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tomder55
Feb 10, 2024, 04:35 PM
Special Council Hur was able to review notes taken by a ghost writer in 2017 for Quid Pro Joe's book (Mark Zwonitzer collaborated with Quid on his memoir 'Promise Me, Dad'.)


If you read Hur's report then you know that Quid knew he had classified documents in his home at the time of meetings with the book writer .
The notes reveal something else also.
According to Hur Zwonitzer wrote that Quid was “painfully slow,” with ” limited precision and recall.” That he struggled to remember events and straining at times to read and relay his own notebook entries.

This was 3 years before the 2020 election.

[Zwonitzer deleted some tape evidence too that Hur decided to give him a pass on .But that is another discussion.]

The main point is that everyone around Quid ; his wife Jill ; all his aides ;the whole swamp leadership knew Quid was in mental decline . I'm betting Jame Clyburn ;who singlehandedly got Quid the nomination knew

They were so afraid that Bolshevik Bernie would get the nomination that they fielded a mentally challenged candidate . Then they hid Quid in the basement . To this day that is how they handle his Presidency They hide him whenever they can ;and have a spin machine ready for his many screw ups .
Shame on them.

tomder55
Feb 11, 2024, 08:21 AM
The question must be asked ..............
Is the man; who a Dem appointed prosecutor claims is too mentally incompetent to stand trial , competent enough to properly handle and deal with classified documents ;and hold nuclear codes /have his finger on the trigger ?

tomder55
Feb 12, 2024, 05:26 AM
Remember when they made fun of how Trump stored documents at Mar a Lago ? Here is one of the many photos of Quid's document handling . This is in his garage


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tomder55
Feb 12, 2024, 05:43 AM
Remember when the Dems said of Trump 'no one is above the law ' ?

jlisenbe
Feb 12, 2024, 06:15 AM
It's not a good indicator of where we are as a country. That JB is guilty is as clear as the fact that HC was guilty, and yet neither will be prosecuted. DT is in court largely because of political considerations. It's not a good look at all.

tomder55
Feb 13, 2024, 05:46 AM
and here is your morning laugh

Karine Jean-Pierre Quotes FLOTUS In Defense Of Biden’s Age: ‘His Age… Is An Incredible Asset’ (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWiLA4I0eIE)

jlisenbe
Feb 13, 2024, 06:18 AM
Nothing like appealing to a totally unbiased source! If this pres really does accomplish more in one hour that most people do in a day, then there is very little getting done in America. The outrage is that the entire press room did not break out in unrestrained laughter at such a preposterous statement.

jlisenbe
Feb 13, 2024, 03:08 PM
West Virginia AG is urging VP Harris to deem JB mentally unfit to continue as pres and step in to replace him. Of course that raises the question of how mentally fit is she?

tomder55
Feb 13, 2024, 06:16 PM
It is not up to her. Not by herself anyway . It is a complicated process that will cause another constitutional crisis

Here is sec 4 of the 25th

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

So Kam the Sham and a majority of the boot licking sycophants in the cabinet would have to declare him mentally incompetent

But Quid could challenge ;and he would resume his Presidency unless Kam the Sham and the toady cabinet again says he is incompetent . That part could take up to 4 days of Quid running the country .

If they still say he is fruit loops Kam would temporarily assume the Presidency .

It would then be up to Congress (both Houses ) to decide . If so then Congress has 21 days to play pocket pool . They would need to vote by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.

You know that 's never going to happen


Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

jlisenbe
Feb 13, 2024, 08:04 PM
Yep. You are right. Great post.

tomder55
Feb 14, 2024, 07:29 AM
The problem with Clueless Joe is not age. Kissinger had a sharp mind up until his death at the age of 100. It is his mind . He has a bad memory it is said , But his memory serves him well enough.
He remember putting Corn Pop in his place at the pool.

Joe Biden "Corn Pop" Story FULL Segment (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihV9yrZRHg)


He remembers that he did not go to the Naval Academy because Roger Staubach was the QB . So Clueless went to Delaware instead.( Yeah he actually said that )

Biden Claims He Applied To Naval Academy In 1965 … That Date Makes His Story Impossible (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuLVRy9Ooc)

He remembers that his son Beau died in Iraq.

