That's right ;barring any expected or unexpected poll "shenanigans " by the Dems ,the red wave will be a wipeout .

I was not sure of this until the weekend. The Dems got their heavyweights on planes to close the deal. What was telling is where they campaigned.

The Emperor and Clueless creepy Quid Pro Joe campaigned in New Mexico ,California ,Illinois ,New York ,Pennsylvania .

Most of those states should be slam dunk locks for the Blue team. Kathy Hochul should be a shoo-in to win the Guv race in NY . Yet the Dem's A team had to come and campaign for her yesterday . The idea that it is close enough for them to have to waste time and resources to rally the base is unheard of . Lee Zeldin is no George Pataki middle of the road moderate Rockefeller Republican. He voted with Trump in Congress. Yet the race is competitive enough that the Dems think they have to make a special effort to close the deal.

This is happening all over the country . We have been told that Trump undermined the Repubs by getting supporters like Hershel Walker nominated . But if he is such a bad candidate then why would the emperor go down to Georgia (he was looking for an election to steal) ......if the Warnock campaign was not able to destroy Walker ?

More important .What is the closing message ? Repubs are bogymen who want to destroy democracy . Is that the best they got?

The emperor also went on Chi-com controlled TikTok ;sitting yoga style under a desk to urge younger voters to register and vote.
Barack Obama teams with TikToker Vitus Spehar's 'Under the Desk News' for get-out-the-vote push (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2022/11/02/barack-obama-teams-with-tiktoker-vitus-spehars-under-the-desk-news-for-get-out-the-vote-push/)

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/underthedesknews-27.jpg?w=582

1. Obama looks old.
2. If the appearance of voter fraud shows up again this week, then look for trouble in the streets. People are getting tired of it.
3. Energy prices going back up does not bode well for dem chances.
4. If the repubs gain majorities in both houses, then that will be good news for them. It will also be bad news as voters will expect them to play hardball with Biden like they tried and failed to do with Obama. Considering that Biden's popularity is not even close to what Obama had, then their chances of success will be higher.
5. Kari Lake could be a rising star with republicans. She reminds me of a Trump who has mouth and Twitter discipline.
6. Trump opened fire on DeSantis this week (Ron DeSanctimonious) which surprised me. I would think it makes it much more likely that DeSantis will run.

Trump was gaging how his attack would play in 2 years . He can't hurt DeSantis .DeSantis' lead of Crist is double digit . Some in the crowd booed so that should tell Trump to tread lightly . The compliant press of course creams in their pants over the prospect of a Repub circular firing squad in the 2024 primaries. So they will egg Trump on .

Trump also called DeSantis a "nice man" a week ago . So who knows what he is really doing ?
#shorts #trump #desantis Trump on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis: ‘He’s a nice man’ - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cjdYdw2AXsE)

I guess the people of the nation approve of the direction the country is going. Clueless Joe and the Dems are going to read the results as a mandate to continue their nation destroying agenda .

It is puzzling. It appears the repubs will control the House and the Senate will likely remain split. The advantage of basically controlling 90% of the national media is a powerful one for the liberal dems. We will continue to spend and borrow our way into oblivion and wake up, I suppose, far too late. There were some bright spots. Abrams and O'Rourke losing was big, but the election of a mentally damaged man in Pa for Senate is really strange.

The Dems holding the Senate is VERY dangerous . They will take it as a mandate for court packing and ending filibusters

At least Abrams didn't resort to any loonie election conspiracy theories. Or did she?


Georgia Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams insisted Monday that Republican Gov. Brian Kemp’s voting law (https://www.foxnews.com/media/don-lemon-clashes-georgia-secretary-state-voter-suppression-despite-record-turnout) is allowing White supremacists to purge voters while appearing on MSNBC’s "The ReidOut." Well, she is a writer of fiction, so that statement just came naturally. She needs to go back to writing porn.

She will have to square that circle with the fact that the state shattered early voting records ;that there were no subtantial delays at the polls or in the counting ,and that there were higher percentage of minority and older voters in early balloting .
Jim Crow 2.0 is the lie of the year

Jim Crow 2.0 is the lie of the yearBut that's the whole problem. Truth is no longer valued, so people are all too happy to accept a lie so long as it validates their view of the world.

I saw a post on Facebook today that being kind was more important than being right. I see the point there, but allowing someone to believe a lie in an effort to be kind is in reality not being kind at all.

