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jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 09:09 PM
This can't be good news for dad, especially if it turns out to be, as seems likely, merely the tip of the iceberg. I can see this snowballing into dad deciding not to run.


President Biden's son Hunter Biden (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-ex-business-associate-blasts-bidens-new-claim-sons-business-dealings-malarkey) was indicted in California Thursday on a litany of tax charges, according to documents made public.
The indictment Hunter Biden's failure to pay nearly $200,000 of income tax in the year 2019.


Special Counsel David Weiss has been using a federal grand jury in Los Angeles to gather evidence of possible criminal tax charges against Hunter Biden.



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-faces-new-indictment-california

tomder55
Dec 8, 2023, 04:22 AM
A slap on the wrist . At most he will be fined . Meanwhile it takes the heat off of Quid. It also means that the Justice Dept can continue to stonewall in Congressional hearing saying they can't comment on an ongoing investigation yada yada .

jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 08:43 AM
According to FoxNews, it's all about evading taxes to the tune of 1.4 mil and he could face 15 years. I wonder if he ends up turning state's evidence on dad as part of a deal?

tomder55
Dec 8, 2023, 10:57 AM
not likely This prosecutor Weiss was the same one that was going to allow a plea deal on gun charges . The only reason that didn't go down was because the judge started questioning the deal ;and then Hunter refused the deal when it was revealed that he was not immune from other charges

So then AG Garland decides to appoint the same prosecutor as special council . Cute . There is where the case would've died except for the fact that there were now IRS whistleblowers telling Congress that the Justice Dept stonewalled the Hunter investigations with the goal of getting past the statute of limitations .

Under the circumstances these charges are the least that can be brought up .They have no choice . Hunter did not pay his taxes .Hunter falsified returns on the year he actually paid them . When his taxes were paid ;a business associate paid them because the money owed the IRS was spent on drugs and prostitutes .

Look for this narrative going forward . Hunter is being politically persecuted by the Repubs .


I don't know the time line going forward except that I am certain that Quid being the Pres will before he leaves office or before Hunter goes to jail or pays any penalty ; pardon Hunter because he is the victim of a political witch hunt.

yeah they will adopt Trump's rhetoric verbatim .

jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 11:24 AM
There is no winning hand for the Bidens. If they treat him with kid gloves, there will be an outraged voting public, or at least many of them will be. If they are honest in applying the law, HB will begin to sweat and who knows what will happen then. Having gone public and brought the charges, Weiss has put himself in something of a hole.

tomder55
Dec 8, 2023, 11:55 AM
Weiss had no choice . Given what the whistleblowers revealed he would risk his career by not indicting .


The DOJ now has another reason for not handing over subpoenaed docs to the Repubs in the House impeachment inquiry (ongoing court proceedings )

Meanwhile clowns like Poppy Harlow at CNN are already saying that in a 56 pge indictment ;Quid was not mentioned once.......and yet the Repubs continue to use Hunter Biden's business as a pretext for impeachment .

CNN.com - Transcripts (https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/ctmo/date/2023-12-08/segment/03)
BTW
good luck finding a jury willing to convict him in LA

jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 11:59 AM
If the evidence makes his guilt obvious, then not convicting him carries more political danger than convicting him.

tomder55
Dec 9, 2023, 04:45 AM
The numbers seem off to me . The income was more than $20 million from foreign sources. Seems some of that was overlooked.

Also there are no charges about not being a registered foreign agent. Manafort (spent time in solitary confinement) and Gates went to jail for that. The charges don't address repayment of loans that did not exist in the Biden Crime Family laundering model.

As often times when Quid or his crime family is in hot water the DOJ goes into damage control. How many times have raids on political opponent's homes happened when Quid needed a distraction ?

These indictments would not have gone down at this time except for the fact that the Congressional Repubs want Hunter in a private sit down interview with their attorneys . Now; document along with testimony can be withheld because of an ongoing criminal proceeding . He can now plead the 5th for the same reason.