He remembers how he attended Black churches every weekend

Members of black Delaware church don't recall Biden being 'raised' there (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2020/10/12/members-of-black-delaware-church-dont-recall-biden-being-raised-there/)


There are others . But you get the point .

tomder55
Mar 12, 2024, 01:59 PM
Hur testified to Congress. He said that Quid illegally had documents in his possession that he took while he was a Senator from a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF ) when he was a Senator .

jlisenbe
Mar 12, 2024, 02:16 PM
Hur testified to Congress. He said that Quid illegally had documents in his possession that he took while he was a Senator from a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF )Good thing his last name is not spelled T-R-U-M-P. He'd be in four different courts by now.

One can only wonder how anyone can read this information and come away with the impression that Biden is basically an honest man.

tomder55
Mar 12, 2024, 03:12 PM
He wasn't senile then either

jlisenbe
Mar 12, 2024, 03:52 PM
If Lincoln's old adage about liars needing to have a good memory is true, then Mr. Biden might be in serious trouble.

tomder55
Mar 12, 2024, 10:33 PM
Hur also gave an $8 million motive for Quid stealing the docs. Quid was going to write a book. The Hur reports cites incidents when Quid told his ghost writer that there were CLASSIFED DOCS in his house that the writer could view for reference.

tomder55
Mar 17, 2024, 04:05 AM
I was amused to see Congressional Dems hammering Hur . They said that Hur's conclusion that Quid was a senile old fart was politically motivated .

Let's forget for a second that he said that if Quid was halfway lucid ,that he probably had enough goods on Quid to charge him.

The reality is that no matter what Hur wrote into his report there was no obligation for the report to be released . That was totally up to AG Garland.

Garland could've not released it at all .He could've redacted the part about Quid's declining mental state . He could've ordered Hur to remove that section from the report .

He did none of that . Instead of their faux outrage ,Congressional Dems should have hauled Garland up to Capitol Hill to ask the AG why was it allowed to go public?

They bellyache that Hur is some MAGA holdover . Wrong. Garland appointed him . No one told Garland to do so. Hur was put in an impossible position. He must have had marching orders to not charge Quid. So he did the next best thing . He spelled out that what Quid has been doing for 15 years is a crime . He then found a way to follow orders .
So again the question is why was the report released as it was ? ?

I have some unprovable thoughts. The puppet master (aka the emperor) wants to plow the field and make way for his hand picked replacement (aka Madam Defarge Obama) . Garland is the convenient intermediary who owes the emperor . Let's not forget that the emperor wanted Garland to be in SCOTUS . Oh what mischief he could've wrought ! Instead he was given the one role in the administration where he is semi-independent of Quid's decisions .

In doing this he made sure he was one step removed when applying the Comey doctrine . ("no reasonable prosecutor would charge" ) Comey put the burden on himself . The weasel Garland can take a hands off approach and say it was Hur's call . But it never was.

tomder55
May 17, 2024, 05:07 AM
Congress wants to know why if both Trump and Quid allegedly illegally retained documents then why is only Trump being charged .

As noted above Prosecutor Robert Hur contended that Quid was a feeble senile old fart that a jury would find too pathetic to convict .

Congress is asking for proof . They want the tape of the meeting between Hur and Quid.

Now you would think that the Dems would want the proof revealed before the election . Quid was sure po'ed over the contention . Every Dem that has contact with him claims he is lucid . Indeed he gives that impression in public appearances when they have to foresight to give him some Kickapoo joy juice before unleashing him.

You would think the public seeing the proof would end the discussion ( then again ;if he is able to stand trial the question remains ;why Trump and not Quid? )

Under pressure the WH released the so called transcripts of the meeting (redacted by DOJ) .

Recorded Interview: Robert Hur, President Biden Transcript | U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Democrats (https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=5273)

But that is a poor substitute to hearing the audio or seeing a video .

