it more often. I have tried to talk to him and I have told him exactly what I want and he continues to do things exactly the same with no effort to change. Please help....any and all advice appreciated.

To many men do not understand how the female body works. It is not that they are not good lovers they just do not know what to do.

Men don't understand that a good night of sex may begin with him caring out the trash earlier that morning, maybe followed up buy a phone call durning the day telling her how much he loves her, and it would not hurt a thing to take her out to dinner that night. But that is not what a lot of men think, he thinks get in bed naked, that tells her what he wants, roll over on her and tries to slip it in, it won't go so he spits on his hand to lubricate things, then he slips in and after a few pumps he is through. Then he might ask "Was it good for you:?

smoothy
May 24, 2007, 07:10 AM
Well you really have to get him to want it as well, like the song says. "It takes two babe..."

Luckily I learned this when I was 18 with a girlfriend... and her girlfriend. Was a real shock at the time but I got an education of a lifetime that's served me well.

I haven't seen either of them since 1981 but will never forget them.

Luckily my wife is also interested in keeping things spiced up as well so I can honestly say I am likely way above average in satisfaction there even with 16 years in the marriage.

We both entertain each others ideas and give them a try. Like the saying goes, we'll try anything once, twice if we like it.


Find out what catches his interest... pick one thing.. then another, one step at a time. Hopefully he will take the que.

EnglishRose
May 24, 2007, 10:58 AM
Letmetellyou that was one of the bluntest answers I have read on here but sadly it was spot on. I have been trying to deal with this exact problem with my partner for months now and it has come to the point where I told him I would leave if nothing changed. Nothing changed so I have left him even though this was the man I wanted to marry. I thought the shock would change him but if anything it just caused arguments we never would have had and I had to leave. I'm really trying to tell myself that I have done the right thing. I just couldn't go on the way things were. I was having to think about other things and other people to get myself off and I grew tired of getting no sexual attention. I started to lose my confidence which affected every aspect of my life.

kepi
May 24, 2007, 12:54 PM
Thinking you can change people is the biggest mistake one can make when going into a relationship.

Manny Mo
May 24, 2007, 05:44 PM
Tease him! Don't just give it up to him. Make him work for it. He might find this exciting and can lead into some fun games you can play together. Most men are lazy when it comes to sex. They just want to get their rocks off and that's it. But if you play hard to get then it will force him to stop being lazy and help add some excitement for both of you. They may not like it at first, but don't give in. Make him give in to your needs. If he won't make that extra effort to please you then why should you do the same for him. Marriage is 50 50 and not 90 10.

Parajr
May 24, 2007, 07:11 PM
I have read research that state that over fifty percent of all aspects of love making is ninety percent mental. To say this simply over half of all aspects of sex is majority mental. The short affair probobably seemed so hott because it was frobidden fruit. Give your husband a chance. If you think that he sucks he will suck. Try sexual counseling, as long as the physical aspects are there it can work.

fix-what-you-broke
May 25, 2007, 03:20 AM
I have noticed a lot of these threads with near enough the same title.. my mans is a rubbish lover,my hubby is rubbish in bed, I have still to notice one that says "our" sexlife is dull.it takes two to tango,why is he the bad lover and not both of you? He may be thinking the same of you.
Communicate,tell him how important it is and he will get the message, guide him and tell him what you want and how you want it, men are not mind readers and I believe they shouldn't take all the blame for a dull sex life which you are BOTH involved in.

myohmy
May 25, 2007, 09:48 AM
Right on the money

Lotz_of_Questions
May 25, 2007, 12:14 PM
TOUCH HIM and GUIDE HIM.
When you are cooking and he comes home, ask him to get close. Grab his hand and put it on your breast.
Get him from behind and grab his package.
Softly run your finger one the inside of his hand.
Just try different things through out the day to make him want some. And then at night tease him. Give him oral, if he says he doesn't want to give you any, when you are giving him, turn around and do 69.
You can send him a nasty text message or just say. You Me Tonight... Can't Wait.
Little things like that. Guys don't understand that we just don't get statified with simple sex.
Good Luck :)

