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tomder55
Dec 6, 2023, 05:01 AM
The compliant press recently have been playing the "dictator card " ;warning about a possible Trump 2nd term
Cheney: U.S. 'sleepwalking into dictatorship' if Trump wins (ny1.com) (https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2023/12/04/liz-cheney--u-s---sleepwalking-into-dictatorship--if-trump-reelected)
Is Trump running for dictator? | TPR (https://www.tpr.org/podcast/the-source/2023-12-05/is-trump-running-for-dictator)
Trump’s Recipe for a Shockingly Raw Power Grab - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/11/07/trump-power-grab-00125767)
Neocon Robert Kagan of the Compost writes
"Will his presidency turn into a dictatorship? The odds are, again, pretty good."
Opinion | Would Trump be a dictator? And can he be stopped? - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/30/trump-dictator-2024-election-robert-kagan/)
This in the wake of a Clueless Joe presidency who has used executive action more than any before him.
The Atlantic (subscription required ) took this trend to new levels . Their new issue released yesterday devotes the entire issue to a Trump dictatorship.
Trump and Trumpism pose an existential threat to America and to the ideas that animate it. With each writer focusing on their subject area of expertise, the issue argues that assuming a second term would mirror the first is a mistake: The threats to democracy will be greater, as will the danger of authoritarianism and corruption. A second Trump presidency, the opening essay states, would mark the turn onto a dark path, one of those rips between “before” and “after” that a society can never reverse.
The Atlantic's Jan/Feb issue: Next Trump presidency - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/archive/2023/12/atlantics-janfeb-issue-next-trump-presidency/676227/)
David Frum (former speech writer for GW Bush) argues that "A second Trump term would instantly plunge the country into a constitutional crisis more terrible than anything seen since the Civil War.”
The Danger Ahead - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/donald-trump-reelection-second-term-agenda/676119/)
I will be interested to see who in tonight's Repub debate will challenge this narrative . Besides perhaps Vivek I do not think they will . Christie agrees with it . Nikki couches it in terms like 'chaos ' . DeSantis ? maybe.
I think it would be wise for any Repub candidate to take on the compliant press corruption . The 4th Estate has become the 5th Column ,They have become the propaganda tool of the deep state ;a role that should never be condoned in a free society
tomder55
Dec 6, 2023, 08:09 AM
Here is another one of the brilliant essays in 'Atlantic ' courtesy of MSN
The Truth Won’t Matter (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-truth-won-t-matter/ar-AA1l57NE)
and another one from 'Salon'
Trump is hiding his fascist plans in plain sight | Salon.com (https://www.salon.com/2023/12/06/is-hiding-his-fascist-plans-in-plain-sight/)
The Economist
Donald Trump poses the biggest danger to the world in 2024 | Nov 18th 2023 | The Economist (https://www.economist.com/weeklyedition/2023-11-18)
The Guardian
A second Trump term will be far more autocratic than the first. He’s telling us | Jan-Werner Müller | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/04/a-second-trump-term-will-be-far-more-autocratic-than-the-first-hes-telling-us)
Vanity Fair
Donald Trump Isn’t Even Trying to Hide His Authoritarian Second-Term Plans | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/11/donald-trump-authoritarian-second-term)
Politico
Trump Is an Authoritarian. So Are Millions of Americans - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/23/trump-america-authoritarianism-420681)
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 08:48 AM
Strange how The Atlantic could title an article, "The Truth Won't Matter," but then include material that is not true.
The president’s gut would go on to inform him that climate change is partisan propaganda (Well, is it?); that COVID-19 might be cured through the injection of bleach (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/trump-bleach-coronavirus/610690/?utm_source=msn) (Except that Trump did not allege that was true); that any election that fails to produce a Trump victory must be rigged (He has never suggested that). Trump gut-trusted the nation into political crisis. (What political crisis are they referring to? Perhaps the one where the HC campaign falsely claimed a Russian election interference had taken place?)
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 10:43 AM
Trump wants power. He wants to be Putin the Second, even Hitler the Second.
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 11:16 AM
He was in office for four years. He did not become Putin or Hitler. Case closed, is it not?
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 12:11 PM
Nope. He was on his way. (Remember, he didn't want to give up the office to someone else.) Plus now he's determined to RULE, had interacted with powerful world leaders and dictators while he was president. He wants to be president again and actually make it happen, become a powerful dictator!
