I think we can all agree that this is a terrible event. Hopefully the man will fully recover.


Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul Pelosi 'violently assaulted' in San Francisco home, spokesperson says. Pelosi spokesperson says 'assailant is in custody,' motivation for San Francisco break-in under investigation.

I'm a little surprised that the Speaker's home has no security.

I wonder if assailant will get cashless bail

I wonder if assailant will get cashless bail
Apparently, he's a leftover from the January 6 crowd.

suspect is David DePape .Paul confronted him with a hammer . But he took the hammer from Paul and beat him with it .

What we need to do is confiscate every assault hammer in the country .


Apparently, he's a leftover from the January 6 crowd.

my info is that he is a gay nudist hippie from Berkley

my info is that he is a gay nudist hippie from Berkley
He's a right-wing extremist, now married to Gypsy Taub (who's divorced from Jamyz Smith).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_Taub

I'm a little surprised that the Speaker's home has no security.

Report says there is security only when she is there .

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3886022#post3886022) my info is that he is a gay nudist hippie from Berkley


Wondergirl;3886024]He's a right-wing extremist, now married to Gypsy Taub (who's divorced from Jamyz Smith).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_Taub

He's a loony tune right-wing nutcase, loves conspiracy theories, and is an election denier. Amazing how quickly the morons on the right placed him as a "leftist".

As an Independent, I have observed both sides and the right-wing is far more nutty than the left. The nuttiness extends to the highest levels on the right. Nothing like it has ever been seen before in this country.

Before Trump, I was a center-right independent/Republican. Like Pandora, Donald has opened the world to all the evils and crackpots that have been hiding under the rocks for so long. He wallows in the mud enjoying every minute.

To point out the sickness of Trump is to support the truth which is almost always the opposite of whatever Trump is proposing or saying. Hence, anti-Trump has incorrectly become "leftist" when it is simply main stream center.

Now that I have apprised all of you the truth about abortion, I note that tomder has picked the right baseball team to cheer. There's hope for you yet, T.

He's a right-wing extremistYeah. You know how all those "right-wing extremists" love to advance the cause of public nudity.


While in California, DePape was an activist who promoted public nudity in 2011 and 2012, California state Sen. Scott Wiener, recalled and told the San Francisco Chronicle. (https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/live-updates-paul-pelosi-attack-17541903.php)
DePape lived with Gypsy Taub, another nude activist, and her family. The Chronicle identified DePape (https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Naked-truth-behind-Gypsy-Taub-s-nude-nuptials-5070034.php#photo-5608313) in 2013 as a “hemp jewelry maker,” and “father figure” to Taub’s three children.
The group that DePape lived with also promoted conspiracy theories at the time, including the theory that 9/11 was “an inside job,” the Chronicle reported

I did not say leftist . But I did misread the posting . It says he shouted 'where's Nancy ?' ,and hit Paul with a hammer . I thought it said that he asked 'where's Nancy ?' and saw Paul hammered .

The left cheerlead riots in the summer of 2020 .They cheered the attack on Rand Paul .
They were giving out the addressed of conservative SCOTUS members so they could be attacked in their homes.

I see this as the left's chickens coming home to roost .


Jl makes a great point . The Pelosi crime family certainly enough wealth to have home security .

I thought it said that he asked 'where's Nancy ?' and saw Paul hammered .That one made me laugh out loud.

“hemp jewelry maker,” now there's MAGA for you

The left cheerlead riots in the summer of 2020 .They cheered the attack on Rand Paul .
They were giving out the addressed of conservative SCOTUS members so they could be attacked in their homes.

Both sides have much to be ashamed of, but the right outdoes the left by a wide margin, and the right includes the leadership which is not true of the left.


The Pelosi crime family certainly enough wealth to have home security .

Come on, tomder, stop with the crime family nonsense. It just makes you look dopey.

Both sides have much to be ashamed of, but the right outdoes the left by a wide margin, and the right includes the leadership which is not true of the left.Well that is certainly true. I mean just think of all those repub leaders who cheered on riots and attacks on liberal dem pols. There was...uhm, I'm talking about...so let's see, didn't xxx say something? It's not really important. After all, they SURELY must have said something,

Well that is certainly true. I mean just think of all those repub leaders who cheered on riots and attacks on liberal dem pols.
Especially the uprising at the Capitol on January 6.

Which was denounced by all repub leaders including Trump, so you still have nothing.

Which was denounced by all repub leaders including Trump, so you still have nothing.
"Denounced" by the very people who created and encouraged it.

"Denounced" by the very people who created and encouraged it.When you are shown to be plainly wrong, you double down with an even more outrageous falsehood. You have no more proof for that than you did for your previous statement.

Look it up . Her father was Baltimore pol . Thomas D'alessandro jr He was in the pocket of Mafioso Benjamin Magliano ....JFK called him a "constant companion" of Magliano . That Baltimore affiliate was associated with the Gambino family .

Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore . Charges were dropped when witnesses disappeared . Then the crime family relocated to California after they presided over the burning of Baltimore after the MLK assassination .

I have documented on a number of posts about how Paul's business profits from insider info provided by Madam Mimi

Look it up . Her father was Baltimore pol . Thomas D'alessandro jr He was in the pocket of Mafioso Benjamin Magliano ....JFK called him a "constant companion" of Magliano . That Baltimore affiliate was associated with the Gambino family .

Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore . Charges were dropped when witnesses disappeared . Then the crime family relocated to California after they presided over the burning of Baltimore after the MLK assassination .

I have documented on a number of posts about how Paul's business profits from insider info provided by Madam Mimi

Hmmm... I didn't know any of that. Maybe you have something. But it's hardly polite to include the Speaker of the House in all that. We're not responsible for our relatives.


"Denounced" by the very people who created and encouraged it.

After the Jan 6 Committee Hearings exposed Trump as the instigator and planner, it is highly likely the DOJ will indict the poor bastard. Stay tuned for the Trump perp walk and a baldie haircut courtesy of the Federales.

Hmmm... I didn't know any of that. Maybe you have something. But it's hardly polite to include the Speaker of the House in all that. We're not responsible for our relatives.Tom, you've gone from "dopey" to impolite. That's progress!!


After the Jan 6 Committee Hearings exposed Trump as the instigator and planner.Two wild tales in a row.

Mr. Pelosi is in surgery for a skull fracture. Prayers for his safe recovery.

Tom, you've gone from "dopey" to impolite. That's progress
Athos, not Tom, said that.

july Paul Pelosi purchased 20,000 shares of Nvidia, a semiconductor company, This purchase happened in the days before Congress passed a bipartisan bill to set aside $52 billion to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing and give tax credits for domestic production .

Nancy Pelosi's Husband Just Made a New Round of Big Stock Trades (businessinsider.com) (https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-stock-trades-paul-pelosi-nvidia-visa-apple-2022-7)

CHIPS Act clears Congress, ensuring $52 billion boost to US foundries - The Verge (https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/28/23282494/semiconductors-chips-and-science-act-joe-biden-congress-nvidia)

Madam Mimi has been a road block to ban stock trading by members of Congress .

