Both my mother and my sister have heptitis C. Now my sister been diaganosed with liver cancer. What suggested treatment for my sister? And sugested prvention for my mother. Thanks in advance for all input.

You certainly could use a little help. Here is some info about a company called Mannatech from Dallas TX. They are a research and development company that is the leader in GlycoNutrient technology. The have found that your body need 8 simple sugars to communicate with. If all of your body cells have the sugars surrounding them then your body cells can communicate and your body does not get sick, get cancer, pain, etc... The sugars used to be in our diet but commercial farming and green harvesting has made the food we eat only contain 2 of the 8 sugars. This leads to miscommunication of the body and sickness. There is only one disease or sickness, cellular miscommunication. Call if you have any questions.

God Bless,

Wayne Meador



How important are these 8 sugars?

The only difference between type A blood & type O blood, is one of these sugars!!
N- Acetyl Galactosamine

They are found in mothers breast milk.

It is how the sperm recognizes the egg!

This technology affects & in some cases REVERSES up to 40 genetic disorders!!
This has never been seen before either!!

Every process that happens in our body, the message goes through these 8 naturally occurring biological sugars!!

We have 600 trillion cells in our body & on the outside of the cells is where
These sugars are!

Prior to the electronic microscope, they thought the body healed itself through the
Amino Acids, which are on the outside of the cell. Well, with the microscope they
Found these 8 sugars are on the outside of the Amino Acids.

In 1996, Harpers Biochemistry Medical Textbook, which is used in over 80 med schools,
Was rewritten to include a chapter on these eight sugars!! Including, Harvard,
Yale, Oxford!

Ambrotose, which has these eight sugars is now being taught in Med schools!!

These sugars are the "Operating System of the Body"!! Just like Microsoft
Runs the computer, regardless of the type of computer!

These sugars is how the body heals itself!!

Within a week of consuming glyconutrients, you have over a trillion healing stem
Cells present in your blood stream!

This has never been seen before, either by natural or drugs!!

Glyconutrients, modulate your immune system, this has never been seen before either!!

Per MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology), Feb. 2003, Glycomics is 1 of 10
Emerging Technologies that WILL change the world!!

Per Gerald Hart, a biochemist from Johns Hopkins University, "This is going
to be the future, we WILL NOT understand immunology, neurology, developmental biology,
or DISEASE, until we UNDERSTAND Glycobiology"!!

This is labeled the "Last Frontier of Medicine", The New Biochemistry.

What are the drug companies doing about this?? They met in 1998 in CANADA, to talk
About these sugars!
Why did they meet in Canada? Because if they met in the US, they would have had to notify others about it.

To date, there are 44 drug companies that have filed over 60000 patents on Glycocompound
Based drugs!!

Would they be doing this if there was nothing to this technology?? NO WAY!!

They are afraid of losing money!!

This is a disruptive technology!!

It is coming from the science field instead of the medical field. They are 2 different
Fields!! There are over 50 papers written a day in the science journals, & some are starting to find there way into the medical journals.

Look @ instant photography? What happened to the Polaroid company when Digital came
In? They went out of business.

What happened to VHS, when DVD came in? It is fading away also.


This is why this is so exciting!! It truly is lifechanging!! Like nothing else
Ever has!

Mannatech owns the patent on this technology!!
They are a Research & Development Company that has a proprietary, consumable,
Scientifically validated product.

They tried to sell it in the Health Food Stores for 2 years, but it did not sell.
People have to be educated about the science & how it works in the body!!

Doctors that are being taught this, the first ones to graduate was in 2002, it is
4-7 years before they are done with their training before they start seeing patients.
So it is out there, it is just a matter of time before others start finding out about it.

In 2-4 years or less, depending on how open minded doctors are, they will start telling their patients about Glyconutrients!!

Per JAMA 6-2002, doctors should be telling their patients to supplement anyway!!
How many of them know this?

It is not what your doctor knows that is going to hurt you, it is what he/she does
Not know!! For there is new technology coming out every day!!

Ask your doctor for cooperation & not permission, for this is only food!!
Send them to Glycoscience.org, there are thousands of journals, papers, etc to validate
This technology.

It is UNETHICAL for a doctor to tell patients NOT to take these supplements, for
It is the latest "Frontier of Medicine"!


Mannatech has more 3rd PARTY VALIDATION behind this technology than all the other
Nutritional companies combined together!! They own the patent for this exciting
Field!!

You can not get better validation than 3rd PARTY!!

Thanks & God Bless, Wayne Meador

765-491-3101 (Cell)
[email protected]
http://www.glyco-healing.com
http://www.glycoinformation.info


There are thousands of doctors that are using this & seeing tremendous results!!

Remember, it is not about the products, it is what the body can do when it has the
Proper nutrients!!

Go look under the Thread "Conditions and Diseases" for reports on Hepatitis C and the benefits observed from Original Limu, a major new natural supplement from the sea with probably the greatest immune boosting glyconutrient ever discovered, fucoidan. What I heard from a physician representing Mannatech, if the body gets back in gear with the right nutrition as with Original Limu, it can produce itself the whole range of miracles sugars in Ambrotose.

Last year there were just barely 500 studies dating back to the mid-1970's for fucoidan in the database for the National Library of Medicine at Entrez PubMed (http://www.pubmed.gov). This year there are over 600 studies and rapidly growing. Enter the word with fucoidan and immune or fucoidan with cancer or tumor or tumors etc. The studies support the book by Rita Elkins on Limu Moui, the seaweed from which the proprietary extract is derived as a result of 15 years of research and development. Rita Elkins notes its anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer and anti-tumor properties. It is generally an incredible immune booster.

I have talked to personally people with breast, prostate, lung and liver cancer who report that their tumors shrunk up and disappeared along with their cancer as documented by their physicians by consuming this extraordinary supplement.

The way it works is by helping the body heal itself which is what medicine is suppose to be about itself as Hippocrates, father of modern day medicine, encouraged, "Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food." If we feed our bodies that for which it was designed, it can heal itself. Just look at your finger heal itself without seeing a doctor or getting any medicine. With Original Limu, my finger heals itself in half to a third the time before my days of Original Limu.

There are an increasing number of other companies claiming seaweed and limu moui seaweed, but none of them have the highly developed extract for providing the optimum nutritive value with the highest bioavailability.

Oncologists are physicians who study, diagnose, and treat cancerous tumors. They practice in hospitals and medical centers, university hospitals, and research organizations. This is who you should be asking these questions!

HANK :eek:

I agree with Hank. One should definitely consult doctors regarding health matters. I am only a Ph.D. organic chemist with no training as a doctor and I cannot prescribe, treat, cure, or diagnose anything.

Following is a link which will give you all the details about hepatitis:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3180.htm

Cheers

OK, Neither am I a Dr. so I can't make claims, treat, cure, heal, or mitigate any disease either. I just want to clear a few things up.

I fully agree with Thorp, he hit the nail on the head with everything! I just need to explain more to everyone. As I wrote earlier, there are eight specific sugars (saccarides) that your body needs in order to function (See List below). Harper’s Biochemistry (the leading textbook for medical schools acrost the USA) Chapter 56 says. . . “Out of the 209 monosaccharides that are found in nature, only eight are specifically used for the transfer of biological information.” If we are not getting these in out diets, we MUST supliment them or our body will get tired of converting Glucose into all the other seven sugars.

This is important, If you are not getting these sugars in your diet then mour bodies back-up sustem makes the others. Your body was not made to produce these sugars for long term, just for a short period!

Remember fucoidan? That is one of the sugars! But that is not where it stops. There are seven more just like that (see the list below). Isn't it great that we now know we can help our bodies in this way? Referance, http://www.glycoscience.org for over 8,000 papers, lab studies, clinical studies, clinical trials, animal observational reports, etc. Many of these articles referance http://www.pubmed.gov as Thorp suggested. The study of Glycomics is the fastest growing and most studied science in the world today! There are over 50 - 75 papers written and published per day around the world. You can go to http://www.glycostory.com for audio stories from hundreds of people whose lives have ben changed through this wonderful discovery. Our bodies need these eight sugars!!

I tell people "Don't trust me, do your own research," then if you have any questions don't hesitate to call or email and I can direct you even more.


Functions Of The Eight Essential Monosaccharides

In addition to improving cell-to-cell communication, research shows that these sugars work in the body in the following ways:

MANNOSE
Prevents bacterial, viral, parasitic and fungal infections
Eases inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis
Lupus patients are deficient in this saccharide
Lowers blood sugar and triglyceride levels In diabetic patients

FUCOSE
Influences brain development
Improves brain’s ability to create long-term memories
Inhibits tumor growth
Metabolism of this saccharide is abnormal in cystic fibrosis, diabetes, and cancer and during episodes of shingles, which is caused by the herpes virus
Active against other herpes viruses, including herpes I and cytomegalovirus
Guards against respiratory infections
Inhibits allergic reactions

GALACTOSE
Enhances wound healing
Increases calcium absorption
Triggers long-term memory formation

GLUCOSE
Potent fast-energy source
Enhances memory
Stimulates calcium absorption
Too much or too little can be problematic
Elderly Alzheimer’s patients register much lower levels of this saccharide than those with organic brain disease from stroke or other vascular diseases
Glucose metabolism disturbed in depression, manic-depression, anorexia and bulimia

N-ACETYLGALACTOSAMINE
Heart disease patients have lower-than-normal levels of this saccharide
Inhibits spread of tumor

N-ACETYLGLUCOSAMINE
Immune modulator with antitumor properties and activity against HIV
Vital to learning
Glucosamine, a metabolic product of this saccharide
Helps repair cartilage
Decreases pain and inflammation
Increases range of motion
May also help repair mucosal-lining defensive barrier implicated in Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis and interstitial cystitis

N-ACETYLNEUROMINIC ACID
Important for brain development and learning
Abundant in breast milk
Repels bacteria, virus and other pathogens

XYLOSE
Antibacterial and antifungal
May help prevent cancer of the digestive tract

There is only one legal company that sells all eight sugars in one product. The company is Mannatech Inc, a research and development company from Copel, TX. Their main focus in on Cellular communication through Glycobioliogy, and AntiOxident stabilization. More info on my website.

Thanks for reading, God Bless.

Wayne Meador
765-491-3101 (Cell)
[email protected]
http://www.glycoinformation.com
http://www.glyco-healing.com (My Site)

Lifesaver247 and I, Thorp, both have a heart for helping to heal our very sick country and the world. Look to the right or the left and you see someone with a chronic disease and probably including yourself! The difference between Lifesaver247 and me is I represent a whole, natural product from the sea whereas Lifesaver247 relies on a product devised by man with only a narrow focus on one category of nutrients, glyconutrients or miracle sugars.




I have begun analyzing the merit of products like Ambrotose. I ran across recently an infomercial that promotes a new marine-based product, Sea Vegg. I’ve experienced myself USANA supplements and Barley Green or Barley Life. There are many more including Noni, Mangosteen, etc. And, many more are coming on the scene daily.

So how do you pick what is going to help you? How do you sort out the authentic from the hype? They all say that they will do wonders replete with personal testimonies. What do we do, toss a coin? Should we be taking more than one of these products?

At this point, I have drawn some preliminary conclusions:
1. A lot of these products do have something to offer
2. Certainly, some of the testimonies are biased and placebo effect in nature
3. There may truly be some science or reason supporting these products
4. A lot are being produced and distributed by opportunists with half truths
5. A lot may be look-alike products of far inferior quality and value
6. Some piggyback on a good idea drawing people with extra ingredients
7. Many have only a narrow focus and are not complete in themselves
8. Some may be fairly complete in themselves but missing something vital
9. Some rely on the premise that science trumps natural
10. Some may be haphazardly thrown together to the point of bearing unwholesome components


I see Noni, Mangosteen, and the barley grass extraction products fitting category #8 (only seaweeds have fucoidan), Sea Vegg filling the bill for category #5 and #4, USANA fitting into category #9 and Ambrotose into category #7. The problem with us trying to decide what to get is our getting reeled in with a narrow focus. With Ambrotose, we are taught this and that about how important the miracle sugars are. Well, I am sure that Ambrotose fills the bill in categories #1 and #3. But, one must not forget that this hot item is not all the body needs. Also, one needs to be aware that the body produces these miracle sugars on its own when in a healthy state.

The product warranting solid consideration should have the following characteristics:
1. Something, of course, to offer
2. Strong science and research supporting it
3. Top quality and quality controls
4. Complete in itself as much as possible
5. Responsible and solid business program
6. No signs of deception and hype

Recently I attended a workshop where a woman had neck cancer and she was going to need to have her chin, shoulder, and never be abkle to swallow,talk, or hold her baby again. She said that her and her husband had both looked at the medical and alternative solutions and what she found during that search was Dr. Moss and the Moss Report. Now this Dr. happen to be the keynote speaker at this workshop whom she had never met and she was now cancer free for (6) years. I certainly suggest you get this report and see if it helps you. The other thing that I have been using is Dr. Hilda Clark who has a book out that is called "Healing all cancers". We have found that her methods are extroidinary. I highly recommend that you go to her site and see what of it you can try. She says that there is no cancer that she can not cure. My grandmother says that many of her receipes and herbs were used by the old ones and they are effective. There is also a treatment called Quatum Nuwati Healing that is most effective as well and you can contact the Center For Human Development for more information. www.cfhd.org I hope this helps.

both my mother and my sister have heptitis C. Now my sister been diaganosed with liver cancer. What suggested treatment for my sister? And sugested prvention for my mother. Thanks in advance for all input.
Once hepatitis C develops into liver cancer the prognosis, I'm sure your sister's doctor has already made suggestions about chemo-therapy. If she just has the cancer in one or 2 lobes surgery might be indicated, a person can survive with half their liver, but it has to be in good shape, no disease present. A liver donation is a possibility, some family members may be compatible and would consider giving a portion of their healthy liver.
As for your mom, just pray she does not get the cancer, following her doctor's diet and medication regiment is very important. She also could be helped with a liver transplant. I'm sorry I could not give you better news, and possibly I have not helped you at all, but you and your family will be in my prayers. Wanda (I am a nurse, retired)

Below is a link , read the article it will give you all of your answers

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic993.htm

Cheers

Hi,
Your best source of information is your doctor. If he/she has suggested Chemo, then talk with the Chemo doctor.
There are also support groups to talk with, and just talking with other patients in the Chemo office helps a lot.
The most powerful force in the World is prayer.
Pray and talk with others about adding to prayer lists.
I have been through this with my wife, who is now Cancer Free, after a yr, and the doctors' say with her type, it's a good bet it will not recurr.
I wish you the best, and talk with others, in person. There is absolutely nothing like taking with people in person, not on a computer.
fredg

Have you read the benefits of fucoidan (seaweed) have on cancer cells? There are over 600 scientific studies supporting fucoidan. All of which can be found at www.pubmed.org. Just search fucoidan and see for yourself. I started taking a product that helped me out tremendously w/ my acid reflux and pain then my dearest friend was diagnosed w/ liver cancer. So I started researching and realized the product I was taking had the most fucoidan in it of any other product out there. I bought my friend two bottles and just mailed it to him this week. He started taking the product last night. I’m excited to see what happens w/ him. He just had his kidney removed at the beginning of Jan. He goes back to the Doctor at the end of the month in Ann Arbor to get checked out. Let’s keep our fingers crossed for him.

Here is some more stuff I found out about fucoidan/ limu moui:

Excerpts From Limu Moui
By Rita Elkins M.H.
http://woodlandpublishing.com/showbook.cfm?booknum=96
The unusually low death rate and high incidence of healthy centenarians in Tonga have prompted curious observers to ask, why? If you were to query Tongans for possible answers, they would probably refer you to a nondescript sea plant they have harvested and consumed for over 3,000 years. Limu moui, a marine vegetable native to their coastal regions, is believed to Tongans to be a source of longevity, health and vigor.
Recent scientific research on limu moui has revealed that the people of Tonga have excellent reasons to boast about their brown sea plant. As a natural restorative and rejuvenator, it packs a powerful punch. In fact, it contains a fascinating biochemical called fucoidan, which has been compared to human breast milk for its impressive nutrient array. Fucoidan has been the subject of over 600 scientific studies and it is what makes limu moui so unique.
If you are interested please visit

www.briancook.limupro.com
www.yourguide2.originallimu.com
or you can call me
901-508-1941

There is a difference between cancer TREATMENT and cancer PREVENTION. Many cancers (skin, lung, colon, etc) are easy to prevent. They can be extremely difficult to TREAT, however. For those posting glorious reviews of fucoidan, mannatech, etc... do you have ANY research that these agents are successful in TREATING cancer? I know some have made statements like "over 600 studies supporting." But this probably really means that 600 studies even mentioning the keyword searched for was found. I'm looking for hard data. People with X cancer treated with X agent lived X amount of time compared to people who got conventional or no treatment.