Convicted or not ;I still predict he won't spend a day in jail .....and will be pardoned by Quid before he leaves office. The precedent is the Nixon pardon. He was pardoned before any charges were even filed.

tomder55
Dec 9, 2023, 05:06 AM
Abbe Lowell, is Hunters lawyer . He is already spinning that had Hunter any other name but Biden ;that he would not have been charged . That will soon by the Dem narrative.

Interested to see if Newsom's California follows up with their own charges for violating a state income tax that is the highest in the land .(13.3%)
Does a snow ball have a chance in hell ?

jlisenbe
Dec 9, 2023, 06:37 AM
He is already spinning that had Hunter any other name but Biden ;that he would not have been charged . That will soon by the Dem narrative.The level of audacious lying here is really stunning, but the Nazis demonstrated that if you're going to lie, you have to go all in to make it believable. It doesn't surprise me at all that they are lying. It's rather shocking that so many people are willing to believe it all.

tomder55
Dec 14, 2023, 05:27 AM
Hunter Biden yesterday refused to testify in closed Congressional session . Instead he stood outside of the Senate (not the House where the Sergeant-at Arms has authority to arrest him ); and demanded to testify in public.

There is of course a clear difference between public testimony ;which is often a zoo review as lawmakers trip over themselves looking for camera time during their 5 minute "questioning" period; and a privately held session.

In private testimony Hunter would be quizzed by Congressional lawyers in what is essentially a deposition. There is no time limit placed or the manner of questions asked.

It is a good ploy if he can get away with it. (and I suspect he will ) James Comer threatened contempt charges and I hope he follows through.

Donald Trump Jr sat through 5 separate sessions with the Dem controlled Congress. Just imagine what would've happened if he defied them . The compliant press yesterday gave him the pass telling their sheeple that there is nothing there there.

jlisenbe
Dec 14, 2023, 05:50 AM
The hypocrisy of this whole thing is just stunning. What is fine for some people (liberal dems) is a gross breach of morality for others (conservatives).

tomder55
Dec 14, 2023, 06:03 AM
This is actually an interesting development for another reason. Quid's stratergy to date was Sergeant Schultz 'I know nuthink ' ;and to downplay and dismiss Hunter's business dealings .

Hunter getting on the soap box yesterday is a break from that plan.He linked it back to the impeachment inquiry.
Comer said ,as the House was voting to continue their impeachment inquiry "Today's obstruction by Hunter Biden reinforces the need for a formal vote"

tomder55
May 10, 2024, 03:39 AM
A Federal appeals judge denied Hunter's motion to have his sweet heart gun deal reinstated . He will have to face trial for the charges.

This of course is a drop in the bucket compared to his part in the Biden Crime family
It also puts conservatives who are 2nd amendment absolutists in a corner

Federal appeals court refuses to dismiss Hunter Biden's gun charges (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/09/hunter-biden-gun-charges-appeal/73629996007/)


Last year Clarence Thomas wrote in a 2nd Amendment case ; ““When the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct,” “The government must then justify its regulation by demonstrating that it is consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation. Only then may a court conclude that the individual’s conduct falls outside the Second Amendment’s unqualified command.”
20-843 New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. v. Bruen (06/23/2022) (supremecourt.gov) (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf)

Thomas' history-and-tradition test has been used to overturn gun possession laws across the country .

Hunter's lawyers have used the decision to challenge his gun law violations . In fact one of the specific charges against Hunter has already been declared unconstitutional

Federal appeals court strikes down law prohibiting users of illegal drugs from possessing firearms | CNN Politics (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/appeals-court-firearms-illegal-drug-users/index.html)

It would be ironic if Hunter's case went to SCOTUS and conservative justices rule in his favor ;especially since Clueless Joe has been critical of SCOTUS 2nd amendment decisions .

tomder55
Jun 3, 2024, 03:24 AM
The jury selection for Hunter Biden's trial on gun charges begins today . What ? This is not front page news ? Imagin that .

They will get him on the gun charges because the Dems hate the 2nd amendment . So this is low fruit.