Nancy Pelosi’s Defense of Political Insider Trading Is Orwellian (jacobin.com) (https://jacobin.com/2021/12/congress-owning-trading-stocks-corruption-aoc)

Due to the collaboration of Paul Pelosi's insider trading and Madam Mimi controlling the Congressional agenda for many years ; Madam Mimi ;according to her disclosure forms ,is worth more that $100 million on a $200,000 a year salary .

This is just one of many examples that the ruling members of the party of the have nots are in the highest levels of the bourgeoisies class . Bolshevik Bernie as an example lives a modest lifestyle in 3 homes (one in Vermont ;one in DC ;and a quaint rustic lakefront 4 bed room log cabin .Combined his properties are valued greater that $1.5 million. And he is one of the poorer of the Dems .

Trading stocks on information not publically known is insider trading and it is a crime. Don't believe me ? Just ask Martha Stewart .
But maybe like Evita trading cattle futures before him; Paul Pelosi is just a very lucky guy being married to one of the few elites where the rules do not apply

Athos, not Tom, said that.Yes, and he said it about Tom, and that was my point.

We won't divulge financial details about all those wealthy Republicans.

You must learn to keep up.
Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Steve Ballmer, Elon Musk, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Alice Walton were named as the wealthiest American citizens, all possessing a personal net worth of over 60 billion dollars.
Nearly all of them are closely affiliated with Democrat politics in various capacities.

We won't divulge financial details about all those wealthy Republicans. by all means do so . The Repubs in Congress who are as unethical as Madam Mimi are swamp critters that need to have the rock they hide under removed .

by all means do so . The Repubs in Congress who are as unethical as Madam Mimi are swamp critters that need to have the rock they hide under removed .Absolutely. As I've said, let the chips fall where they may. Protect no one.

july Paul Pelosi purchased 20,000 shares of Nvidia, a semiconductor company, This purchase happened in the days before Congress passed a bipartisan bill to set aside $52 billion to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing and give tax credits for domestic production .

dam Mimi has been a road block to ban stock trading by members of Congress .

etc., etc., etc., etc.,

and Madam Mimi controlling the Congressional agenda for many years ; Madam Mimi ;according to her disclosure forms ,is worth more that $100 million on a $200,000 a year salary .

Teve me ? Just ask Martha Stewart .
But maybe like Evita trading cattle futures before him; Paul Pelosi is just a very lucky guy being married to one of the few elites where the rules do not apply

The 82-year-old husband of Nancy Pelosi has his head battered with a hammer by a right-wing nutcase winding up in the hospital for brain surgery and you take this opportunity to bash his family.

That tells us more about you, tomder, than about Nancy Pelosi.

He and the Pelosi crime family have been milking the system for decades . I wish him well and hope for a speedy recovery . (I did not hear similar comments when Rand Paul was pummeled by his neighbor )

The attack on him opens a bunch of related legitimate discussion


Here's one ; His attacker will be charged and probably denied bail . He will not be released bail free. Congressman Lee Zeldin ;candidate for NY Guv. was attacked on stage and only escaped serious or perhaps fatal injury because he fought his attacker off . His attacker was initially released bail free and that was only reversed after tremendous pressure to do so.

Across the country Blue states and cities have adopted similar no bail provisions . Maybe now that a prominent Dem has been attacked perhaps it will highlight the need to reverse such folly positions .

Funny how some people are more concerned about a supposedly offensive statement against the Pelosi family than about the Pelosis milking the system for illegal gain.

The San Fran Chronical describes Depape as a prominent nudist activist and hemp jewelry maker from Berkeley, and a member of the Green Party......clothed only in his underwear .

Who is David DePape? How suspect in Paul Pelosi attack descended into online hate (sfchronicle.com) (https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/What-we-know-about-David-DePape-man-accused-of-17542056.php)

Not exactly your typical "right-wing nutcase".


Supposedly the neighborhood has security cameras all over the place. However in lawless San Fran ;even the elites are not immune from break ins .

Attorney Hammet Dhillon tweeted :

The level of security for most people in SF is at an all-time low in the 20+ years I’ve lived here. Even in wealthy neighborhoods, hot prowl burglaries are common, almost routine, no one feels secure. If this can happen to the Pelosis (where was security?) what about rest of us?

Harmeet K. Dhillon on Twitter: "We have been to many social events in the immediate vicinity as well. There are security cameras everywhere, and many homes have private security. Whatever happened, law enforcement should have plenty of evidence to get to the bottom of it and find the attacker(s)." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/pnjaban/status/1586038493775425536?s=20&t=mWPfvb8dn45XagLLkMqZSw)

I question why it would surprise her .The city turns a blind eye to crime when it mostly affects the poor and minority . Why wouldn't it eventually filter up to those who think they live in impenetrable castles ?

Not exactly your typical "right-wing nutcase"It is interesting that both of the libs on this site immediately ran with the conclusion that the man just had to be a right winger when, as it turns out, he was not. At least not unless the Green Party has suddenly moved itself dramatically to the right, and advancing public nudity has become a conservative talking point.

Curiouser and curiouser .

In back and forth radio chatter about the incident at the Pelosi home, one dispatcher said: “RP [Reporting Person Mr. Pelosi] stated that there’s a male in the home and that he’s going to wait for his wife. RP stated that he doesn’t know who the male is. Be advised that his name is David, and that he is a friend. RP sounded somewhat confused.”
Paul Pelosi Attack: Police Scanner Gives Eerie Insight Into Break-In (sfstandard.com) (https://sfstandard.com/criminal-justice/paul-pelosi-attack-police-scanner-recordings-give-eerie-insight-into-break-in/)

Look it up

I looked it up. It's basically a smear job to divert attention away from Paul Pelosi being brutally attacked in San Francisco. Your timing is repellent.


. Her father s Baltimore pol . Thomas D'alessandro jr He was in the pocket of Mafioso Benjamin Magliano

Smear. It was investigated and never corroborated. JFK appointed him to the Federal Renegotiation Board in 1961 despite the investigation into alleged associations. More smear.


Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore .

There is no record of any indictment nor charges being dropped when witnesses disappeared. I'll give you a chance to corroborate this.


. That Baltimore affiliate was associated with the Gambino family

So what? No connection, but you say it anyway. Shades of Joe McCarthy and his weasel Roy Cohn, Trump's idol.


Then the crime family relocated to California after they presided over the burning of Baltimore after the MLK assassination Dear God, this sounds like they absconded to California after starting the burning and looting and riots after MLK's assassination.


Tomder, you are without shame for posting this crap from over 50 years ago and which has nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi today. When will you ever learn that your lies and misstatements can always be checked and verified on the internet.

You are just like much of the right-wing who post BS with no basis in reality. I long for the days of decent Republicans. It is disheartening to discover so many are silent in the face of evil.

You are just like much of the right-wing who post BS with no basis in reality.Athos...always good for a laugh. No one offers up more unsupported nonsense than he does, and no one engages in more name calling than he does.