Flashback April 11 ,1974 Richard Nixon under pressure from the House Judiciary Committee released transcripts of his secretly recorded tapes from the Oval office. They were not satisfied and took him to court . SCOTUS eventually ordered the tapes be surrendered .

Yesterday Quid invoked executive privilege as a reason for not releasing the audio.


Because of the President’s longstanding commitment to protecting the integrity, effectiveness, and independence of the Department of Justice and its law enforcement investigations, he has decided to assert executive privilege over the recordings

Biden invokes executive privilege on special counsel recording demanded by GOP (yahoo.com) (https://sg.news.yahoo.com/biden-invokes-executive-privilege-special-124710616.html)

Why then were the transcripts released ? He waived executive privilege by their release . The interview didn’t concern his current duties or deliberations. It concerned his handling of documents while in the Senate, as Vice President, or as a private citizen. So there is no cause for invoking privilege.

The claim that it protects the DOJ doesn't fly either . This is an investigation they already closed. So it does nothing to interfere in their work. As for the cynical claim that the Repubs want it for political reasons ;all I have to say is DUH ! If the taped reveal that Quid is a zombie then yeah it will embarrass him politically . Are they claiming that the lawfare campaign against Trump doesn't have a heavy dose of politics related ?

Or maybe they want to hide the fact that the audio doesn't match what's in the transcripts ????????? Hmmmmmmm !!!

jlisenbe
May 17, 2024, 06:34 AM
Tom, you are making the mistake of thinking that we are still operating under the rule of law.


Every Dem that has contact with him claims he is lucid . Indeed he gives that impression in public appearances when they have to foresight to give him some Kickapoo joy juice before unleashing him.It will be Trump's assignment in the two debates to make sure the American people see the mental decline that Biden is in the midst of. Can he do it? I am not at all convinced he can.

tomder55
May 17, 2024, 07:50 AM
The House Judiciary Committee voted 18-15 to send contempt of Congress charges to the full House for AG Garland defying the tape subpoena .

He apparently thinks that Congress cannot hold the Justice Dept accountable if they defy Congress subpoenas .

This happens days after prosecutors want Steve Bannon to report for jail for his contempt conviction for ignoring a subpoena. This happens after a few weeks of Peter Navarro reporting to prison to serve his sentence for being guilty of contempt of Congress.

tomder55
May 21, 2024, 04:56 AM
James Burnham at WSJ yesterday makes my comparison to the Nixon tapes better than I did .