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 12:23 PM
Nope. He was on his way. (Remember, he didn't want to give up the office to someone else.)So that's it? He didn't WANT to give up the office, but he did and did so peacefully. So while he didn't authorize the feds breaking into his opponent's house and seizing documents, or used the power of the federal government to spread a wild rumor about supposed Russian interference in the election, or have his spouse meet with the sitting attorney general to make sure charges would not be brought against him, or met with "powerful world leaders and dictators" (which all presidents have done), you still know he was "on his way" because he did something, but he didn't WANT to do it?
Well...OK. Perhaps Webster should use your response as an example of TDS?
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 01:07 PM
PEACEFULLY??? All we've heard from him is yowling about how he was cheated when he was deprived of continuing as president. Woe to us if he is elected again.
TDS!!! Ha! You worship him more devotedly than you do your Creator.
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 01:28 PM
All we've heard from him is yowling about how he was cheated when he was deprived of continuing as president. Woe to us if he is elected again.About the only yowling I'm hearing is from you. You get mad when your posts are questioned.
TDS!!! Ha! You worship him more devotedly than you do your Creator.That comment comes from the one who claims to believe in civility here. At any rate, I've stated many times that I despise his big mouth and his lack of preparation for debates. I would much prefer DeSantis, Haley, Carson, or any one of several others, but I'm not going to start lying about his record.
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 02:40 PM
He's a joke!!! He can't even speak understandably, coherently.
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 02:56 PM
He's a joke!!! He can't even speak understandably, coherently.Wait, now. We're not talking about Biden. This thread is about Trump. I'll grant you, it's an easy mistake to make.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_wlQZ5N_2k
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 03:03 PM
And Trump is fat, ugly, has a greasy orange face and neck. Don't even ask me about his hair.
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 07:20 PM
I never cease to be amazed at the vitriolic hatred tossed towards Trump by liberal dems who supposedly believe in civility, tolerance and inclusion. It's not enough merely to disagree with his policies. It has to become personal and include, "fat, ugly...greasy orange face and neck...hair...can't even speak understandably, coherently." And of course he is trying to become a Putin or a Hitler. It really borders on hysteria.
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 07:34 PM
I've been a registered Republican for 60 years. I see the candidates (ALL of them), listen to them, and vote for the ones I agree with and who have a good chance to make improvements.
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 08:14 PM
A liberal dem wolf in republican sheep's clothing. You seem to love tossing hateful comments towards Trump. I would suggest you adopt a more civil approach and simply discuss the man's policies.
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 09:00 PM
Trump has no policies except to become the first U.S. king.
You watch that debate tonight? *giggle*
jlisenbe
Dec 6, 2023, 09:13 PM
Just more unhinged vitriol coming from someone who claims to be in favor of civility. I guess the truth comes out after all.
Wondergirl
Dec 6, 2023, 09:54 PM
He said so himself!!!!
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 05:08 AM
He said he wants to be king? Yeah. Right.
tomder55
Dec 7, 2023, 05:15 AM
He made a joke on Hannity that the TDS crowd took seriously.
https://www.marketwatch.com/video/trump-says-he-wont-be-a-dictator-except-for-day-one-if-re-elected/289B016B-4815-4C58-A304-5A0250334512.html
Every grown man hyperventilating about this clip needs to find a sense of humor" Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio)
tomder55
Dec 7, 2023, 05:47 AM
You watch that debate tonight? *giggle* It was 2 on 1 Vivek and DeSantis attacking Haley . The elephant in the room devoted his time attacking the elephant not in the room .
If there is any other Repub debate in the pursuit of 2nd place then it should be DeSantis and Haley in a round table discussion . Vivek could be a serious candidate if he was a serious candidate . But he is a clown and a troll.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAtXBRlXgAAmocl?format=jpg&name=900x900
Christie is a 1 trick pony with a grievance against Trump for snubbing him for a position in his cabinet in 2016 .
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 06:50 AM
Christie has no chance and VR has allowed himself to degenerate into a complainer and grumbler rather than proposing solutions. Trump should be there.
The liberal dems have a hatred of Trump such as I've not seen before. When vitriol runs short, then the lies begin. They have such a fear of the man. And this goes on while Biden has been unmasked as a corrupt seller of government influence to foreign government officials. Nothing is said about that.
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 09:39 AM
When vitriol runs short, then the lies begin. They have such a fear of the man.
No one has to lie about Trump. He lays it all out right in front of everyone. Fear him? Hardly! Actually, I miss the Trump who existed during the early "Apprentice" days. He's now a genuine example of how mental illness can affect and destroy someone.
