Remember Kam the Sham gushing over EV school buses ?

‘Who Doesn’t Love A Yellow School Bus?’: Kamala Harris Touts Investments In Electric School Buses - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7sJs9IPjY)

She was speaking of an EV bus made by Proterra,
Clueless Joe gushed about the company. Their EV initiative was heavily subsidized. He "virtually " visited the plant in my adopted town of Greenville SC .He appointed the CEO Gareth Joyce to serve as a member of the President’s Export Council.

Biden virtually visits local electric bus manufacturer in Greenville (greenvilleonline.com) (https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/greenville/2021/04/20/joe-biden-visit-greenville-sc-virtual-local-electric-bus-manufacturing/7300675002/)

Proterra CEO Gareth Joyce Appointed By President Biden To The President’s Export Council | Proterra (https://www.proterra.com/press-release/proterra-ceo-gareth-joyce-appointed-to-president-bidens-council/)

He praised Joyce for "growing Proterra’s EV battery manufacturing footprint in the United States and accelerating the transition of transit and other commercial vehicles to zero emission solutions."

Well Clueless is on the road touting "Bidenonics" . He just got hit with some bad news.

Proterra filed for bankruptcy Monday.

The company's stock was $17 a share when it went public. Yesterday you could buy a share for 17 cents. The company had an accumulated deficit of $1.1 billion by the end of 2022 even though it generated $749.2 million in revenue in that time selling about 1,000 EV buses.

The company will be reorganized; separated to its various components. It will concentrate on battery manufacturing even though buses were its biggest selling point.

Proterra, Bay Area-based 'Tesla of electric buses,' goes bankrupt (sfgate.com) (https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/proterra-electric-vehicle-declares-bankruptcy-18286196.php)


I don't want to cause no fuss (Too much, Magic Bus)
But can I buy your Magic Bus? (Too much, Magic Bus)
Nooooooooo!
I don't care how much I pay (Too much, Magic Bus)
I wanna drive my bus to my baby each day (Too much, Magic Bus)
I want it, I want it, I want it, I want it ... (You can't have it!)

( Pete Townshend)

Thankfully, the feds have lots and lots of surplus cash to invest in losers like Proterra.

Reminds me of the emperor's reign when heavily subsidized Solyndra went belly up after receiving $535 million in federal loan guarantees

So they were running a fleet of EV buses from Jackson County Wyoming to Teton County .

I emphasis the word "were " .

The Southern Teton Area Rapid Transit (START) system, between Jackson and Teton County, have 8 EV buses and NONE of them work.

Jackson Buys 8 Electric Buses For Transit System, But None Are Working | Your Wyoming News Source (cowboystatedaily.com) (https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09/26/jackson-buys-8-electric-buses-for-transit-system-but-none-are-working/)

The taxpayer subsidized company that supplied the magic buses is going out of business.

EV firm Proterra files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-firm-proterra-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-2023-08-07/)



According to the News & Guide, the eight buses in its fleet cost $2.3 million, 80% of which was covered by a Federal Transit Administration (FTA) grant in 2019. Between 2020 and 2021, similar grants provided another $2.6 million, and START plans to spend $3.3 million for four more electric buses.
This time another company other than Proterra will be filling the order, and delivery is years away.

Gareth Joyce, the CEO who oversaw the failure of Proterra is a paid advisor to Clueless Joe .

President's Export Council Members (trade.gov) (https://www.trade.gov/presidents-export-council-members)


Senator John Barasso wants to know why ,


It appears that by retaining Joyce, you are continuing to play political favorites with a company your administration has systematically promoted time and again since you took office.

Mr. President, it is evident that the promotion and favoritism towards Proterra Inc. have resulted in significant losses for taxpayers and investors, including those in my home state of Wyoming. The bankruptcy of Proterra, despite the administration's support, raises serious questions about the reasoning behind these endorsements. The American people deserve accountability and transparency in matters of public policy and the businesses the President of the United States and his cabinet officials choose to promote.
Given Proterra’s bankruptcy, it is clear that Mr. Joyce should be removed from your Export Council.