"Joe Biden (https://www.wsj.com/topics/person/joe-biden) was sworn into the Senate in 1973, the year before Richard Nixon resigned the presidency. Apparently the young senator was taking notes. Mr. Biden echoed his predecessor last week by claiming executive privilege over tapes of an important presidential discussion. The current president’s argument, however, is much weaker.
Special counsel Robert Hur interviewed the president in October about Mr. Biden’s handling of classified material during his time as a senator, vice president and private citizen. Mr. Hur recorded the conversation to prepare a transcript, which was subsequently released to the public. The House now wants the audio file, and two committees have subpoenaed it. Despite releasing the transcripts, the Biden administration has invoked executive privilege to conceal the tapes.
The assertion of privilege isn’t based on the interview subject’s status as president. The Supreme Court explained in U.S. v. Nixon (1974) that executive privilege pertains to “presidential communications in the exercise of Art. II powers.” Mr. Hur spoke with Mr. Biden about his personal conduct before his inauguration, meaning presidential communications weren’t at issue.
Mr. Biden has instead claimed, at Attorney General Garland’s request (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018f-813a-d017-a39f-d1bf35110000#page=4), that he can assert privilege over the Justice Department’s “law enforcement functions (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018f-8149-d166-a5af-df5b358d0001).” That is how the president justifies concealing not only the tapes of his interview with Mr. Hur but also those of his ghostwriter, Mark Zwonitzer, a private citizen.
Whatever the application of executive privilege to Justice Department investigations of private citizens, it can’t be used to conceal tapes after transcripts have been released. Mr. Biden waived whatever privilege might protect these interviews when he released their contents in full.
In arguing to the contrary, Messrs. Biden and Garland rely on a 2008 opinion (https://www.justice.gov/file/523056/dl) by Attorney General Michael Mukasey deeming privileged certain interviews by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. But the contents of those interviews—concerning high-level White House discussions—were confidential. Mr. Mukasey asserted privilege over information, not audio recordings.
Mr. Garland cites a handful of judicial decisions that purport to establish a distinction between audio recordings and transcripts, but none support his attempt to withhold the tapes from Congress. How public-records law applies to recordings of astronauts in the Challenger disaster, or how the common-law right of access applies to video depositions of President Clinton in a criminal case involving others, tells us little about the present context.
Ironically, Mr. Garland invokes Richard Nixon, supporting the former president’s argument in Nixon v. Warner Communications (1978) that the press didn’t have a legal right to obtain tapes that had been admitted into evidence at a trial for some of his former advisers.
The attorney general claims that asserting privilege over the audio recordings is necessary to protect the integrity of criminal investigations. But we already know what Messrs. Biden and Zwonitzer said based on the transcripts. Even if releasing an audio recording could harm some hypothetical criminal case, that isn’t at issue here. The investigation is over and the case is closed. Besides, Congress has a strong legislative interest in ensuring that the department it created is enforcing with integrity the criminal statutes it enacted.
Mr. Garland claims that concealing the tapes is necessary to ensure future witnesses cooperate with investigations. Yet it’s unlikely that anyone would agree to transcriptions but not audio recordings. Even if that were the case, it wouldn’t undermine future investigations. The Federal Bureau of Investigation hardly needs recordings to do its work and routinely relies on agent-written summaries of interviews.
Further, the Justice Department doesn’t rely on strangers’ munificence or let witnesses dictate the terms of its investigations. It relies on compulsory process. When several White House staffers and I sat for interviews with special counsel Robert Mueller’s attorneys during their investigation of the Trump administration, we weren’t doing them a favor. We sought to avoid being summoned to a grand jury.
Mr. Biden’s parallels with Nixon extend further. In resisting disclosure of his recordings, Nixon lamented (https://www.nytimes.com/1974/04/30/archives/nixon-will-give-edited-tape-transcripts-on-watergate-to-house-and.html) that they “will be seized upon by my political and journalistic opponents.” Mr. Biden has likewise justified his stonewalling by claiming that the tapes would be used “for partisan purposes.” But fear of political consequences isn’t a legitimate basis to refuse compliance with a congressional subpoena, then or now.
Finally, the administration’s justification for defying congressional subpoenas stands in uneasy contrast with its prosecution of political opponents for similar conduct. The Justice Department prosecuted Trump aides Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro for criminal contempt because they refused to comply with congressional subpoenas on grounds of executive privilege. Save for a handful of guilty pleas in recent decades, these were the first prosecutions for contempt of Congress in roughly 40 years (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10660).
Mr. Biden’s refusal to release the tapes is another maneuver that is difficult to square with the administration’s claimed embrace of the “longstanding norms regarding the Department’s independence.” The long-term consequences of this gambit are uncertain, but for now Congress and, if necessary, the courts, must swiftly reject it. If Nixon had to produce the tapes, so does Mr. Biden."
Mr. Burnham served as senior associate counsel to the president (2017), deputy assistant attorney general (2018-20) and counselor to the attorney general (2020). He is now the principal at King Street Legal PLLC.

Biden, Nixon and the Hur Report - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-nixon-and-the-hur-report-executive-privilege-testimony-9ad0bee7?mod=opinion_lead_pos8)

tomder55
May 25, 2024, 12:31 PM
Speaking of elder abuse ;the WH sent Joe out to Detroit last week to address the NAACP . There is a video showing a juiced up Joe rambling through a speech that the WH had to amend the transcript 9 times to correct his errors .

President Biden speaks at NAACP Fight for Freedom Fund Dinner (youtube.com) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-5kdMAzCeE)

see all the corrections here .