In this morning's Chicago Tribune, a column by Steve Chapman included this:
***The former president has always admired ruthless tyrants, including Vladimir Putin (“genius”), China’s Xi Jinping (“a strong guy, tough guy”) and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un (“We fell in love”). He likes autocrats not in spite of their despotic nature but because of it.
Lately, he has also gone out of his way to emulate them — referring to his political opponents as “vermin,” declaring that Milley deserved to be executed and vowing to shoot shoplifters. In a pitch-perfect echo of Adolf Hitler, he accused migrants of “poisoning the blood of our country.”
Such remarks may be dismissed as nothing more than colorful language from a candidate unbound by stuffy political norms. But his vitriol is meant to create a sense of apocalyptic danger that requires draconian measures.***
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 01:54 PM
No one has to lie about Trump. Oh? Then why did you? "Trump has no policies except to become the first U.S. king." He has said no such thing and has no such ambition.
The column from the Tribune amounted to little more than picking out isolated, out of context remarks by Trump and then making far too much of them. But it's better than the personal insults you had been engaging in. I'm glad to see you have corrected that.
Your criticisms of Trump would carry more weight if you were an equal-opportunity criticizer. The crime and bribery exploits by Biden go unnoticed by you, so it makes your attacks seem to be solidly partisan.
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 02:52 PM
Oh? Then why did you? "Trump has no policies except to become the first U.S. king." He has said no such thing and has no such ambition.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SdwYFe8qVk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SdwYFe8qVk)
The crime and bribery exploits by Biden go unnoticed by you, so it makes your attacks seem to be solidly partisan.
Not at all. But Trump's arrogance and desire for total power are the topics on the table right now.
tomder55
Dec 7, 2023, 03:08 PM
Vivek is all over the news for challenging Nikki to name the 3 " provinces " or "regions "that she wants to send America’s sons & daughters to die fighting for. (the correct word is "Oblasts " the ones in Novorossiya are Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kharkiv)
Turn around seems to be fair play . So in light of his giving 'Jeopardy ' questions for his fellow candidates to choke on , I would like to ask him in light of the fact that he would end birthright citizenship ;if a son of a man immigrated here and who chose to NOT become an American citizen should be considered a "natural born " citizen ?
He was born here to Indian immigrants who at the time were not American citizens . He has already admitted that his father never became one. So his claim to eligibilty appears to be his status as a birthright citizen , . He's a statutory citizen but not an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen.
But why quibble ?
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 03:22 PM
Oh? Then why did you? "Trump has no policies except to become the first U.S. king." He has said no such thing and has no such ambition.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SdwYFe8qVk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SdwYFe8qVk)
The crime and bribery exploits by Biden go unnoticed by you, so it makes your attacks seem to be solidly partisan.
Not at all. But Trump's arrogance and desire for total power are the topics on the table right now.At no place in your link did Trump say he had no policies but to become the king. You would be much better served to learn to be a little honest and simply admit you were wrong. As to what Trump actually DID say, Tom has already dealt with that. Please learn to keep up.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=851078&p=3894794#post3894794
Not at all??? Well, it will be easy enough for you to provide links to where you have leveled those criticisms here. I will wait patiently. If the past is any indicator, I will still be waiting a year from now.
He was born here to Indian immigrants who at the time were not American citizens . He has already admitted that his father never became one. So his claim to eligibilty appears to be his status as a birthright citizen , . He's a statutory citizen but not an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen.Hmm. I wonder just who that guy might be.
VR at one time seemed to be a serious candidate. Lately, he has become desperate and wants to launch his attacks on primarily Haley.
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 03:35 PM
Trump said he will be a dictator on Day One. I'm guessing that will continue on Day Two, Day Three, and thereafter.
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 04:24 PM
Good ole guesswork.
Like I said earlier, a simple admission that your statement was WRONG would go far towards giving you at least some minimal level of credibility. As it stands, this statement was ridiculous. "Trump has no policies except to become the first U.S. king."
And again. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...94#post3894794 (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=851078&p=3894794#post3894794)
Still waiting to see all those places where you took the Biden admin to task.
tomder55
Dec 7, 2023, 05:00 PM
DeSantis won the debate IMO when he said men in Iraq wear "man dresses"
Ron Desantis Says People Wore Man Dresses in Iraq and Threatens Violence at The Border #politics - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pjWYTI24Aw)
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 05:09 PM
Good ole guesswork.