Look forward to any responses.

I found this on pubmed.org by searching fucoidan/cancer

Nutr Cancer. 2005;52(2):189-201. Related Articles, Links


Fucoidan extracted from Cladosiphon okamuranus Tokida induces apoptosis of human T-cell leukemia virus type 1-infected T-cell lines and primary adult T-cell leukemia cells.

Haneji K, Matsuda T, Tomita M, Kawakami H, Ohshiro K, Uchihara JN, Masuda M, Takasu N, Tanaka Y, Ohta T, Mori N.

Division of Molecular Virology and Oncology, Graduate School of Medicine, University of the Ryukyus, Nishihara, Okinawa, Japan.

Adult T-cell leukemia (ATL) is caused by human T-cell leukemia virus type 1 (HTLV-1) and remains incurable. The highest endemic area of HTLV-1 carriers in Japan is located in Okinawa, and novel treatments are urgently needed in this area. We extracted fucoidan, a sulfated polysaccharide, from the brown seaweed Cladosiphon okamuranus Tokida cultivated in Okinawa, Japan and examined its tumor-suppression activity against ATL. Fucoidan significantly inhibited the growth of peripheral blood mononuclear cells of ATL patients and HTLV-1-infected T-cell lines but not that of normal peripheral blood mononuclear cells. Fucoidan induced apoptosis of HTLV-1-infected T-cell lines mediated through downregulation of cellular inhibitor of apoptosis protein-2 and survivin and G1 phase accumulation through the downregulation of cyclin D2, c-myc, and hyperphosphorylated form of the retinoblastoma tumor suppressor protein. Further analysis showed that fucoidan inactivated NF-kappaB and activator protein-1 and inhibited NF-kappaB-inducible chemokine, C-C chemokine ligand 5 (regulated on activation, normal T expressed and secreted) production, and homotypic cell-cell adhesion of HTLV-1-infected T-cell lines. In vivo use of fucoidan resulted in partial inhibition of growth of tumors of an HTLV-1-infected T-cell line transplanted subcutaneously in severe combined immune deficient mice. Our results indicate that fucoidan is a potentially useful therapeutic agent for patients with ATL.


I guess I really don't understand what you are looking for.

It is great to have Brian find specific confirmation to that which I posted earlier. The nice thing about www.pubmed.gov, the website with database for the National Library of Medicine is that we can all go in without cost and check this amazing fucoidan component available exclusively to any significant extent and bioavailability in Original Limu.

I am a Ph.D. organic chemist and technical database searcher by profession and have a few tricks up my sleeve to increase the number of fucoidan-based studies available for viewing from around 600 to well over 10,000. I would be happy to be of assistance to anyone wanting to pursue any particular issue of concern at [email protected]. As noted in earlier postings as well, I have conducted a thorough study of other supplements and nutritional beverages and can explain why Original Limu is the ultimate supplement, standing alone to become eventually a household word, "Pass the Limu." Furthermore, there are more and more look-alike products with far, far inferior quality and bioavailability that I could explain as well. Also, consider the websites www.limunight.originallimu.com and www.healthy.limupro.com. There are a number of other discussions on the web I could point people to that would help them better be able to understand why Original Limu is probably the best immune boosting nutritional component ever discovered.

God bless,

Thorp
979-297-1919
www.limunight.originallimu.com
www.healthy.limupro.com

I did a pubmed search for fucoidan. There are 642 results. Of the first 20 results, I learned that fucoidan has been studied in the mollusc, seaweed, algae, certain parasites, etc. A pubmed search using the MeSH database for 'neoplasms' and 'fucoidan' resulted only 29 results. Of these 29 results, none involve human clinical trials that demonstrate safety nor efficacy of fucoidan or fucoidan-based therapies. If there are any human studies that demonstrate that fucoidan or any fucoidan-containing products have any effect on cancer PREVENTION or TREATMENT, I'd be happy to read them. Pubmed has apparently not heard of them. Let me know...

Again, I have ways of expanding the search for fucoidan material to over 10,000 references that would open up a lot of studies unavailable simply by searching the word fucoidan on the database of the National Library of Medicine at www.pubmed.gov. I helped a Houston physician last week on this issue and a particular aspect of the efficacy of Original Limu. It is indeed the pubmed website that physicians consider when they want to learn what's out there and what's new in medical science.

As for your question, for now until you consult me personally, stick with fucoidan in your search and simply add words like cancer, carcinogen, tumor and you will be able to see a whole assortment of studies related to the value of fucoidan in regards to cancer. An asterisk added allows you to pick up different variations of the word like cancerous, carcinogenicity, tumorous, etc. You can add a third word like liver, heart, lung, pancreas, etc. to narrow the results to cancer of a particular organ. Of course, my experience in finding additional terms like hepatic, cardiovascular, pulmonary, and pancreatic would help capture results otherwise missed. The results you get with these simple tips will give you only a small sampling of the studies that would be of interest to you. Again, I am a professional technical database searcher with a PhD degree in chemistry and can be of significant value to anyone in need in performing a comprehensive search of this database. Happy searching!


Blessings,

Thorp
979-297-1919
[email protected]
www.limunight.originallimu.com
www.healthy.limupro.com

Once again, I asked if there are ANY human clinical trials that demonstrate safety or efficacy of fucoidan-containing products for any cancer. I am not interested in how many possible hits you can get on pubmed. I am only interested in RELEVANT search matches.
I have a hard time believing you are familiar with pubmed. The simplest way to find relevant search matches is to use MeSH database terms. I did this using fucoidan and neoplasm. It doesn't matter what kind of cancer or what term (cancer, neoplasm, etc) is used to describe cancer... any such study will be a hit by using the MeSH term 'neoplasm.'
All I'm asking is for a single human study that evaluated fucoidan for any kind of cancer. I don't know why you find it so difficult to give it to me if it indeed exists.

Here is more info on Fucoidan------
http://www.glycoscience.org/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=D014

Case Studies/Trials------
Entrez PubMed
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8572581&dopt=Abstract)
Entrez PubMed
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12865973&dopt=Abstract)

Hi, I was curious to know if this particular group affilliated with Coastal Vacations is a scam or is this a authentic company?

Here are some links to statements from prior members who clain it is a ripoff or scam. I am not saying it is or is not, but there were a lot of compalints I found doing a web search

http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=Coastal+Vacations+

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157


There was some info that linked them to these names: Success Synergy Systems, Nick Thomas, Prosperity Automated System
All of them appeared to have been sued in federal court, I can not say they are one in the same, this is only info from the internet I found doing searches for the company you listed.

I will say this they are selling a multilevel marketing sales position. And your job is to selll vacation packages to others, So if you like to sell, and like to promote ohters to sell. ( since that is where the money is, having others sell for you)

Any of the mutli level can work, ( nothing wrong with Amway, one of the older)

But if you are good at sales, you may do as well if you got into sales for some non mulitlevel company.

In all of these things, they are not going to do all the work for you, if they could, they would not need you. You are going to have to do the selling of these, vacations

Does anyone know anything about the Coastal Synergy Group? Is it legit or not?:rolleyes:

There is a lot of negative things posted about them on the web.

This has been addressed on a previous link here on askmehelpdesk

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/internet-marketing/coastal-synergy-group-40808.html?highlight=Coastal+Synergy+Group

Also, the BBB has some info. They're rated a B... and you can see some of the complaints against them:
http://www.santabarbara.bbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=920016 59

Is Coastal Synergy Group a valid business or a scam.

See this one (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-based-business/coastal-synergy-group-44210-post209499.html).

I did Google them and found lots of hits... and at a glance down the first couple pages, I did not see any bad stuff jumping out at me:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Coastal+Synergy+Group%22&btnG=Google+Search

Is this group a scam or a solid company that can be trusted?
Di

You can do a search on this site for their name, there is a lot of negative information about them on the internet and a bad Better Business Bureau listing on them

I have no perosnal first hand info on them

I hope I am not too late and that you haven't signed up yet.
The idea of CSG is great but their product is NOT!
First off, all of their money exchanges is done by certified checks or money orders. So, if ever you are not happy, you won't be able to get your money back.
I didn't realize how lousy their travel package was until I started to use it for my own travel needs. It was one disappointment after another. Right now my package is sitting in the garage gathering dust while I am dealing with a travel agent to arrange a trip to Hawaii. Don't be fooled by their flashy ads, webcasts, etc.

The Coastal Synergy Group is not a Company, but Rather a group of Private Business owners within Coastal Vacations, governed by a board of directors. The CSG prides itself in training, and supporting each of it's individual Members into becoming successful Coastal Directors. Focusing on the essentials, of professionalism, and personal growth.
The CSG is a rapidly growing association of entrepreneurs, dedicated to providing a level of training, and support, that is unrivaled in the industry.
Featuring over 30 Live training and support calls, each week. A library of an ever expanding wealth of recorded calls and documentation to help each individual to build their own business.
At least 7 live training Events annually held in different locations around US and Canada.

The Coastal Synergy group, not a job... it is a business opportunity that enables, the average person to earn an above average income from the comfort of home, or anwhere else in the world, where there is an internet connection and a phone.

In business for yourself, but never by yourself.

Jandsfisher.csglifestyles.com

Find out for yourself.

It is a valid business opportunity. It is not MLM, but it is a 2 up.
Each associate is required to make 2 training sales, with the help of their director, who mentors and teaches them to become a successful Coastal Director, and in compensation for the much appreciated time and effort, that director retains those first two sales. Upon completion of that second sale, the associate is then given a Director's release.
That release means that the new director is forever qualified to profit from $1000 and up to $9,705 on every transaction.
Take the information tour... judge for yourself

Jandsfisher.winningwithcoastal.com

View the Presentation
Read the Coastal Profile

I guess I goggle different than Rick does, but I can find pages and pages of info about them, and people who call them scams. Here is a couple

http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=Coastal+Vacations+

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157)

When you wish to find the negative about a company in a search put the company name and another word, sich as ripoff, cheat, illegal and you will find the negative things.

This does not mean they are good or bad, only that there has been many complaints

Those Call centers are for people that don't want any control over their own business. The people that use them are in business for themselves, and by themselves, and letting somebody else run their business. And they are not apart of the CSG

Does anyone know anything about the Coastal Synergy Group? Is it legit or not?:rolleyes:
Yes the Coastal Synergy Group is Legit, and is the most lucritive business in the entire world, when comparing investment vs. capital gains.
There is a marketing system in place that does about 90% of the work, and a training, and support system that is second to none. Everything has been laid out in place, for each of it's members, to be able to succeed.
The wholesale travel package is awesome. Did you know that one of the cards allows you to become an independent travel agent? And that you can receive commissions on the vacations that you book for yourself, family, and friends?
The CSG is running two product knowledge calls per week, and will be premiering an online global theater presetation, just for the packages.
So Latonact.. your not telling the price of those money orders... a whopping $6.95 to activate a complementory vacation, or that they are life time memberships... According to you .you are a coastal member, but are you a Director?

Coastal Synergy Group is Legit, and is the most lucritive business in the entire world, when comparing investment vs. capital gains.


Can you direct consumers to where they can find/verify this information?

smfishe,

You appear to be here for one single purpose:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/search.php?searchid=971837

I have long thought that the question asker and the person who answers these are working together for ad purpose, except they don't expect all the true negative things to be posted.

About two or three times a year we get a brand new member ask a very similar question, then in about one or two days a brand new member answers the question telling how great it is, but not giving any links or web sites ( and there are good sites, I only showed the bad, since it makes a person doubt about these) but there are company web sites from this company that makes them look great.

About 6 months ago I even got a few personal emails basically threatening me for my posts on here from a email address that would not accept any return mail.

So yes NeedKarma your opinion is also mine, but if this person is an employee or member of the group and they like it or believe in it, they have a right to post it here.

But I am amazed that the several times this company shows up, it is always from a new member and the positive answers is also always from a new member who joins only to say good things about this company.

It it looks like a fish, smells like a fish and swims like a fish, most likely it is not a cow

Like with other complaints about companies on this site, people from the companies take note since this site has such awesome search engine recognition.

If you Google this company in quotes you get 793 hits. This thread is #11.
"Coastal Synergy Group" - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Coastal+Synergy+Group%22&btnG=Google+Search)

... and I predict it will move up the list.

Isn't great to be so famous,

I was just answering the question:

Does anyone know anything about the Coastal Synergy Group? Is it legit or not?
Am I a member? Yes!
Did I ask that same question while gather information on the CSG, before joining? Yes!

There are 2 clubs out there. 1 is the "Too good to be true" Club, and the other is the "Too good to pass up" Club.

When you are gathering your information about the CSG, you will find much more positive than negative.

Just remember that it is a business opportuinty, and not a job.
Compare it to investing in a MacDonalds franchise.
Compare it to purchsing a snack vending wagon/cart.

Find a copy of HBC Magazine, and you will find a Coastal Director, featured... and you can go back to any issue from the past 2 1/2 years.

Maybe you could help folks out by supplying where you found the great information about them... including the investment and capital gains numbers that you said are good.

(I know nothing about this company. I do not claim them to be good or bad... I am just inputting what I would if this were about any company)

Here is the number of one of our recorded Live calls from last year: 212-461-2512 There are 7 of these live calls per week, hosted by a different director. There used to be 10, but 3 have been replaced by a Live Global online theater presentation. An Audio/Visual presentation with interaction, and chat capabilities.
Here is a link to an Article from the Sept, 2006 issue of HBC Magazine.

HBC: Volume 10/Issue 9 (http://hbc.idigitaledition.com/issue.php?issue=9) page 20

If you change the last number, from 9 to a different number, once you have viewed the article it will bring up a different issue, and you will have to search for Each issue's article on a different coastal Director.

I am sorry smfishe, but company generated material is not what they asked for the magazine is merely company supplied material not facts or news. It is merely a sales adds in a magazine format for businesses wanting to sell their products.

Your answers are making the product look worst more than helping, Perhaps some independent news articles about the company,

The Coastal Synergy group is not a company. The Coastal Synergy Group is Collection of people. Private business owners.
A few of the CSG members will be attending a regional event in Nashville, TN 2/3/2007 at the Hotel Preston. I encourage you to attend, and speak directly to some of the other members. Alert the press if you so desire.

1. So when there is no company there is no recourse for the "business owner" that has any issues.
2. Self-produced marketing materials used as 'proof' that the business is sound should be a big red flag to any potential investor.
3. Any business that mentions its many 'levels' is another red flag that should be heeded.
4. Any web based company that feels the need to register a great deal of domains in order to be found on the web is another red flag.
5. Here is some reading with messages from real people not marketing types:
Anyone who wants the Hard Cold Facts about Coastal (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=14973)
Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157)

So there is no company, so who provides all the material and you compared it to opening a McDondald, you have to buy it and pay fees to a Company, they control what the people who buy it does and how they operate. So if there is no master control company anyone claiming to do it, can just be a member, there is on company that owns the right to the name, no copyright on their material??

You are just digging yourself in deeper and deeper, obviously you are just reading a script that someone ( that is not a company) provides,
If I had any doubt about them, you have most certainly confirmed the red flag.

All we do is direct people to the information, and answer any and all of their questions so that our prospective clients know exactly who they are paying, what the money is going for, everything it entails, and then the decision is up to them. So it is not like you are going in with blinders on. Iam assuming that your red flag means get all of the facts... so what is stopping you?

Since you won't visit the websites that the information is located, and you won't go directly to the communication sources, then you can not make an informed decision one way or the other.

I can say that CSG has people from all walks of life, which include:
Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses, Accountants, Business researchers, stay at home Moms, and dads, teachers, car dealers, real estate agents, Stock Brokers, Bankers, Pastors, and many more... and we have a very high standard of integity. We are in over 100 countries

I would like to know a little more about Coastal Synergy Group also, it almost sounds too good to be true. Does anyone know about this business?
:(

HI Christiekohn,
Tomarrow morning, Saturday, Jan, 20, 2007 at 11am EST there is a LIVE Global Online Theater Presentation. You will want to enter the theater between 10:35am - 10:45am EST, to be able to text chat with some of the members, as well as the Hosts. At 11:05 am EST the doors for the presentation will close. After the Presentation, The text chat will open up again for a half hour before our second show just for our travel packages starts, at 12:30 pm EST.
The Product presentation goes into full detail, on the different travel packages, and memberships.
These two shows should give you enough information, however I don't know how much information you have seen yet.

