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tomder55
Oct 29, 2024, 05:21 AM
The left is setting in up perfectly .They are lining up military leaders against Trump. They have this narrative that he will use the military to go after his political enemies . Major publications are calling him a threat ;a Nazi ;Hitler . Who could blame the people for rising up against an elected dictator .

Amid Talk of Fascism, Trump’s Threats and Language Evoke a Grim Past - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/us/politics/trump-fascism.html)

Atlantic has articles saying he wished he had generals like Hitler The source is disgruntled former Chief of Staff John Kelly ;who revealed this tidbit in an October surprise 5 years after Trump allegedly said it . Kelly served Trump as DHS and Chief of staff . He resigned (or was fired ) in 2019 . That was about a year after Trump allegedly made the comment. 2020 he revealed in another last minute surprise that Trump called soldiers killed in WWII suckers and losers . The question is why would Kelly ;a decorated General wait a year or even a day to leave the administration of dictator ;Hitler Trump ?

So now they have ginned up fear . Enter the NY Slimes . They bring in 2 Harvard professors to instruct us on how to oppose a future Trump presidency. It is a call to mobilize .

Opinion | There Are Four Anti-Trump Pathways We Failed to Take. There Is a Fifth. - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/24/opinion/democracy-defense-us-authoritarian.html)

The left is forecasting the threat and then will be shocked when it is a self fulfilling prophesy. Not only do they get to smear him now. But they set him up as well as the Steele dossier undermined his 1st term.

We saw how the left can take to the streets on Trump's inauguration day ;during the Floyd mostly peaceful protests ;and in the various ANTIFA insurrections. Were those just rehearsals ? Imagine a scenario that the professors describe where community leaders instruct the people to take it to the streets .

Now what does Trump do? Would Governor Walz allow the Minnesota National Guard to be deployed on behalf of Trump . Would any of the Dem Guvs ?
Would that force Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act as they predict he will ? And if he did ;how many of the military leaders ;some of whom believe that he despises the military ,refuse orders ?

The left has already gamed the scenario.

TIP_Report_Final.pdf (https://oversight.heritage.org/TIP_Report_Final.pdf)

Disruption, destabilization, and violence are legitimized against a Trump dictatorship. Then if the scenario plays out they will say 'see we told you'

Deploying on U.S. Soil: How Trump Would Use Soldiers Against Riots, Crime and Migrants - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/us/politics/trump-2025-insurrection-act.html)

If Trump wins the election, US cities are at risk of military takeovers and mass deportations | US elections 2024 | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/oct/17/trump-wins-elections-outcomes-stakes)

How Trump could use the military against the 'radical left' - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/could-trump-use-military-go-after-radical-left/story?id=114806253)

tomder55
Dec 23, 2024, 05:21 AM
Apparently Trump is no longer Hitler . If he were then why are so many people in the business world and compliant press flocking to meet with him ?

Morning Joe and his co-host /wife Mika took heat from their cohorts at MSNBC because they met with Trump for an hour. Nobody was more vocal in name calling him Hitler and a Fascist then that duo.

'Morning Joe' hosts grapple with aftermath of Trump meeting | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/scarborough-msnbc-partisan-media-viewers-2c6f4bd59af5698bff44e05ab94b7bf8)

They already had no ratings from the rest of America. Then they p*ssed off the libtards trying to salvage their show by sucking up to Trump .


MSNBC’s flagship shows Morning Joe (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/morning-joe-ratings-trump-meeting-mar-a-lago-b2650410.html) and The Rachel Maddow Show have also suffered record-low ratings during this post-election recession. Late last month, Maddow saw her demo viewership sink to its lowest point (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/msnbc-viewership-trump-election-fox-b2654738.html) since 2015. Meanwhile, this past Monday, Morning Joe had its third lowest-rated telecast since its 2007 launch and the smallest demo audience in over 17 years.
More bad news for MSNBC as they hemorrhage viewers and are now losing to NewsNation in weekend ratings battle | The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/msnbc-ratings-newsnation-donald-trump-b2666544.html)

Business and social media titans Musk (X....(part of Trump's team) ;Zuckerberg(META) ,Bezos (Google) have all had pow- wows with Trump.

Long time Dem NetFlix boss , Ted Sarandos; who's wife served in the emperor's court as Ambassador to Bahamas and gave to Kam the Sham's campaign , met with Trump last week.

Netflix's Ted Sarandos to Visit Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago (https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/ted-sarandos-donald-trump-netflix-mar-a-lago-1236251144/)

Univision execs visited Trump . He thanked them for their support.

Exclusive | How Mexico’s Soap-Opera Tycoons Became the Country’s Trump Whisperers - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/how-mexicos-soap-opera-tycoons-became-the-countrys-trump-whisperers-93c56933?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)

Both the Compost and LA Times have promised to moderate their editorial boards .

I'm guessing they don't want to end up shelling out big $$ bucks like ABC did when they defamed him.

META ;OpenAI ;Amazon ; are all making donations to the inauguration .

Apple's Tim Cook ;TikTok's Shou Zi Chew ; have joined the procession.

tomder55
Dec 23, 2024, 06:20 AM
Add NY Slimes Conservative 'Never Trumper' Brett Steven to the list publicly doing a mea culpa.

Opinion | Done With Never Trump - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/17/opinion/never-trump-republicans.html)

jlisenbe
Dec 23, 2024, 04:29 PM
OpenAI ;Amazon ; are all making donations to the inauguration .Somehow I don't find that comforting. Too much like the "business as usual" we've all become accustomed to.

tomder55
Dec 25, 2024, 06:22 AM
More $$ coming in as corporate cronies are trying to curry favors.

Ford GM contribute to Trump inauguration. (https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2024/12/23/ford-vehicle-fleet-trump-inauguration-donation/77177335007/)

jlisenbe
Dec 25, 2024, 07:19 AM
corporate cronies are trying to curry favors.Yep. It's the sad reality of politics. I imagine it has practically always been that way.

tomder55
Dec 25, 2024, 07:53 AM
and in doing so ;Trump goes from the promise of draining the swamp into another swamp critter .

tomder55
Jan 7, 2025, 07:48 AM
Zuck knows he screwed up with the Trump censorship and woke polices at Meta . So he will never have a the seat at the table that Musk has . But that doesn't mean he can't try.

In a stunning announcement he named Trump fan Dana White CEO of MMA 'Ultimate Fighting Championship ' to the board of Meta.
Dana White, U.F.C. Head, Joins Meta’s Board - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/technology/dana-white-meta-board-ufc.html)
Zuck is also a MMA fan. As you recall ;he and Musk were going to settle their differences in the ring . (or at least that was the propaganda ) .
Musk has at least made the appearance of a rightward shift in META thinking.

jlisenbe
Jan 7, 2025, 02:31 PM
I noticed that FB will no longer engage in fact-checking. Interesting.

tomder55
Jan 8, 2025, 04:10 AM
Yesterday Trump took more questions in a press conference than Clueless Joe took all last year.

tomder55
Jan 8, 2025, 06:11 AM
I noticed that FB will no longer engage in fact-checking. Interesting


Time Mag is very concerned the people can't be trusted to fact check themselves . We need big nanny to do it for us.





While conservatives and free-speech activists praised the decision, watchdogs and social media experts warned of its ripple effects on misinformation spread. “This type of wisdom-of-the-crowd approach can be really valuable,” says Valerie Wirtschafter, a fellow at the Brookings Institution. “But doing so without proper testing and viewing its viability around scale is really, really irresponsible. Meta’s already having a hard time dealing with bad content as it is, and it’s going to get even worse.”
(https://time.com/7205332/meta-fact-checking-community-notes/?utm_source=beehiiv&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter-the-brief&_bhlid=6c65b9e9992e0e8d51ff6bf64fc684adbddebe81)


Meta Ends Fact-Checking, Prompting Fears of Misinformation | TIME (https://time.com/7205332/meta-fact-checking-community-notes/?utm_source=beehiiv&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter-the-brief&_bhlid=6c65b9e9992e0e8d51ff6bf64fc684adbddebe81)

So called community notes works great in X . If sufficient numbers of people make a comment contrary to the post there is an appendix added .

Now X is not as big . Some advertisers have pushed back on this approach ;along with their TDS ;and have removed ads from the site. I wonder if they will be so inclined to do so on Fakebook.

These sites have to decide if they are platforms or publishers . They can't have it both ways. If they want to be the town square then they have to let all have a say.

Jonathan Turley has praises for Zuck's decision.

JONATHAN TURLEY: Meta's Zuckerberg makes a free speech move that could be truly transformational | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jonathan-turley-metas-zuckerberg-makes-free-speech-move-could-truly-transformational)

tomder55
Jan 9, 2025, 05:31 AM
Japan's SoftBank to invest $100 billion in US projects .
Trump announces $100 billion SoftBank investment | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-softbank-investment-us-8df47668f894b5d922839d98887bbb0e?utm_source=newsle tter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top)

Dubai giant Damac is planning an initial investment of $20 billion in US data centers .

'The sky is the limit' on Damac investment in the U.S., Dubai property giant's chief says (https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/09/the-sky-is-the-limit-on-damac-investment-in-the-us-property-giants-chief-says.html)



I noticed that FB will no longer engage in fact-checking. Interesting.

With Zuck it is best that we trust and verify .

tomder55
Jan 11, 2025, 05:44 AM
Meta memo says it is ending it's DEI program .

Meta ends its DEI programs as Zuckerberg blasts Biden on Joe Rogan | CNN Business (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/01/10/tech/meta-ends-dei-programs)

tomder55
Jan 12, 2025, 05:49 AM
Clueless Joe made rambling statements about Zuck's decision to end fact checking .


REPORTER: Mr. President, would you comment on Meta's decision to end its fact-checking operations in the United States? Is that a good decision, in your opinion?

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Well, look, the whole idea of walking away from fact-checking, as well as not reporting anything having to do with discrimination regarding TPS, I find to be just contrary to American, justice American, the way we talk about one another. Telling the truth matters. I mean, it's a, I know I'm on national television, but you all are local reporters and national reporters.

I'm not, that's not a real question, but what do you think? You think it doesn't matter that they let it be printed, where millions of people read it, things that are simply not true? I mean, I don't know what that's all about.

It's just completely contrary to everything America's about. We want to tell the truth. We haven't always done it as a nation, but we want to tell the truth.

And the idea that, you know, a billionaire can buy something and say, by the way, from this point on, we're not going to, we're not going to fact-check anything. And you know, when you have millions of people reading, going online, reading this stuff, it is, anyway, I think it's, I think it's really shameful.

Biden: Facebook "Walking Away From Fact-Checking" Is "Completely Contrary To Everything America's About" | Video | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/10/biden_facebook_walking_away_from_fact-checking_is_completely_contrary_to_everything_amer icas_about.html)

uh huh .

All I have to say is Joe told us that he would not pardon Hunter.

Biden Says He Will Not Pardon Hunter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S55TDDMo0u0)

So much for Telling the truth matters.