sexcccy013lv
May 25, 2007, 02:28 PM
My husband and I have alot of sex but never make love. My problem is it is boring and predictable. I have tried everything to spice it up. How do I get him to become a better lover? I had a brief affair and the intimacy was THE BEST I have ever experienced. I ended it because I don't want another I want my spouse and I want it to be phenominal at least sometimes. He wonders why I don't want it more often. I have tried to talk to him and I have told him exactly what I want and he continues to do things exactly the same with no effort to change. Please help....any and all advice appreciated.
Try playing sex games play act out pretend you're a whore he has to pay for, or blindfold him,and tease him to a point where he can't hold out, vise versa. See I was the same way after 20 years of doing different things to my husband and him doing to me I went for a24 year old after 20 years of marriage the sex was boring so now I'm 40 starting al over again 4 kids with my husband and now 9 month old baby with my boyfriend see that's what happens after nothing else works so if you don't want a new man and a new family try new acts

pmatt
May 26, 2007, 07:15 AM
Did you husband find out about the affair?

I would say communincate and tell him that what you don't like abou his bedskills,

Think about telling him about the affair too.

Matt3046
May 26, 2007, 09:31 PM
How does he feel about your sex life?

brandy681
May 26, 2007, 10:10 PM
My husband is the same way and it happens after a while, it was a little better in the beginning! Anyway you should really make him understand because he may not take it seriously, guys don't!! You need to make him understand, give him the silent treatment and when he asks what's wrong let him know. I know of some people that hold off on sex to get there way, now I don't neccessarilly agree with this but it WORKS!! I have been too afraid to do it because I think that my husband will run to another if I hold off on sex but it is up to you.


Also make a romantic getaway for the day and surprise your husband, go to a motel and do something different. This is the only thing that works for me is if I really make him to understand that I need the romance and a lot of times he suggests that we get a way and go to a motel, etc. The only other time my husband want to do different things more romantically is when we watch x rated films and he will be ready to try anything after watching dirty movies.

Patchi
May 26, 2007, 10:49 PM
You and your husband needs serious counselling.You both should identify what's best for you.Sex is a mutual affair,not one-sided.One question"do you know what turns on your husband most?if yes,repeat it quite often.he will surely give back a return offer.

intellectpursues
May 27, 2007, 12:16 AM
Ok, my advice as a guy, without hurting a mans ego is to make him want it. When he tries to start the regular boring intercourse with you just be like, "nah, not in the mood tonight". Honestly, that would piss me off, and hurt, but right after that, you have to be like, "well, only if we can try _ this time".. you know whatever you're into. Eventually, if he wants it, he'll try it. Just don't fall into the same position or situation your regular sex becomes. Make the regular stuff seem so boring to you that he gets the freaking hint. He's your partner, so make him understand this is who you are, and repetition to sex is not the key

Matt3046
May 27, 2007, 07:15 AM
To many men do not understand how the female body works. It is not that they are not good lovers they just do not know what to do.

Men don't understand that a good night of sex may begin with him caring out the trash earlier that morning, maybe followed up buy a phone call durning the day telling her how much he loves her, and it would not hurt a thing to take her out to dinner that night. But that is not what a lot of men think, he thinks get in bed naked, that tells her what he wants, roll over on her and tries to slip it in, it won't go so he spits on his hand to lubricate things, then he slips in and after a few pumps he is through. Then he might ask "Was it good for you:?

I agree. Most women appreciate the little things. When a woman feels like she is appreciated and special it is amazing how moved she can become. Try to look at the positive things in your husband. Instread of focusing on the sex, tell him what you do like about him. Maybe he is feeling insecure in your relationship and this is carrying over into your intimate life. Good Luck!

Matt3046
May 27, 2007, 02:10 PM
How does he feel about your sex life?

AAAHHHH, BORAK!! 111

Megg
May 27, 2007, 02:41 PM
My situation is exactly the same as yours... except I am the one who is boring.

MysteryWoman
Jun 2, 2007, 02:13 PM
My husband and I have alot of sex but never make love. My problem is it is boring and predictable. I have tried everything to spice it up. How do I get him to become a better lover? I had a brief affair and the intimacy was THE BEST I have ever experienced. I ended it because I don't want another I want my spouse and I want it to be phenominal at least sometimes. He wonders why I don't want it more often. I have tried to talk to him and I have told him exactly what I want and he continues to do things exactly the same with no effort to change. Please help....any and all advice appreciated.