If you call my toll free number, and I will make sure that you can get a ticket to the presentation. 1-888-292-0967 press 3 to speak directly with me, and I will direct you to the proper website... if I am unavailable, just leave a message with your email address included, and I will send you an invitation to access your ticket.

I am not here to sell you anything, just provide you with some information, that you are requesting.

Run Christiekohn run, remember when it sounds to good to be true, it really is.

Just do simple web search under this company name and fraud, This will give you another side of the story.

For those of you who think that if it sounds too good to be true... usually tried something where you didn't receive the proper training, one on one mentoring, or the support to succeed. The Coastal Synergy Group has all of those things in place, and they are proven time and time again. Show me somebody who speaks bad about the CSG, and I will show you somebody, who didn't plug into and follow the instructions of their director, and tried to re-invent the wheel so to speak. Got frustrated and quit. They are however life time members, and can always restart.

If you really want to find out, go through all of the information presented to you, and get every single one of your questions or concerns answered, to see if Coastal is the right opportunity, for you... if it is? Great! If it isn't? At least you know, and were able to make an informed and educated decision. But after being in other home based businesses, I have never encountered a more positive group of people in my 50 years. The CSG is a life changing event, and it is all about people helping people to achieve their dreams.

But it is up to you to decide. Get all of the facts about Coastal Club Vacations, and the CSG. Where do yo see yourself next year?

If you call the Better Business Bureau, just remember it is up to each individual member to either join or not join. If your director ( the person who contacted you) is listed with the BBB, all they will tell you is whether they have had any complaints in the last 36 months.

Has anyone heard of Costal Syenrgy Group? Or have had any experience with them?
Any feedback will be appreciated.

There a whole bunch of threads about them.

Have a look HERE (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-based-business/coastal-synergy-group-44210.html?highlight=coastal)

Does anyone know anything about the Coastal Synergy Group? Is it legit or not?:rolleyes:
Hey there,

I'm not a Coastal Vacation member, but my girl friend decided to join it through Coastal Synergy Vacations.

I have only positive things to say. The company CSG is legit. There is an incredible amount of support. I don't know where else a bunch of people work together to help you and others get sales.

I've read a lot of negative stuff posted in here, and none of them had to do with CSG itself. There are a lot of people who started their own group under the disguise of Coastal Vacations who are frauds. Coastal Vacations actually warns this on their websites.

But I totally recommend if your interested in a home based business, and you are speaking with a CSG director, go for it. My girlfriend made 5 sales in 1 week and she just started.

Coastal Synergy Group does not apper in that link.



Also, the BBB has some info. they're rated a B...and you can see some of the complaints against them:
Company Report (http://www.santabarbara.bbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=920016 59)


Does anyone know anything about the Coastal Synergy Group? Is it legit or not?:rolleyes:
From my experience watching my girlfriend work her Coastal Synergy Group business (not to be confused with any other group claiming to be with Coastal Vacations) it is completely legit.

They have live QA calls and Live online presentations.

You can hear and meet real life people working their CSG business and hear about their experiences and successes.

People really are making money, and a lot of it. My girlfriend in one week made 5 sales and she just started.

Hi,

Those two links have nothing to do with Coastal Synergy Group.

One of them is a scam group called CMG. I understand this can be easily confused with CSG, but they are not connected.

The other link also has no reference to Coastal Synergy Group. Btw, individual associates of CSG are registered with the BB and only have good comments.

I am not a CSG member, so I have no personal interest other than my girlfriend is a member and I have been watching her.

From my experience watching her, CSG offers an incredible amount of support, and is completely legit. You can hear real testomonies from people everyday.


Here are some links to statements from prior members who clain it is a ripoff or scam. I am not saying it is or is not, but there were alot of compalints I found doing a web search

http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=Coastal+Vacations+

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157)


There was some info that linked them to these names: Success Synergy Systems, Nick Thomas, Prosperity Automated System
All of them appeared to have been sued in federal court, I can not say they are one in the same, this is only info from the internet I found doing searches for the company you listed.

I will say this they are selling a multilevel marketing sales position. and your job is to selll vacation packages to others, So if you like to sell, and like to promote ohters to sell. ( since that is where the money is, having others sell for you)

Any of the mutli level can work, ( nothing wrong with Amway, one of the older)

But if you are good at sales, you may do as well if you got into sales for some non mulitlevel company.

In all of these things, they are not going to do all the work for you, if they could, they would not need you. You are going to have to do the selling of these, vacations

Those links have nothing to do with Coastal Synergy Group.

There are fraud websites claiming to be affiliated with Coastal Vacations. Even Coastal Vacations direct websites warn of them.

But the Coastal Vacations BOD recognizes and accepts Coastal Synergy Group.

The company is legit.


I guess I goggle different than Rick does, but I can find pages and pages of info about them, and people who call them scams. here is a couple

http://www.ripoffreport.com/results.asp?q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21&q5=Coastal+Vacations+

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157)

when you wish to find the negitive about a company in a search put the company name and another word, sich as ripoff, cheat, illegal and you will find the negitive things.

This does not mean they are good or bad, only that there has been many complaints

You can hear real testomonies from people everyday.Where?

With so many fraudulent companies imitating the original perhaps David would be better off chekcing out other companies. The potential consumers of Coastal will eventually get confused.

Again, the Coastal Synergy Group ( CSG ) is not a company, but rather a group of private business owners within Coastal Vacations, that prides itself on mentoring, coaching, supporting, and guiding each other to succeed. It is not multi level marketing. It is direct sales. There is a requirement of 2 training sales, but after achieving those two sales, you are forever a Coastal Director in business for yourself, but never by yourself.
Read about some of our directors, from monthly issues of Home Business Connection magazine, and listen to some of the Audio testimonies of real people.
Jandsfisher.csglifestyles.com
And then judge for yourself.

For the live global presentation, you can register at my gfs site at

CSGGlobalOnline.com (http://rosa.csgglobalonline.com/)

For the live QA calls, they have them everyday.

712-338-8108 pin 1133#


Monday : 2pm EST and 8pm EST
Tuesday: 2pm EST
(Global Theater: 8pm EST, please contact me for details)
Wednesday: 2pm EST and 8pm EST
Thursday: 2pm EST
(Global Theater: 8pm EST, please contact me for details)
Friday: 11am EST
Saturday: 11am EST


Where?

My girlfriend had a prospect who was interested in joining CSG.

Instead of joining CSG, she had found another company claiming to be with coastal vacation that claim they will give you the directors release right off the bat.

She paid them the $300 or something for the directors release. She never heard back.

There are frauds. But I know CSG is valid. That's all I can say.


With so many fraudulent companies imitating the original perhaps David would be better off chekcing out other companies. The potential consumers of Coastal will eventually get confused.

Due diligence:
Both Parinda and smfish have registered in the last 2 days and have only posted in threads to boost the view of this company. This is quite typical.

My girlfriend has had some people tell her they heard or read bad things about the company.
I was very surprised because I know my girlfriend spent a month doing her due diligence and looking the company up. She would ask them what did they hear, because she was interested, and instead of answering they would hang up.

So I decided to do my own research to see what is bad.
I found this website and found these false comments that had nothing to do with CSG.

That is why I made my comments.

So what if I just joined? What is wrong with that?

I am not trying to boost the view of the company.

I would like however, for all the negative things to be legit.
If this company is a fraud, or a scam then it should be known.

But there has been nothing bad about the company as I have experienced it by watching my girlfriend. Nor has there been anything authentic or accurate negative about it posted here.

Instead, when someone would ask about Coastal Synergy Group, Fr_Chuck would post links regarding real fraud companies.

Now I am understanding why people think CSG is bad. People like you keep giving it a bad rep when it had nothing to do with the complaints people made.


Due diligence:
Both Parinda and smfish have registered in the last 2 days and have only posted in threads to boost the view of this company. This is quite typical.

For some people it is easier to stand back, and point fingers, from the outside, instead of accepting an invitation to come in out of the rain, to see, and to judge for yourself.
Give me a call on my toll free number and leave a voice message if I am unavailable. I will Direct you to what ever information you need.
1-888-292-0967

I am not here to sell you anything, just provide you with some information, that you are requesting.Yet you have a toll-free number setup to give them a free ticket. Face it, you're just a shill for the company here to pump it.

Same goes with your buddy Parindra who talks about hearing real people making money then links to a Coastal site where employees answer the phone. Also that site mention very little about the actual product or service that one would sell - a definite danger signal of MLM schemes.

Also you'll notice during web searches that many discussion board postings proceed exactly as this one: someone registers on the same day that they post a question about Coastal, other people register that same day or the next day and offer beautiful copy/paste answers. Never do longtime posters in those discussion groups ever pipe in to offer their success stories.

Be very wary of this group and their "directors".

1) I do not know this person

2) There is a dedicated website for explaining what the company is and the products and services

3) There are testimonies all the time about successful people in the Home Business Connection magazine

4) There is a website full of testimonies from members

5) There are real live testimonies everyday on the calls and online presentation
It's not recorded. Come and see for yourself.

6) This is not MLM. In MLM there are people above you making money off you when you sell a product.

7) I never linked to a site where Staff answer phone calls. I gave a number for a Live QA event call that takes place everyday where a bunch of are on the call and take turns asking questions. The people hosting the calls are not Staff, but members themselves who are interested in leadership roles and are taking time from their life to help in.

8) I'm not here to pump up the company. I'm not a member.
I'm here to find out whether there is something real about negative things people have heard about CSG, and so far there isn't.

I don't really understand what your deal is. By what you have been saying, you really know nothing about CSG, or the system they use. You seem by default to think it's something bad. Are you having problems in your sex life, that you need to take anger out on innocent people and mislead them? I'm sorry if I am getting personal here. But sometimes angry people want to ruin things for others.




Yet you have a toll-free number setup to give them a free ticket. Face it, you're just a shill for the company here to pump it.

Same goes with your buddy Parindra who talks about hearing real people making money then links to a Coastal site where employees answer the phone. Also that site mention very little about the actual product or service that one would sell - a definite danger signal of MLM schemes.

Also you'll notice during web searches that many discussion board postings procede exactly as this one: someone registers on the same day that they post a question about Coastal, other people register that same day or the next day and offer beautiful copy/paste answers. Never do longtime posters in those discussion groups ever pipe in to offer their success stories.

Be very wary of this group and their "directors".

Needkarma, are you actually interested in getting information about the CSG or do you just want to try sling hash. WE are not an MLM. To become a Director you have two training sales to be guided through. After that you receive 100% of your commissions. That free ticket is to be able to see a LIVE webcast right on your computer. The webcast is a full presentation, and is usually attended by a crowd of between 150 - 400 Guests and Directors, Of whom you can chat with, and ask questions.

Hear are some facts for you:
CSG group of Private business owners, Not a Company. No Employees. Not a JOB
Product: Coastal Vacations Lifetime Membership travel packages which have been around for over 12 years.
Partnered with Vendors such as Hilton, Sheraton, Fairfield, Marriot, Carnival, hertz, etc.
I own my Own BUSINESS. I don't work for somebody else. I get paid directly.
When someone purchases a package from me, I have it drop shipped to them.
Just as Parindra's GF does.

And I take offense to someone who insinuates that myself and my awesome business associates, are not legit.

Has anyone heard of Coastal Vacations? Are the a lefit company? Are they a trusted home based business?

Please do a search of this site, you will find this company has been discussed to death.

Also do a web search of the company, add to their name, complaints,

You will find tons of complaints on the company.

And normally as soon as a new member asks this question, someone from their group finds their way here and will explain they are not really a company, but merely an association that starts individuals in their own business, but they have never been able to properly defend the group or explain who actually owns them, and the such.

My opinion, I would not use them, but many do from what I understand.

Please do web searches and search this site and find what has been said about them, and the many problems others have had with them.

Then make an educated choice of what you want to do.

Has anyone heard of Coastal Vacations? Are the a lefit company? Are they a trusted home based business?
Great Question. I've been with Coastal for almost 4 years. I'm very successful with Coastal and DO know the answers to your question from experience.

Fr_Chuck is correct. There are a few dings here and there online. You'll find that with anything you search out. Yes, even Apple Computer. Here's what my research found when I was researching Coastal.

1) There are a few bad apples who have a few dings. Most of them move onto other things very quickly.

2) It's important with the product that you stay connected and that you do attend the product trainings. The Board of Directors offer 1 training a week. Your membership comes with an audio tape that goes over the membership. My team is doing 5 product trainings a week. We have a team of 6 people who are product centered - in other words - Product Experts... available to you. We're even taking a Group CSG Cruise to Mexico with Carnival Cruise Lines.

3) It's important that you find the right fit. There are groups within Coastal who specialize in areas like call centers, online automation and then there are folks like me who know this business front to back and will train you on how to be successful making Coastal Vacations your home business. Much like McDonalds have their University - My team, the Coastal Synergy Group has CSG University.

Hope this helps you in your research.

Jay NaPier

The Coastal Synergy Group is one of the most caring groups of people I've ever met. These are people who volunteer their own time to help others become successful in business.

When you consider investing in a business, there are THOUSAND of options. You can do a search on Subway and find that many of their franchisees have had legal issues with them because of the way they do business... yet, people go and eat their sandwiches. Remember, the owners of a Subway Franchise paid a lot more than a few thousand dollars to learn how to make those sandwiches.

Coastal offers the average person the opportunity to be paid above average incomes.

I'm an entrepreneur. I've owned a restaurant franchise, convience store, ad agence and even my own soy candle business. Coastal allows me to live the life I've always dream of. Money, Travel and Time freedom.

I LOVE to travel. I'm using my membership to go to LA the first weekend of March 07. I'm back in LA 10 days later. I'm taking a cruise to Mexico in May. I'm going to Atlanta in April, I've got plans for Las Vegas in June.

You get what you focus on. If you look for reason not to do something... you'll find it. I'm successful because I'm a self starter who simply showed up for the trainings. Last month the Coastal Synergy Group brought the Regional Training events right here to Nashville! I was there. We had a great time at BB Kings, we had a hummer limo, and stayed at the Hotel Preston. We're real people, making real money.

Come to our next event in April in Atlanta - find out for yourself.

Jay NaPier

Positive people give positive posts!

Look at the people who are posting. Are they negative posters or positive posters?

I don't know who the people are... I'm new. What I DO KNOW is that I've been in this business for almost 4 years. I'm very successful in the business. I use the product ( we work with over 60 companies) and I'm a Very Happy Member of Coastal.

I have a new team member who just got started with Coastal 2 weeks ago. She lives here in Nashville and she's a very happy member. She's going to Orlando in 2 weeks and will stay at a Westgate resort for $39.95 per night. Folks, you can't stay at the Red Roof for $39.95 a night.

How about saving 20% on Omaha Steaks? $5 off a hair cut? Buy 1 get 1 free at Domino's

How about a weekend in Gatlinburg for $19.88 ( that's just the taxes).

I'm not here to pass judgement against anyone. I'm simply adding my 2 cents. I'm a member and I'm a Happy Member.



Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director
Coastal Synergy Group

The Coastal Vacations business is all about Training and Support. You want to work with a group of people who are willing to help you. The Coastal Synergy Group is a great group of people who help each other in business.

There are some slash n burn sales people who are just out to get your dollar, but those are generally also the people you don't feel comfortable with on the phone.

I don't use a call center and any type of assistant to answer my phones. I make the time to talk with everyone who wants to speak with me who calls my office. I'm very available to everyone.

Finding the right answers for you can mostly be found within yourself. Do your own research and don't allow anyone to make the decision for you. Not even the dog catcher!

Jay NaPier

I have no perosnal first hand info on them

This is an important statement when you consider any business. The Coastal Synergy Group could also be referred to as the people with heart. We have the CSG Pro Hearing group that was put together by two of my friends Pam from Ohio and Carol from Pittsburg. Where others would have said NO - they found a way to make it happen.

Taking the steps to bring Coastal Vacations to the hearing impaired is not an easy task and it's a task that requires funding. I'm very proud to say that the Coastal Synergy Group raised over $17,000 to help bring this opportunity to the hearing impaired. That's why when you go to one of our movie presentation, you'll find that there's information for the hearing impaired.

When you bring the right positive attitude to the table you get things done!

Jay NaPier

Of course this statement was made in Nov of 2005, and of what we have learned of them since then, my personal advice is to look at the 100's of pages of people who tell you the problems they have had with this group.

I personally can't imange anyone doing business with them, I am sure that there are some operators who have done well, and do good things, but with that the long list of people saying the negative things just can't be overlooked.


LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.



Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.



http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb386849.htm)

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.
__________________

Yes please do your research, and you will soon see what to be worried about, if after seeing all the problems people have with this group, you still want to spend your money, you are risking your money with knowledge


LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.


Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.


http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb386849.htm)

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.
__________________

And honest people warn people about a fool and their money being soon parted.

Warning people about a company that has 100's of pages of complaints and problems, it is also positive, that people are warned.


LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.



Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.
__________________


http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb386849.htm)

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.

It is obvious that people who work for the company are on here tying to "sell" their products.

It is not uncommom we have seen it in the past, in this case every old post from 2 years ago are being brought back,

Even this sort of activity has negative impacts since it shows a over sell just to get the name out there.



LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS,  Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up  Australian two up (http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/Report_Aussie_2up.html)
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.



Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home (http://www.coanetwork.com/coastal) seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.

http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb386849.htm)

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.

LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.




Again, consider the source. I'm not perfect - I'm not asking ANYONE to do something they don't feel comfortable with. I can tell you that Rod Cook sells pay plans to the network marketing industry. He works with a lot of mlm companies.

I'm not here to pick a fight, I'm simply sharing my success story with Coastal Again, Postitive People Get Positive Results!

Jay NaPier

Again - We can find a lot of negative information about churches and spiritual beliefs. I choose to look for the positive!

Jay NaPier

Fr_Chuck you copy and paste skills are WONDERFUL! I'm just curious how your parishoners would feel about you spending so much time on this. Are there not needs in your own community or Church?

Jay NaPier

As with any work at home program you must be careful of the 2 big warning signs:
1. having to pay money upfront for 'materials' or 'tools' or 'seminars'
2. being urge to recruit to make "even more money" (an advance clue to this is if there are various 'levels')

Retired, and glad to help warm people of scams,

Dear Jay,

Have you not noticed how all these threads start? Not only here but all over other discussion boards. Some brand new poster ask "Hey, is <insert company to be pumped here> is a scam or legit?" and like clockwork someone like yourself chimes in to wax poetic about how great the opportunity is and to contact him for more info. Odd that uh?

Of course your ad hominem attack on a moderator here doesn't make you look any more legit either.

Fr_chuck You are the MASTER at copy and paste. Why not sample the cheese cake before you decide you don't like it?

One of the biggest challenges I have with people on ANY opinion is giving an opinion based upon someone else's opinion.

Who's the best Nascar Driver? There are many. I have a few favorites, BUT if you don't follow the sport. How can you have an opinion on who the best driver is? ANSWER - YOU CAN'T!

I give my person invitation to ANYONE here who's read this information to attend a CSG Regional Training Event. Talk with the people at the event. Our last event had over 200 people here in Nashville.

Jay NaPier

From what I have read on the net it looks like a scam.

Also you'll notice during web searches that many discussion board postings procede exactly as this one: someone registers on the same day that they post a question about Coastal, other people register that same day or the next day and offer beautiful copy/paste answers. Never do longtime posters in those discussion groups ever pipe in to offer their success stories.



People should ONLY POST about things they have experience with. I can't be everywhere and have a 9 year old daughter at home. My family comes first. CSG is a family of people who all have a passion for travel. I'm new here and I'm only looking to share my experience so people who HAVE A REASON to work from home - CAN!

Jay NaPier

As with any work at home program you must be careful of the 2 big warning signs:
1. having to pay money upfront for 'materials' or 'tools' or 'seminars'
2. being urge to recruit to make "even more money" (an advance clue to this is if there are various 'levels')

LOL... this is a hoot. Better tell that to the folks who buy restaurants. I've YET to see a bakery without an oven!

Even more funny is the next one. So your saying that Bill Gates does all the sales at Microsoft? I've got a sales team that work with me. I manage the team and help them in their business.

Jay NaPier

Dear Jay,

Have you not noticed how all these threads start? Not only here but all over other discussion boards. Some brand new poster ask "Hey, is <insert company to be pumped here> is a scam or legit?" and like clockwork someone like yourself chimes in to wax poetic about how great the opportunity is and to contact him for more info. Odd that uh?

Of course your ad hominem attack on a moderator here doesn't make you look any more legit either.

Agreed, and I'd like ot also add that most of these people who are are people who are afraid to take a risk. I bought my first franchise in 1995. I was married 4 months and packed everything into a UHaul to move to Cincinnati to buy a Gold Star Chili Franchise. I didn't go ask the maintaince guy at my apartment complex what he tought? What did he know about running a business?

People should simply get the information about ANY business. Decide what it means to them and ACT.

Jay NaPier

From what I have read on the net it looks like a scam.

I took a different approach. I got involved. Took vacations. Met the people. Got to know the Board of Directors.

The ONLY way to have an opinion about ANYTHING is to find out for yourself. One of the reasons politics is such a challenge is because people stay glued to the TV listening to other peoples opinions instead of getting the facts and making their own decision.

Did The speaker of the house say that? Lol... I don't watch news because it WAY too negative!

Again... Get The Facts!


Jay NaPier

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money, And a good sales person can make money if the item is a toilet brush, plastic dishes or vacations and travel.

And I will add that many on here know I am a great web researcher, and I will say that it appears Jay here means well, I see that on some news releases he even speaks for the company. And is a retired ( maybe not the right word) owner of some restaurant. And that he has tried hard to help many of the people cheated by some of the bad people. And I know he can't really admit how many bad it was, since that looks bad on the company.

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Jay, I am sure is here to do some or try to do some loss control and try to get a few people to come to their site, I don't blame him, that is his job.

And this business is as good as many, better than some. Jay has done allot of good and has tried to help many cheated by others from Coastal.

So no Jay we are not all against you, just want people not to get caught up in the get rich, travel free and look at handsome as me, but think before they invest in yours or anyone's plan.

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money, And a good sales person can make money if the item is a toilet brush, plastic dishes or vacations and travel.

And I will add that many on here know I am a great web researcher, and I will say that it appears Jay here means well, I see that on some news releases he even speaks for the company. And is a retired ( maybe not the right word) owner of some restaurant. And that he has tried hard to help many of the people cheated by some of the bad people. And I know he can't really admit how many bad it was, since that looks bad on the company.

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Jay, I am sure is here to do some or try to do some loss control and try to get a few people to come to their site, I don't blame him, that is his job.

And this business is as good as many, better than some. Jay has done allot of good and has tried to help many cheated by others from Coastal.

So no Jay we are not all against you, just want people not to get caught up in the get rich, travel free and look at handsome as me, but think before they invest in yours or anyone's plan.

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money, And a good sales person can make money if the item is a toilet brush, plastic dishes or vacations and travel.

And I will add that many on here know I am a great web researcher, and I will say that it appears Jay here means well, I see that on some news releases he even speaks for the company. And is a retired ( maybe not the right word) owner of some restaurant. And that he has tried hard to help many of the people cheated by some of the bad people. And I know he can't really admit how many bad it was, since that looks bad on the company.

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)

Jay, I am sure is here to do some or try to do some loss control and try to get a few people to come to their site, I don't blame him, that is his job.

And this business is as good as many, better than some. Jay has done allot of good and has tried to help many cheated by others from Coastal.

So no Jay we are not all against you, just want people not to get caught up in the get rich, travel free and look at handsome as me, but think before they invest in yours or anyone's plan.

I also plan to be in Las Vegas In June, and look forward to meeting you Jay... the implementor of "Theme Park Thursday".
I remember reading that same cut and paste article when I was researching coastal. I had also seen yours, Stephanie's, and a few others, and that one or two negative things from somebody I didn't know compared to the positive things from people I did hear on the calls... was a major factor. After joining, all I can could say was Wow! And it keeps getting better.
Also the fact that Coastal Vacations has over 200,000 directors world wide.

Chuck, you were invited to come to Nashville, and to alert the media, if you so desired.
If and when you meet a few directors from the CSG, you will never find a more caring, and positive group of people in your life.

Actually I may meet some of the people first hand, as noted above, if you read the post, most of the things I find on Jay are very positive, which was noted.

On sties like this, people ask questions, and some of us research it by web searches and other searches, and give answers, so when there are negative things, we have a obligation to also make readers aware of it.

I am sure there are good people in it, ( but some bad also as in any business) My main concern is now, after being aware of all the past problems, what procedure to protect people are in place today when there is problems from others.

To the all of the Coastal Synergy Group naysayers on this board, your one-sided opinions (redundant, I know) are becoming weary.

Don’t get me wrong, I do value your thoughts as they are a necessary part in presenting a whole picture of this business. My offense to your posts against Coastal Synergy Group (CSG) comes from implying that positive posters may be Coastal Members and that they must be promoting the business for their own personal gain. I guess no good could possibly ever come from someone ever being positive about this opportunity. You post your opinions but slam others who post ones contrary to yours.

Believe me, I do not offend easily; I am not politically correct; and I definitely have better things to be doing than answering every post I don’t agree with.

But my being a CSG member doesn’t make me any less of an expert on Coastal Vacations being a good thing, than you not being a member makes you more of expert that this business is a sham.

Most people are going to find positive and negative information on just about anything they are thinking of doing, like when they go to buy a car or house, or maybe even decide which religious denomination to follow. I am in no way comparing the importance of the church with that of a home-based business, but rather pointing out that the selection process is very similar. Before jumping into something, an individual should gather as much information as he can, solicit feedback (both good and bad, if applicable) from other individuals, and then make an informed decision based on his findings,

I am a very cynical and I approached this business analytically. I did every imaginable search on several different search engines. I did the 3rd degree interview on my director. I even ran through listings and agencies designed to detect people who are not who they say they are.

In other words, I did not drink the kool-aid.

However, I did weigh the pros and cons of what I found and made my decision based on cost of investment, time needed to work the business, interest in the product, and many other factors. I have been in the business for over six months now and I can truly say it’s been a life changing experience. I’m not a rah-rah kind of person who gets all hyped up over things, but it was a huge thrill to see the look on my boss’ face when I told him to take this job and shove it! Well, I didn’t use those exact words, but it still felt good nonetheless.

For anyone going to work for themselves (at home or wherever), you must still WORK! The only change is that you’re working for yourself and not someone else. It’s just like the fine print on those “magic” diet pill ads out there – “for best results, diet and exercise are highly recommended.” Translation: you still have to DO SOMETHING to obtain positive benefits. This is not a get-rich-quick scheme and CSG never promotes itself in such a way.

I just wanted to take the opportunity to address my concerns in this forum for all who venture onto this website. I post in favor of Coastal Synergy Group and their product, Coastal Vacations. The people I’ve come in contact with have been nothing but helpful and seem to truly care that everyone succeeds in this business. I have been impressed by the amount of assistance members give to other members (and non-members alike) with no financial gain whatsoever by helping out. I have never seen a more professional and supportive organization and the return on investment has been much more than a monetary value.

To those “in the market” for a home-based business opportunity, take in all of what you read here, both good and bad. Then do more research, and still even more if you have to. Make an informed decision that’s best for you and above all, never, never be a lemming!

As long as people understand they can lose their investment and not make any money, ( as with any business startup)



Fr_Chuck, this is a subject that we don't see mentioned much. ANYTIME we make an investment in a business opportunity it's at risk. You also want to remember that you should have a passion for travel or want to travel before purchasing a membership.

No matter what business you look at, you should have a passion for the product. I see a lot of people who fail in the nutritional suppliment industry. One of the reasons they fail is because they are not passionate about health and nutrition.

My dad retired from business over 12 years ago. He's legally blind and still remembers the years when a company would take care of you for life. We've all seen the lay offs of the auto industry. Ever a great career in the auto industry is "at risk".

Let's also consider that people are making a purchse in a travel membership. I don't use all 60 companies. I use the ones that I enjoy most. A really good example is a trip to San Diego a group of CSG member went on. Normal Rate at the Red Lion Hotel was $249. Team member 1 paid $137 pr. Night. I paid $118 pr. Night. Team member 2 paid $108 per night. The difference was the Team member 2 looked at several options before making a reservation at the hotel.

One of the biggest challenges the US faces can also be our biggest opportunity. It's really just a matter of deciding what it means to you. I know for a fact that some people who took the buy out from Ford now have checks of over $100,000. It's what you choose to do with it that will make or break you.

As the story of the 3 talents goes. You can put it all in a secure place or you can risk it and come back with more.
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True entrepreneurs are risk takers.

Jay NaPier

Rip Off Report:Jay Napier-Coastal Vacations Overcharged for a fraudulent Vacation Package Goodlettsville Tennessee (http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff202338.htm)

"Jay Napier-Coastal Vacations Overcharged for a fraudulent Vacation Package"

Hi Need,

I've stated my position on that and stand strong on that position. It's important for people to accept responsibility for their purchases and follow through when someone is kind enough to offer payment arrangements.

I've been very blessed financially and will bend over backwards to help someone, but they've got to help themselves as well. I sent out the membership to Pam before her final payment was made because she asked me to. I'm still waiting on her final payment.

Long story short - I learned from this bad business decision.

Jay NaPier

Is coastal synergy group a legitimate money maker?

It is a legal company, they are basically a MLM sales program although claim not to be.

There are 100's of pages on the web about fraud and being cheated.

You can search this site for pages of listengs and cuts and pastes that show some of these problems.

I am sure some find honest people to buy from but if you are not willing to risk losing your investment you don't need to be going into any business

First off, all of their money exchanges is done by certified checks or money orders. So, if ever you are not happy, you won't be able to get your money back.
I didn't realize how lousy their travel package was until I started to use it for my own travel needs. It was one disappointment after another. Right now my package is sitting in the garage gathering dust while I am dealing with a travel agent to arrange a trip to hawaii. Don't be fooled by their flashy ads, webcasts, etc.

I've had a different experience. The CSG is a group of directors with Coastal Vacations ( just for clarification for readers). Coastal works with over 60 companies and it's important that you learn how the membership works. CSG offers 5 product trainings with open Q and A calls.

One of my brand new directors is going to Orlando in 2 weeks and instead of paying $225 per night for a 2 bed room condo, she's paying $39.95 per night.

Jay NaPier

I'm supposed to finalize on joining Coastal Synergy Group today, does anyone have any recent good or bad info on these guys? It's sounds so legit... don't they all??

This company has been discussed to death here,

Having a little trouble with the links, bu go up to the right top and you will see a search box, just put in costal vacations and you will find more than you could ever want to know.

Also do a web search with their name and fraud, or their name and complaints and you will find plenty of info also.

Are they a legal company I will assume they have a business license, and pay taxes on their profits, so for that they are legal, do there seem to be a lot of complaints, yes. Can some people make money, I am sure they do,

I would read all the facts, good and bad before investing any money with any company.

If this holds true to form, I wonder how long till someone else who is a new poster will come here loving costal will come here and post,

What home based businesses actually involves "No Selling?"

I have only been able to find one that seems to hold true to the "No Selling" promotions and was wondering if anymore existed, I've been searching for years trying to them.

Thanks,
Kyle

Is it for real?

Hi!

I'm actually a level III director with the Coastal Synergy Group. I joined in Sept '06.

I can assure you that after having many bad experiences with other so called "legit" home based business myself, this is a valid and genuine opportunity.

I am glad that you stumbled upon us! You are very fortunate. You have to be wary of things you see on the internet or anywhere else in the media. Yes, it IS true you will find many positive and NEGATIVE things said by people on the internet about Coastal and the Coastal Synergy Group.

I have to tell you that you would be well advised to consider the motivation AND the source. It is ALWAYS best to do your own due and through diligence, ask questions and make up your OWN mind once you have all your questions answered to your personal satisfaction. Choose whom you work with very carefully, there are good and bad directors out there. Thankfully, the CSG has policy in place to avoid that. If you connect with him/her and follow their advice and our system, you will be FINE!

I have found the CSG to be a very ethical and upstanding group. As you hopefully know, there is both an ethical guideline and anti spam policy that are on our team websites. They are strictly enforced by the CSG and the Board of Directors.

I can tell you that I have absolutely NO motivation for personal gain for letting you this, as obviously you will not be joining my team. My motivation, however is to set the record straight and tell you that I am both very proud and happy to be CSG!

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Thank you Jani, I was starting to think that the set up of a new person asking about coastal and then another new perosn giving it a great review may fail this time. But as normal it holds true to course.

you tried thinking about what it is that you LIKE to do rather then what it is you don't? Then Google search for that topic?

In my opinion, ANY business in the world exists for only one purpose. To help people. End of the day, if your product or service does not help your client you do NOT have a business. So, most home based business are going to involve marketing a product of some kind (though there are some service based opportunities). Offhand, investing is the only thing that stands out to me that can be a home based small business but does not involve "selling". Of course, except for buying and selling shares/stock. I suggest focusing on your passions because that is where you will be able to bring value to others. Really, if you do that whatever your product or service is will "sell" itself.