Like I said earlier, a simple admission that your statement was WRONG would go far towards giving you at least some minimal level of credibility. As it stands, this statement was ridiculous. "Trump has no policies except to become the first U.S. king."
No guesswork is needed. His very presence, gestures, facial expressions, and rambling verbiage say it.
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 05:43 PM
WG. Thank goodness you don’t go in for subjective judgements!!
Tom. I liked the “man dresses” remark too. Nice to see someone not eaten up with wokeness.
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 06:04 PM
WG. Thank goodness you don’t go in for subjective judgements!!
Tom. I liked the “man dresses” remark too. Nice to see someone not eaten up with wokeness.
JL. Thank goodness you don’t go in for subjective judgments!! Especially about the clothing men of other nationalities wear. (Psssst, Jesus and His disciples wore "man dresses" too.)
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 06:19 PM
What subjective judgment did I make?
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 07:26 PM
What subjective judgment did I make?
About Iraqi men.
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 07:31 PM
I said nothing about Iraqi men.
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 07:46 PM
I said nothing about Iraqi men.
You said: Tom. I liked the “man dresses” remark too.
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 08:20 PM
And why did I say I liked it??? Where did I mention Iraqi men???
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 08:36 PM
And why did I say I liked it??? Where did I mention Iraqi men???
Post #32. Tom's was Post #30.
jlisenbe
Dec 7, 2023, 08:39 PM
Please stop making it up as you go along. I am not responsible for what Tom or anyone else says, but even Tom's comment was a simple, objective comment about a statement from the debate.
Post 32 below. There is no mention of Iraqi men at all. And in case someone is reading impaired, I underlined my reasoning for liking the comment. I have no concern at all about how Iraqi men dress.
WG. Thank goodness you don’t go in for subjective judgements!!
Tom. I liked the “man dresses” remark too. Nice to see someone not eaten up with wokeness.
You do this all the time. You get caught red-handed violating your own moralizing, in this case making mean-spirited, hateful comments and subjective judgments, and then rather than simply admit it and move on, you want to falsely accuse others of doing it. It really gets old.
Wondergirl
Dec 7, 2023, 09:37 PM
You liked Tom's remark about Iraqi men wearing "man dresses".
Tom's remark was a slam and you agreed with it.
You did NOT underline anything in Post #32 when you first said it.
And!!!! JL, this fits you, not me -- you do this all the time. You get caught red-handed violating your own moralizing, in this case making mean-spirited, hateful comments and subjective judgments, and then rather than simply admit it and move on, you want to falsely accuse others of doing it. It really gets old.
tomder55
Dec 8, 2023, 04:19 AM
I'm betting every American deployed to the ME call the garb 'man dresses' . Yeah the left has their panties in a knot over the comment. That is a strange reaction if you ask me since clearly the left sees no issue with men dressing as women.
It is called a 'throbe' . When I was in Iran ,before the Ayatollah's revolution , the men mostly wore jeans . They also wore mascara (khol). This was not to make themselves look feminine . It was added protection from the sun. The man dress is practical too. It protects the skin and at the same time the air flow cools the junk.
jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 05:26 AM
You liked Tom's remark about Iraqi men wearing "man dresses".
Tom's remark was a slam and you agreed with it.Tom simply quoted DeSantis. Neither he nor I made an observation that was derogatory. My comment had nothing to do with Iraqi men.
You did NOT underline anything in Post #32 when you first said it.Correct. I never said I did.
And!!!! JL, this fits you, not me -- you do this all the time. You get caught red-handed violating your own moralizing, in this case making mean-spirited, hateful comments and subjective judgments, and then rather than simply admit it and move on, you want to falsely accuse others of doing it. It really gets old.See what I mean? And that is from the person who said, "And Trump is fat, ugly, has a greasy orange face and neck. Don't even ask me about his hair," as well as, "No guesswork is needed. His very presence, gestures, facial expressions, and rambling verbiage say it." You get caught, and then you get mad. Happens all the time. You are utterly predictable.
I don't care what the Iraqi men wear. I thought DeSantis's comment was somewhat unwise, but I like the fact that he was willing to cross what is, to some, a line in the sand. It was a shot across the bow of the woke crowd.
I'm betting every American deployed to the ME call the garb 'man dresses' . I have no doubt that's true, and you can be sure that the Iraqi men had the same type of comments to make about Americans.