Remarks by President Biden at a Campaign Event | Detroit, MI | The White House (archive.org) (https://web.archive.org/web/20240523123014/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2024/05/19/remarks-by-president-biden-at-a-campaign-event-detroit-mi-2/)

"My dad was an automobile manager. Detroit put food on our table every night. Oh, not a joke. Not a joke. And when I was vice president, things were kinda bad during the pandemic. And what happened was, Barack said to me, 'Go to Detroit! And help fix it.' Well, [the] poor mayor, he spent more time with me than he ever thought he was gonna have to."

Here is the WH correction
And when I was vice president, things were kind of bad during the pandemic [recession], and what happened was Barack said to me, “Go to Detroit and help fix it.” Well, poor mayor, he spent more time with me than he ever thought he was going to have to. (Laughter.) God love you.

tomder55
May 31, 2024, 03:07 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GO25_kvWcAAgkFT?format=jpg&name=small

tomder55
Jun 4, 2024, 01:57 AM
(Disclaimer ...... this is not a comedy parody by Babylon Bee )

Here is the latest excuse the DOJ made for not releasing the audio of the Quid Pro Joe interviews with Robert Hur .. (I kid you not )

(page 15) Thank you Bradley Weisenheimer ...... ooops I mean Weinsheimer for the belly laugh

Weinsheimer Decl., Judicial Watch v DOJ (24-700), v7.3 (final).pdf (politico.com) (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018f-d4c1-d6a3-a18f-d6fb6a3a0000)

"The passage of time and advancements in audio, artificial intelligence, and ‘deep fake’ technologies only amplify concerns about malicious manipulation of audio files. If the audio recording is released here, it is easy to foresee that it could be improperly altered, and that the altered file could be passed off as an authentic recording and widely distributed,"


That ship has already sailed . Quid is already a deep fake. If they want to prevent someone from making AI deep fakes of Quid they should prevent him from opening his mouth.

jlisenbe
Jun 4, 2024, 05:57 AM
If the audio recording is released here, it is easy to foresee that it could be improperly altered, and that the altered file could be passed off as an authentic recording and widely distributed,"
When I read excuses like this, I become even more convinced that the American people have become either hopeless or lazy enough to just believe anything. Or at least that's what Weinsheimer and his ilk want to think. After all, if what he says is true, then wouldn't it be true for ALL video files? But that doesn't seem to have stopped people from using videos.

tomder55
Jun 4, 2024, 06:16 AM
and it has not stopped them from letting Clueless Joe have public appearances. The sad truth is that it does not take AI or any special skill to invent Joe's misstatements and incoherent thoughts. The obvious purpose of those skill sets would be to change anything he says into an intelligent observation ;just like when the White House edits the comments he made and inserts what they believe would've been the comments of the President without the oatmeal drool coming down his chin.

Wondergirl
Jun 4, 2024, 10:47 AM
"Joe's misstatements and incoherent thoughts."

Joe's??? Have you listened to Trump talk??? With McDonald's drool leaking out of the corners of his mouth??? (A typical dinner order for Trump consisted of “two Big Macs, two Filet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted shake".)

Talk about incoherent and misleading! Why is TRUMP running loose???

tomder55
Jun 4, 2024, 11:15 AM
Clearly in Trump's case it is the government through the justice system that is preventing his 1st amendment right to speech . Judge Merchan fined him 10 times for things Trump said that he did not like . Jack Smith is trying to get Judge Cannon to impose similar restrictions on him.
He also has gag orders on him in the DC case .
There are no gag orders per se in the Georgia case. But he could forfeit his bond if he tried to communicate with fellow co-defendants .

In this case the DOJ has already released an alleged transcript of his meetings with Hur . Congress wants more. I will remind you that Nixon tried to release transcripts of his Oval Office recordings during Watergate . NOBODY agreed that was sufficient. The tapes had to be produced after SCOTUS ordered it . Not surprisingly it was not the transcripts that did him in ;it was the audio on the tapes.

For the DOJ to claim that the tapes should not be handed over because some hacker could use AI to alter them is just about the lamest thing I have heard in years. The only real purpose for it would be to make Joe sound coherent .

White House makes nine brutal corrections to Biden NAACP Detroit speech (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2024/05/21/us-news/white-house-makes-nine-brutal-corrections-to-biden-naacp-detroit-speech/)