I looked it up. It's basically a smear job to divert attention away from Paul Pelosi being brutally attacked in San Francisco.Perfect example. It's just a smear job. How do we know that? "I looked it up." Oh, I see. If Athos looked it up, then why didn't he link or document what he found? We are just asked to believe him because...well, just because. Now perhaps his contention is true, but other than just accepting his word for it, we have nothing. And just taking his word for it is what he is claiming Tom wants.

Athos...always good for a laugh. No one offers up more unsupported nonsense than he does, and no one engages in more name calling than he does.
Athos is correct. It's very obvious actually.

Perfect example. It's just a smear job. How do we know that? "I looked it up."
No looking up is needed. Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.

Athos is correct. It's very obvious actually.

No looking up is needed. Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.And yet another perfect example. Name calling and unsupported statements are all that is offered. Sorry, but people with a whole brain expect you to support your ideas. But you are right in one way. We can certainly see what is going on here. It is indeed "very obvious". You have ideas for which you have no documentation.

If, as you say, "No looking up is needed," then why did Athos say he looked it up? Even he doesn't follow your advice.

And yet another perfect example. Name calling and unsupported statements are all that is offered.
When I post support, you twist and shout and cherrypick. Open your eyes and see it for yourself!!! It's out there, very visible.

nah If I was going to make an unsubstantiated claim I would say that Paulie and Davey were Greco-Roman wresting in their underwear and things got out of control . Hoping they got their monkey pox vaccine.

Notice no one refuted the insider trader claim I made . Oh that's right .It is not a crime because Madam Mimi prevented it from being a crime .

See what I mean? Any poor excuse is used to cover up the fact that you have no support at all. And like I said earlier, I'm not saying anyone is wrong because I don't know, but I do know that just saying we should believe you because, "It's out there, very visible" is a game for children. If that's true, then link it. Otherwise, don't expect people to just blindly accept your ideas.

I do know that just saying we should believe you because, "It's out there, very visible" is a game for children.
Open your eyes, sweet child!

Notice no one refuted the insider trader claim I made . Oh that's right .It is not a crime because Madam Mimi prevented it from being a crime .

I answered every claim you made in the post. There was no insider trade mentioned.

Another perfect example. You’re a flowing spring!! “Just take my word for it even though I’ve been caught speaking falsehoods before!”

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom/vgo/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?p=3886078#post3886078)
Notice no one refuted the insider trader claim I made . Oh that's right .It is not a crime because Madam Mimi prevented it from being a crime .



I answered every claim you made in the post. There was no insider trade mention

see#22

see#22

Saw it. My apologies. I was referencing a different post of yours. If what you say is true in that post, I will say so.

Meanwhile, what about some corroboration for your indictment charge and witness shenanigans against Pelosi's brother?

Trading stocks on information not publically known is insider trading and it is a crime.

See Tomder's post #22 for more details.

Nancy Pelosi DID use non-public information to trade in stock. However, it was not illegal when she did it. Both sides did it. President Obama signed The Stock Act making insider trading by members of Congress illegal just like any citizen. Paul Pelosi is an investment trader and his trades are legal. Nancy Pelosi's net worth of $50-100 million is from her husband's trading, not hers.

The appearance of impropriety with a Congress member's spouse trading is obvious.

Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fully support disallowing spouses to trade. As the former put it in May: “Every senator, member of Congress, president, Cabinet secretary, federal judge, and other senior officials in charge of writing the rules for our financial system should not be able to own or trade individual stocks.” “We are here to serve the public, not to profiteer,” argued AOC adding, “It’s shocking that it’s even been allowed up to this point.”

I am in full agreement with AOC on this matter. In any case, to the present discussion, nothing criminal has been alleged against Nancy Pelosi. Her argument that any member of Congress should be treated just like any American in a free market is a load of BS. She should find a copy of Frank Capra's MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON with Jimmy Stewart and study the lesson in that movie.

Got the brother wrong . It was her brother Franklin Delano Roosevelt D'Alesandro who with 13 other defendants was charged with participating in gang statutory rapes of 2 girls age 11 and 13 Every other participant in the gang rape was convicted except Franklin. He was also charged and acquitted of perjury. Asst. State's Atty. J Harold Grady said. of the case ;"In order to acquit this defendant You must be convinced these eight witness who appeared before you entered into a conspiracy and made up their story out of whole cloth."

Grand jury investigation into 1953 Baltimore rape acquittal of Franklin D. Roosevelt D'Allesandro - Newspapers.com (https://www.newspapers.com/clip/7074948/grand-jury-investigation-into-1953/)

This reply ought to be interesting.

Got the brother wrong . It was her brother Franklin Delano Roosevelt D'Alesandro who with 13 other defendants was charged with participating in gang statutory rapes of 2 girls age 11 and 13...... Asst. State's Atty. J Harold Grady said. of the case ;"In order to acquit this defendant You must be convinced these eight witness who appeared before you entered into a conspiracy and made up their story out of whole cloth."This is over 70 years ago! Is there a statute of limitations on how far back you can go to try to prove your point?

You've already given the answer. It's right there in your post. The brother was ACQUITTED of all statutory rape and perjury charges. Your quote from the attorney - presumably the loser - omits an important point. Namely, that a witness testified for the brother saying he could not have been there.

If you have evidence of wrong doing in the trial, you should bring it to the attention of the authorities. Otherwise, be careful of defaming another's character. It might happen to you.

However, this was your original post concerning the brother before you changed brothers.


Her brother Tommy followed in the old man's footsteps . But he got caught and was indicted for corruption while Mayor of Baltimore . Charges were dropped when witnesses disappeared .

You changed Tommy to Franklin saying you got the brother wrong. You seem to be confused about the whole business, including the brothers and who was charged with what.

In this post, one person has provided support while the other has not. Nuff said.

Why is every compliant press report of this incident loaded with the tales of 'unnamed sources ' ? Why hasn't the police bodycam footage of the incident been released ? Why did a crazed assaulter allow Paulie to take a bathroom break so he could call 9-1-1 ?
DePape is the custody of the San Francisco Police Department with no bail, inmate records show. He is being treated for injuries at a hospital, the SFPD said, and he will eventually be booked into jail. Police Chief Scott said he will not confirm nor deny if DePape was placed under a “5150,” meaning, a psychiatric hold.
“The suspect is still in the hospital. It’s not appropriate for me to release any of the suspect’s medical information,” Scott said Friday evening. “We intend to book the suspect. He will be booked for felony charges.”

David Depape: Who is the suspect who attacked Paul Pelosi? (kron4.com) (https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/who-is-david-depape-pelosi-attack-suspect-reveled-in-conspiracy-theories/)

What are his injuries :?

Yeah. It certainly gives the appearance of something fishy going on.

Why is every compliant press report of this incident loaded with the tales of 'unnamed sources ' ? Why hasn't the police bodycam footage of the incident been released ? Why did a crazed assaulter allow Paulie to take a bathroom break so he could call 9-1-1 ?
DePape is the custody of the San Francisco Police Department with no bail, inmate records show. He is being treated for injuries at a hospital, the SFPD said, and he will eventually be booked into jail. Police Chief Scott said he will not confirm nor deny if DePape was placed under a “5150,” meaning, a psychiatric hold.
“The suspect is still in the hospital. It’s not appropriate for me to release any of the suspect’s medical information,” Scott said Friday evening. “We intend to book the suspect. He will be booked for felony charges.”