I have the same problem. My husband is boringly predictable about other things in life, too like food, clothing, vacations, television and other entertainment. He flatly refuses to give oral sex but prefers that I do it for him over genital sex, he acts like he's doing me a favor when he "has to" do the missionary position. Lately, the only way I get sex is if I say something snarky - THEN he responds. It's almost never his idea, I have to 'remind' him. He simply ignores my requests for changes or oral sex, doesn't say no, just ignores me. He behaves as if he loves me in other ways - touches me and kisses me often. But sex seems like an issue for him. In my estimation, he's selfish, because he can't get over himself to even try what I'd like. He prefers rear entry vaginal sex, which to me is rather impersonal, and doesn't provide the stimulation I need. I'm quite tempted to call an old boyfriend and get jiggy with him. It's very sad that someone I love, and who apparently loves me, is such a big zero in the bedroom, and stubborn about it to boot.

Matt3046
Jun 2, 2007, 06:34 PM
wear a costume to bed, get some body paints, and let him know, guide his hands as to what you want.

get some marriage couseling, everyone needs it some, it sounds like you need it more than ever

Wear a costume to marriage counseling and let the therapist apply the body paint. Marriage counseling is only for the select few who still might have a future together. It is basically just a safe atmosphere for someone to play more mind games and use it againgst you later. On second thought, stick with the costume!

lovemyhubby26
Jun 4, 2007, 12:41 AM
Men don't understand that a good night of sex may begin with him caring out the trash earlier that morning, maybe followed up buy a phone call durning the day telling her how much he loves her, and it would not hurt a thing to take her out to dinner that night. But that is not what a lot of men think, he thinks get in bed naked, that tells her what he wants, roll over on her and tries to slip it in, it won't go so he spits on his hand to lubricate things, then he slips in and after a few pumps he is through. Then he might ask "Was it good for you:?

I read this and almost started crying! This is my life, pretty much every time and my husband yells screams, and even punches things because he feels that he is not getting sex enough. I have tried to drill it in to him what I need, but it still stays the same. I feel like I am going crazy. When I try to explain to him in detail, he gets his feelings hurt and ends up PO'd at me. I don't know what to do. The sex is so bad sometimes that I go into the bathroom and cry silently. Sad. Tonight when he asked, "Did that feel good?" I said, "No, it didn't." Then tried again to explain with the same results, him mad and me not sleeping in the room. I don't know what to do. I appreicate all the advice posted here, but it seems like I am going to have a BAD sex life forever at this point. Anyone ever come out of this situation?

kepi
Jun 4, 2007, 01:14 PM
I think sometimes, it is hard for a partner to understand that the other person has feelings and that sex is more than just a physical thing... *sigh*

smoothy
Jun 11, 2007, 09:05 AM
I have the same problem. My husband is boringly predictable about other things in life, too like food, clothing, vacations, television and other entertainment. He flatly refuses to give oral sex but prefers that I do it for him over genital sex, he acts like he's doing me a favor when he "has to" do the missionary position. Lately, the only way I get sex is if I say something snarky - THEN he responds. It's almost never his idea, I have to 'remind' him. He simply ignores my requests for changes or oral sex, doesn't say no, just ignores me. He behaves as if he loves me in other ways - touches me and kisses me often. But sex seems like an issue for him. In my estimation, he's selfish, because he can't get over himself to even try what I'd like. He prefers rear entry vaginal sex, which to me is rather impersonal, and doesn't provide the stimulation I need. I'm quite tempted to call an old boyfriend and get jiggy with him. It's very sad that someone I love, and who apparently loves me, is such a big zero in the bedroom, and stubborn about it to boot.Ouch.. I feel for you. Have you tried to descretely guide him gradually to new and different stuff?

quaint11
Jun 11, 2007, 09:13 AM
Sex is in the mind also so go into his mind.


I believe so few realize this very important point. A satisfying relationship is a partnership of seeking to serve the other ahead of themselves.

Love-making is like music, and two bodies can create the perfect harmony.