The Dobbs decision was the major factor for the Repubs poor showing . Exit polling shows nationwide 39% of voters were angry over the Dobbs decision and 21% dissatisfied . Combined 60% of voters had a negative view of the ruling .

My wife and I talked about that this morning. Part of it is the fact that the dishonest media portrayed it as the elimination of abortion when it was not. Noticed today that CNN portrayed it as an "abortion rights" issue. Well, there is no legal right to an abortion. There is, however, very solid legal authority for the "right to life". I wonder if the media had been portraying it that way for the past twenty year if it would have made a difference?

The Dobbs decision was the major factor for the Repubs poor showing . Exit polling shows nationwide 39% of voters were angry over the Dobbs decision and 21% dissatisfied . Combined 60% of voters had a negative view of the ruling .

I agree that was a big factor. When the Supreme Court abolished a right that had been in effect for 50 years, AND when certain justices lied about their position on Roe v Wade, it is not surprising that the voters acted as they did.

As Jl correctly pointed out the youth believed the compliant press lie that SCOTUS banned abortions . 5 states yesterday adjusted their laws to the new reality. The people actually had a say instead of when Roe went down .

when certain justices lied about their position on Roe v Wade,Who? (Note to readers: There will be no answer to this question since...there is no answer to this question.)

There never was a "right" to an abortion other than what a liberal SC pulled out of thin air.

As Jl correctly pointed out the youth believed the compliant press lie that SCOTUS banned abortions .

The press did nothing of the sort. In fact, they went to great lengths to report the different results in all the states. Hardly compliant. As to the youth vote, exactly how do you know why they voted as they did? ESP?

The press did nothing of the sort. In fact, they went to great lengths to report the different results in all the states.
You have an opinion. We have an opinion.

Worth repeating.
when certain justices lied about their position on Roe v Wade,
Who? (Note to readers: There will be no answer to this question since...there is no answer to this question.)

Abortion rights driving young women to vote in midterms - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/video/abortion-rights-driving-young-women-to-vote-in-the-midterms/)

How abortion is mobilizing young voters beyond midterms elections – Scalawag (scalawagmagazine.org) (https://scalawagmagazine.org/2022/11/youth-vote-abortion/)

'Youthquake' voter turnout boosts Joe Biden as under-30s hold off Republican surge (telegraph.co.uk) (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/09/youth-voter-turnout-us-midterm-elections-2022-democrats/)

Abortion motivates Ohio State students in 2022 midterm election (dispatch.com) (https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/education/2022/11/07/abortion-motivates-ohio-state-students-in-2022-midterm-election/69531063007/)

For Young Voters, Abortion Still Looms Large - The American Prospect (https://prospect.org/politics/maine-for-young-voters-abortion-still-looms-large/)

Student debt isn't the sole reason young voters are voting in the midterms : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1128708379/student-debt-abortion-midterms)

https://msmagazine.com/2022/10/18/women-voters-midterm-elections-abortion/

Midterm Election: Local college students list the biggest issues that drove them to the polls (fox29.com) (https://www.fox29.com/news/midterm-election-college-students-say-abortion-was-the-biggest-issue-that-drove-young-voters-to-the-polls)

Abortion rights driving young women to vote in midterms - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/video/abortion-rights-driving-young-women-to-vote-in-the-midterms/)

How abortion is mobilizing young voters beyond midterms elections – Scalawag (scalawagmagazine.org) (https://scalawagmagazine.org/2022/11/youth-vote-abortion/)

'Youthquake' voter turnout boosts Joe Biden as under-30s hold off Republican surge (telegraph.co.uk) (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/09/youth-voter-turnout-us-midterm-elections-2022-democrats/)

Abortion motivates Ohio State students in 2022 midterm election (dispatch.com) (https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/education/2022/11/07/abortion-motivates-ohio-state-students-in-2022-midterm-election/69531063007/)

For Young Voters, Abortion Still Looms Large - The American Prospect (https://prospect.org/politics/maine-for-young-voters-abortion-still-looms-large/)

Student debt isn't the sole reason young voters are voting in the midterms : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2022/10/17/1128708379/student-debt-abortion-midterms)

https://msmagazine.com/2022/10/18/women-voters-midterm-elections-abortion/

Midterm Election: Local college students list the biggest issues that drove them to the polls (fox29.com) (https://www.fox29.com/news/midterm-election-college-students-say-abortion-was-the-biggest-issue-that-drove-young-voters-to-the-polls)


Ok, very good. You didn't use ESP. That explains where you got the youth vote. I stand corrected.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3886546#post3886546)
As Jl correctly pointed out the youth believed the compliant press lie that SCOTUS banned abortions .