I work with the Coastal Synergy Group. I do not consider myself a "salesperson". In fact, my background is nursing. Instead, I answer peoples questions about myself, my business or my product that have contacted me and direct them to information they need online. I love it. But, I too had that perception that salespeople were "slimy" or its hard to do. I think it is true that when you love what you do, the money shall follow.

I hope that helps you!

Jani Teeter

Is coastal synergy group a know or a real home based business

I recommend checking very carefully every work-at-home program with the BBB. (Better Business Bureau)

Here is the link to the Coastal Synergy Group work-at-home program with the BBB:

The Better Business Bureau (http://www.fortwayne.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=90004425)

I have seen advertisements for this particular program if we're indeed talking about the same one. Make sure the link I provided is indeed the company you're speaking of. It could be different. Get the name, address and phone number of the advertisement you were sent and enter that information in to the BBB database to check out its validity.

Be careful out there, as you're probably already aware. 9 out of 10 marketing schemes online are scams when it comes to working from home. There are reputable companies out there but they're outnumbered for sure. That's why the BBB is your best friend.

As a side note, I was looking and noticed that someone just recently posted about this company as well on this site. Here's the link to their post. Perhaps that information would be helpful to you as well.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-based-business/coastal-vacations-legit-71719.html

I sincerely hope this helps you.

Gee.. that is funny. We are neither based nor founded in Australia and the compensation model has been used for YEARS in both real estate and the pharmaceutical sales industry. Neither or those are illegal, as far as I know.

That and our product has been around for 25 years and the organization founded 13 years ago. I would think that if it WAS illegal the authorities in the USA (where the organization started) would have shut it down by now.

Not to mention that this past weekend our Board of Directors added new releases to the product at the national seminar-as they do every 6 months. And, the fact that our providers are well known in the vacations industry, most are publicly traded. I don't think those organizations would allow us to promote their products and services if our organization was breaking laws somewhere, do you?

I suggest to ANYONE considering this business that they get ALL the facts and details. Do the work yourself- I went as far as calling Disney head offices to check!

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Hi!

I'm actually a level III director with the Coastal Synergy Group. I joined in Sept '06.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

OK, Jani,

Then please explain to us what a Level 3 Director is. Also, how does one make money from this system.

OK.. hold on you're your hats!

There are 3 products that we offer. They are lifetime wholesale travel packages. They are known as level ! (our flagship product, around for over 25 years), the level 2 (aka premium) and the level III (platinum).

People or businesses buy the packages that best suits their needs. This is a retail sale. Should the same party also be interested in the business opportunity, they will be trained on how to market and promote the products by a qualified director. They become qualified themselves when they have made their first 2 sales. A qualified director is an Independent business owner and can run and market their business as they choose, provided it falls within the guidelines set by the BOD.

One can upgrade to another package should they wish to at any time- its not a work your way up and have a downline kind of business model.

You make money as a director by marketing the product- either in the retail setting or to others looking for a legitimate home based business opportunity. You save money when you use your package yourself (and you are welcome to share it with friends, customers etc too). Alternatively, many charitable organizations use a package for fundraisers and many businesses will purchase a package to use as incentives for their clients or employees.

That it in a nutshell.. I hope that clears it up!

Cheers

Jani
L3 Director, CSG

OK so its an MLM setup selling wholesale travel packages. Am I to understand that the parent company puts these packages together, making the contacts with resorts, travel carriers etc. Then makes them available to independent sales people who sell them.

Might I ask where the majority of your income comes from, your own sales or your teams?

I am not a member. I've been researching this company all day and I will have to say that I am thoroughly confused and am in no better situation to make a decision when I first heard about CSG. Granted, I feel I obtained a lot of information, but I cannot tell which of the information is valid. Fr_Chuck seems to be the most centered on the subject, but it appears that those trying to discredit the company do not have all of their details or facts straight, but I can't trust those who are a part of CSG because they have something to gain. So can anyone out there give me an updated actual site to where I can obtain information reported by someone completely unassociated with CSG? Preferably information produced by the government. I checked out the BBB site, but each director is listed differently in different cities. The one I saw looked great. But that was only one. My fiancé and I have a blended family of 5 children and ourselves. I'm looking to earn some money to help pull us out of the severe money problems we are having. I'm a hard worker and am willing to put my full effort into selling something that's worth selling and is able to be sold. I just need to know if this $1,295 is worth investing in this company. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Without making this a CSG or Coastal Commercial, I'll give you my nickels worth.

There are A lot of companies who have been piggy backing on Coastal's Success. We are celebrating 13 years. Many of these companies have done a lot to try to discredit Coastal. I was reviewing a website last night that gave reasons you don't want to work with several companies... then went on to say why "They" are the best.

We have a training event in Atlanta, GA on April 21st. Come and meet the team. A website can only do so much, but meeting the team will SHOW you the opportunity you have. You can learn more at CSG Training Events (http://www.CSGEvents.com)

At your service!

Jay NaPier
615.573.2536

Does anyone know anything about the Coastal Synergy Group? Is it legit or not?:rolleyes:
Hello Bmayhan,

I just found your question today, although I noticed you posted in last November 06.

Yes, the Coastal Synergy Group is legit. I've been with them for the last 3 years and have a very successful business in using their online marketing tools, web sites etc. The founders of the Coastal Synergy Group are great people who strive for excellence in everything they produce.

To address the BBB report status... Coastal Vacations is an association, therefore you will not find the actual company listed in the BBB. Anything you find listed is with an individual director and their individual home based company. If you find a bad report, then I suggest that you stay away from that individual director as this is a reflection on them, not the business as a whole.

I hope this helps, success to you.

AKennedy

I know that "Coastal Vacations" and associated travel clubs have been talked about to death on this site, but no one discusses it purely as a way to travel cheaply.

A friend of a friend of a friend has approached me to buy their "lifetime membership" for $1,500, with the promise that I can take unlimited vacations, for virtually nothing, for the rest of my life.

How can this POSSIBLY be true? I don't believe in something for nothing, especially when there are all these people making money (supposedly) for doing very little.

Can anyone explain how this group survives, and strictly as a buyer (not a home-business wannabe) if there is any value in this travel club? I have no interest in selling this program, so please don't tell me what a great business opportunity this is.

I need to know, for example, is if I buy this club and book a trip to Vegas, are they going to put me in some dump downtown, or a reasonable hotel?

Thanks!

How much do you travel, it is like those clubs to buy furnitures and the such, any program can be worth of the money if you are going to use it enough.

I would plan out three vactions you may or could go on ( or trips) get the price as you would normally go, and have your rep give you firm in writing prices that you could get the same trip for. Then compare,

I for example pay and belong to AARP , basically for my discounts, from cheap coffee at some places, to motel discounts, I save my yearly membership money each month,

I have and others have talked these guys to death, but your question is different, it is, it could well be worth it, only a honest fair conparison could be woth it,

I will note I had promised to travel over to the one Rep here in TN for a first hand presentation and have not, but still will at some point, but as noted, check it out, if you can save enough, and know you are not wanting to sell, it may well be worth it.

I want to know if this website called synergy coastal group is legit ?

There's a few long threads concerning this company:
#1 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-based-business/coastal-synergy-group-44210.html?highlight=synergy)
#2 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/internet-marketing/coastal-synergy-group-40808.html?highlight=synergy)
#3 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-business-careers/coastal-synergy-group-46112.html?highlight=synergy)

Hi, My name is Dan and my question is is coastal synergy group a scam or not? Because Im really interested in it but I do have that unsettle feeling that it very well could be a scam.

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Wow, these guys are relentless.

i'm on here, because i'm thinking about joining this group. I am now thinking there is something wrong about this company.

Hello Tjdooley7,

You sound like someone that makes informed decisions in their life. Good for you in taking the time to really check things out before you move forward. In doing your research, you want to keep in mind (just as JNapier said in his last reply) that many other opportunities will "piggyback" on Coastal's success.

If you decide to look further into the CSG (Coastal Synergy Group) with Coastal Vacations you'll find that we don't put down other opportunities to make us sound better. We don't have to. The results and level of success that we are able to generate both individually and as a whole speaks for itself. When you look at over 12 years of PROVEN results and success, you can only come to one conclusion. That is that our business model and system works! I don't know where else you can invest in a company and see a return on your investment in a REAL business within the first 90 days, or less.

I've been with the Coastal Synergy Group for three years and it has completely changed my life and especially the way I view life. I encourage you and anyone else that is doing their research to meet the team and the CSG in our online live Global virtual theatre. You can pickup your FREE ticket at CSGGlobalOnline.com (http://annette.csgglobalonline.com) . Then go with your gut feeling and decide for yourself if this is something that will work for you.

ONwards and UPwards,

A Kennedy

888-559-4511

I've been a member of Coastal Vacations for 4 years. I'm a very happy member. I get some awsome discounts on travel.

I saved over $20,000 last year on my travel.

Paid $49 per night for a $119 per night Candlewood Suites in Cincinnati
Paid $19.88 for 2 nights in a $99 per night Oak Wood Lodge in Pigeon Forge
Paid $69 pr. Night at LAX Westin Hotel.

I could go on, but please refer to your friend as they should have receipts for their travel as I do for mine.

Jay NaPier

Wow, these posts crop up everywhere on the internet in the same format.

Anyway you'll need to be careful about who you work with at that outfit - some "directors" are OK but others are scammers.

Yep I was being nice, I did not even show the links and links of all of the scam warings on the company, all of the pages and pages of complaints,
I gave good solid advice of checking the savings, on the vactions you want, not the vactions others take.

But it appears fairly obvoius, they were not wanting to hear a good answer but wanted to hear how get this company was to sell more memberships, sad,

Perhaps this will help. www.coastalproof.com (http://www.CoastalProof.com)

Jay NaPier

This can also help:
coastal vacations scam - Google Search (http://www.google.ca/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=coastal+vacations+scam&btnG=Google+Search&meta=)

Hi, do any of these coastal directors take payments? I really want to do this but can't come up with money up front.

Ms. Kennedy, Thank you for answering my question. I will look at coastal and listen to a few more of your on-line meetings. Thank you.

Another way to meet the team is at our team website Coastal Synergy Group Team Website (http://jay.csglifestyles.com). If you've not been to our 10PM EST Question and Answer Call the number is 620.294.3000 and the access code is 1103#

Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations

Hi, I have also been looking at the same assoc. I have read about some unhappy customers and also have found that the Assoc. has a lot of help set up for all to use. I't s like everything in life, you can always find someone not happy about anything. You get what you put into it. I'm thinking about signing up.

Not me, I've heard of and read too many bad experiences.

How many people in the system? It's been in business for around 12 years. What is it that really turned you off?

What does "people in the system" mean?

I quess I meant how many people are in it now? What do y do for living? I'm in real estate.
In North Carolina.

Sorry, I'm not interested.

You're absolutely right. As with anything, you get what you put into it. There will always be those who are unhappy no matter what.

Do your research, listen in to the calls and online presentations. Get to know the Coastal Synergy Group and go from there. There are many many people in our group that are creating well over $100,000 per year with this opportunity. There are also many people that are doing this part time and adding a few thousand to their household income every month. And of course there are those who have pre-decided that it won't work for them, and they are receiving exactly what they expected to receive.

The Coastal Synergy Group is an amazing group of people and in my opinion the place to be in this business. If you decide to move forward you want to be with first the right opportunity, second the right group and third the right director that is the best fit FOR YOU. The come and join us in Las Vegas at our yearly event this June, we'd love to meet you! CSG Training Events (http://www.csgevents.com)

Create success,

Annette

www.TheCoastalSuccessTeam.com (http://www.thecoastalsuccessteam.com)

Hi Annette,

As much as you want people to work under you I more concerned about this stuff:
Coastal Vacation Scams Equal Bad Vacations (http://ezinearticles.com/?Coastal-Vacation-Scams-Equal-Bad-Vacations&id=529520)

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157)

You really shouldn't allow a few people to cloud your own thinking. First, Do you know the people who've posted this? I know A lot of people who go around complaining about stuff... stuff that is their own fault.

If the grocery store closes at 10PM and you get there at 10:10PM is it the grocery stores fault that they are closed, or yours because you didn't get there earlier?

I know of the Coastal Call Center Group run by Jim Stevens. I have several people from his team who I've rescued from the BS over there. One "closer" told me she left because when someone asked her how many sales she'd made "0" was the wrong answer, and I agree.

I've been a part of the Coastal Synergy Group for about 3 - 4 years. They are a great group of people. I've had the opportunity to get to know many of the leaders and directors with the CSG.

If you are looking for a reason NOT to get involved, don't go looking online... just go to the mirror... your heart will tell you what to do.

Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations

I know I'm new but I just registered to let you all know that I checked w/ the BBB and it says it is a possible scam. I looked it up under coastal synergy group and coastal vacations came up w/ a DBA Coastal synergy. The BBB asked for earning claims and the company has failed to provide them. Check out the link below and find out for yourself. Like they say, if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

http://reports.hurdmanivr.com/0352/90004425?bid=90004425&securitycode=&securitycode=j

I checked w/ the BBB it is the same company. You should check it out for yourself, it sounds like a scam
http://reports.hurdmanivr.com/0352/90004425?bid=90004425&securitycode=&securitycode=j

Again, all I have to say is check w/ the BBB. It doesn't sound like they can prove their earnings.
http://reports.hurdmanivr.com/0352/90004425?bid=90004425&securitycode=&securitycode=j

You really shouldn't allow a few people to cloud your own thinking. You mean like yourself and the other people who register here for the sole purpose to pump the company?

Thank you jam25, no we have to laugh I guess some people come here to really ask about them, but we have a little history with them here, normally a brand new member who never posts anything else comes and asks about them, and within about 24 hours another new poster who has never posted anything else pops up and tells how great they are.
But if you will follow some of the links given above, or just do any simple web searches, the web pages and info about them fairly well speak for thierself.

Chuck, I have a theory: they stopped responding to these threads hoping that they won't show up at the top of Google searches. :)

Lifesaver247 said Ambrotose, which has these eight sugars is now being taught in Med schools!!!!!
That is certainly untrue. It's not taught at Johns Hopkins, and I have yet to hear from any friends at other medical schools that the product is being taught (or used at all) at any other medical center.

About "glyconutrients" in general: first, the term was coined by a marketing company and is not used in the scientific literature. Second, while these sugars are important for the body, your body has enzymes to produce them all from glucose, meaning you don't need to eat the rest. They are all interconvertible unless you have a genetic enzymatic defect which would have killed you at birth unless your doctors and parents discovered its cause and supplemented your diet; even in this case, generally one enzyme is deficient, so the sugars in Ambrotose would still be unnecessary since you'd be taking single-sugar supplementation.

There is no evidence to support any of the health claims that have been made in this thread.

Really and truly.. every time I come here the moderators are always repeating the same thing, don't have a clue as to what they are talking about and are spreading negativity and rumours under often thinly veiled "objectivity".

You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that is for SURE. But no one in the CSG is trying to convince anyone of anything because the FACTS and INFORMATION speak for themselves. Father Chuck- why don't you use some of your excellent research skills to see where those articles you are so fond of c&p'ing actually come from? What motivated the author? NeedKarma- yes, you seem to.

This is a real business. Sorry, but for as long as CV has been around and the providers that we are working with- we couldn't HELP but be real. YES, it is absolutely critical to know and understand what you are getting involved with and to do your research from the top down. Super critical to find the right director. No one I know in the CSG advocates anything but. Simple facts- my time IS valuable. I don't want to convince anyone to start their own business. If I had to do that, I would also have to convince them to run it, learn what they need to know and do whatever they need to do. I don't have time for that, not when there are many people that I'm working with that don't need convincing. And talk about walking into bad karma. I'm not into wasting my time or other peoples money.

There are less then reputable "directors" out there, doing all kinds of things that aren't quite within my own ethics. BUT you won't find them in the CSG. See the ethical policy and guidelines on all of our websites. Not to mention the anti-spam. Failure to adhere to either, and you are no longer proud to be CSG. It is of the utmost importance to not only find an ethical director, but one that is right for YOU to work with. Make a list of your needs and expectations, and before you join find out if they can deliver on them. Which is to say ASK the pointed and hard questions and listen carefully to the answers. Not only your money but how smoothed your future path in business will be depends on it.

I don't try to "convince" anyone of anything in my business. I simply get them the information that they request, as best as I can. In my experience, that is what the successful people in this business do. At least CSG people.