Check out the headlines from the NY Slimes and others from the compliant press

Hunter Biden to Go on Trial in Gun Case, Days After Trump Was Convicted - The New York Times (nytimes.com) (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/02/us/politics/hunter-biden-gun-trial-delaware.html)

Hunter Biden Criminal Trial Begins in Aftermath of Trump Conviction (usnews.com) (https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2024-06-03/hunter-biden-criminal-trial-begins-in-aftermath-of-trump-conviction)

Days after Trump's guilty verdict, Hunter Biden heads to court (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/trump-guilty-verdict-hunter-biden-court-gun-rcna154487)

Hunter Biden criminal trial begins in aftermath of Trump conviction | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/legal/hunter-biden-criminal-trial-begins-aftermath-trump-conviction-2024-06-03/)

jlisenbe
Jun 3, 2024, 04:53 AM
Hunter Biden is doubtless guilty of many things, but this silliness (lying about his use of illegal drugs when he bought a Colt Cobra .38-caliber revolver and with illegally possessing the weapon for 11 days in October 2018) is yet another example of a waste of federal resources. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dope smokers check "no" when they buy a gun?

tomder55
Jun 4, 2024, 11:31 AM
I have been puzzled about why Hunter did not cop a plea in this gun case. The evidence is slam dunk. There cannot be any doubt ;reasonable or not ; that he did what he is charged with.

Then I was hearing today how the First Lady sat in court today during jury selection .


Jill Biden was a powerful presence on Monday in the courtroom. As the jury selection process got underway, she could be seen paying rapt attention and taking notes as well as frequently whispering to the women by her side. During breaks, she would wait for Hunter Biden to leave the defense table and give him a hug before exiting the room.

It was apparent that the first lady’s stature was that of any ordinary relative of a defendant. She got up, with everyone else in the courtroom, to “All rise”when U.S. District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika entered.

By the afternoon on Monday, a diverse jury had been selected. The first lady sat across from everyday Delaware citizens who would soon decide her son’s fate.


Jill Biden emerges as a fierce protector of Hunter Biden (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/06/04/jill-biden-protector-hunter-biden/73965861007/)

Then it occured to me .

James Comey ...... no reasonable prosecutor would charge Evita

Robert Hur ..... no reasonable jury would convict Quid Pro Joe

The defense strategy is jury nullification. There is not a jury in Delaware that would convict a Biden.

There is not a jury in Delaware that would convict a Biden.
In the end the line will be yada yada no one is above the law yada yada Hunter was acquitted by a jury of his peers yada yada yada

tomder55
Jun 4, 2024, 04:56 PM
Hey remember that laptop that the whole intel community claimed was Russian disinformation in the run up to the 2020 election ;that Clueless Joe used the intel assessment as a talking point in his debate with Trump ?????

Well guess what ? The prosecution in the Hunter Biden gun trial has the laptop sealed in plastic as exhibit #16 as evidence against Hunter .


Attorneys for Hunter Biden had previously attempted to preclude the laptop as evidence, arguing that they have "numerous reasons to believe the data had been altered and compromised before investigators obtained the electronic material."
But in his response on Wednesday, Weiss claimed that Biden "has not provided any evidence or information that shows that his laptop contains false information, and the government's evidence shows the opposite."
"Any argument that suggests his laptop is not authentic would be inappropriate because there is no foundation for such questioning, and it risks creating juror confusion about the evidence actually at issue in this case," Weiss wrote.



Special counsel plans to use infamous laptop as evidence in Hunter Biden's firearm trial - ABC News (go.com) (https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-plans-infamous-laptop-evidence-hunter-bidens/story?id=110478486)

jlisenbe
Jun 4, 2024, 07:58 PM
If the Delaware jury lets HB off the hook, it will all work to Trump's benefit by making the kangaroo nature of these two trials seem clearly apparent.

tomder55
Jun 5, 2024, 02:21 AM
I am leaning on nullification. This case doesn't make sense otherwise. 1st time offender with the facts on prosecution side begs for a plea deal. The facts clearly are on the side of the prosecution. But Hunter has a really good lawyer on his side. Abbe Lowell is a well respected lawyer who has represented high profile politicians since his days in the Carter administration .He defended Ivanka Trump Jared Kushner while they were in the White House. He got John Edwards off of a campaign finance violation charge that was prosecuted by Jack Smith. He was on the Bubba impeachment defense .