David Depape: Who is the suspect who attacked Paul Pelosi? (kron4.com) (https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/who-is-david-depape-pelosi-attack-suspect-reveled-in-conspiracy-theories/)

What are his injuries :?

I absolutely agree that the press reports (press, not compliant press) are confusing. Some of the reasons you mentioned. However, implying conspiracy based on compliance is ridiculous. More likely, you're suffering from paranoia.

Initial reports about an event are often muddled, but they eventually iron out. Are you aware that the far right is calling this a "false flag" - that Nancy Pelosi engineered the attack herself, putting her husband in the hospital with brain damage?

Millions believe that. I hope you're not one of them.

no I'm more into the late night, oiled up ,Greko-Roman wresting match getting out of control theory .

no I'm more into the late night, oiled up ,Greko-Roman wresting match getting out of control theory .

Good for you.....

It would not be the 1st time he rear ended someone .

It would not be the 1st time he rear ended someone .

I'm not even going to ask what this means!

Nancy Pelosi's husband sentenced for drink-driving crash - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62654667)

Nancy Pelosi's husband sentenced for drink-driving crash - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62654667)

I'm aware of that, but I still don't get the connection to the assault.

Wikipedia: In 1957, when Pelosi was still a minor, a car that he was driving was involved in an accident. His older brother David, who was a passenger in the car, died in the crash; Pelosi was subsequently acquitted of misdemeanor manslaughter (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdemeanor_manslaughter).[14] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Pelosi#cite_note-nytimes_dui-14)

Wikipedia: In 1957, when Pelosi was still a minor, a car that he was driving was involved in an accident. His older brother David, who was a passenger in the car, died in the crash; Pelosi was subsequently acquitted of misdemeanor manslaughter (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdemeanor_manslaughter).[14] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Pelosi#cite_note-nytimes_dui-14)

I'm no wiser.

Was alcohol involved? They were teens. Has Pelosi struggled with alcoholism his entire life? This librarian is researching.

I have nothing else to add about his private life at this time .
When more info makes it to the web and so called reliable sources I'll comment further

Besides ;the real thing everyone should take from this attack is how Dem controlled cites are becoming lawless. In San Fran it has gotten so bad that even the rich and powerful are not immune.


Was alcohol involved? They were teens. Has Pelosi struggled with alcoholism his entire life? This librarian is researching.

yes and most likely involved in this incident too based on the 9-1-1 call report .

yes and most likely involved in this incident too based on the 9-1-1 call report .
How do you figure?

Besides ;the real thing everyone should take from this attack is how Dem controlled cites are becoming lawless. In San Fran it has gotten so bad that even the rich and powerful are not immune.Exactly correct.

I have nothing else to add about his private life at this time

Ok, good.


(alcohol) yes and most likely involved in this incident too based on the 9-1-1 call report

You just said you had nothing further to add!!


Besides ;the real thing everyone should take from this attack is how Dem controlled cites are becoming lawless. In San Fran it has gotten so bad that even the rich and powerful are not immune.

Come on, urban areas always have high crime rates. Pelosi was not attacked because he is rich and powerful. He was attacked because he is the husband of Nancy Pelosi.

Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House of Representatives in the Congress of the United States of America who was a target for the Trump insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the same United States of America. The Trump insurrectionists wanted to kill her along with Mike Pence. As Yogi would say, "You could look it up!".

Besides, the rural and small town Republican areas have a rise in crime rates also. How do you explain that?

Trump insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the same United States of America. The Trump insurrectionists wanted to kill her along with Mike Pence.Gross exaggeration, thy name is Athos. "Look it up?" OK, I'll take a shot at it.

So far as I have been able to find out, two of the rioters who entered the Capitol building have been charged with possession of firearms. None of them ever fired a shot. So if this was indeed an insurrection, it was certainly a pathetically weak one. There seems to have been no planning and no command or coordination. The people were essentially unarmed and never threatened any member of Congress with death or assault. I know of no evidence of any intent to kill anyone, but if anyone can point to some, then by all means do so.

Jill Sanborn, an FBI official, in her sworn testimony to a Senate committee investigating the riot said this when asked how many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on its grounds on Jan. 6. “To my knowledge we have not recovered any on that day from any of the arrests at the scene at this point. But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but to my knowledge none.”

Sanborn later noted that investigators found a firearm in a search of a vehicle that also had Molotov cocktails. The only shots fired that day, she said, were from an officer who shot and killed a woman inside the Capitol.

Fact check: FBI says bureau didn't recover guns at Capitol riot (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/04/fact-check-fbi-says-bureau-didnt-recover-guns-capitol-riot/4578286001/)

Perhaps the great, unanswered question concerns why the security for the Congress was so weak.

If someone want to criticize Trump for taking far, far too long to tell the demonstrators to go home, then I'm with you on that one.

Jl inconvenient facts . Most of the "insurrectionists " entered the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies .

Most of the "insurrectionists " entered the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies .

Tomder, you can't possibly be serious about this. After over a year of PROVEN documentation - visual, audio, paper, and over 800 arrests EIGHT HUNDRED!!!!!) - you still think it was just a bunch of folks "entering the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies"? Please say it ain't so, Tomder.

When you write things like this, it makes all of us wonder what else do you have such a wildly incorrect take on.

Excited, happy tourists on January 6!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vbBIcwn6rRA

In this morning's newspaper:

WASHINGTON — The man accused of attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband carried zip ties with him when he broke into the couple’s San Francisco home,

Excited, happy tourists on January 6!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vbBIcwn6rRA

Anyone who watches that video and says it was "selfie picture taking" is a major problem. After so much time has passed, we now know the problem is less with the insurrectionists (they can be jailed, and are) but the viewers like Tomder who deny the evidence of their own eyes which has become the greater problem.

Not content with violence, they are now sabotaging any future election that don't like. It is definitely a FACT that they are trying to eliminate democracy for an authoritarian system of government which will soon become fascism. This is NOT hyperbole.

Tomder, you can't possibly be serious about this. After over a year of PROVEN documentation - visual, audio, paper, and over 800 arrests EIGHT HUNDRED!!!!!) - you still think it was just a bunch of folks "entering the Capitol armed with cameras to take selfies"?If it's all so "proven", then present the documentation to bake up that claim...like I did to back up mine.


WASHINGTON — The man accused of attacking House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband carried zip ties with him when he broke into the couple’s San Francisco home,Uhm...that had nothing to do with the 1/6 conversation. Besides, that man was a Green party, pro public nudity dingbat and hardly a right winger.

As to your video, it was certainly disturbing and should never have happened. However, did you notice guns? Did you notice any real organization? Did you notice any armed attack resembling an insurrection? Did you see the part where a congressman/woman was threatened? In other words, where were the elements of a true insurrection???

How about the part where police reinforcements were called in, or where the National Guard, having wisely been prepositioned, were called in to help? Yeah, I didn't see that either. Wonder why not?

If it's all so "proven", then present the documentation to bake up that claim...like I did to back up mine.
Yep, gotta "bake up" those claims.