I've started my business last fall, worked at it, followed the proven system put in place by the CSG. Not to say that I have not had struggles. Nothing worth having ever came easy. There is no free lunch. No such thing as a stress free way to change your direction and future in life. There are no guarantees in this or ANY business. There is no substitue for hard work, taking risks, listening to experts who have gone before you and believing in yourself first. Your product second. Your director and system third. You need all 3! My results have exceeded even my own expectations. With my background, I was the queen of skeptics. BUT I did my own due diligence, research (over a YEAR'S worth) and a lot of soul searching. I made my own decision, for myself and by myself. I don't regret one second of any of it. I can echo the sentiment that I am a much more grounded, centered, happy and content and confident person- and not just because of the money. Joining the CSG is the second best decision I ever made, and truly a gift. (my daughter is the first).

Looking for a magic success formula? The prime ingredient is common sense folks!

To quote my daughters favourite storybook- You can be anything by Gary Craig:

"Don't listen to people who say that YOU CAN'T and shut your ears tight when they reason and rant. You will know on the day that your dream becomes true. That the reason it did is because YOU believed YOU"

Keep an open mind. Do your homework. Ask the questions. Get the facts. Then listen to your HEART.

You will create your own success, and my wish is that everyone find their personal version!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Actually, nk-- I would be very HAPPY to have them showing up at the top of Google searches. Anyone doing their research can read all the threads and see for themselves what is really going on.

I'm all for people gathering facts and doing their homework!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Actually Dreamer...

That is the better business bureau report for an Independent coastal vacations director and business owner by the name of Jessica Keele. The CSG not being a company but rather an organization doesn't have one.

Don't know her personally, myself. In fact I've never heard of her- so I can't comment on the quality or accuracy of the information. I can say that as I have not heard her on any group calls etc that she isn't very active with her business. We all run our OWN businesses and can choose to be part of the bbb or not. Coastal Vacations and the Coastal Synergy Group are professional orgaizations NOT companies. Each member runs an independent business.

What I recommend to people is to do a Google search for the directors name they are interested in. Then see if what they read makes sense and is consistent with what they know.

Check, check and cross check facts and information. Also be SURE to question the source. As they say, history is written by the victors. At the end of the day, there is no substitute for backing up solid facts with your gut feelings.

You are absolutely correct, sad but true there are far more scams and scammers out there then genuine, honest to goodness people and business opportunities. Its for me to think that even in my own business there are less then honest and ethical people. But, I can't control what other people do. At the day's end, there is no substitue for quality research. I highly encourage everyone to do just that. It took me over a year to do my homework, and I did LOTS of it. Granted, I'm a bit more wary then most- but I'm glad I did it because I made the right decision FOR ME and I have full confidence, trust and faith in myself, my product, my business model and the group of people that I have chosen to learn from and associate with. If I did not have that, I can guarantee that I would not be as successful as I have in the short time I have been in business.

Best of luck in your research Michel! May you find what it is you seek in your life.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

And I am sure that when done correctly most MLM projects can earn people money....

EXCEPT that the Coastal Vacations opportunity is NOT MLM- therefore chances of success are much better!


As for bbb reports.. again we are independent business owners. Think about how a traditional franchise operation works- each business owner runs their own business under the parent company banner. SO, each independent director can have bbb reports, or even join the bbb if they choose.

Did you know that when franchises first became into existence, lots of people thought that new business model was a scam as well? It even became political! Just FYI!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

EXCEPT that the Coastal Vacations opportunity is NOT MLM...

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSGTell me, what does the "L3" mean in your title?

Level III International Director, Coach and Mentor

Just a short form, I type a lot and quick!

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

I see, so there are many levels then, kind of like "multi-level". But you said it wasn't Multi Level Marketing.?

Here's another thing too. You mention your address here (http://www.the-truth-about-coastal.com/contact.html) as being in Saint-Lazare. As an ex-West-Islander I know exactly where that is. Yet a Canada 411 (http://findaperson.canada411.ca/) search with that info turns up nothing, and the phone number you post is a Toronto number. What's going on?

I have just recently located from Toronto.. because of my business giving me the funding ability, I have moved to a horse farm (you know St. L) is famous for that. I choose to keep my same phone number for friends and family still in TO and my business. I use vonage.. which is great for when I travel. I am blessed to be able to do that a lot! Plug the laptop into a hotel room high speed connection and bingo, my phone and business centre (online office) are up and running. I work anywhere there is high speed internet, and that is the majority of major hotel chains these days.

As for MLM.. Multi-Level Marketing Definition (http://www.investorwords.com/3154/Multi_Level_Marketing.html) That is a definition NOT from me!

We don't have a recurring part commission from all future sales.. that is an MLM thing, NOT a coastal thing. Gee, actually.. I said the very same thing on my website!

Also, have a look there (its in my sig link) at the testimonials. If you don't think I'm real, you can speak with the people on that page (their real contact info is included) as ask THEM how much time and energy I invest in those I work with, how real I am, how genuine I am, what their product and system experiences are. Whatever.. that is the point. Get information from someplace other then the horses mouth so there is credibility.

My address is also on that website. Google earth it, if you like. White house, green trim, horsefarm. If you are familiar with it, this used to be Equinox and is just downt the road a wee bit from Rappenhoff.

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Yes.. may of us do self included. Have a look at my website, and see if you think I am the right director for you. If there seems to be a fit, get in touch with me and we can work something out that works for you SHOULD you also be the right person for me to work with!

Where there is a will there is a way. I didn't have the money to start either. I REALLY did not have the money- I was a single mother on benefits that left me going to the food bank. You have made the decision to get started, that is the hard part. Finding a way, when you have will and determination is much easier!

Best wishes to you!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Yes, I remember Rppenhoff (sp?). My concern is for the large percentage of people that pay the "fee" (what is it? $1250?) and never continue on with it. Apparently that happens a lot, so they are out $1250, who gets that money?

Plus they are many reports of bad directors. Because Coastal is not a company as you stress, getting recourse for any eventually is very difficult.

BTW here's a more objective description of MLM: Multi-level marketing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing)

Did you join this site to help with people asking questions or simply to pump your company?

It's a really nice place, I love it here!!

Well.. the "fee" you are referring to is actually the cost of owning a lifetime travel membership- that makes you are member of coastal vacations. That product belongs to the potential business owner, they can do as they please with it (which includes sharing it with friends, family members business associates etc etc.) You might be interested to note that in fact, the membership has been around for many many years before this even became a home based business op. It was originally sold retail, and still is by many. You don't HAVE to want to start a CV business to purchase a package- the opportunity to do so is an added benefit. The packages are valued at well over what people pay for it. We encourage people to know exactly what the product AND business is all (if they are looking into owning a CV business) about and how it all works before they purchase it. Or at least as a CSG member I do. There are lots of crappy directors out there- you are right. But there are also MANY really great ones.

"Recourse"- any issues with the travel itself are handled by the providers. IE you get a leaky roof in your hotel room, you talk to the hotel manager. Our board of directors also investigates and handles complaints about providers themselves (for example the hotel manager said tough luck with the leaky roof)- and kick them out and replace them for unsatisfactory performance. Then, I have chosen to be a member of an organized group within coastal. They also monitor their membership- there are standards I have to meet and comply with in order to use and access their tools and resources which help me tremendously in my business.

If you are asking what guarantees there will be that you are successful in your business- there ARE none- in this or ANY other business. Imagine, buying into a macdonalds franchise, doing your careful research, looking at numbers- informing yourself of all the information to determine if it was a risk you wanted to take and before plunking down your $250,0000+ asking for a written money back guarantee you WILL be successful? No one can ever guarantee anyone else's success in ANYTHING. I personally would run from anyone who ever said that they could. I do know from my own careful research that the chances of having a six figure income with the CSG more then triples national statistics for the general population. That made the "risk" worth it, for me.

IMHO- at least with this business you do have something to show for it which is a useful and permanent asset at the end of the day if you decide to fail. I knew that if I did quit my business, I had already made up the cost with the product's value. Not to mention tax write offs. BTW.. failure is a DECISION people make by not doing the work, following the system, remaining coachable and quitting. Usually they thought they would go to be poor and wake up rich. I'm not looking to work with those individuals. I am confident that the complainers who have failed in this business are people who quit, gave up or thought they were owed a living for very little input. I also know that when someone is looking at any opportunity, it is a major life decision and its natural to have the negative stand out and stick in ones mind. But there is balance, and that is where its important to do one's own homework. How many people have you heard of invest lots and LOTS of money in a franchise opportunity and can't make it work? If you were investigaing a Subway sandwich shop, for example- you would do your homework, get the facts and look at both sides, would you not? The difference between an informed decision and a gamble is information. Quality, accurate information.

I don't tell people that will happen (that its easy and they will fall into wealth)- and I am very selective with whom I choose to work with. I work very hard at my business, and I want to invest in others who have that internal burning desire to do the right thing and do whatever it takes to get what they want in their life. Its NOT easy, but it IS simple and many people from all backgrounds have found success. But bottom line, you have to WORK at it. IF that means 10 hours a week for someone- that is fine- just put in that 10 hours a week until you know what you have to know, have developed the skills you need and then you will have your success. But you need that consistency, learning, and WORK. Granted, I think it's a lot of fun for the most part!

To me, it's a shame that the common mindset is that "working from home and being self employed" is somehow a guaranteed ticket to easy street. No one would EVER think starting a traditional business was! I'm not saying I don't work at what I do- I DO! I don't work lots of hours, I do use a proven system that saves me time and allows me to work smart. I am saying that I love and have passion for what I do, which is not the experience of most people I have met in this life.

If someone joins my team, I work VERY hard to help them learn what they need to know and do what they need to do. I have no problems being paid for that investment I make in them- especially since they also have the product in hand. People DO quit- it breaks my heart that good people do- BUT I can't feel badly when I have genuinely put my belief, energy and effort into them. I'm lucky (or maybe not, as I choose people as much as they choose me) that I have only had one person quit so far (and my door is open if they ever decide to change their mind) and do actually have quite a large team already.

You are right.. that is a better definition.. but my business model still doesn't fit into it!

I joined to help answer peoples questions. That is what I DO in part, in my business! Have a look at some of my other posts- I'm all for letting people make up their own minds.

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director,CSG

Nothing worth having ever came easy. There is no free lunch. No such thing as a stress free way to change your direction and future in life. There are no guarentees in this or ANY business. There is no substitue for hard work, taking risks, listening to experts who have gone before you and believing in yourself first. Your product second. Your director and system third.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

I've been with Coastal for 4 years. I've been in the network marketing/ Direct Sales industry for 13 years and I've been and entrepreneur for 19 years. As Jani mentioned... There was no free lunch. I had to start from an idea and work my way out. I bought a restaurant franchise - And I had to learn from experience how to hire and keep top employees. You don't become a doctor overnight, BUT with Coastal - you can earn the same type of income WITHOUT the 8 years of eduction and sacrifice.

I came to Coastal with the education I required to be successful. I applied the knowledge I have from 19 years of entrepreneurship to my business and today - I work 2-4 hours a day, 3-4 days a week. MOST successful people with coastal are putting in 6-8 hours a day.

As you review information about Coastal you will find some sad stories. The reason you find them are 2 fold. MOST people are quick to blame someone else for their own success. The system didn't work, the product required 6 weeks notice before you could use it, My director left me after I got started... but what you don't see is... I GAVE UP!

I didn't have a successful director to work with when I got started. I bought my membership from a distributor with my former soy candle company. My intent was to use it as an incentive and recognition program for my soy candle company. Three weeks after I got my membership, I got a call from my manufacturer that he had to go out of business for health reasons. I made a decision to get out of the business.

I sough out the best websites and management tools and added the 19 years of marketing knowledge I have to the business to find the success I have today. I'm highly sought after as both a mentor with Coastal Vacations and a Marketing Coach for people in the direct sales/ network marketing industry.

The CSG has been a great group of people to work with. As with ANY group of people you'll find that some are more successful than others. When you make an investment in a business you MUST look for the best of the best. I choose to have the knowledge of ALL that Coastal has to offer and subscribe to several systems. I keep in contact with the Coastal Board of Directors and attend as many training events as my schedule will allow.

If your looking for SUCCESS with Coastal... I highly recommend the Coastal Synergy Group to help you get your business started. If your looking to earn multiple six figures, it WILL require a well qualified director to assist you in the process.

Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations

P.S. - A full time director like myself willl make themselves available by phone 12 hours a day. No Gate Keeper. Limited voicemail

Hi Jay!

I'm also working about 4 hours a day (more in the past week as I have just started my own WEBSITE! Yipee!), but make myself available to folks from 9am EST to whenever I go to bed. Exceptions are of course, personal time- church, doctors appintments etc etc.

Unlike you, I had NO real experience. A few MLM style companies- no great success but valuable learning which I have applied here as well. I'm having so MUCH FUN learning great new things (not a tech geek but this SEO and promotions stuff is a great learning challenge!), and like you I did tons of research before I got started. I'm doing the idea thing and working my way out too. One foot ahead of the other. It feels GREAT, and the response is almost overwhelming. I'm so what they call "psychologically unemployable" that it isn't even funny. I'm never going back to a J.O.B. Take that job and SHOVE it as the saying goes! =)

Congrats to you for having that valuable experience and determination to do with without a great director behind you. I have less experience, but a great director. Then again, one can't negate the value of life experiences that everyone has. Those quality people that are true entrepreneurs can't be stopped nor held back- doesn't matter where they are coming from- but its very helpful to have a valuable product, great system, lots of training and personal support and mentorship. Shortens the road and makes the inevitable bumps smoother. Which is nice, if not critically necessary!

It's truly a blessing to have people like yourself in the CSG- the contribution you make of your knowledge and expertise really levels the playing field so that everyone regardless of experience has resources to tap into. Everyone brings something of value to the table, and what makes this group truly unique is the fact that everyone shares and helps others. With the very large team I know you have, your time management skills must be startling! There is no way I could work personally with people the way I like to one on one and still have time with my precious daughter. I'm really committed to avoiding hosting group training forums at ALL costs.. but there is a bet as to when I am going to see the light going on with a few other directors I'm close with. I don't think they realize how stubborn I really am!! Then again, I'm open to the fact that I might have to eat my words in a year or so! I will tackle that challenge and find a new and unique way when I have to that still fits within my personal philosophy!

Ouch, my head hurts just thinking about it! Tee hee!

But it is really nice to see people like yourself also advocating hard (and smart!) work and due diligence. I would like to add that a well qualified director is the person that is RIGHT for YOU. After all, we all start SOMEWHERE. If you click with someone who just started a few months ago but has not yet been able to quit their full time job- follow your heart. If they are finding success by following the system and having passion- they will be quitting that J.O.B soon- and if you can learn from them how and like you need to- YOU will be quitting YOUR JOB in the near future TOO!

I have worked hard as well (I don't know of anyone who hasn't that has been successful!), and I'm very proud of the results I have had to date. I think it speaks volumes for Coastal and the CSG that a single mother with a serious disability can do this TOO, and make a six figure income before her first year is done! The system WORKS! WOO HOO!

Continued success to you!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Lots of info on this group on here and on the web, often it is not needed to start a new thread but merely research the item on already existing threads.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-based-business/coastal-synergy-group-44210.html?highlight=Costal+vacations

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group) (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15157)

Rip Off Report:Sundance Vacations A Subsidiary Of Travel Advantage Network (TAN) Vacation Time share scam use deceptive scam to lured people to their offices Hasbrouck Heights, NJ New Jersey (http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff135610.htm)

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-travel/travel-advantage-network-tan-scam-not-63146.html?highlight=Costal+vacations

And merely click on their name in the search box at the top and you will find dozens of discussions over this group

EXCEPT.. you have referenced CMG not CSTG- for starters.

I *don't* quite understand your bias.. but really, people have to get the right information and make up their OWN minds. This is a topic father, you are OBVIOUSLY NOT an "expert" on!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

You should check out many of the "rip off" or "fraud" alerts on the interent, also merely check out the dozens and dozens of threads on this by doing a search at the top of this page, here are some obvious links

Lots of info on this group on here and on the web, often it is not needed to start a new thread but merely research the item on already existing threads.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-ba...stal+vacations

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group)

Rip Off Report:Sundance Vacations A Subsidiary Of Travel Advantage Network (TAN) Vacation Time share scam use deceptive scam to lured people to their offices Hasbrouck Heights, NJ New Jersey

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-t...stal+vacations

And merely click on their name in the search box at the top and you will find dozens of discussions over this group

I am sure there are some good directors, but as noted they on here say they are all independent and a association, so in the end, it appears by their statements there is no group to hold responsible if you are cheated.

Jani,
There are no experts on home based businesses. We all post here of our free will to help others.