The press did nothing of the sort.

The press led them to believe that abortion rights were banned and the Dems of course campaigned with a version of that narrative

Pelosi Statement on Supreme Court Overturning Roe v. Wade | Speaker Nancy Pelosi (https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/62422-1)

Today, the Republican-controlled Supreme Court has achieved the GOP’s dark and extreme goal of ripping away women’s right to make their own reproductive health decisions.
(Madam Mimi )


By ending national abortion rights, Supreme Court lights a fire in the 2022 election (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/ending-abortion-rights-supreme-court-lights-fire-2022-election-rcna35222)

Ending Roe vs. Wade opens the door to a nationwide abortion ban. But how likely is it? - ABC News (go.com) (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ending-roe-wade-opens-door-nationwide-abortion-ban/story?id=85947362)

Supreme Court gives states green light to ban abortion, overturning Roe - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-wade-00042244)

Supreme Court overturns constitutional right to abortion - SCOTUSblog (https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/supreme-court-overturns-constitutional-right-to-abortion/)

US supreme court overturns abortion rights, upending Roe v Wade | Abortion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/24/roe-v-wade-overturned-abortion-summary-supreme-court)

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ends constitutional protections for abortion | PBS NewsHour (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-wade-ends-constitutional-right-for-abortion)

U.S. Supreme Court Takes Away the Constitutional Right to Abortion | Center for Reproductive Rights (https://reproductiverights.org/supreme-court-takes-away-right-to-abortion/)

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ends federal abortion rights (cnbc.com) (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/24/roe-v-wade-overturned-by-supreme-court-ending-federal-abortion-rights.html)

On the ballot statewide was 5 different abortion votes . 3 states extended abortion rights and 2 states had abortion restrictions defeated .

I guess the majority of Americans favor killing babies .

Along with infanticide; these issues were voted for

New York, Michigan, Illinois and Pennsylvania they voted to release violent criminal without bail,

Medical tyranny. They voted for unnecessary and dangerous vaccine mandates for their children, for more mask mandates and lockdowns in the future if their dictator governors such as Kathy Hochul, J.B. Pritzker and Gretchen Whitmer so decide.

They voted for perpetual energy shortages .

They voted for open borders for illegal alien invaders .

The voted for the one world government reset

They voted for the woke ;crt ;LGBT++XYZ agenda.They voted to allow gender mutilations They voted for porno in their education curriculum

They voted for perpetual inflation and endless national debt .

"I would rather have my baby killed than be expected to exercise reproductive responsibility," would seem to be the mantra of many voters.

That explains where you got the youth vote. I stand corrected.I must confess that I was rather impressed with this. It was one of those ultra-rare moments on this site where someone acknowledged his/her own error.

Historian professor Victor Davis Hanson has a brilliant take on the election .

Tuesday Takeaways | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/10/tuesday_takeaways_148450.html)

The country is changing. The idea that truth is relative has taken hold and those who believe that resent being told that what they believe just may very well be wrong. Colleges are contributing greatly to that error.

John 18:38 (NKJV) -- Pilate said to Him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews, and said to them, “I find no fault in Him at all.


The idea that truth is relative
Your truth or my truth?

Your truth or my truth?Neither. THE truth.

Historian professor Victor Davis Hanson has a brilliant take on the election .

Tuesday Takeaways | RealClearPolitics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/11/10/tuesday_takeaways_148450.html)

You call that a brilliant idea. I call it far right propaganda. The guy HATES Hillary Clinton and IDOLIZES Donald Trump. What more does anyone need?

According to Hanson, the Democrat candidates in the 2022 election are all mediocre and media creations. The Republicans are statesmen. Hard to believe he would put such nonsense in writing for anyone to see.


John 18:38 (NKJV) -- Pilate said to Him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews, and said to them, “I find no fault in Him at all.

Apparently, Jesus found no fault in Pilate's question clearly implying truth is not the same for all. I.e., relative.