Wondergirl
Dec 8, 2023, 09:46 AM
From Salon today:
Trump would not have such great power and potential in his claims on God King Dictator status if not for the many tens of millions of people who support him as part of the MAGA cult and those others who see him as a means of getting (more) power. Trump’s dangerousness would not be so severe if he did not have the institutional support, financing, planning, and agents who are willing to do his bidding as apparatchiks, "Little Eichmanns," and as senior leaders in the American neofascist movement.
jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 09:51 AM
Trump would not have such great power and potential in his claims on God King Dictator statusJust more hysterical nonsense. He has made no such claims. It amazes me how casually people will lie about Trump since they seem to be completely ignorant of his policy proposals.
Wondergirl
Dec 8, 2023, 10:36 AM
Just more hysterical nonsense. He has made no such claims. It amazes me how casually people will lie about Trump since they seem to be completely ignorant of his policy proposals.
Of course, he has made such claims. He was laughing but, knowing how he is, there's an undercurrent of seriousness and reality. And, once president again, he'd never surrender the presidency to anyone else.
jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 11:18 AM
Of course, he has made such claimsOther than the one interview on Hannity, where else has he made those claims?
but, knowing how he is, there's an undercurrent of seriousness and reality. And, once president again, he'd never surrender the presidency to anyone else.And, of course, lacking objective claims, you resume the hysterical, subjective guesswork. Tom hit the nail on the head. It's just TDS at work. You readily violate your own self-proclaimed standards of civility in expressing your hatred of DT. It's the old advice we used to give our kids turned on its head. "Don't do what I do. Rather, just do what I say."
tomder55
Dec 8, 2023, 11:33 AM
The Dems and the compliant press are not really worried about a Trump dictatorship. Their real worry is that they may lose their brain dead sock puppet dictator .
Wondergirl
Dec 8, 2023, 11:38 AM
You readily violate your own self-proclaimed standards of civility in expressing your hatred of DT. It's the old advice we used to give our kids turned on its head. "Don't do what I do. Rather, just do what I say."
In imitation of you in your hatred of Biden.
jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 11:45 AM
In imitation of you in your hatred of Biden.First of all, even if that was true, it would never excuse your hateful comments. Secondly, it is not true. Find the place where I have made hateful comments about Biden on this level. "And Trump is fat, ugly, has a greasy orange face and neck. Don't even ask me about his hair." I try to limit my comments to Biden's policies. Goodness knows there is plenty there to keep a soul busy.
Note to other readers. She will not even attempt to answer that. She never does. It'll just be more of, "Oh! Oh! You do it too!"
Have you ever considered trying to become a responsible, thoughtful poster who can actually support her points?
Tom, I think they are really afraid that Trump will come in and start digging. Perhaps they don't realize that DeSantis or Haley will likely do the same.
Wondergirl
Dec 8, 2023, 12:09 PM
I try to limit my comments to Biden's policies.
You try ---- but fail.
jlisenbe
Dec 8, 2023, 12:47 PM
Find the place where I have made hateful comments about Biden on this level. "And Trump is fat, ugly, has a greasy orange face and neck. Don't even ask me about his hair." I try to limit my comments to Biden's policies. Goodness knows there is plenty there to keep a soul busy.
Note to other readers. She will not even attempt to answer that. She never does. It'll just be more of, "Oh! Oh! You do it too!"LIke I said, utterly predictable.
tomder55
Dec 9, 2023, 04:11 AM
So who is the dictator ? Trump had 35 press conferences in his last year in office. Clueless Joe has not come close to that number his entire term.
The Slimes says Trump will use the DOJ to investigate his opponents . Ironically being investigated by the Dems has been Trump's life since he first announced his candidacy in 2016 . Since leaving office all he has had to endure is 91 mostly politically motivated felony charges .
Clueless Joe issued more EOs in his first 100 days than any previous President .
Democracy is at stake is a tired old song that the Dems have sung for my whole adult life . Reagan ;the Bushes ;Trump have all been called dictators . Then they say well we called Reagan Hitler but we really meant Bush was Hitler. Well we called Bush Hitler but we REALLY meant Trump. It is as grating as listening to a worn out LP .
This year the compliant press leaves no doubt about it . It is a coordinated drone like a boring Gregorian chant .They are all singing from the same hymnal
jlisenbe
Dec 9, 2023, 06:32 AM
It is the chorus of the non-thinkers. The material you listed above should certainly give pause to anyone singing from the anti-Trump hymnal, but rather amazingly, there does not seem to be adequate words to cause them to stop and consider what they are saying. There is just an eerie silence about Biden and a shrill hysteria about Trump. It is a strange sight.
tomder55
Dec 11, 2023, 05:46 AM
I think all this is their justification for their weaponization of politics . I got that from rereading the Robert Kagan screed I linked to on the OP .