SPDRG68
Oct 9, 2007, 03:00 AM
I have been married now for 9.5 years to a wonderful man. He is just absolutely horrid in bed. He's even a terrible kisser! I did not fall in love with him based on phyiscal performance or appearance. We used to have fairly good sex. I figured it was because we were new to each other and it would get better over time. I WAS WRONG. I have communicated my needs, bought a case full of those stupid toys, rented more porn than I have the stomach for (all you really ever need to rent is one.. it's ALL the same)... tried the body paint, blah blah blah. Not one thing seems to get through to him.

The only time he ever touches me is in the middle of the night... AFTER I fall asleep... he wakes me up.. um... "pushing" against me... 5 minutes later... done. He won't talk about the fact that anything even happened the next day.

I was sad for the longest time. I used to cry. Now.. I just sleep on the couch. Unless I have 5 minutes in the middle of the night to spare.

SPDRG68
Oct 9, 2007, 03:16 AM
i have noticed a lot of these threads with near enough the same title..my mans is a rubbish lover,my hubby is rubbish in bed, i have still to notice one that says "our" sexlife is dull.it takes two to tango,why is he the bad lover and not both of you? he may be thinking the exact same of you.
communicate,tell him how important it is and he will get the message, guide him and tell him what you want and how you want it, men are not mind readers and i believe they shouldnt take all the blame for a dull sex life which you are BOTH involved in.

Well, FWYB, I would say OUR sex life... if there was an OUR sex life. It really makes me cringe to read responses like yours that assume that we (women) have NOT already tried the stuff you suggested. I know I have. I have tried to the point that I am now in counselling for trauma I exposed myself to trying to make it "hot" for him. When I tell you that I have tried everything I can think of... trust me, it's the truth.

I have tried "spicing it up" for him... now I have to go see a shrink for the damage it did. I did exactly what he said he needed... to the point of my own destruction. NOW tell me I haven't done enough. When will he ever try as hard? I know now that he will not. I don't think about affairs, or leaving.. I made my vows and I will keep them. I never recall saying through good sex, bad sex and no sex. So, apparently it's not a reason to leave. He is faithful to me. He just can't open up and reach for me as a human being. I can't tell you the fights we have had that started just from me playing with him and trying to entice him. I am tired of fighting. I am tired of crying. The lack of good sex/bad sex isn't nearly as painful as the fighting.

I am happy and thankful that I have wonderful children, a nice home, comfortable life and the THINGS that seem to make some people happy... I just thought I would be sharing it with someone that LOVES/LOVED me.

I posted above.. but after reading that response (and several other VERY similar ones) I had to say more.

Guess I am done now...

Rook
Oct 10, 2007, 10:19 PM
Dear god would all you women please just read the book Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

P4trikk
Oct 10, 2007, 11:20 PM
A few posts here have touched on the subject of communication, and yes when the subject of relationship improvement comes up its inevitable that it will- so often I think that it’s ignored. Please re think this. Although this is hard when the significant other isn’t willing to work on it, it can be done.

I’m in my second marriage with a woman about the same age (mid 30s) we both had terrible childhoods, traumatic teen years and disastrous first marriages. You name it – all the psychobabble and excuses for bad relationships goes here, things society tells you you are, because of _________ (your favorite dysfunction here), Its all bull.

I don’t talk openly about this marriage because most people would think me a liar or that I was doped up on happy valleys newest solution. I went into this relationship with the decision that it was going to work. Communication was harder than ever, especially as a man- we don’t want admit fault, weakness or emotion and we definitely don’t want to be wrong!

But the more I let go the easier it is and the better it gets- I’m out of time and your probably sick of me by now but in short there are very few argument and the sex life is beyond imagination.

I hate to say it because its so cliché but it did start with comunication.

asking
Oct 18, 2007, 08:32 PM
Although [communication] is hard when the significant other isn’t willing to work on it, it can be done.

...[discussion of great second marriage and great sex all due to communication]...

I hate to say it because its so cliché but it did start with comunication.

One important part of the cliché is that it takes two to communicate and if one person doesn't want to, you can't force it. I find it heartbreaking to read about people who have tried so hard to draw their spouses into an intimate relationship and utterly failed because the spouse just locks them out. I wouldn't presume to tell them what to do, because I'm not convinced there's anything they can do. If the guy doesn't want a change in the relationship, whether it involves sex or not, it's not going to happen. It sounds like these guys don't want anything to change. My sympathies. ~asking

Marriedguy
Oct 21, 2007, 09:13 PM
To say that your husband has never made love to you is crazy. When you say never you actually mean he does not make love to me often? Say it isn't so! I'm new school so I don't believe in waiting to have sex until married because this how the above situation happens.