As to your video, it was certainly disturbing and should never have happened. However, did you notice guns? Did you notice any real organization? Did you notice any armed attack resembling an insurrection? Did you see the part where a congressman/woman was threatened? In other words, where were the elements of a true insurrection???
You want the video where the members of Congress are herded to safety? The part showing where pee and poop are splashed and smeared on floors and walls? The insurrectionists climbing ladders outside in order to break Capitol windows and gain access? The entering of offices and trashing them, especially the video of the guy who plopped himself down into Pelosi's desk chair and paged through papers and journals? And so much more.

No, I'd just settle for some answers to these questions. Now since you never have the courage to do that, then I know you won't. Still...


As to your video, it was certainly disturbing and should never have happened. However, did you notice guns? Did you notice any real organization? Did you notice any armed attack resembling an insurrection? Did you see the part where a congressman/woman was threatened? In other words, where were the elements of a true insurrection???

How about the part where police reinforcements were called in, or where the National Guard, having wisely been prepositioned, were called in to help? Yeah, I didn't see that either. Wonder why not?

Of course, you do have an excellent point about the poop and pee. As we all know, all successful insurrections have been led by the "poop and pee" brigade. [SARC]

In case it has gone unnoticed, my objection is not to calling the 1/6 riot a terrible incident. I completely agree with that. My objection is to describing it as, "Trump insurrectionists who tried to overthrow the duly-elected government of the same United States of America. The Trump insurrectionists wanted to kill her along with Mike Pence." That is just childish hyperbole.

800 mostly trespassing arrests . The most prominent charges is "Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building." some have disorderly conduct added . I don;t see any charges involving firearms .

and this guy should be charged with inappropriate attire in the Capitol
https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/663617a/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x773+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F76%2F72%2 F9eb1f0854d839203f2b83dcd5fd9%2Fgettyimages-1294935351-1.jpg

I don't know about that. Doesn't E. Warren dress that way sometimes in honor of her 1/10 of 1% Native heritage?

JL, what was that mob doing at the Capitol on that lovely January day?



https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/663617a/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x773+0+0/resize/630x420!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F76%2F72%2 F9eb1f0854d839203f2b83dcd5fd9%2Fgettyimages-1294935351-1.jpg
Typical tourist. Geez, give him a break, tomder!

"Hang Mike Pence!"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94

The guy sprawled in Pelosi's desk chair:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1dsex9dMZ60

JL, what was that mob doing at the Capitol that lovely January day?The vast majority were peaceful protestors. A significant number were basically rioting, you know like the rioters in Ferguson and a dozen other cities that you have been so critical of??? NOT!

No one will ever accuse you of being an equal opportunity criticizer.

The vast majority were peaceful protestors.
Yeah, watch the videos of those peaceful protesters. Would you want them at your birthday party?

4 x Emmy Award winning ;3 x Edward R Murrow Award winning reporter Bill Melugin is reporting that according to his ICE sources ; DePape is an illegal immigrants as a longtime visa overstay .

He must be one of those 'sparks of divinity' that Madam Mimi refers to

Yeah, watch the videos of those peaceful protesters. Would you want them at your birthday party?Yep. It just sailed right over the ole head.


4 x Emmy Award winning ;3 x Edward R Murrow Award winning reporter Bill Melugin is reporting that according to his ICE sources ; DePape is an illegal immigrants as a longtime visa overstay Would not be a surprise at all, but it would sure be justice in action if true.

Just in --

The man who broke into the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (https://www.yahoo.com/news/speaker-pelosi-husband-paul-violently-assaulted-san-francisco-home-125621392.html) and attacked her husband with a hammer told authorities he planned on breaking her kneecaps and he viewed her as “the leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party, according to court documents (https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download).

The man who broke into the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (https://www.yahoo.com/news/speaker-pelosi-husband-paul-violently-assaulted-san-francisco-home-125621392.html) and attacked her husband with a hammer told authorities he planned on breaking her kneecaps and he viewed her as “the leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party, according to court documents (https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download).

The Justice Department charged David DePape with the attempted kidnapping of a federal officer and assault of the immediate family member of a federal officer on Monday afternoon.

Authorities allege that DePape broke into Pelosi’s San Francisco residence early Friday morning and assaulted her husband with a hammer. The congresswoman was in Washington, D.C., at the time of the attack, and Paul Pelosi continues to recover from surgery at a local hospital.

In the criminal complaint released Monday, an FBI special agent stated that during DePape’s interview with police, he claimed that he was going to hold Nancy Pelosi hostage and talk to her. If she told the truth, he would let her go, but if she lied, he would break her kneecaps. DePape said his assumption was that Pelosi would lie to him, and he viewed her as the “‘leader of the pack’ of lies told by the Democratic Party,” according to the complaint.

“DePape also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other members of Congress there were consequences to actions,” read the filing.

So an illegal alien, member of the Green Party, an advocate for public nudity, and reportedly one with decidedly liberal views, determines that he wants NP to tell the truth. Hmmm. Sounds like that sentiment is spreading even to left-wingers! That's good news.

800 mostly trespassing arrests .

Wrong. Again!

Almost 1,000 arrests, longest prison term so far 60 months, 14 arrested for seditious conspiracy, 4 cop suicides, 1 rioter dead, 1 cop dead, 150+ police injuries, 80+ charged with deadly weapons. Stated purpose of the insurrectionists was to overthrow the government. Yelled death to Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi.

Your comment of no firearms is right out of QANON. A deadly weapon does not have to be a firearm, although 4 were photographed carrying firearms. Ever get a fire extinguisher thrown at you? Or be assaulted with a flagpole? Over 80 have been charged with the use of deadly weapons.

I'm curious, tomder. Are you an election denier?

80+ charged with deadly weapons flag poles such is the weapon of an insurgency . Did they forget their pitch forks ?

I'm curious, tomder. Are you an election denier?
Nope elections have been stolen in this country before and results accepted . I bet you support election deniers like Evita and Stacy Abrams .

Back to Paulie
Now that DePape has been charged how about releasing
the audio of the 9-1-1 call
the responding officers body cams
toxicology reports
images of the broken door has the shattered glass outside the house and not inside as would normally happen from an outside break in ,
What do security cameras from the Pelosi house or their neighbors show ?
Initial reports say that a 3rd party opened the door for the police . Now we are told only 2 people were there Initial reports say that the police were responding to a "wellness check " not a break in . Why that discrepancy ? Paulie called 9-1-1 from his bathroom . If he felt threatened surely he would've mentioned that to the dispatcher .

Well at least I can figure out how an illegal alien lived in the city for decades . San Fran is a sanctuary city .