"Nor can you blame those who have hoped thereby to obstruct his path back to the Oval Office. When a marauder is crashing through your house, you throw everything you can at him — pots, pans, candlesticks — in the hope of slowing him down and tripping him up. "
He all buts admits that the goal is not justice . It is an attempt to prevent Trump from becoming President again
So who is the dictator ? Is it the one who reduced regulations ? Is it the one who reduced taxes ?
Or is it the one who wants to force us to buy electric cars ;the one who wants to force us to give up gas appliances ? Is it the one who not only threatens but has used the Justice Dept to go after political opponents ? Is it the one who has forced tech companies to spy on Americans and to censure us ? Is it the one that sic's it's Justice Dept on concerned parents ;who don't want their children exposed to government approved pornography ;that denies parents a say when their child ;in a moment of identity crisis ,decides to mutilate their body ?
The way to beat a dictator is to become a dictator in this rationalization. It's pure and simple projection. The loudest accusers are in fact the most guilty.
tomder55
Dec 11, 2023, 06:20 AM
In another example of Biden the dictator ; last week he threatened to seize patents of pharmaceutical companies. You see ;what the government (Congress Art 1 Sec 8 Clause 8 ) can grant ;a dictator can take away by fiat.
It is called "march-in" authority which is a fitting name for this government power. The idea was introduced in the 1980 Bayh-Dole Act.The law was designed to spur innovation . It has been very successful.
In the act is the "march-in" provision; a safeguard that gives the federal government the authority to require relicensing of a patent if good-faith efforts aren't being made to commercialize the research. In other words ;if a patent that was issued was sitting in the possession of a company ;and that company was letting it collect dust then the government could revoke the patent .
This has nothing to do with the price of a drug. But Clueless wants to use it as a means to force the price of drugs.....just like a dictator would do ...command and control.
Under their definition ;a drug they deem to be too expensive is subject to patent revoking .
Biden Administration Releases Draft Framework for Exercising Bayh-Dole March-in Rights Taking Into Account Drug Prices | Foley Hoag LLP (https://www.foleyhoag.com/news-and-insights/publications/alerts-and-updates/2023/december/biden-administration-releases-draft-framework-for-exercising-bayh-dole-march-in-rights/)
Bayh and Dole explained in 2002 that the law was NOT intended for the government to set prices.
Bayh-Dole did not intend that government set prices on resulting products. The law makes no reference to a reasonable price that should be dictated by the government. This omission was intentional; the primary purpose of the act was to entice the private sector to seek public-private research collaboration rather than focusing on its own proprietary research.
Our Law Helps Patients Get New Drugs Sooner - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2002/04/11/our-law-helps-patients-get-new-drugs-sooner/d814d22a-6e63-4f06-8da3-d9698552fa24/)
But dictators can make the rules as they go along.
Clueless being clueless doesn't get that this is self defeating .He wants a so called "moon shot" on cancer treatments. The worse thing he can do is take steps to seize patents .That will only discourage the innovation he seeks .
tomder55
Jan 21, 2024, 05:51 AM
here we go again
Fascism is everywhere on the march. And it’s Trump who sets the pace | Simon Tisdall | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/20/fascism-is-everywhere-on-the-march-and-its-trump-who-sets-the-pace)
tomder55
Feb 11, 2024, 08:46 AM
The joke is that in 2016 ;the compliant press discovered that Trump was a ratings magnet . So the coverage good and bad was non-stop . It could be argued that they unintentionally gave a boost to his campaign.
Study: Trump boosted, Clinton hurt by primary media coverage - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/media-study-trump-helped-clinton-hurt-224300)
The compliant press learned their lesson . Now they ignore him .
Broadcast networks take a pass on Trump 2024 announcement speech - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/11/15/tv-news-trump-campaign-speech-broadcast/)
Except when there is negative news to report .
MSNBC Is Having Its Super Bowl With Donald Trump’s Indictments | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/msnbc-ratings-trump-indictments)
If Trump has a bad moment show it . If Clueless Joe mutters a rambling disconnected or the Secret Service keeps him from falling off the stage as Jill directs him to the steps ;ignore it.
JFK Jr ? Only report what they believe are loony conspiracy theories about vaccines and space aliens . Same with No Labels They can only serve to get Trump elected . Ignore them.
Coverage should be equal and non-bias. Don't hold your breath.