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tomder55
Feb 9, 2023, 07:24 AM
I don't know how to take the reporting yet , There is a report that says Quid ordered the sabotage of the Nord Stream II pipeline . The claim is that he did so because Putin was using the pipeline as a political weapon .He also wanted the leverage over Europe .

This report comes from Seymore Hersh . In his long career he has broken some key important stories . He broke the story about the My Lai massacre in Vietnam 1969 (the massacre was in 1968). He broke the story about the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. His reporting on CIA spying on anti-war protesters led to the Church Committee investigations .

Some of his other reporting over the years are probably true . But they are disputed and often lack credible sources. He relies too heavily on unnamed sources ....as he does in this report .


How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline (substack.com) (https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)

If true it is an act of war against Russia .

jlisenbe
Feb 10, 2023, 06:12 AM
Tried to read the Hersh article but it is a subscription link.

tomder55
Feb 10, 2023, 06:54 AM
yeah I forgot substack was subscription .

Try this link

Seymour Hersh: How US Took Out the Nord Stream Pipeline - scheerpost.com (https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/)

jlisenbe
Feb 10, 2023, 07:28 AM
Interesting article. It is nice to think that we still have some people in the military more interested in warfare than in pronouns. If Biden really did manage to pull this off, then my hat's off to him. But then did Hersh put this out as a way of promoting Biden?

tomder55
Mar 5, 2023, 05:08 AM
According to Reuters Russia is going to "mothball" the damaged pipelines and has no plans to repair them.


soaring tensions between Moscow and the West over Russia's invasion of Ukraine had by then already brought Nord Stream 1 to a standstill and prevented its twin, criticised by Washington and Kyiv for increasing Germany's dependence on Russia, ever coming online.
Gazprom has said it is technically possible to repair the ruptured lines, but two sources familiar with plans said Moscow saw little prospect of relations with the West improving enough in the foreseeable future for the pipelines to be needed.

Exclusive: Russia set to mothball damaged Nord Stream gas pipelines - sources | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-set-mothball-damaged-nord-stream-gas-pipelines-sources-2023-03-03/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Weekend-Briefing&utm_term=030423)

tomder55
Mar 14, 2023, 05:23 AM
Germany's investigation concluded that the sabotage of the pipeline was done by a state actor. Hersh says it was the US.

For the environmentalists who support Quid Pro Joe ;this is the largest release of CO2 in world history. Guess that Hersh is big enough to evade US censors . Not such luck for Columbia University professor who accused the US in October of the sabotage .

Jeffrey Sachs yanked off air after accusing US of sabotaging Nord Stream (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/jeffrey-sachs-yanked-off-air-after-accusing-us-of-sabotaging-nord-stream/)

World leaders are not influenced as much by the US control of the media. Quid pretty much said that the US would take out the pipeline of Russia invaded Ukraine.

“If Russia invades [Ukraine] . . . there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” When asked by a reporter how he would do that, Biden said: “I promise you; we will be able to do that.”

If Russia invades Ukraine, there will be no Nord Stream 2, Biden says | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/if-russia-invades-ukraine-there-will-be-no-nord-stream-2-biden-says-2022-02-07/)

The US abandons allies and evidently sabotages allies economies too. This will be a tool in Xi's diplomatic tour.

tomder55
Jun 7, 2023, 04:41 AM
3 months before the pipelne was destroyed ,the US received intel from our European allies that Ukraine had plans to sabotage it using a small team of divers.

Quid Pro Joe has kept this revelation secret and instead led us to believe that Russia blew up it's own pipeline. Even when there were press reports that said the US was responsible ,he kept mum.

U.S. knew about Ukrainian plot to bomb Nord Stream pipeline months before attack - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/06/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-ukraine-russia/)

The intelligence report was based on information provided by a person in Ukraine, the Compost said, adding the CIA shared it with Germany and other European countries in June 2022.

jlisenbe
Jun 13, 2023, 11:54 AM
Good news!! Biden is primed to put 720 million American women into the workforce. It would be amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzXwbbVZd1c