Love making is skill that can be learned. Your husband has to be taught and for someone be taught they have to want to learn. If you husband thinks like most us guys there is not difference between making love and having sex. If he does not want to learn then there is nothing you can do.

Good news is making love = more orgasms. What guy does not want his woman to have more orgasms?

How do you teach him? Easy! Do you kiss? If he you don't find out why. Do you have bad breath or does he have bad breath? Personally, I don't like kissing right after my wife brushes her teeth. I don't like the taste of the tooth paste. I won't allow this to stop the kissing because its about her. You are in control of this session. You want him to move to you neck push his head down he will get the idea. You want his hands in a certain area place his hands there. After a couple of sessions he will love the way he makes you feels and he will start his own sessions.

Ladies keep in mind your husband does not need a lot of foreplay to be aroused... during all the foreplay your husband will probably have an erection. Keeping an erection 30 minutes plus and then intercourse takes stamina. So he make come up short. Another reason why some guys avoid foreplay sessions.

KravJeff
Dec 8, 2007, 09:56 PM
fifty percent of all aspects of love making is ninety percent mental.

Uhhhh... Is that anything like "Ninety percent of the game is half mental."
-Jim Wohford

simoneaugie
Dec 11, 2007, 05:36 AM
I don't think sex is 90% mental for everyone. It's a body response. Of course there are mental elements to it, but why do some guys who have responded here describe physical direction? Maybe, if words aren't working, try another mode of communication.

The "good guys" get off on a woman having multiple, or many orgasms. Some guys have simply given up because of repeated failure. And then, there are some men who don't give a rat's hind end if the woman enjoys it at all. These guys don't have a clue and don't want one. Wouldn't it be convenient if it was tattooed on their foreheads. Hmmm, what would the tattoo say?

I wanted to clarify my own assumptions too, when women say "make love" they are generally referring to warmth, intimacy and an orgasm. When women say "sex is boring" that usually means that they are not having orgasms and feel used. Boring often denotes painful as well. As I've said before, if he can't bring you to orgasm with his pants on, he shouldn't take them off.

4GodSakeNoName
Aug 19, 2009, 11:40 AM
This is an old discussion, but I just found it because I googled "husband terrible in bed." It is a sad discussion, and one that I know well. I do not believe there is any solution. Those women who have not experienced a husband who is a terrible physical lover cannot understand. And most men probably won't understand at all because they want to play "macho" and either pretend that they are WONDERFUL or that it's never the man's fault. As some of the other woman said, I have tried it all. I have been married over three decades. I married right out of college and was basically inexperienced sexually, which was not uncommon in those days and those times. My husband was NOT inexperienced. He "introduced" me to some of what he wanted done via pornography. And, like a good wife, I did my best to comply. Neither of us is ignorant. We both have doctorate degrees. I am quite literate, and so is he. But the man has NEVER found my clitoris in over three decades. Never. Not once. At some point, one simply gives up trying, and I'm years past that point. I'm not unattractive, and never was, but my husband almost never kisses me. By "almost never," I mean, for years and years. Intercourse without any kissing is pretty much the norm, and the irony is that, typical of most women who were virgins until not long before they married, what I had the most "experience" in during my high school and college days of dating was "kissing and making out." It's as if I got married, and all the kissing and caressing and being held ended, almost as soon as the intercourse began.

Now, I am post menopausal, and I deal with a man who pretends not to comprehend what is happening when he enters me when I am not aroused, and I am never aroused when he enters me. Not many woman become aroused simply because the man next to her has an erection and "wants to put it in." He is so ghastly in bed that one side of my brain tells me that it must be intentional cruelty and absolute hate. At the same time, in other situations, he can be extremely kind, and he has been an excellent provider to our children. Am I non-orgasmic? No. I am able to have an orgasm just fine by myself in the shower. An orgasm as a result of his assaults? No. One might describe the sexual encounters more like rapes that I simply do not fight off, but rather accept at a part of my life.

Before readins several of the above comments, I thought I was completely alone. My husband is beyond change, but it is nice to know that I am not alone.