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tomder55
Dec 1, 2024, 04:39 AM
You may remember some of the stories during the campaign ;how Mark Zuckerberg and other titans of tech and finance were rebelling against the Dem machine and joining the Trump camp . Everyone knows now about Elon Musk . I think somewhere along the way I mentioned how JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon concluded they can't take it anymore. Now Dimon and Trump have behind the scenes been having pow wows to coordinate an economic agenda.

JPMorgan's Dimon defends Trump advisory role, deregulation | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-jpmorgan-meeting-idUSKCN18C1ZB/?il=0)

But there is more behind the scenes. The Dem model since the emperor (who still is a major player as puppet master ) has been to move the US towards a Chinese fascist model that limits business competition to a few favored companies that can easily be controlled by the leviathan state .

Tech venture capitalist genius Marc Andreessen (cofounder of Mosaic and Netscape among other businesses ) spoke to Joe Rogan and spilled the beans revealing proof positive that is indeed their agenda.

He was an insider and was privy to the discussions . What they planned scared the bejesus out of him . So he left for MAGA.

Here is the full discussion.
Joe Rogan Experience #2234 - Marc Andreessen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye8MOfxD5nU)

But with all Rogan discussions it is 3+ hrs long

Andreessen and his partner Ben Horowitz threw their chips in to donate to the Trump campaign .

It's called "debanking " ;the denial of the means to compete .
De-banking - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-banking)



He spoke of crypto . But think Parler and you see the blueprint . They were the would be X before someone like Musk broke the cycle . They were denied a platform by the big social media politically favored companies

Break up the Big Tech Monopolies .....Parler sues Amazon over anti-trust violations (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/current-events/break-up-big-tech-monopolies-parler-sues-amazon-over-anti-trust-violations-847923.html)

They are still around . But without a platform or funding they withered and are in comatose slow death,


The Clueless Joe team bragged how they debanked over 30 start up companies who were not favored.

Operation Chokepoint 2.0: Crypto Founders Silenced by 'Secret' Debanking? - Decrypt (https://decrypt.co/293947/operation-chokepoint-2-0-crypto-founders-silenced-by-secret-debanking)

That is when Andreessen and Horowitz broke rank and became MAGA .

He spoke of the Elizabeth Warren conceived Consumer Finance Protection Bureau (CFPB) how they“basically terrorize finance, terrorize financial institutions, prevent fintech, prevent new competition, [and prevent] new startups that want to compete with the big banks.

When the funding is denied ;the banks get the blame even though it is the big hands of the government pulling the strings .

Again ;this is how Chinese fascism works . Had Kam the Sham won ;there would've been no turning back . (who was her VP pick ? Tim Walz a devotee of the Chinese model)

Andreessen for his part is going to team up with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami in their efforts to reform the nanny state.

Elon Musk's DOGE Dream Team: From Marc Andreessen To Uber's Travis Kalanick, Silicon Valley Titans Reportedly Join Forces To Overhaul Federal Spending - Benzinga (https://www.benzinga.com/24/11/42253427/elon-musks-doge-dream-team-from-marc-andreessen-to-ubers-travis-kalanick-silicon-valley-titans-join-forces-to-overhaul-federal-spending)

tomder55
Dec 2, 2024, 06:58 AM
Marc Andreessen: Biden Admin Has Been Debanking "Politically Exposed Persons" In "Privatized Sanctions Regime" | Video | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/12/01/marc_andreessen_biden_admin_has_been_debanking_pol itically_exposed_persons_in_privatized_sanctions_r egime.html)

tomder55
Jan 20, 2025, 01:14 PM
Vivek is exiting DOGE to run for Guv of Ohio . He is reportedly clashing with Trump insiders . GuV DeWine of Ohio is term limited out leaving an opening .

tomder55
Jan 21, 2025, 06:45 AM
The new oligarchy threat (Clueless Joe's words ) turned for the inauguration.
Forget Zuck staring at Lauren Sanchez's endowments .

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/01/priscilla-chan-meta-ceo-mark-97024614.jpg?w=1024


The line up includes Zuck ;Bezos ;Sundar Pichai(Google) and Musk.

Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Sundar Pichai attend Trump's inauguration (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU0U2ZESWvE)

It is my contention that this is a new oligarchy that may very well replace the old established oligarchy. Joe did not warn us of the old origarchy because he was a part of it (or at least the puppet being controlled by it)

My warning about the new oligarchy is that until they were tools of the old oligarchy who got tired of the intimidation campaign waged against them . How much would it take to return them to the dark side ? The only one of the group I sorta trust is Musk. That is because it was very clear that if Trump lost ;Musk was headed to jail. To the very end they conducted lawfare against him home and abroad.

EU steps up probe into Musk's X, days ahead of Trump inauguration | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-steps-up-probe-into-musks-x-with-new-demands-2025-01-17/)

Musk has until Monday to respond to SEC Twitter settlement, source says | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-sec-has-extended-timeline-musk-respond-settlement-offer-twitter-probe-source-2024-12-13/)

But apparently the strong arm tactics of the deep state made them genuine converts

Opinion | How Democrats Drove Silicon Valley Into Trump’s Arms - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/opinion/marc-andreessen-trump-silicon-valley.html)

This is good news . AI technology controlled by the deep state oligarchs would've become a real threat. It is my hope that this new oligarchy will develop AI to enhance liberty.

"I now want to give the common man weapons against the intellectual man. I love the common people. I want to arm them against the lawyer, the doctor, the priest, the literary man, the professor, the artist, and the politician, who, once in authority, is the most dangerous, disastrous, and tyrannical of all the fools, rascals, and impostors. I want a democratic power strong enough to force the intellectual oligarchy to use its genius for the general good or else perish".

( George Bernard Shaw 'Major Barbara ')

tomder55
Jan 23, 2025, 05:51 AM
The story about Vivek leaving DOGE is about conflicting goals which I don't think should really be in conflict. Vivek wanted DOGE to concentrate on regulatory reform. Musk won out with a spending cut agenda. They are not conflicting goals Regulatory reform would help achieve cost cutting .


My best guess is that it was an ego conflict and Musk has Trump's ear.

Apparently Trump insiders were annoyed with Vivek's outspokenness. (now there's a revelation ) This came to a head during the internal MAGA debate about H1B visas . Vivek made a long rant on X basically trashing the US work ethic and how America "venerated mediocrity " . That is a valid opinion but unwise to state to folks who are representing or trying to represent the working class.

Vivek also advocated for DOGE to operate outside the government. Trump appears to be adding it the official bureaucracy .DOGE is working now inside the White House reporting to Chief of Staff Susie Wiles .

'DOGE' formally established under White House - Roll Call (https://rollcall.com/2025/01/21/doge-formally-established-under-white-house/)

Waiting for the details When it was an outside advisory group Musk said there would be no compensation pay. But DOGE will have staffing and I assume they will be on the payroll.

tomder55
Jan 29, 2025, 03:26 PM
Senator Tim Scott (SC) ;head of the Senate banking Committee will hold investigations about the debanking scandal

Scott: Banking Committee Will Investigate Debanking | United States Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs (https://www.banking.senate.gov/newsroom/majority/scott-banking-committee-will-investigate-debanking)

Scott Calls on Debanked Americans to Utilize Whistleblower Resource | United States Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs (https://www.banking.senate.gov/newsroom/majority/scott-calls-on-debanked-americans-to-utilize-whistleblower-resource)

jlisenbe
Jan 29, 2025, 09:39 PM
OK, Tom. What is "debanking"?

tomder55
Jan 30, 2025, 04:27 AM
It's called "debanking " ;the denial of the means to compete .
De-banking - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-banking)

Debanking criminal laundering; like what the Biden crime family with the bribes they collected ;is acceptable . Debanking for political reasons is wrong. It is cancel culture's ultimate tool and it was forced upon banks with direct pressure from Clueless Joe and before him the emperor.

Think back to the Canadian trucker's strike. Truckers who protested vax mandates had their bank accounts frozen.

Banks Have Begun Freezing Accounts Linked to Trucker Protest - Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/banks-have-begun-freezing-accounts-linked-trucker-protest-1680649)

The US banks were refusing business with conservatives due to Joe's Operation Chokepoint 2

jlisenbe
Jan 30, 2025, 06:32 AM
The corruption of this government of ours is sometimes astonishing. Thanks for the answer.