Apparently, Jesus found no fault in Pilate's question There are a number of statements made in the presence of Jesus which he did not reply to. A non-reply is far removed from, "Jesus found no fault." And that's especially true when you consider his declaration that, “I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life." There is no room in the Bible for this idea that truth and opinion are basically equivalent.

Apparently, Jesus found no fault in Pilate's question clearly implying truth is not the same for all. I.e., relative.

Woops. I put Pilate's words in the mouth of Jesus. That was a BIG no-no. Apologies to WG.

truth is absolute . There is no alternative to truth Pilot's relativism is gospel for the left

What? You don't accept the words of that famous early Christian leader, Pilate? [SARC]

truth is absolute . There is no alternative to truth
Your truth or mine?

You: The glass is half empty.
Me: The glass is half full.

yeah that was Pilot's question .

if truth is not absolute then there is no such thing as truth

yeah that was Pilot's question .

if truth is not absolute then there is no such thing as truth

Jesus according to John was claiming to be the truth. Pilate's question was not denying truth, he was asking what it is. Surely, that is a legitimate question. Jesus didn't answer.

You: The glass is half empty.
Me: The glass is half full.There is no contradiction there. It is simply two ways of describing the same truth and is certainly not two differing truths. If the glass has a capacity of one pint, then the glass has one cup of water in it in both cases.


I weigh 180 pounds.
I weigh 200 - 20 pounds.

There is no contradiction there.
What if one glass contains lemonade and the other vodka?

Then it is absolutely true that one contains one cup of lemonade and the other contains one cup of vodka. There are not two differing truths. They are both half-empty and half-full.

Thus, my truth is that Genesis 3 is an allegory. Your truth is that it happened exactly as described.

Both can be absolutely true. An historical account can be used in an allegorical manner. There is no contradiction there at all. Gal. 4:24 is the perfect example of that where it begins, "This is allegorically speaking."

Now if you claim the account is fictional while I claim it is historically factual, then both cannot be true. Our beliefs contradict, but not the truth. One of us would be right and the other wrong in that case. To claim, as you seem to, that both are true since, after all, we believe it to be so would be sheer silliness.

To claim, as you seem to, that both are true since, after all, we believe it to be so would be sheer silliness.
I didn't claim nuttin' -- just wondering how far you'd go in defining "what is truth?"

I guess now you know.

I didn't claim nuttin' -- just wondering how far you'd go in defining "what is truth?"

I think we can agree that truth is absolute (something can't be true and not true, so when a thing is true, it's always true (absolute), but the deeper question is how is the truth determined? "What is truth", said Pilate, meaning how do we know what it is.

For some things, it can be done. Science, for example. The charge of "relativism" of truth seems to revolve around deciding the morality of an action. How can a moral truth be determined? Religion? Reason? Consensus?

I don't know whether it has anything to do with absolute or relative truth, but time - which ordinary observation tells us is absolute - is actually relative.

Pilate did not ask Jesus what is truth . He was questioning himself. He did not wait for an answer . He went out to the mob to put his finger into the wind like a typical politician to find out what the mob thought was the truth . Then he washed his hands of the problem .To Pilate truth was absolutely relative .

It's hard to know what Pilate meant by his statement. It was perhaps meant sarcastically, but in any event was a response to the claims of Jesus.

"Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice." Pilate said to Him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews and said to them, “I find no guilt in Him."

When Jesus said he came to testify to the truth, then plainly truth must exist. The truth he testified to (proclaimed) was, I think it's safe to say, a moral truth, and so a set of moral absolutes.

Earlier Athos said, "Apparently, Jesus found no fault in Pilate's question clearly implying truth is not the same for all. I.e., relative." But now he says, "I think we can agree that truth is absolute (something can't be true and not true, so when a thing is true, it's always true (absolute)."

OK.

Lee Zeldin lost his race to be NY Guv. But his campaign had coat tails . NY added 4 Congressional seat to the Repubs .... this will put the Repubs in the majority in the House.

The NY Dems have only themselves to blame . They put out a gerrymandered redistricting map so outrageous that the highest court in the state ;the court of appeals smacked it down and redrew the map.

Say goodby to Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney the chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. He lost his seat in one of the new districts . btw he took a parting shot at All Out Crazy for her lack of participation in helping the Dems in NY .
"The last time I ran into A.O.C., we were beating her endorsed candidate two to one in a primary, and I didn’t see her one minute of these midterms helping our House majority. So, I’m not sure what kind of advice she has, but I’m sure she’ll be generous with it,"

6. Trump opened fire on DeSantis this week (Ron DeSanctimonious) which surprised me. I would think it makes it much more likely that DeSantis will run.

he continues this line of attack and has added Va Guv Glenn Yougkin in his cross hairs calling him "Young Kin" saying the name sounds Chinese .