Back to Paulie
Now that DePape has been charged how about releasing
the audio of the 9-1-1 call
the responding officers body cams
toxicology reports
images of the broken door has the shattered glass outside the house and not inside as would normally happen from an outside break in ,
What do security cameras from the Pelosi house or their neighbors show ?
Initial reports say that a 3rd party opened the door for the police . Now we are told only 2 people were there Initial reports say that the police were responding to a "wellness check " not a break in . Why that discrepancy ? Paulie called 9-1-1 from his bathroom . If he felt threatened surely he would've mentioned that to the dispatcher .Yes. I have a funny feeling there is a reason we haven't seen much of that yet.

zip ties not ok for Pelosi but ok for Kavanaugh
Man with gun, knife arrested near Justice Kavanaugh's house (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/man-gun-arrested-justice-kavanaughs-residence-rcna32535)

mum was the word

Media Uninterested in Kavanaugh Assassination Attempt (dailysignal.com) (https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/06/09/the-eerie-silence-around-kavanaugh-assassination-attempt/)

It took 3 days in the instant information age for officials to clarify and /or retract some "facts "
Paulie did not know his attacker
Paulie and DePape were not wrestling in their underwear.
The door to the Pelosi mansion was not opened by a 3rd party
They were not having a duel of hammers .It was only one hammer.

Missing still is
audio of the 9-1-1 call.
bodycams of the responding police
video surveillance from the Pelosi mansion (yeah ok they had an elevator in the house but no security system ...... gimme a break !)

We now know the Trumpie right wing extremist who attacked Paulie lived in a bus with BLM banners and a gay rights flag on it.

I guess in time we will get further 'clarification'

In Arizona, the democrat candidate for governor had her office burglarized. She naturally wanted to blame the repub candidate, Kari Lake. Come to find out that was not the case. "On Thursday, Phoenix Police Department (PPD) arrested a homeless man charged with burglarizing Democratic gubernatorial candidate Katie Hobbs’ office. Hobbs accused (https://azfreenews.com/2022/10/kari-lake-katie-hobbs-blame-for-campaign-burglary-is-absurd/) her opponent, Kari Lake, of inciting the break-in."

So now that it's apparent that her initial attack on Lake has gone up in smoke, she wants to change the subject. "Katie Hobbs when asked about the campaign office burglary & what items were taken/if there’s reason to believe it was politically motivated: 'I’m not talking about it.'"

At campaign event, Lake mocks attack.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-gop-nominee-kari-lake-034544263.html

In the wake of Friday’s attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul, at the couple’s San Francisco home, some Republicans have seen fit to either joke about the incident or promote unfounded conspiracy theories about it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/prominent-republicans-push-conspiracy-theories-about-attack-on-nancy-pelosis-husband-214138527-214138311.html

This was the quote in your article.


"Asked about school security, Lake suggested the protection afforded to federal lawmakers should be available to students, as well."Nancy Pelosi, well, she’s got protection when she’s in D.C. — apparently her house doesn’t have a lot of protection," Lake said (https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1587182585557684225?s=20&t=58kGlihS8RXw2R-AMVLqEQ) at a campaign event in Scottsdale, Arizona, sparking laughter from many in attendance.
Lake then said, "If our lawmakers can have protection, if our politicians can have protection, if our athletes, then certainly the most important people in our lives — our children — should have protection."
So did she say something untrue? What was "mocking" about that observation?

First paragraph, jl:
"The Republican nominee for governor of Arizona, Kari Lake (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/kari-lake-refuses-say-whether-accept-loss-arizona-election-rcna52475), made light of the attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband in remarks at a campaign event Monday, drawing laughter from the audience."

As to your other link, I don't care for the suggestions about PP supposedly being engaged in some sort of sexual arrangement, but that's why we are calling for the police bodycam footage to be released as well as the 911 calls. It does seem strange that they have not done so.


"The Republican nominee for governor of Arizona, Kari Lake (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/kari-lake-refuses-say-whether-accept-loss-arizona-election-rcna52475), made light of the attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband in remarks at a campaign event Monday, drawing laughter from the audience."Yes, that's what your left-wing journalist observed. That was her opinion, but I asked you about the remarks actually made by Lake. So I'll ask again. Did she say something that was untrue? In what way did she mock or make light of the attack???

Paul Pelosi is 82 years old (will be 83 in April), was sound asleep at break-in time a bit after 2 a.m. Um, let me know, jl, when you get to be that age as to how many sexual arrangements you have at 2 a.m. And yes, undoubtedly he had to pee.

That's all fine and good, but you still are evading the question, so I'll ask again. Did she say something that was untrue? In what way did she mock or make light of the attack???

I ask that secure in the knowledge that, as is nearly always the case, you will dodge the uncomfortable question.


was sound asleep at break-in time a bit after 2 a.mHow do you know he was sound asleep at the time of the breakin?


sexual arrangementsI haven't suggested or even hinted that I believe that was the case. It would be nice if you would stop making it up as you go along,

This was the quote in your article.

So did she say something untrue? What was "mocking" about that observation?
You missed the mock, O Cherry-Picker!


How do you know he was sound asleep at the time of the breakin?

If he wasn't asleep, it was because he was reaching for his urinal next to the bed.

Oh well. You don't have the courage to answer, preferring instead to resort to your tiresome and childish "cherry-picking" absurdity, and I don't have the patience to ask a FOURTH time, so I'll leave it with you.

Oh well. You don't have the courage to reread the article, preferring instead to resort to your tiresome and childish downputting, and I don't have the patience to wait any longer for a response, so off I go to do something important -- I've got cornbread to bake, a client's vampire romance to edit, "Jeopardy" to watch, and my primary doctor's wellness questionnaire to fill out and return.

And yet another strange development in a strange case.


Officers from the U.S. Capitol Police (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/crime/police-and-law-enforcement) have live video surveillance outside the Pelosi's San Francisco residence, but weren't watching it when David DePape, 42, allegedly attacked Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, sources tell Fox News.
The officers were monitoring a live-feed of many cameras, which include surveillance of the capitol complex, but also monitor some points away from the capitol, which include the Pelosi residence (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/nancy-pelosi).
According to sources, an officer was monitoring the feeds and saw police lights on a dark street outside the Pelosi's residence. When going through surveillance footage, the officer saw the alleged attack on Oct. 28, when DePape allegedly struck Paul Pelosi, people briefed on the incident said, according to the report.
Not exactly another big win for the Capitol Police.

it was lunch break

https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/16/13/761212634-how_convenient_church_lady.jpg

I wonder if they will stop watching video surveillance of Depape's prison cell ala Jeffrey Epstein ?

I doubt we will ever see Depape publicly again.... like many of the Jan 6 protesters who are held in GITMO like conditions .

You never know what to expect from those extreme right-wing Capitol Police. Next thing you know, they'll be letting a group of Trump supporters take over the Capitol Building and then start calling it an insurrection!

It just gets curiouser and curiouser.


NBC News caused a firestorm on social media after it retracted its explosive reporting on last week's attack of Paul Pelosi. On Friday's installment of "Today," NBC News national correspondent Miguel Almaguer went viral for stunning revelations of what apparently transpired when police arrived to Pelosi's San Francisco home.

"Sources familiar with what unfolded in the Pelosi residence now revealing when officers responded to the 'high priority call,' they were seemingly unaware they've been called to the home of the Speaker of the House," Almaguer told viewers. "After a 'knock and announce,' the front door was opened by Mr. Pelosi. The 82-year-old did not immediately declare an emergency or tried to leave his home but instead began walking several feet back into the foyer toward the assailant and away from police. It's unclear if the 82-year-old was already injured or what his mental state was, say sources."