Of course we do see these Coastal threads all over the internet that look exactly like this one:
1. someone post a topic asking if they are legit/for real
2. a "director" shows up out of the blue and answers the question with glowing reviews urging the person to contact him/her for more info
3. person starting the thread never ever posts in another thread except to pump this group

It's so obviously a setup to make fake inquiry threads and the marketing tactic stinks to high heaven. Make one wonder why Coastal must do such marketing.

Can we start marking these threads as spam?

Lots of info on this group on here and on the web, often it is not needed to start a new thread but merely research the item on already existing threads.

And yes everyone needs to look at facts and investigate any online company before doing business with them, and make sure what they are dealing with.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-ba...stal+vacations

Warning: Coastal Vacations Call Center - CMG (Coastal Masters Group)

Rip Off Report:Sundance Vacations A Subsidiary Of Travel Advantage Network (TAN) Vacation Time share scam use deceptive scam to lured people to their offices Hasbrouck Heights, NJ New Jersey

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-t...stal+vacations

And merely click on their name in the search box at the top and you will find dozens of discussions over this group

OH, please do! Then everyone will be happy.. you stop mis-informing people and I have a lot less to do when straightening everyone else out.

Of course.. the people genuinely seeking answers to their valid and legitimate questions are going to suffer at the days end. Then again, there are other forums online that have knowledgeable, informed and helpful people about to help them.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Jani,
Coastal has hundreds of domain names, message boards threads started by themselves as well as YouTube videos. Plus the threads at scam.com are active as well. Lots of places to get answers.

Well.. the "fee" you are referring to is actually the cost of owning a lifetime travel membershipWhat is the fee and what do you get for it?


I do know from my own careful research that the chances of having a six figure income with the CSG more then triples national statistics for the general population. Can you link us to that research? It would be interesting to read.



If someone joins my team, I work VERY hard to help them learn what they need to know and do what they need to do. I have no problems being paid for that investment I make in them. Let's see now: there are different levels, you get paid for the sales that your downstream do. How is that not MLM?

What exactly are people selling if they decide they want to do this as a home business?

You're welcome tjdooley7 (sorry I don't know your real name). I just returned from an event extravanganza with Ellie Drake in Atlanta, GA this weekend.

If you are wondering exactly what I stand for and my ethics (this also is a true reflection for most directors in the Coastal Synergy Group) go to BraveHeart Women | Home (http://www.braveheartwomen.com/akennedy) .

Success to you,
Annette

I guess I would have to ask by people would want to be a director in a group where there is no control over over directors, ( that is what I feel we are being told) how can you choose a honest director over a dishonest one.

* that is what I get from their posts, that all of the bad fraud and all of the bad scam info is not "them" but other bad directors, and that they are not ONE COMPANY but an association of independent people. So if you are cheated by one, the group is not responsible for those actions.

It would look like there has to be a actual corporation at some level who arranges, controls and makes the offers,

But if it is true that there is no controlling factor and you are at the mercy of finding a honest director, that has to be scary.

I would look at it this way, what if there were 100 used car lots, you get alerts and warnings about many of them. But the dealers using that same name say that is not them, ( although all of them get their cars from the same people)

So if you start to go get a car, how do you know if this dealer is honest or if that dealer is not, if they all have the same name.

You know Karma.. I'm well aware that you are not interested in this business opportunity.. and that is OK with me. I can't help people who don't want help!

All the information however IS available on mine and many other websites online. How I run my business is well defined on my page, and I have done my best to address FAQ's etc. Its also non opt-in, which was important to me. I spent a great deal of time putting together to the best of my ability detailed information about what is in the different packages, what the cost and commission is etc etc. It would be a very looong post to put up here!

I don't have a DOWNLINE.. because once people are successfully trained and released they are independent business owners and keep their own sales. If you cared to do some truly objective research, you would not be wasting time as you would then be able to see both sides of the coin and be better equipped for your role here at ask.com.

We are NOT actually salespeople.. but the products we market are mainly lifetime wholesale travel club memberships. We also have the ability to be licenced and certified work from home travel agents and book individual vacations. Depending on how a person wants to run their business, that determines what market they wish to target. Not all directors want to be trainers and target the home based business arena as coaches and trainers. There are people who are in the Retail arm- they market to corporations and non profits for the most part. Originally, that was how coastal got started.

At any rate.. I'm not out here to answer YOUR questions. I'm out here to help those that are seriously looking for honest answers and asking genuine and valid questions as they are considering Coastal Vacations and the Coastal Synergy Group. I don't care where they land at the end of the day, I just want to help people get what it is they came for!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Thanks for not answering questions about the product and pricing - that speaks volumes about the business and the products.

Father Chuck..

My hats off to you, that was an excellent analogy and a well thought out and objective response.

You are absolutely correct, it IS absolutely scary to find the right director! It certainly was for me. I researched the product and the opportunity, then finding the right group and the right director (both honest, ethical and right for ME) was very difficult if not daunting and well termed "scary".

But you are right.. when looking at Ford dealerships for example- there are some better then others. Some people have had horrible experiences and term all Fords lemons- other people are in the middle and don't care either way Ford or not and others are die hard loyal to that auto manufacturer. BUT- they still have a "favourite" dealership and maybe even service manager or floor salesman. I use that analogy, it comes to mind as I am a loyal Ford girl! LOVE my FORD but I've had some worse then awful experiences at a Ford dealership in the past.

Honestly- I did my research here. I joined the CSG because I could not find anything negative about them on or offline that was verifyable and objective. I had to look HARD to find anything bad at all- and when I analyzed it and tore it apart- it was obvious the point of view of the author, not factual and had obvious holes.

SO- in my experience- I can say that if someone is seriously considering coastal and stumbles upon the CSG they are fortunate, because that group under the Coastal Vacations umbrella does have very high ethical standards for conduct to be a member. They will get a director who meets those standards. The trick then is, getting a director whose teaching and mentoring style fits with them. Which is why I am here- and trying to help. I am fully aware that if people ask these questions they are ALREADY going to be working with someone else, and I have nothing to gain- save the pleasure in doing a good turn for someone else who now is where I once was.

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Jani,
There are no experts on home based businesses. We all post here of our free will to help others.

Of course we do see these Coastal threads all over the internet that look exactly like this one:
1. someone post a topic asking if they are legit/for real
2. a "director" shows up out of the blue and answers the question with glowing reviews urging the person to contact him/her for more info
3. person starting the thread never ever posts in another thread except to pump this group

It's so obviously a setup to make fake inquiry threads and the marketing tactic stinks to high heaven. Make one wonder why Coastal must do such marketing.

Obviously a "set up"?? No, I think the people who post are looking for answers and find ask.com

Then people, in the business like myself who are out to help answer peoples questions and know how to Google the search term "coastal vacations" find their post and answer it. I'm often still researching my business online for my own reasons- just to see what is going on, what is being said (good and bad). I see that as GOOD BUSINESS. One just can't lark off and not keep their finger on the pulse!

Person starting the thread never makes another post save to pump the group. Gee, to me that means that either they got their answer and got turned off by either mis-information or found the answer did not meet with their needs (which is great because no ones time or money got wasted) OR they got their answer, started their business and now are delighted to "pump" the group because they are very happy with the result!

I've seen many references on this thread to this "secret set up" plan that you are referring to. Now really, do you think I'm that silly, that unethical and have time to figure out where to go and post for no good reason? Can you consider for one second that you are not the only person around who knows how to use a search engine, and that this being a popular content site comes up in the first couple of pages?

Frankly, I was accused a short time ago of being in on "the plan" and it disgusted me enough to get in touch with the powers that be over at ask.com and file a complaint. I had not and have NOT to date "urged" anyone to contact me. People asking the questions are already working with other directors and I would only be hurting the reputatin of my group to be "urging" them to come onboard with me instead of someone they already know and like. Again, have a look at the home page of my website. I'm not about convincing or URGING anyone to do anything. My philosophy is VERY different. I'm here. If people want to talk to me because they like my philosophy and approach, they can. If not, then fine. I simply hope they find what it is they are looking for- whatever or whoever it is that works for THEM. Its NOT about ME- its about THEM!

It seems to ME that the questions that people are asking are genuine and straight from the heart, not set up and twisted. I don't know.. but perhaps someone who posted a question will show up one day and let you and the other mods know how exactly they came to post a question here. I've just explained how it is that I came to answer!

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Karma- I DID answer the question.. go and see my website! Or would you really rather me cut and paste the very long and detailed web page to one of my posts?

In the internet ettiquette I know.. cut and paste for miles is considered quite rude.

If you would like a live, detailed product description with live question and answer then please visit the global theatre presentation. It is on Saturday and starts at 12:30 EST and ends about 2 hours later. See what I mean- a VERY long post, not to mention a more then full time job! Thus, the CSG system. Works great.

We have extensive, lifetime travel memberships that are updated every 6 months and contain over 60 different providers. That is a LOT of information!

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Excuse me, the proper way to Google something? As in what to type in so you don't get warnings that this is a scam?

Sorry but when a dozen or more websites are declaring this as a scam, it's a scam.

Any website that expects you to pay to join sounds like a pyramid scheme, I would never pay someone that offered me a job.

Excuse me, the proper way to google something? As in what to type in so you dont get warnings that this is a scam?

Sorry but when a dozen or more websites are declaring this as a scam, it's a scam.

Any website that expects you to pay to join sounds like a pyramid scheme, i would never pay someone that offered me a job.

Don't put words in my mouth- I Google "coastal vacations" and come up with all sorts of things, good and bad.

A dozen or more websites can be found complaining about ANY business. Try for yourself and see, with a company whose products you know and trust.

I'm sorry, but I am not my websites, and I certainly don't expect people to join my business and want to work with me without speaking to me first! It may sound like a pyramid to you- but clearly you have not looked at it. Then again.. corporate America IS a pyramid scheme. Think about it! This is the farthest away from that I've ever seen! I'm not "at the top" because there is no bottom.. and I don't have control over anyone save myself. Some might see that as a curse, I see it as a blessing.

I wouldn't pay someone that offered me a job either. Jobs are were employers pay YOU. I'm not an employer! Thing is though, I don't know of any BUSINESS that can be started for free. The Coastal Vacations home based business opportunity is a BUSINESS for entrepreneurs NOT a job for employees, and it is about marketing a very real, very tangible, exceptional product. It has a comparatively low start up cost to most businesses (at least most real and potentially profitable ones-which I don't include vitamin selling schemes or other mlm business in), and as I have shared on other posts- much MUCH less risk then other business opportunities when you consider the product you own. Granted, you must actually like travel to even consider getting involved!

Its NOT for everyone.. but it is not supposed to be! Less then 10% of the population has what it takes to be entrepreneurs and that is a good thing. I still need the good people at the bank, the post office, the gym, the grocery store, the gas station, wherever... point is- if they want more for themselves then a JOB, see this opportunity as something that is right for THEM and want to work with ME and I with them- everyone wins!

First, I did try it, I googled about a dozen companies in various business areas and I never got any hits on the first page declaring these companies to be a scam, while over half of the results for coastal vacations had the words "scam" "beware" "pyramid scheme" etc in the page and that's just the first page of results.

There is a difference between a normal company paying people at the bottom low salaries and the manager making hundreds of thousands and the testinomials found online regarding this company.

There are several online blogs with people saying they paid the start up fee, got the sales and passed them on but never received the commission because the sales aren't followed up. It sounds more like the "managers" just keep these start up fees and move on to the next batch of employees (or entrepreneurs, or suckers, whatver they refer to them as)

It also follows too closely the definition of a pyramid scheme Pyramid scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemes)

Sorry but we have to give out the information that's out there and I can't find any positive review of this company that has not been written on their own website or yours.

Why do they need to work with you if you are not their employer?

First, i did try it, i googled about a dozen companies in various business areas and i never got any hits on the first page declaring these companies to be a scam, while over half of the results for coastal vacations had the words "scam" "beware" "pyramid scheme" etc in the page and that's just the first page of results.

There is a difference between a normal company paying people at the bottom low salaries and the manager making hundreds of thousands and the testinomials found online regarding this company.

There are several online blogs with people saying they paid the start up fee, got the sales and passed them on but never received the commision because the sales arent followed up. It sounds more like the "managers" just keep these start up fees and move on to the next batch of employees (or entrepreneurs, or suckers, whatver they refer to them as)

It also follows too closely the definition of a pyramid scheme Pyramid scheme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_schemes)

Sorry but we have to give out the information that's out there and i can't find any positive review of this company that has not been written on their own website or yours.

Well, if you know how search engines work, then you know why the content sites with complainers and whiners are at the top. Then again, I have found testimonials online from happy people, who have in fact NOT been involved with the business as well. ANYONE can post ANYTHING on the internet.. you have to look at their motives as to WHY. I happen to know that some of the top complaint sites are motivated and paid by OTHER COMPANIES. It's a competitive world.. I also know that a few of the complaints seen ARE in fact valid, and I for one am HAPPY to see them there.

Yes, there is a difference between a traditional company and this one. It is that difference that brought me to it.

There are several online blogs with people saying they paid the start up fee, got the sales and passed them on but never received the commission because the sales aren't followed up. It sounds more like the "managers" just keep these start up fees and move on to the next batch of employees (or entrepreneurs, or suckers, whatver they refer to them as)

This makes no sense to me.. it doesn't even fit with the business model. Note that I am NOT insulting or implying anything about YOU. But if one purchases a package (which is NOT a "start up fee"), makes 2 training sales and then is a released director.. that is it, you are able to keep all of your own commissions and you are FREE of your director. You owe them nothing. SO- I don't see how that so called complaint even makes an iota of rational sense? I'm not a "manager" and I don't have "employees". Im a business mentor and I train and help people to start up their businesses. There is a good REASON that there is testimonials on my website, WITH contact information. I work with people whom I like and respect. I consider many of them to be my friends. Yes, they are like minded entrepreneurs. But to call them "suckers" would be to apply that same label to myself.

Again, the fact that you can Google says very little about you, your experience or knowledge base save you are negative, critical and know how to Google and make assumptions. Please remember that you do attract to you what you focus on.

I'll check in with the ask.com board again in a little while! In the meantime, I do hope people looking for answers find them and that they are honest, accurate and accountable answers.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

BTW.. I wasn't asking about page rank, I was simply commenting that there is not a successful company anywhere that does NOT have complaints against it. Some genuine, some not!


Why do they need to work with you if you are not their employer?

They DON'T need to work with me. Lots of directors to choose from to help people interested in starting their own business do just that. But as I have been successful in this business, people that resonate with me join my team and work with me. I'm a mentor and trainer. I work for THEM!

This business about managers and waiting for money to be passed on or up, back whatever.. it doesn't make any sense! A released director is PAID directly by their client- there is no middle man. So, directors release in hand- how they accept and process payments is their business. Sounds like mis-information to me!

Seems to me.. that all of you doing this "research" have a lot of spare time. If you aren't interested in Coastal Vacations, why are you bothering? If you are, why would you not consider going right to the source?

I wouldn't ask my mechanic about which bathroom fixtures to buy.. so it really doesn't make sense for those of you who admit you aren't "experts" to be answering questions and not even accurately either!

I realize you *think* that you are helping people. Have you looked at your results? Then again, I'm not looking to work for people that can't think with their own head.

On the other hand, I KNOW that I am helping people. I know this because the people I work with every day keep thanking me. I know because the portion of my earnings I make that go to charity are making a postitive difference in the lives of people in my community. I know that my daughter is lucky to be home with me and not in daycare. I know how good it feels to be able to say "sure, Dad.. I can lend YOU some money-- consider it a gift".

Bottom line is this is NOT the right thing for everyone.. but I don' know any ethical director who would say that it was. Point is, instead of detracting and degrading we encourage and assist.

I can only be responsible for my choices, and my behavior. I'm accountable for that.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Sorry to disagree but I'm not trying to be biased, I simply searched by the companies name and did the same for many other companies and only found bad things about Coastal.

And lets be clear, these are not complaints, they are warnings to avoid as many people have lost money becoming a Coastal agent.

And I don't think a competitor would have its own employees make up stories about coastal to make themselves look better, if this was ever traced back to them they could be lible for slander. And an individual would not make up stories about losing money, I have to think there is a grain of truth to the bulk of the stories.

LOL...this is a hoot.

Yes, I would actually say the whole forum is a hoot! Seems like there is a lot of people that need a lot of help! Some of the people unfortunately seem well beyond it. But what can you do with other peoples children?

It really is a wonderful thing to have a forum where people can ask questions and get answers. Its just rather unfortunate that people answering them often don't have much information themselves to answer with. Then again, I think that is most likely true in most areas of life.

When I need an expert, I go out and find one. I hope other people think about doing the same!