So we know he sees these Guvs as the biggest threat to him for 2024.

Apparently he is also blaming Melania Trump for his decision to endorse Dr Oz. ;and Sean Hannity for giving him other bad advice on candidate endorsements . He later apologized to both.

He is being advised by his inner circle to delay his planned Nov 14 announcement by people concerned he could be a drag on Hershel Walker's chances in the GA run off.

Illinois Repubs are blaming Trump for their loss. That is a stretch in my view. The state is run the by the corrupt Chi town machine. They say he was a turn off for the burbs . They may have a point.

Chris Christie and Paul Ryan are calling out Trump too blaming him for the GOP poor showing .

he continues this line of attack and has added Va Guv Glenn Yougkin in his cross hairs calling him "Young Kin" saying the name sounds Chinese .One of the things I really dislike about Trump. He has never learned to control his mouth.

Pilate did not ask Jesus what is truth . He was questioning himself. He did not wait for an answer . He went out to the mob to put his finger into the wind like a typical politician to find out what the mob thought was the truth . Then he washed his hands of the problem .To Pilate truth was absolutely relative .

You're reading way too much into the story. You have no idea what Pilate thought about truth. In fact, he is reported to have asked a very simple question - What is truth? The question is hardly definitive as to relative or absolute. In fact, it's exactly the opposite.

Your politician bit is nonsense.


Chris Christie and Paul Ryan are calling out Trump too blaming him for the GOP poor showing .

The ship of the Trump MAGA cult is sinking. Bon voyage.

Earlier Athos said, "Apparently, Jesus found no fault in Pilate's question clearly implying truth is not the same for all. I.e., relative." But now he says, "I think we can agree that truth is absolute (something can't be true and not true, so when a thing is true, it's always true (absolute)."

OK.

Sorry so late in replying. This post has just been pointed out to me. I concentrate on Tomder's posts.


Jl has missed the essential viewpoint of each post (#s 29 and 44). In 29 quoted above, I am reporting what Jesus said and drawing a conclusion based on that. Nowhere did I offer agreement.


In the second post quoted above (#44), I am giving my opinion. There is no contradiction between #s 29 and 44.


(I should further note that my post #31 corrects an error I made in post 29 about the author of the words I quoted. They were the words of Pilate, not of Jesus. “I find no fault in him”. My post #29 was misleading for that reason, and I apologized to WG.)

This post has just been pointed out to me.That really amused me. Who is your "spy"???


Apparently, Jesus found no fault in Pilate's question clearly implying truth is not the same for all. I.e., relative.For this post 29, I would think that it's pretty hard to make the case that you were "drawing a conclusion" and then suggest you did not agree with your own conclusion. ("In 29 quoted above, I am reporting what Jesus said and drawing a conclusion based on that. Nowhere did I offer agreement.") I suppose you are now saying that it was "clearly implied" that Jesus was making that case, so you would have to also be saying that you did not agree with him. At any rate, I do understand that you misunderstood the passage and, it would seem, thought it was Jesus speaking at the end when in fact it was Pilate, so perhaps that explains it all, though it's still pretty muddled.


I think we can agree that truth is absolute.

This was a straightforward statement. So you have stated the obvious now that truth is absolute, and I can certainly agree with you in that regard. We can move on with at least that much established. I do thank you for the reply.

If MAGA Repubs were such a threat to democracy then why did the Dem machine spend $millions funding MAGA candidates ?

If MAGA Repubs were such a threat to democracy then why did the Dem machine spend $millions funding MAGA candidates ?

The answer has been shown many times. The MAGA extremists were funded in the primaries so that they would be easier to beat than any non-MAGA moderate candidates in the generals.

It worked in some isolated cases . But tough news for establishment Repubs and Dems then . The Repub majority House will have a solid bloc of Trump endorsed Freedom Caucus members

Your politician bit is nonsense No it is not . He said he found Jesus without guilt and still ordered his execution to appease the mob.

No it is not . He said he found Jesus without guilt and still ordered his execution to appease the mob.

Ok, I guess you have a point there.