Paul and Nancy Pelosi on April 25, 2015, in Washington, D.C.; Image shows FBI agents outside the home of Nancy and Paul Pelosi on Oct. 28, 2022. (Dimitrios Kambouris/VF15/WireImage ; Fox News)

"According to court documents, when the officer asked what was going on, defendant smiled and said 'everything's good' but instantaneously a struggle ensued as police clearly saw David DePape strike Paul Pelosi in the head with a hammer. After tackling the suspect, officers rushed to Mr. Pelosi who was lying in a pool of blood," Almaguer continued.

Paul was correct to act friendly-ish with a home invader who was wielding a hammer. I would have offered him a snack and "plotted" with him for when Nancy returns home.

JL, message me when you are 82.

The curious aspect was why NBC posted the story and then, a few hours later, decided to take it down. I'm not saying there is definitely something being hidden, but it does look suspicious. Where is the body cam footage from the police or the 911 tapes?

If I was fearful for my life and the cops finally showed up, I'd go out the door quickly and let them deal with the perp. To smile and say, "Everything's good," just strikes me as very strange.

None of it adds up. He supposedly broke a window to gain entrance. This is the Speaker of the House's residence, and yet there is no security to detect that break in? The house was not being actively monitored? It just has a lot of strange aspects.

Evidently PP was not armed and thus was unable to defend himself. There is a lesson to be learned there for sure.

This is the Speaker of the House's residence, and yet there is no security to detect that break in?
There ARE live cameras. This particular one at the break-in site wasn't manned at the time. The cop was on a potty break?

There ARE live cameras. This particular one at the break-in site wasn't manned at the time.Yes, I had mentioned that earlier. That no one was bothering to man the monitor is pretty curious itself.

Yes, I had mentioned that earlier. That no one was bothering to man the monitor is pretty curious itself.
Who wants to sit behind a camera all night??? Boring, boring, boring. We have security cameras and use them to watch for the arrival of our late-night dinner guests (Sally Skunk, Ricky Raccoon, Randy Raccoon, and little Peter Possum). They enjoy the Temptation treats and cat food that Mattie the Cat (our indoor cat) won't eat.

We certainly don't keep our eyes glued to EZ-VIZ (the cameras) otherwise.

Who wants to sit behind a camera all night???Yeah. After all, it's only the residence of one of the most powerful people in our government and the person second in line to the presidency. Why would anyone bother to consider that job to be important? They could say, "Hey! WG doesn't monitor her home camera all the time, so why should we do this?" [SARC EXTREME]

I could tell them how to attract wildlife for late-night dinners -- so there'd be fun activity to watch. Or do like my husband did. Set up a computer monitor (or a tv) next to the security screen, so they can easily watch both. This is NOT difficult!

If I ever have the opportunity, I'll tell the Capitol Police to go by your house for a little instruction. Then the Speaker could really sleep well at night, knowing that the cops were monitoring the house while they were watching a replay of the Super Bowl at the same time.

As long as they aren't watching an x-rated movie that they've torrented. And I would instruct them in how to psych out any trespassers!

an x-rated movie that they've torrented.Huh?

Maybe they could watch the latest porn movie from Stacey Abrams!! "The Naughty Governor"

And definitely don't give Paul a gun to keep under his mattress or on his nightstand. In suddenly awakened grogginess, who knows who or what he'd shoot -- Nancy returning early? A guard doing a check?

Yeah. Not having a gun sure worked out well, didn’t it?

He wudda shot hisself in his foot.

As opposed to being hit in the head with a hammer. Great plan you got there. I tell you what. You can count on the police who aren't there, and I'll count on a firearm that is here.

That whole "hit on the head with a hammer" adventure has some weirdnesses in it too.

I'll count on my knowledge of and experience with mentally ill people.

I'll count on my knowledge of and experience with mentally ill people.Right.

Who wants to sit behind a camera all night??? Boring, boring, boring.

Except for the fact that it is their job. Imagine an air traffic controller needing a "potty break " and not having their station manned in their absence .


definitely don't give Paul a gun to keep under his mattress or on his nightstand. In suddenly awakened grogginess, who knows who or what he'd shoot -- Nancy returning early?

For a second I thought you wrote eerily . Madam Mimi waking him up sounds like a Halloween like nightmare to me . Then again ;if she returned home early who knows what she would find .

oh the outrage ! . The left chatter class is still calling this a MAGA attack even though DePape is a druggie ,illegal alien ,lefty ,nudist ,who flies gay pride and BLM banners .

They are decrying attacks on politicians even though they cheerlead attacks on right wing politicians like Rand Paul .
Some examples
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The left chatter class is still calling this a MAGA attackTDS..the gift that keeps on giving.

Madam Mimi waking him up sounds like a Halloween like nightmare to me . Then again ;if she returned home early who knows what she would find .

You couldn't be any creepier by writing crap like this after an 82-year-old man is nearly killed by a Trumpist nutcase. What's wrong with you?

Trumpist nutcase. What's wrong with you?What do you know of that connects this man with Trump?


The left chatter class is still calling this a MAGA attack even though DePape is a druggie ,illegal alien ,lefty ,nudist ,who flies gay pride and BLM banners .Prophetic, as it turned out?

All we need to quell rumors is transparency ....or do you really believe that the Capitol Police just happened to take their eyes off of the video feed just as Madam Mimi's home was being broken into and Paulie was being assaulted ? Sounds like an Epstein deal to me .

What could be more boring than having your attention glued for x number of hours to a camera screen that is focused on part of the exterior of a house that's occupied by an 82 y/o man who is asleep?

I'll repeat . It is their job ! You know what is boring ? Sitting on a pharmaceutical production line staring at a magnifying glass as ampules role by on a conveyor ;making sure the liquid in the ampule has no foreign microscopic fibrous materials in it . IT is their job so they do it day in and day out .

What could be more boringJust an incredible statement. "I stopped watching the Speaker's house since I just got kind of bored." What???

Here is the NBC Pelosi report that was mysteriously scrubbed and deleted by NBC news. They still have not explained why. Why does it remind me of the FBI instructing the media to ignore the Hunter Biden hard drive story in the last pres election?

Tucker Carlson: NBC doesn't want you to see this - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJtqVuLSx-Q)

Thou shalt not report news that makes a dem look bad!!


NBC News national correspondent Miguel Almaguer hasn't appeared (https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-blasted-critics-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-report-questions-persist-done-damage) on the network in 11 days since his explosive report on the Paul Pelosi attack was retracted, but he and NBC News have remained silent since the scrubbing of his report suggesting the House Speaker’s husband may not have been in danger when police arrived.

The ordeal has puzzled NBC News insiders, with some believing the report was squashed because it went against the mainstream narrative. A former senior NBC News executive who worked with Almaguer believes the network needs to explain what’s going on.In addition, the Pelosi attack bodycam footage and 911 recordings remain undisclosed. One Depape goes to trial, it is hard to imagine how that will remain the case.