Lowell, Abbe David | Winston & Strawn (https://www.winston.com/en/professionals/lowell-abbe-david)



He will play the sympathy card . Hunter is the only remaining son of a President who lost his family in a car wreck and one son due to toxic exposure while serving in the military in Iraq. These tragedies affected Hunter and contributed to his addictions.

His opening salvo is that the false statement had to be made knowingly. But Hunter was a druggie and that affected him .Accordingly ;Hunter was in and out of rehab .At the time he genuinely believed he was clean.

Drug addiction and those affected by it played a key role in jury selection.

Prosecution has already blundered by allowing the jury to hear a excerpt of Hunter's audio book where he describes his descent into addiction following the death of Beau (the Biden family plays the 'Beau card' for all it's worth). Hunter's sister sitting in attendance was crying . The jury saw that too.

Now to the prosecution the audio represents an admission of guilt. But what will the jury do with it ?

Any way Hunter gets off will prove a two tier system . But I don't believe the President would allow Hunter to go to trial unless he had a card up his sleeve.

tomder55
Jun 6, 2024, 03:52 PM
lol NYC is going to take gun actions against Trump .

Before he was charged he had a conceal and carry permit. But being a convicted criminal he no longer has the right in NY . He already surrendered 2 guns

But a 3rd gun is to him a collector piece ...... allegedly a Glock 19 with a picture of him on it .

He transferred the gun to Florida. But Federal and State law says he cannot own it as a convicted criminal. So NY is in the process of revoking his license .

The compliant press is creaming in their pants over the prospect.

lol NYC is going to take gun actions against Trump .

Before he was charged he had a conceal and carry permit. But being a convicted criminal he no longer has the right in NY . He already surrendered 2 guns

But a 3rd gun is to him a collector piece ...... allegedly a Glock 19 with a picture of him on it .

He transferred the gun to Florida. But Federal and State law says he cannot own it as a convicted criminal. So NY is in the process of revoking his license .

The compliant press is creaming in their pants over the prospect.

lol NYC is going to take gun actions against Trump .

Before he was charged he had a conceal and carry permit. But being a convicted criminal he no longer has the right in NY . He already surrendered 2 guns

But a 3rd gun is to him a collector piece ...... allegedly a Glock 19 with a picture of him on it .

He transferred the gun to Florida. But Federal and State law says he cannot own it as a convicted criminal. So NY is in the process of revoking his license .

The compliant press is creaming in their pants over the prospect.

tomder55
Jun 10, 2024, 12:20 PM
Closing arguments in the Hunter Biden gun case will begin. Defense lawyer Abbee Lowell says that the prosecution is doing a magic act illusion by getting the jury to focus on Hunter's years as a crack head . He claims Hunter was clean and sober when he purchased the gun and that therefore Hunter was truthful when filling out the purchase form.

Magicians are good at it . Maybe they tell you they are going to pick a card off the pile ;point to it ;and when you are focused on the card they with sleigh of hand palm another one.

The Biden team may be the masters of the prestige . They have us focused on Hunter's drugs and the relatively minor charges related to the gun .Meanwhile more serious crimes are being overlooked that not only involve Hunter ;but the whole Biden family criminal enterprise. What is the bigger crime ; gun charges or traitorously selling out the nation for pieces of silver ?



Look over there ! Hunter's laptop have naked pictures !!!! You see ;we don't treat the Biden family different ! No one is above the law ;even the President's son who has had a tragic life losing his mother and brother early in his life. Yes drug addiction is bad ;but who could blame him ?