4C070AD9-7BA0-4B08-AE22-46E3A31C21C0 (senate.gov) (https://www.energy.senate.gov/services/files/4C070AD9-7BA0-4B08-AE22-46E3A31C21C0)


Clueless' goal is to have half of new car sales be EV's by 2030 ;

We're getting there . Last year the share of EVs sold went up from 3.2% to 5.8 % of auto sales.
EV Sales Growth was a Highlight of 2022 - Cox Automotive Inc. (coxautoinc.com) (https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/ev-sales-growth-was-a-highlight-of-2022/#:~:text=EV%20share%20of%20new%2Dvehicle,up%20from %203.2%25%20in%202021.)

it is evident that the promotion and favoritism towards Proterra Inc. have resulted in significant losses for taxpayersIt is amazing that, with the widespread acceptance of monstrous federal debt, the wasting of federal funds is no longer considered to be a scandal. People just yawn and move on to the really important stuff like TG or the World Series.


Last year the share of EVs sold went up from 3.2% to 5.8 % of auto sales.That would never happen unless the feds were heavily subsidizing the whole deal. And that, of course, relates to my first comment above.

What will make it easier to achieve his goal is that no one can afford to buy a new car

New car sales have slowed amid higher prices and interest rates - Marketplace (https://www.marketplace.org/2023/03/06/new-car-sales-have-slowed-amid-higher-prices-and-interest-rates/)

I guess the good news is that with demand low ,interest rates high ,and inventories over stocked , the taxpayer subsidized cars will be available at give away prices.


New Car Market: Prices Are About To Plummet — Is Now the Right Time To Buy? (yahoo.com) (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/car-market-prices-plummet-due-153706713.html)

All of this government induced inflation reminds me of Paul's comment in 2 Corinthians. "For you tolerate it if anyone enslaves you, anyone devours you, anyone takes advantage of you, anyone exalts himself, anyone hits you in the face."

that we do . We also tolerate the intollerable like killing babies for convenience.

that we do . We also tolerate the intollerable like killing babies for convenience.
How did those babies get there? Perhaps it's time reversible vasectomies are required when a male begins puberty.

Perhaps it's time reversible vasectomies are required when a male begins puberty.Typical liberal dem reply. In the golden age of birth control for females, that's about as silly an idea as can be imagined, and especially considering that "reversible vasectomies" are strictly a maybe situation as opposed to a definite.

Typical liberal dem reply. In the golden age of birth control for females, that's about as silly an idea as can be imagined, and especially considering that "reversible vasectomies" are strictly a maybe situation as opposed to a definite.
Women (I know several it happened to) can carefully use even as many as three forms of birth control, all of which failed to protect them from a pregnancy. If no reversible vasectomies, then, men, keep your hands in your pockets and your fly zipped up.

typical to come up with a Mengele solution to a failed cultural problem

typical to come up with a Mengele solution to a failed cultural problem
No Mengele, just common sense for birth control (not sweaty palms and heaving chests).

Women (I know several it happened to) can carefully use even as many as three forms of birth control, all of which failed to protect them from a pregnancy. If no reversible vasectomies, then, men, keep your hands in your pockets and your fly zipped up.Don't much believe that birth control story. Still, I would be happy to join you in calling for both men AND women to keep their fly zipped up until marriage. You, of course, will likely pass on that since it would entail women having to exercise responsibility along with men.


No Mengele, just common sense for birth control (not sweaty palms and heaving chests).Your "common sense" involves forcing teen age boys to have surgery they do not wish to have. It is perfectly in line with Mengele's ideas.

I would be happy to join you in calling for both men AND women to keep their fly zipped up until marriage.
Those women were regulars on this site.

And I have always encouraged getting married before having sexual relations.