Why was Almaguer suspended? Was it for erring in his reporting?.....or
was it for interfering with the Dems talking points in the lead up to the mid-terms ?

The left wing Daily Beast also reported on this . But their big concern was that it inflamed right-wing conspiracy theories

NBC News Suspends Miguel Almaguer, Reporter Behind Retracted Paul Pelosi Story (thedailybeast.com) (https://www.thedailybeast.com/nbc-news-suspends-miguel-almaguer-reporter-behind-retracted-paul-pelosi-story)

it inflamed right-wing conspiracy theoriesWhere there's smoke...

REPORT: Paul Pelosi Seen Opening Door for Police on Body Cam Video as Originally Reported – PJ Media (https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2022/11/17/report-paul-pelosi-seen-opening-door-for-police-on-body-cam-video-as-originally-reported-n1646664)

The first is whether NBC News will rescind and apologize for Almaguer’s unjustified suspension. The second is whether NBC News will un-scrub Almaguer’s original report, which now seems to have been factually correct — if politically inconvenient.Gonna go way out on a limb here and guess "no" and "Really No!"

REPORT: Paul Pelosi Seen Opening Door for Police on Body Cam Video as Originally Reported – PJ Media (https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2022/11/17/report-paul-pelosi-seen-opening-door-for-police-on-body-cam-video-as-originally-reported-n1646664)

Give it up, tomder, you're looking ridiculous. The right is feasting on the conspiracy theories they love so well to detract from the facts re the attack on Paul Pelosi.

Was the surgery on Mr. Pelosi's skull a conspiracy from the hospital surgeon? Were the police, drivers, medicos, media all in collusion to fabricate the attack?

As usual, your political slip is showing.

Transparency would remove all doubts Why was the NBC reporter suspended for reporting the truth ?

Transparency would remove all doubts Why was the NBC reporter suspended for reporting the truth ?Exactly, and it is telling that the liberals on this site have no interest in that kind of transparency. It's the same reason they are fearful of transparency about the Hunter B laptop scandal and all of the other events surrounding that story. The truth can always withstand scrutiny. It's lies and liars that need to fear it.

Transparency would remove all doubts Why was the NBC reporter suspended for reporting the truth ?

The only doubt is in your mind desperately trying to find something that your right-wing mentality can construe into another conspiracy theory. It's very transparent.

NBC's Miguel Almaguer reported about the attack on Paulie that when the Police arrived he did not immediately declare an emergency or try to leave his home, but instead began walking several feet back into the foyer toward the assailant and away from police ...that when the officer asked what was going on, the defendant smiled and said 'everything's good' .

For not parroting the party line ,Almaguer was suspended and the report was taken down because “it did not meet NBC News reporting standards.”
NBC standards...being a mouthpiece for the Dems .

The release of the video of the attack and the subsequent police report confirms his version of the incident .

You mean this statement, "The only doubt is in your mind desperately trying to find something that your right-wing mentality can construe into another conspiracy theory," is actually not true? Well how about that.

Your original question (Why was the NBC reporter suspended for reporting the truth?) still remains unanswered. Even with the substantial support given to his story by the body cam footage, NBC has remained silent about the suspension. I'm wondering if a lawsuit on his part is in the wind.

NBC's Miguel Almaguer reported about the attack on Paulie that when the Police arrived he did not immediately declare an emergency or try to leave his home, but instead began walking several feet back into the foyer toward the assailant and away from police ...that when the officer asked what was going on, the defendant smiled and said 'everything's good' .

The release of the video of the attack and the subsequent police report confirms his version of the incident .

This is a new low for you, tomder.

Even in the face of documentary proof in the newly-released video that the whole world has now seen, you persist in your misleading (basically false) and dishonest comment re the attack.

Your first paragraph above is an absolute lie!!!!! It takes my breath away that you could post something so far from what the video revealed.

Every so often when I think you're being reasonable, just a right-wing supporter, you come out with this TOTAL CRAPOLA.

This is a new low for you, tomder.

Even in the face of documentary proof in the newly-released video that the whole world has now seen, you persist in your misleading (basically false) and dishonest comment re the attack.

Your first paragraph above is an absolute lie!!!!! It takes my breath away that you could post something so far from what the video revealed.

Every so often when I think you're being reasonable, just a right-wing supporter, you come out with this TOTAL CRAPOLA.

Point by point.


1. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reported about the attack on Paulie that when the Police arrived he did not immediately declare an emergency or try to leave his home. Unquestionably true from the video.


2.but instead began walking several feet back into the foyer toward the assailant and away from police. A little tougher. The video, to me, did not show that, but it does show that Pelosi and the assailant were standing together a few feet back from the door, both holding the hammer. So if Pelosi opened the door, then he must have taken a step back to get to that position.


3. that when the officer asked what was going on, the defendant smiled and said 'everything's good' .If by "defendant" Tom meant the assailant, then that is also true.

"Crapola"??? Honestly, sometimes these remarks are what is breathtaking.

Yes the defendant is the one charged with a crime I took the word and the quote almost verbatim from numerous accounts of the attack

Yes the defendant is the one charged with a crime I took the word and the quote almost verbatim from numerous accounts of the attack

Tom, there's only ONE absolutely authentic account of the attack - not "numerous accounts". It is the video and 911 audio released yesterday.

Your account, as revealed by those clips, was seriously misleading. When you understand the entire context, your continuing your support of the earlier account holds no water.

My objection was you posting it again as if no new information had been revealed. The whole truth HAD been revealed, and your take from the news guy was majorly misleading. SMH.

So says Athos with the usual complete absence of documentation. But then it is awfully hard to document incorrect info.

The video confirmed Almaguer 's report .

I see there is a legit question about Paulie greeting them and then backing towards his attacker . If it were me I would've run so fast out the door past the Police that the road runner could not have caught me . feet don't fail me now.

The video also shows Pauli holding his scotch and water in his left hand . Stange behavior from someone who is struggling with an assailant for his life.

I hadn’t noticed the drink in the hand. That is beyond strange. What would have been said? "Hey, I know you're here to assault me, but first let me get my whiskey sour."

The video confirmed Almaguer 's reportYes, it also implied that Paul Pelosi was married to Nancy Pelosi. So the hell what? I think you're hanging around with bad companions who are preventing you from seeing the forest because the trees are getting in the way.


The video also shows Pauli holding his scotch and water in his left hand . Stange behavior from someone who is struggling with an assailant for his life.

Good point, Tom. Of course that is proof positive that the whole attack was planned and coordinated by his wife, the Speaker of the House. Apparently Paul discovered Nancy was having a surreptitious affair with George Santos. "Oh, those bases on balls," as Frankie Frisch used to say when broadcasting the baseball GIANTS games.

[ed. The right wing made up such incredibly nasty stories about the attack and now they're shown up for the stupid idiots they are. But they won't give up - now the stupid is "...strange behavior with a drink in his hand". Good God Almighty!]

Yes, it also implied that Paul Pelosi was married to Nancy Pelosi. So the hell what?So the hell what? You're the guy who just a few hours ago flatly said that Tom was lying and that the video did not support his (actually the reporter's) version of events. That's a pretty big "so what".

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Wise move.