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

I know all about ripoffreports.com, and I know for a fact it is not what it appears to be. I also know that popular content sites rise to the top of the engines. I also know that there are many GOOD things said about coastal, and many happy people. If you are looking at the first page of Google, have to hoped onto the work at home forum?? Bottom line is, I don't think you can find a single home based business online that does NOT have bad press about it. That has more to do with the people who have gotten involved in the past, generally. For example, I have been involved with melaleuca, herballife and several others. I still say great products, awful business model. Then again, there are lots of people that really do well and like those businesses. I just know in my own experience that making money with those mlm style companies is a WHOLE LOT harder then with Coastal.

Naturally, it makes sense that the people promoting the business have good things to say about it and good experiences. The people who have had bad experiences, for whatever reason have bad things to say. Again, 77.6 percent of statistics are "made up" as you put it.. having a statistics background myself- I can tell you that even "genuine" statistics are often skewed and manipulated. I always say check and cross check your source. Back up and seek out the facts and not just opinions.

I'm not a "coastal agent" that implies I work for the company. As far as I am concerned, the packages are worth well more then what we market them for, so if people think they have "lost money" because they haven't followed through with the business- its just sour milk.

You can think what you want.. I'm just saying that you should actually look at the other side of the coin. I have a good friend who lost THOUSANDS (as in double digets) of bucks on a pizza pizza franchise. Do you think he has anything good to say about them?

I still say they have the BEST pizza though!

LOL...this is a hoot. Better tell that to the folks who buy restaurants. I've YET to see a bakery without an oven!An oven is an asset in return for the money - that's the difference Jay.


I've got a sales team that work with me. I manage the team and help them in their business.They are not your employees, in your case you don't pay them - they pay you.

Except.. our "oven" is a lifetime travel membership. The oven depreciates over time.. but our membership is worth much more then when we pay for it initially- so automatically pays for itself. For most people, they pay for the cost of their membership the first time they take a vacation.

Yes, you are right.. the people we work with and FOR are not our employees. They are people we have agreed to teach to run their own businesses successfully. A Coastal Vacations home based business is an opportunity- not a job. I work, absolutely.. difference is I work for myself, when I want and with whom I want. I'm not tied down. I'm paid based on my results and NOT my hours spent. To really be successful and have longevity in this business, as in most others- you have to provide the people you work for with value. That is why people like Jay and Annette have good names and people around them who are also successful. They do what they are paid to do.. they do it well, and with integrity.

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

Wow! Isn't this called the askmehelpdesk forum where people go to find answers from experts? What I am seeing here are negative comments from people who cannot be considered experts like Jani and Jay. I am not even in their group so I have nothing to gain from promoting them. Am I mistaken, but the article Father Chuck refers to was written in 1996? What a perfect storm of bad luck, or perhaps just looking for anything and everything wrong with something.

To answer the question and not to get distracted with other arguments, Coastal Vacations is not a scam. Is it different than mainstream America? Sure, maybe it is. It takes work, maybe not 9-5, but it is NOT a get rich quick scheme and we offer no promises of success. It is an opportunity for those who really want it to break out of the corporate world, the JOB - to be able to spend time with family without putting kids in to daycare. Or maybe it appeals to someone who will never make more than $XX in their regular job but has dreams of putting children through college or buying a house or working for themselves. What is wrong with that? Some people have an entreprenurial spirit and are well suited for this, rather than be tied to a cubicle all day. On the other hand, this opportunity is NOT for everyone.

The word scam tends to be misused. I believe there have been many people who have had a bad experinece with Coastal. There are many reasons for that. Mostly it is because the person joined up with someone who may not be above board or is not really helpful and enthusiastic. That happens, it is true. So, what I am trying to say, that particular director may be considered a "scam" but Coastal Vacations overall is NOT. But that is because we all individually run our own business.

And why is it that people give more validity to the complainer rather than those who have been successful?

I hope that answers the original question that was asked.

Noreen

We are experts as much as Jay and Jani are. They are only experts at getting people to join, nothing else. We are experts at research and warning people if the case need be. Now let's see if your IP address is familiar...

If I wanted to learn about basketball, I would learn from Michael Jordan, not the guy that writes about him. How are you an expert, because you research something and have an opinion? That is what you have is an opinion and certainly you are entitled. However, I would consider an expert as one who is involved, not one standing on the outside looking in.

There is so much more to it than getting people to join, so clearly you do not know what you are talking about. You must NOT be and expert on this topic, so I am not sure why you are chiming in.

Can we stick to answering questions here? No need to creep around trying to track down my IP address. I will give you my full contact information if requested.

Noreen

I will give you my full contact information if requested.

NoreenOk, if you want to.

I can't speak for Jani, but I can tell you I'm the same way Noreen. First... I seek out someone who's doing what I want to do. I sell 5-13 Coastal Memberships a week based upon the system I use and putting in 2-4 hours a day of productivity.

The Result most Coastal People are looking for is to sell membership. Makes sense to me.

On the other side of the coin... there are ALWAYS people who look at the glass half empty... and hey, they are entitles to their outlook. At the end of the day, you get to keep what you give away.

Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations

Well Jay, thanks for comfirming that this is mainly another MLM concept where the end product is not important - recruiting people is.


I can't speak for Jani, but I can tell you I'm the same way Noreen. First...I seek out someone who's doing what I want to do. I sell 5-13 Coastal Memberships a week based upon the system I use and putting in 2-4 hours a day of productivity.

The END result most Coastal People are looking for is to sell membership. Makes sense to me.

On the other side of the coin...there are ALWAYS people who look at the glass half empty...and hey, they are entitles to their outlook. At the end of the day, you get to keep what you give away.

Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations

I believe you may have taken Jay's words the wrong way. Jay is saying he is selling membership packages which is a real package, a real product with real value. A person could choose to become involved as a business or just buy the membership in Coastal Vacations, which, as I said is a real travel membership product. In fact there are 3 different packages to choose from . Truthfully, I would bet the percentage of people who stick with it as a business is no where near 100%. But at least those who do not follow through as a business have a valuable membership package which is theirs to keep for life. The end product IS important. At least for me.

There are many people who market these lifetime vacations memberships as a retail, stand along product. Myself included. No MLM involved there. Direct Sales. Do we try to build teams? Yes. Is that the only thing we do? No.


Noreen

Come on, don't be ashamed of selling, selling is a very good profession.
And jay does clear OK though his local BBB and it appears he has spoken out against some of the fraud issues of other directors.

After a lot of research ( and they are making it harder to do research now, since they are adding fruad and scam to most of there internet sites and adds, so when you do a search you can't find the bad posts amount the 100's of pages they are posting. But their advertising is we are not a scam ?

But I don't know the other posters and have not checked them out, although I still waiting for Moreen to give that IP address since it does not seem to allow you to know the server used.

But so what if it is MLM that does not make it bad, guys, look at amway, a great product, I love it, would not sell ti, but I buy and use it.

So you sell memberships for others to see it, great if you are a honest director.

Which is what I see the issue being after looking close, it appears there is not a master company that can be sued if one of the "directors" ** you can correct me on the title>
But if you have a director go bad or a decide to cheap people, since they are independent, there is no person no master company to sue in court for your money back, so if your director goes bankrupt you can just be out.

Well many mcdonalds are franises, so that is not a bad thing either.

I guess the problem is, it is sort of like George Bush, their group of people made a lot of mistakes, but instead of just admitting it, and admitting what it really is

So it is sales, great, many great jobs are sales, real estate, insurance, cars, medical supplies I did for years, I sold the product.

I can't speak for the other ones but Jay NaPier seems like a very honest person, ( a heck of a sales person) and if I was wanting a discount vacation package, and decided this was the program, I would buy it from him. But I would have course read over any contract, get everything in writing, and be honest to yourself what it is all about.

Sorry you other two, I started tracing Noreen but decided I had better things to do with my time tonight and Jani, sorry, you just seemed like a nice lady and posted your photo ( I hope that was you)
So not trying to send Jay all the business, but he lived close enough I could do more indept research on him.

So have there been unhappy people with the program, yes, has some of the directors went crazy and cheated people, even their own people say yes. Don't I remember even jay speaking out against some at one time?

But can you get discount vacations, it appears so, heck I wish jay would send me on one, but you have to take enough trips to be work the package is you are buying it just for that.

Can you make money seling packages, well can you make money selling used cars, some people can, some people can't. I have heard that 90 percent of insurance agents quit before the first year is over. So yes most likely what 80 to 90 percent of the people who start with you all don't make it either. I think one site advertising closers for costal listed it at 95 percent, but I gueess they were trying to make it sound worst to sell their service.

I think the only real thing we have really and truly is that it is so obvious, that you are using these pages for advertising, so why not buy some adds on here, you all buy adds everywhere else. When a poster comes in and asks, then a new person logs on and gives a answer how get it is, what are we suppose to think it is, a cheap way to try and get some free advertising. This is part of the issues and problems, and instead of just admitting yes, we have bad people selling these out there, and you have to be careful, you try to act it is something it is not.

Of course it is MLM, ** I know your adds say it isnot, but when you can get overrides on someone, and they can, it is at least a slight MLM.
And some buy it just for the vactions, of course, but most are wanting to make money. And it is sales, how else do you make money, you sell the vaction packages This does not make it bad, but when people try to keep saying that it isnot this, or not that, and it is obvoious it is, that makes everyone suspisious.

I will still warn people to be very careful of who they deal with, since it appears even into 2006 there were some people having troubles with some of the directors. And I guess that is what hurts the ones that are good people, they can't really do anyting about what the other people do, can't fix it for them, and in that, the bad ones are hurting all of their names.

But then that is what causes many companies to go out of business, enough bad people representing the company, and the public will not see the difference between the bad ones and the good ones. So the good ones lose their sells because of the bad ones.

Thank-you Noreen! I actually believe that I know you from another forum? How is it going for you?

I agree.. the moderators and others here often are mis-informed and have NO idea what it is they are actually talking about when they attempt to answer someone's question.

I have found that to be true, not only in regards to this business opportunity but on other topics that I have browsed for fun- that I am actually an expert on. I can sort the wheat from the chaf. Its unfortunate that this happens though.. then again, I think Jay might have said it already...

Why go to your plumber to ask for his opinion about what kind of roofing you should install?

Frankly, if people want to accept inexpert advice for more then face value, then chances are they aren't entrepreneurs in the first place. So, I actually think, in a way- this forum does coastal a favour by keeping less then ideal members out of it. What I don't like is being argued with by people who despite my good intentions and experience refuse to look at the information I provide, consider the point of view I offer and seem to want to be argumentative and combative, accusatory- and willing to "investigate" my home address (and that too inexpertly) and accuse me of not actually living here (not knowing that I just moved and canada 411 is not the worlds most up to date directory!)- but can't be bothered to research the business model they are so busy poo poo'ing, let alone have a student mentality.

Cheers

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

I sent needkarma all of my contact information because it seems I have to somehow prove who I am. I have never been to a forum where people ask me for my IP address. This is crazy. Clearly this is not a place for frank discussion on this topic. I apologize to anyone looking for legitimate answers to questions about Coastal. This is clearly not the place. You can find your answers elsewhere without all of this gibberish. I take offense to someone questioning my integrity an authenticity.

You are trying to trace me? My goodness, you must have a lot of time on your hands.

See you.

If you are the Noreen that I know from the work at home forum, then I know who you are! At least this time, they did not try to say it was a set up. Maybe now they realize that other people use Google as well!

Yes, Father, that IS my picture. Should you ever be in Montreal, feel free to pop by to verify for yourself! Its also on my website, and there are several others of me online on my system websites so you can cross check, should you have enough time.

As for your comment about legal recourse.. well, I don't see that there could be problems with the product that could not be resolved with the providers (ie the resorts etc) but if you were mislead or abused by an independent director, first thing to do would be to let the board of directors know and the second thing I would do is call the local bbb and f that didn't resolve it I would be taking legal action directly at THAT person. Far as I am concerned, directors that are NOT good guys- they DESERVE that!

I can speak to the members of the CSG for sticking within ethical behaviors and guidelines... see links to anti-spam and ethical business policy on our websites. That adds security- can't be there if you don't follow the guidelines!

As for us being "salespeople"- I'm sure that Jay will stand behind me here and tell you know that we are NOT in fact "salespeople" and in fact, Noreen is correct- there is a LOT more involved to this business. Or any OTHER genuine business, for that matter. But. You are right- sales is not a bad profession. In fact, it is THE most highly paid profession in the world. No, we are NOT an MLM organization, either.

As for "sending Jay all the business"- this is NOT about sending business to anyone- people here asking questions are already clearly working with OTHER directors. By answering questions, we are just helping them verify what they should already know. I know by the types of questions I have seen- the majority of them anyway- are already working (and hopefully happily) with others. I can't speak about directors that I don't have personal knowledge of- but to answer the question "is it a scam or not" or about the product, whatever- I am more then willing to donate my valuable time, experience and knowledge.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

You are trying to trace me?? My goodness, you must have a lot of time on your hands. Not at all. I can't see IPs but mods can. I was just wondering out loud if you were simply a person who is registering different names here. It has occurred in the past.

It's very possible to become part of a scam, read the article.

Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Exposes Coastal Vacations Scam Artists (http://www.prleap.com/pr/33998/)

Basically what is coming to light is that because each "director" works independently they can decide to scam people and when you join coastal you work for a director and so you may become involved in a scam without being aware, basically a pyramid scheme. You pay a start up fee and are expected to make sales.

Coastal Vacation Scams Equal Bad Vacations (http://ezinearticles.com/?Coastal-Vacation-Scams-Equal-Bad-Vacations&id=529520)

I don't know how this poor lady with the sick mother and sister feels about this thread turning to Coastal Vacations! My thoughts are with you- I am from a nursing background, I know that is a very difficult disease.

Father Chuck.. feel free to go to my website and complete an EXIT survey. I realize you don't want to get more information about this business, you already think you know it all. But pick up a vacation. I'd appreciate your comments and feedback about the site, should you have the time. I offer that to people, so that they can see for themselves we have a real product. I know you for some reason don't think I am who I say I am.. but like I said, feel free to visit if you have the burning urge.

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG

HOLY MOLY! This is a Coastal Slam Fest! Let me jump in and say that Coastal and the call center was a definite answer to prayer. I got on my face before GOD and prayed that he would lead me to a way to make money for my family and I recommitted my life to him and made a promise that I would tithe even if I didn't make money in whatever business he led me to. Well, he answered my prayers and I am definitely making money with Coastal and the call center! It works and, yes, it is important to find a good director. Jani and Noreen and myself are very dedicated directors who offer one on one training and we want you to succeed because our members are our best advertisers. Many say we are not sales people but the bottom line is if we don't make sales we don't make money. If we are talking to people and taking their money then technically we are sales people. We might not be professional sales people and we would rather be considered a helpful guide but we all talk to people sooner or later and we have to ask for money one way or another. Through a website or some other way. Coastal is a genuine business and it's been around for 13 years so it is solid as a business. As Coastal directors we just ask people to get their info from people who are doing Coastal and not from people who aren't. So if you are asking questions to a person who is not a Coastal member then keep in mind, you are NOT getting the answer you deserve.

Hi Harold!

You are right.. slam fest is the right term. Well, I have to agreee that the money making part of the business is direct sales of a valuable and genuine product.. but those of us on the business building end (well at least myself, I can speak for my intent) are really about helping people. My goal is to do just that- not take their money. Yes, I have to make a living- yes, we all start a business initially to do just that- but- I have found-- now that I am successful in my business my primary reward is NOT the money but rather helping people change their lives. Money can do a lot of things- but really what you have to become in order to be successful financially- that is what changes you and stays with you forever. In your heart, in your mind, in your spirit. It radiates in filters into all areas in your life.

Its funny that I was having just this discussion last night.. really- its personal development packaged as a business. A very lucrative business. But money is merely a SYMPTOM- its never the actual problem. Change the way you think, bingo- money problems rapidly disappear. Relationships improve. Confidence improves.

I'm a people person. First and foremost- I'm interested in helping people. I used to help them with physical, mental or emotional illness directly. Now I help them by giving them a vehicle to help themselves.

Teach a man to fish... or a woman for that matter!

I love it! I live it, I breathe it... its my life, my passion- to have people say to me- that their life has changed- even before they see the result in their bank account. Means the world to me. The world.

That is my purpose. To help people become the best versions of themselves. Its about THEM. Live their best, every day. Believe in themselves. Faith. To stretch, reach and grow. If you are not learning, changing- you are stagnant and dying.

I know I could walk away from this business tomorrow and still take with me what I have learned and developed. I can duplicate my results anywhere I choose.

That is the gift I have found with Coastal. That is what I aim to share with and teach others.

You get back what you put out into the world. This, I know.

God Bless

Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG