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tomder55
Jul 11, 2024, 04:35 AM
Well the Dems can get their panties out of a knot . The Rebub platform is not Project 2025 . Actually Project 2025 is not what the Dems say it is . It is a policy proposal authored by a think tank. Trump says he was not involved in it and is in fact critical of it. Heritage Foundation takes sole ownership of it.

The Repubs did publish a platform for their convention that has Trump's handprints all over it.

READ: The 2024 Republican Party platform - DocumentCloud (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24795758-read-the-2024-republican-party-platform)

1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY
14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS
18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS *****



Absent from this is a proposal for fiscal discipline /debt reduction . Hate to break it to you ;you will never achieve point 3 without ending reckless spending. We are past the point where growth alone can achieve that . They have made fiscal irresponsibly a plank in their platform. For years they talked a big game about budget reduction and limited government . Now they have decided to ditch the whole idea. Trump is no conservative and he proved it again.

Yes they vaguely promise to reign in wasteful spending while at the same time promising incentives for new home buyers ;and giving a Democrat lite promise to access to health care .
Even if supply side tax cutting (and the platform is full of supply side policies ) were to help ;the debt has grown to a point where that alone will not help . There needs to be budget cutting in addition to things like regulation reduction and drill baby drill.

jlisenbe
Jul 11, 2024, 11:47 AM
Absent from this is a proposal for fiscal discipline /debt reduction . Hate to break it to you ;you will never achieve point 3 without ending reckless spending. We are past the point where growth alone can achieve that . They have made fiscal irresponsibly a plank in their platform. For years they talked a big game about budget reduction and limited government . Now they have decided to ditch the whole idea. Trump is no conservative and he proved it again.Very well said, Tom.

tomder55
Jul 29, 2024, 04:59 AM
Despite Project 2025 NOT being the Republican platform ;and Trump disavowing any association ;Kam the Sham and the compliant press are desperately trying to link Trump to the over 900 page wish list published by The Heritage Foundation.

"I will do everything in my power to unite the Democratic Party—and unite our nation—to defeat Donald Trump and his extreme Project 2025 agenda,”

Kamala Harris focused on uniting Democrats after Biden drops out : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2024/07/21/g-s1-12531/kamala-harris-joe-biden-drops-out-dnc)

‘Petty, small-minded and vindictive’: Inside Project 2025’s plan for the Department of Justice (msnbc.com) (https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/-petty-small-minded-and-vindictive-inside-project-2025-s-plan-for-the-department-of-justice-215851077549)

Project 2025 Disavowed By Trump: 'I Have Nothing To Do With Them' (forbes.com) (https://www.forbes.com/sites/caileygleeson/2024/07/05/trump-disavows-project-2025-calls-some-of-conservative-groups-ideas-absolutely-ridiculous-and-abysmal/)

Digging into the weeds ;it appears that the proposals to make the administrative state and civil service more accountable is what really has the Dems panties in a knot. The proposals to eliminate whole agencies are fanciful and would require acts of Congress .

But the President actually running the executive department should be doable.

The Dems know that roll back reform happens at a snails pace here while progressive agendas get put on the fast tract . So they really don't fear Project 2025 . They are using the issue as a diversion to distract from their own record of failure.

jlisenbe
Jul 29, 2024, 05:57 AM
I had a discussion on FB about this very issue. The person contended that since the word "Trump" is mentioned more than 300 times in the 900 page document, then it plainly is a document that is, in fact, about him. When I mentioned that the word "Biden" is likewise mentioned more than 300 times, and yet the person did not contend that document must be about him, it drew a response which we get frequently on this site...silence.

Since Project 2025 comes from a think tank, then maybe we should accept it for what it is, and that is something to think about, a proposal to engender discussion and dialogue. I think there are a number of good proposals in it.

tomder55
Jul 29, 2024, 06:00 AM
yes much of it is a conservative wish list . It's like saying a paper from the Progressive Policy Institute is the official Dem platform.

tomder55
Jul 31, 2024, 12:30 PM
Paul Dans ;the coordinator of Project 2025 has stepped down at Heritage Foundation. Trump is threatening legal action from those accusing him of an association with the project.

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