This is a recipe for a hung jury or a nullification . How could such a poor soul be guilty ? In Delaware the Biden family is as close to the equivalent to the House of Windsor as they come .
The compliant press speaks of Joe's uncompromising love of Hunter . Jill Biden criss crossed the Atlantic Ocean to do her duties as First Lady and to support Hunter in court .It's all part of the illusion.

You see ? The DOJ brought Federal charges against a Biden . You can't say they show favoritism .Meanwhile they sabotaged real charges against the Biden crime family .

Many of the worse offenses they have let slide past the statute of limitations .

The beauty of this is that many conservatives think it is Hunter's constitutional right to buy and own a gun. Why aren't they hoping for an acquittal too ?

tomder55
Jun 12, 2024, 04:48 AM
Now that he is convicted of gun charges what should Hunter do ? If I were him I would appeal the conviction on 2nd amendment grounds (oh the irony as Clueless Joe wants to strip us of 2nd amendment protections. )

His lawyers tried the absurd claim that he purchased the gun in the narrow time between addiction relapses.

They tried to claim that prosecution must prove he used drugs on the day of the purchase.
gov.uscourts.ded.82797.149.0.pdf (courtlistener.com) (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.149.0.pdf)

What nonsense !!

They had him dead to right on the statutory law .His only defense is his constitutional right to own the gun.


He might also challenge on due process grounds in that he was selectively prosecuted . How many people who are druggies own guns ? I'm guessing the numbers run in the multi-millions .

But prosecutions are comparatively rare .

gov.uscourts.ded.82797.149.0.pdf (courtlistener.com) (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.149.0.pdf)

He may be able to argue he was chosen for political reasons .

And what about sentencing ?

Well his old man's tough gun control laws (like the one he touted in his speech yesterday makes it more likely he will get a harsh sentence.

S.2938 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Bipartisan Safer Communities Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2938)


Clueless Joe is one contradiction after another. He says pot users are not dangerous so pot should be decriminalized. Yet his laws say that pot users are too dangerous to own guns.

SCOTUS has been ruling in favor of 2nd amendment rights . Hunter should go for it .

tomder55
Jun 12, 2024, 07:07 AM
One more thing Joe has said he will not pardon Hunter. Wait until after sentencing . As with most things about Quid ;pay attention to what he does ,not what he says .

I expect he will wait until mid November when a pardon won't affect the outcome of the election. He can include Hunter in his Thanksgiving Turkey pardons.

jlisenbe
Jun 12, 2024, 09:41 AM
He might also challenge on due process grounds in that he was selectively prosecuted .Trump should consider the same approach.


He may be able to argue he was chosen for political reasons .Ditto for Trump.

tomder55
Jun 12, 2024, 11:56 AM
I'd just love seeing Joe's DOJ argue to SCOTUS why the conviction of the President's son should stand ;and Hunter 's lawyers arguing why 'tough on Crime 'Joe's laws are unconstitutional .

I am pretty sure Trump's team has appeals for many constitutional violations including 14th amendment equal protection issues ;a host of other constitutional violations ;and statutory issues including a simple one like the primary jurisdiction doctrine regarding the lack of authority of Bragg to prosecute a Federal Election law case .



The doctrine of primary jurisdiction applies where a claim can originally be addressed in a court but would be better addressed first by an administrative body[i].

Primary Jurisdiction Doctrine – Administrative Laws (uslegal.com) (https://administrativelaw.uslegal.com/judicial-review-of-administrative-decisions/primary-jurisdiction-doctrine/)

In this case the FEC already had dealt with the possibilty of Trump violating campaign finance laws and had decided there was no case.

jlisenbe
Jun 12, 2024, 07:55 PM
I don't know that I'm surprised that HB was found guilty. I think the sentencing phase is where the rubber will meet the road. I don't expect him to ever spend a day in jail. I'm not even convinced he should, considering the relative lack of seriousness surrounding the charge against him.

Am I wrong, or won't he also be facing tax evasion charges at some point in the future?

tomder55
Jun 12, 2024, 10:56 PM
yes in September in California .