Your "common sense" involves forcing teen age boys to have surgery they do not wish to have. It is perfectly in line with Mengele's ideas.
Why do you think there are so many people in the world?

And by not controlling themselves, males get females pregnant with babies no one wants.

So your insane "solution" is to force teenage boys to get vasectomies against their will? Why am I not surprised? I guess the genuinely common-sense, freedom-loving idea of simply telling women that avoiding sex will automatically result in them avoiding pregnancies is just a bit too complicated, so forcing free Americans to have unwanted surgeries is the way to go.

Oh brother. The liberal dem has spoken again.

No forcing teen boys. They will be greatly rewarded.

At least this country won't be in the terrible mess it would be in if the self-righteous repubs get hold of it.

No forcing teen boys. They will be greatly rewarded.I'm glad you've changed your tune. Perhaps you forgot that your original whacky idea was, "Perhaps it's time reversible vasectomies are required when a male begins puberty."

What will the reward be? And what will happen if the great majority of teen boys reject the "Wondergirl Forced Sterilization" program and continue to live as they choose?

The last time the repubs ran the show, we had the greatest economy in decades. Is that the terrible mess you referred to?

babies no one wants.


that about says it all The lefts evil agenda summed up in 4 words If only we exterminated 4 or 5 billion people all our problems would be solved

I'm glad you've changed your tune. Perhaps you forgot that your original whacky idea was, "Perhaps it's time reversible vasectomies are required when a male begins puberty."

What will the reward be? And what will happen if the great majority of teen boys reject the "Wondergirl Forced Sterilization" program and continue to live as they choose?As is often the case, no answers are provided by the person who seriously suggested that pre-pubescent boys be REQUIRED to be surgically rendered unfertile.

What will the reward be? And what will happen if the great majority of teen boys reject the "Wondergirl Forced Sterilization" program and continue to live as they choose?

As is often the case, no answers are provided by the person who seriously suggested that pre-pubescent boys be REQUIRED to be surgically rendered unfertile.
I hadn't read your response until just now.

A male can have sexual relations without worry and concern that he will get the female pregnant. Once he's married, the surgery will be reversed.

A male can have sexual relations without worry and concern that he will get the female pregnant. But you said just a day or two ago ("I have always encouraged getting married before having sexual relations.") that we should be encouraging people to postpone sex until marriage. Why are you now wanting to characterize this as a "reward" and thus encourage casual premarital sex?


Once he's married, the surgery will be reversed.Liberal dems seem to have a habit if just breezily making statements like this, never bothering to find out if their assertion is actually true. In this case, it is certain that many of those boys will be rendered infertile (against their will) permanently.


Your chances of getting your partner pregnant after reversing a vasectomy can range from 30 to 70 percent (https://uihc.org/health-library/vasectomy-reversals-frequently-asked-questions). Your chances of a successful reversal may be lower if it’s been over 10 years since your vasectomy.Since you want this done prior to puberty, then it is certain it will be ten or more years for most of those boys. What a great plan.
https://www.healthline.com/health/vasectomy-reversal#efficacy

You are such a Danny Downer! If a male can't produce sperm for whatever reason and he and his husband/wife want a child, then adopt!!! There are tons of babies and children available all over the world!!! What a wonderful opportunity to create a family!

You are such a Danny Downer! If a male can't produce sperm for whatever reason and he and his husband/wife want a child, then adopt!!! There are tons of babies and children available all over the world!!! What a wonderful opportunity to create a family!Funny how you believe a person has a right to control her own body when it comes time to have her baby killed, but not when it's a boy wanting to refuse the Wondergirl/Mengele Forced Sterilization program.

Males have ruled us far too long. Now it's OUR turn to rule them!!!

Now it's OUR turn to rule them!!!If the Wondergirl/Mengele Forced Sterilization Program is your idea of ruling, then count me out.

You're too old. Not invited.

That's a relief!